Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-04 Thread Marjorie Wilser
Thanks, Wanda! I was lucky in that the outfit matches itself: scarf,  
tunic  skirt, which is amazing since it is long enough for me, and I  
am tall.


I have a choli cut out to go with lovely sari that came unaccompanied,  
but have not made it. I took the pattern from a thrift store find  
which (again, amazingly) fit my actual bust, even though it was worn  
out and barely usable when found.


I found my first sari in the curtain department of the thrift store.  
They soon learned better!


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On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:30 PM, Wanda Pease wrote:

I tend to find these at my local Thrift stores too.  Frequently the  
pants have gotten separated from the rest of the outfit (found one  
pair in pajamas!).  Sometimes they never show, but the tunic is long  
and full enough that I wear it as a dress and scarf anyway.  Since I  
no longer have to conform, i. e. I can be excentric, I can wear it  
to work and get compliments from the young folk.  I'd say you have  
parts.of a Salwar/Kameze outfit.
   You could make pants for it.  The pants don't always match in  
color says my friend from Pakistan.

Wanda


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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-03 Thread Wanda Pease
I tend to find these at my local Thrift stores too.  Frequently the pants have 
gotten separated from the rest of the outfit (found one pair in pajamas!).  
Sometimes they never show, but the tunic is long and full enough that I wear it 
as a dress and scarf anyway.  Since I no longer have to conform, i. e. I can be 
excentric, I can wear it to work and get compliments from the young folk.  I'd 
say you have parts.of a Salwar/Kameze outfit.   
You could make pants for it.  The pants don't always match in color says my 
friend from Pakistan.
Wanda

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On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Marion McNealy m_mc_ne...@yahoo.com wrote:

 And here are some other ones, http://www.utsavfashion.com/lehenga
 
 - Marion
 
 
 
 From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com
 To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
 Sent: Thu, November 1, 2012 2:16:50 AM
 Subject: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
 
 In the interest of historical costume, modern version:
 
 I have a great thrift store outfit I purchased some years ago in the South 
 Bay 
 (San Jose) area. It looks like a typical woman's Punjabi suit consisting of 
 tunic, shawl, and pants-- except there are no pants. There is a long, even on 
 me 
 (5'10) flowing skirt. It's obviously dressy attire. There is gold (?) bullion 
 embroidery on the front of the tunic, and tiny gold seed beads stitched all 
 over 
 the skirt and shawl (wider than the typical Paloo of a sari). Fabric is an 
 abstract print in warm brown and golden tones on a lightweight silk. Lined 
 throughout. It was a very lucky find for me because I am tall and had only to 
 steal fabric from a seam to add a bust room gusset under the arms.
 
 Anybody care to hazard a guess as to this outfit's origins? I'm definitely 
 voting for the Punjab because of the tunic, and thinking perhaps it might be 
 some very formal outfit due to the heavy embroidery. I don't think this list 
 takes attachments, but I do have a pic to post. . . somewhere, or send to 
 whomever is interested.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-02 Thread Marion McNealy
Oh yes, Utsav is one of my favorite places to shop. :)
- Marion




From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thu, November 1, 2012 9:29:21 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

And did you look under the jewelry tab?? whoa! :)

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[h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread Marjorie Wilser

In the interest of historical costume, modern version:

I have a great thrift store outfit I purchased some years ago in the  
South Bay (San Jose) area. It looks like a typical woman's Punjabi  
suit consisting of tunic, shawl, and pants-- except there are no  
pants. There is a long, even on me (5'10) flowing skirt. It's  
obviously dressy attire. There is gold (?) bullion embroidery on the  
front of the tunic, and tiny gold seed beads stitched all over the  
skirt and shawl (wider than the typical Paloo of a sari). Fabric is an  
abstract print in warm brown and golden tones on a lightweight silk.  
Lined throughout. It was a very lucky find for me because I am tall  
and had only to steal fabric from a seam to add a bust room gusset  
under the arms.


