Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-26 Thread Lena

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I never could figure out why everyone was so crazy
 about Sound of Music,  
 especially costume historians!  So I'm not the only
 one.

Considering the amount of comments in the journal, you
are most certainly not alone. Personally I just love
them escaping _towards_ Germany...

/Lena 



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Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-26 Thread Marie Schnoor

REBECCA BURCH wrote:


This is why I prefer video/DVD - nobody cares when I
yell at the screen at home.  It took several years,
but I finally quit taking costume notes at live
theater.  I still notice - I just don't write it down
anymore.

--- kelly grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


but because of my DH the entire family is known to
 


yell at
   


the screen in any movie historical or modern PICK
 

UP THE AMMO/WEAPON, 
   


as
the good guy runs around ect...
 


Our favourite thing to make us yell at the
screen...Close the damn door! 
When the actor walks intoa building and leaves to
door open, to be closed 
miraculously by someone else!
   



 

My favorite is in The Patriot, where, during a duel, both of the leads 
(oh no, it is Mel again, isn't it?) proceed to throw away a very crucial 
part of their pistol. And then they throw it away again. Without picking 
it up. I was so confused! Ack.

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Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread stilskin
 
 Our favourite thing to make us yell at the screen...

I have been known to sit up back during The Sound of Music and, at the 
appropriate moment, shout, They're behind the tombstone...!

-C.



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Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread Elizabeth Walpole


- Original Message - 
From: kelly grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!



but because of my DH the entire family is known to yell at
the screen in any movie historical or modern PICK UP THE AMMO/WEAPON, 
as

the good guy runs around ect...


Our favourite thing to make us yell at the screen...Close the damn door! 
When the actor walks intoa building and leaves to door open, to be closed 
miraculously by someone else!



snip
It's not just costumers/historians who tell fictional characters when 
they're wrong, my Mum's a nurse and you can't get through any sort of 
medical drama without learning where they have taken liberties with the 
facts.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Walpole
Canberra Australia
ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au
http://au.geocities.com/e_walpole/


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Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 4/25/2006 7:13:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I think  it's because the public is becomming better educated about costume  
history, I also think that it will get better in the future too.   Costume 
Literature has jumped tenfold since I left University, so have the  skill 
levels of the majority of students. People are pushing themselves  further 
and further, trying to find out how those garments were made and  worn in 
history, not just trying to capture a  look.




***
 
The end of the studio system contributed to this greatly. The queens of  
the silver screen don't really have as much power as they used to.
 
But in the 1960s there started a vogue for accuracy that hit its  height I 
think in the late 70s. The 1st clothing from a movie I remember ever  noticing 
was Thoroughly Modern Milliesome beautiful and very accurate  costumes in 
therewith great character. I'd say the pinnacle is Little  Dorrit 
[early 80s]. This rise closely follows the rise in costume research and  
scholarly 
investigation of clothes happening at the same time.
Now I feel it's moving into an area I like but is not really accuracy. I  
call it the historically informed look. Where there is obviously a healthy  
respect and knowledge of the period historically, but things are manipulated to 
 achieve effects. The rise in popularity of fantasy films has something to  
do with it. Sandy Powell, one of my fave designers, is very good at this. She  
loves correct cuts, but will play with fabric a lot. So too another of my fave 
 designers, Colleen Atwood.
Of course the British and Europeans have been doing some very accurate  
portrayals for a long time.
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Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 4/25/2006 7:35:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Our  favourite thing to make us yell at the screen...



***
 
I hate it when someone gets shotin the arm or leg or shoulder and  
then runs around for the rest of the film as if nothing was wrong.
 
It's only a flesh wound
 
You're arm's off!
 
 No it isn't..
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[h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread Julie
I've just been having a costume-a-thon at my house (coronation is Saturday 
and we have to dress the queen G).  As we're sewing we've been watching 
movies and of course snarking the costumes.


We watched Kiss Me Kate.  My daughter wants the red dress the shrew wore. 
It was Hollywood Italian Ren.


We watched Court Jester last night.  Actually the costumes weren't too bad.

It seems that costumes, effects, make up, and everything else has improved 
as the audience has gotten more sophisticated.  Still, it's fiction.  And 
none of those will be allowed to get in the way of a good story or making a 
buck G


Julie 



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Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread Lena
In the spirit of these movie related threads:

I would like to draw your attention to History Spork,
where two (or sometimes) three historians spork
historical movies. In the archives are Braveheart,
Sound of music, The patriot, and many more. 
http://history-spork.livejournal.com/

In the same vein, a lovely King Arthur review:
http://ajhalluk.livejournal.com/174695.html

Enjoy!

/Lena

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Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread AnnBWass
 
In a message dated 4/25/2006 4:02:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

three  historians spork
historical movies. In the archives are  Braveheart,
Sound of music, The patriot, and many  more


I never could figure out why everyone was so crazy about Sound of Music,  
especially costume historians!  So I'm not the only one.
 
Ann Wass
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Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread REBECCA BURCH
This is why I prefer video/DVD - nobody cares when I
yell at the screen at home.  It took several years,
but I finally quit taking costume notes at live
theater.  I still notice - I just don't write it down
anymore.

--- kelly grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  but because of my DH the entire family is known to
 yell at
  the screen in any movie historical or modern PICK
 UP THE AMMO/WEAPON, 
  as
  the good guy runs around ect...
 
 Our favourite thing to make us yell at the
 screen...Close the damn door! 
 When the actor walks intoa building and leaves to
 door open, to be closed 
 miraculously by someone else!


Rebecca Burch
Center Valley Farm
Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA
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