Anybody care to hazard a guess as to this outfit's origins? I'm  
definitely voting for the Punjab because of the tunic, and thinking  
perhaps it might be some very formal outfit due to the heavy  
embroidery. I don't think this list takes attachments, but I do have a  
pic to post. . . somewhere, or send to whomever is interested.


Thanks!

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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread lauren . walker


It's a lehenga choli. 

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/ 



The Punjabi pantsuit is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli is often 
used for bridal wear. 



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From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com 
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 2:09:39 AM 
Subject: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. 

In the interest of historical costume, modern version: 

I have a great thrift store outfit I purchased some years ago in the   
South Bay (San Jose) area. It looks like a typical woman's Punjabi   
suit consisting of tunic, shawl, and pants-- except there are no   
pants. There is a long, even on me (5'10) flowing skirt. It's   
obviously dressy attire. There is gold (?) bullion embroidery on the   
front of the tunic, and tiny gold seed beads stitched all over the   
skirt and shawl (wider than the typical Paloo of a sari). Fabric is an   
abstract print in warm brown and golden tones on a lightweight silk.   
Lined throughout. It was a very lucky find for me because I am tall   
and had only to steal fabric from a seam to add a bust room gusset   
under the arms. 

Anybody care to hazard a guess as to this outfit's origins? I'm   
definitely voting for the Punjab because of the tunic, and thinking   
perhaps it might be some very formal outfit due to the heavy   
embroidery. I don't think this list takes attachments, but I do have a   
pic to post. . . somewhere, or send to whomever is interested. 

Thanks! 

==Marjorie Wilser 

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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread Marion McNealy
And here are some other ones, http://www.utsavfashion.com/lehenga

- Marion



From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thu, November 1, 2012 2:16:50 AM
Subject: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

In the interest of historical costume, modern version:

I have a great thrift store outfit I purchased some years ago in the South Bay 
(San Jose) area. It looks like a typical woman's Punjabi suit consisting of 
tunic, shawl, and pants-- except there are no pants. There is a long, even on 
me 
(5'10) flowing skirt. It's obviously dressy attire. There is gold (?) bullion 
embroidery on the front of the tunic, and tiny gold seed beads stitched all 
over 
the skirt and shawl (wider than the typical Paloo of a sari). Fabric is an 
abstract print in warm brown and golden tones on a lightweight silk. Lined 
throughout. It was a very lucky find for me because I am tall and had only to 
steal fabric from a seam to add a bust room gusset under the arms.

Anybody care to hazard a guess as to this outfit's origins? I'm definitely 
voting for the Punjab because of the tunic, and thinking perhaps it might be 
some very formal outfit due to the heavy embroidery. I don't think this list 
takes attachments, but I do have a pic to post. . . somewhere, or send to 
whomever is interested.

Thanks!

==Marjorie Wilser

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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread Marjorie Wilser

Lauren, Thanks for the link!!

Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and  
not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic*  
and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli.


I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm  
unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :)


==Marjorie Wilser

On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote:




It's a lehenga choli.

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/



The Punjabi pantsuit is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli  
is often used for bridal wear.




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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread Beteena Paradise
The tunic is called a Kameez (spellings vary) and the scarf is a Dupatta. 
Normally they are worn with salwar or shalwar (or other spellings depending on 
region) which are loose trousers or churidar (again spellings vary!) which are 
tight legging type trousers. I tried to google around to see what the skirt 
would be called, but, though I found this combination, they just seemed to be 
called Kameez with skirt. Maybe this is because it is a more modern combination 
rather than a traditional one? I don't know. Also, while they are worn in 
Punjab, they are also worn all over southeast asia. Hope this helps.
 
Teena



From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

Lauren, Thanks for the link!!

Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and not a 
choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic* and place it over 
the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli.

I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm unforgivably 
paleface, but the outfit is nice :)

==Marjorie Wilser

On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote:

 
 
 It's a lehenga choli.
 
 http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/
 
 
 
 The Punjabi pantsuit is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli is often 
 used for bridal wear.
 

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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread Beteena Paradise
I found something. Someone on a forum or something like that was asking about a 
Kameez Lengha (sometimes spelled lahenga) which is the tunic with the skirt. I 
guess Lengha means skirt. Anyway, they were saying that this was the Pakistani 
style as opposed to the lengha choli which is more of an Indian style. So maybe 
your outfit is Pakastani?
 
Teena



From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

Lauren, Thanks for the link!!

Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and not a 
choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic* and place it over 
the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli.

I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm unforgivably 
paleface, but the outfit is nice :)

==Marjorie Wilser

On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote:

 
 
 It's a lehenga choli.
 
 http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/
 
 
 
 The Punjabi pantsuit is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli is often 
 used for bridal wear.
 

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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread Lavolta Press

Marjorie,

Are these historic garments, or is this an inappropriately non-historic 
discussion?


Fran
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Books on making historic clothing
www.lavoltapress.com


On 11/1/2012 9:15 AM, Marjorie Wilser wrote:

Lauren, Thanks for the link!!

Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and 
not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic* 
and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli.


I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm 
unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :)


==Marjorie Wilser

On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote:




It's a lehenga choli.

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/



The Punjabi pantsuit is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli 
is often used for bridal wear.




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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread lauren . walker


Hmm. This place calls them long choli lehenga: 

http://www.cbazaar.com/readymade-lehenga/long_choli_lehenga-specialty/c-sb.html 





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From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com 
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:15:43 PM 
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. 

Lauren, Thanks for the link!! 

Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and   
not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic*   
and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli. 

I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm   
unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :) 

==Marjorie Wilser 

On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: 

 
 
 It's a lehenga choli. 
 
 http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/ 
 
 
 
 The Punjabi pantsuit is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli   
 is often used for bridal wear. 
 

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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread lauren . walker
Doesn't matter. I myself am an artifact  sufficiently historic  to excuse all. 

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From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com 
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:57:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. 

Marjorie, 

Are these historic garments, or is this an inappropriately non-historic 
discussion? 

Fran 
Lavolta Press 
Books on making historic clothing 
www.lavoltapress.com 


On 11/1/2012 9:15 AM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: 
 Lauren, Thanks for the link!! 
 
 Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and 
 not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic* 
 and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli. 
 
 I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm 
 unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :) 
 
 ==Marjorie Wilser 
 
 On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: 
 
 
 
 It's a lehenga choli. 
 
 http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/ 
 
 
 
 The Punjabi pantsuit is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli 
 is often used for bridal wear. 
 
 
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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread Marjorie Wilser

Teena,

That makes entire sense to me. The SF Bay area is rife with various  
ethnicities. Many thanks for digging around in my behalf! I haven't  
been home since this morning and getting home to this news is really  
cool!


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On Nov 1, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Beteena Paradise wrote:

I found something. Someone on a forum or something like that was  
asking about a Kameez Lengha (sometimes spelled lahenga) which is  
the tunic with the skirt. I guess Lengha means skirt. Anyway, they  
were saying that this was the Pakistani style as opposed to the  
lengha choli which is more of an Indian style. So maybe your outfit  
is Pakastani?


Teena


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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread Marjorie Wilser

And did you look under the jewelry tab?? whoa! :)

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On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Marion McNealy wrote:


And here are some other ones, http://www.utsavfashion.com/lehenga


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Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

2012-11-01 Thread Marjorie Wilser

Woweee! :) Thanks!

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On Nov 1, 2012, at 10:03 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote:




Hmm. This place calls them long choli lehenga:

http://www.cbazaar.com/readymade-lehenga/long_choli_lehenga-specialty/c-sb.html





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From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:15:43 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.

Lauren, Thanks for the link!!

Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and
not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic*
and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli.

I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm
unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :)

==Marjorie Wilser

On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote:




It's a lehenga choli.

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/



The Punjabi pantsuit is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli
is often used for bridal wear.



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