Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
I did put my hair in a pony tail but obviously did not use enough pins. Not even enough for me to find my way out of the mall as they scattered on the floor behind me. I will have to look into the more massive hair pins you describe. Thank you! Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun I have to admit I'm one of those disgusting ones whose hair stays in a bun pretty much by itself (can't braid it though because the cohesion is too much). _However_, if you put the hair in a pony tail first and then wrap your hair around the hair band, you'll have better success. The rubber band will be taking the structural load of holding the hair up instead of the bobby pins. The hair band won't show and you can anchor the bobby pins in the rubber band as well, adding another layer of structure. I have to say that I've also had better success with true hair pins (looks like a V) instead of bobby pins, but that might just be my hair. --Kathy K. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
The best answer, then, is to costume yourself as the White Queen from Lewis Carroll's THROUGH THE LOOKING-GLASS, and celebrate the scattered hairpins and flying hair as costuming detail at its best! http://www.art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/pd--12385785/sp--A/White_Queen_Alice_Adjusts_the_White_Queens_Shawl.htm -Original Message- From: Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 16, 2007 9:16 PM To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun I did put my hair in a pony tail but obviously did not use enough pins. Not even enough for me to find my way out of the mall as they scattered on the floor behind me. I will have to look into the more massive hair pins you describe. Thank you! Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun I have to admit I'm one of those disgusting ones whose hair stays in a bun pretty much by itself (can't braid it though because the cohesion is too much). _However_, if you put the hair in a pony tail first and then wrap your hair around the hair band, you'll have better success. The rubber band will be taking the structural load of holding the hair up instead of the bobby pins. The hair band won't show and you can anchor the bobby pins in the rubber band as well, adding another layer of structure. I have to say that I've also had better success with true hair pins (looks like a V) instead of bobby pins, but that might just be my hair. --Kathy K. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
Good idea. Obviously, that had been my unintended model... Well, then, I pulled it off very well. Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun The best answer, then, is to costume yourself as the White Queen from Lewis Carroll's THROUGH THE LOOKING-GLASS, and celebrate the scattered hairpins and flying hair as costuming detail at its best! http://www.art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/pd--12385785/sp--A/White_Queen_Alice_Adjusts_the_White_Queens_Shawl.htm ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
I had a book signing recently. In preparation, I pinned my hair up in a bun, only to have the whole mass fall out of its pins soon after arrival. Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? A lot of it comes down to getting the pins at a certain angle and it is so very difficult to try and explain rather than just do! I have extremely fine hair that has always been prone to being oily which is one issue and now tends to dry, which is another issue though makes it equally difficult to do other styles;) My hair is to my hips and a number of different lengths which also can help or hinder different styles. I tend to prefer to use a couple of chop-sticks but the trick is to start with the stick perpendicular to the top edge of the bun push it through bun and when it hits the scalp scoop some hair while turning the stick on a slight angle (say from right down to left) and then wiggle it to pick up hair either side of its path and then turn the end up to emerge out the other side of the bun. Then take the other do the same but try and anchor the first stick (pick up hair in front and behind the stick) and it's best to have it no more than 45% off angle of the first stick. It also helps to try and anchor hair and sticks and hair elastic. Same issue with pins. I take some hair from the top of the edge of the bun then scoop the pin forward and then under to pick up more hairs so there is a less tension on a wider area of scalp. You do need to experiment and experiment each time you do your hair because you will occasionally pick up a single hair in one spot which will hurt like heck! Also if you are using bobby pins get some really good salon quality ones! http://www.m-osaka.com/en/exhibitors/189/products.html These are used by professionals and I just got a 250gm container of them. Supper strong and with a long plastic tip that really will not come off. Their grip is very strong but they are cut very nicely so won't shred your hair. I was introduced to them as an extra on Xena et al. and spent ages trying to track them down. Luckily my mother is a hairdresser so she can get them at trade price:) Michaela de Bruce http://glittersweet.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
Gilbert wrote: Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? Start with 'day-old' hair, not freshly washed. It won't be so dry and difficult to keep in place. Styling products don't do much for me, other than make my hair feel gunky, but we all have different kinds of hair. When my hair was waist length, I usually started with a ponytail. That kept the mass of hair in place, and I could wrap the tail more easily. If it started to come out, I could re-wrap it quickly starting with the ponytail again. Try different kinds of pins. I was using standard 2 bobby pins, until I discovered some super large 3 ones that work better. I can lose a 2 bobby pin in the back of my head, my hair is so thick. If your hair is different lengths you'll need a lot more pins to hold all the shorter wisps on the side of your head. I tend to keep my hair all one length to make it easier to put up. Don't be afraid to use a lot of pins, that's why they come in packs of 100. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
Mine stays in a bun better if it's slightly dirty - much more slippery if it's clean. Would a hairnet spoil the effect you want? Patty From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gilbert Sent: Wed 12/12/2007 5:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Dear All, I had a book signing recently. In preparation, I pinned my hair up in a bun, only to have the whole mass fall out of its pins soon after arrival. Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? Thank you in advance! I do love this loop... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
I'm open to anything, short of super glue. A hair net might do the trick--or all the techniques suggested on this fabulous loop used at once... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net - Original Message - From: Rickard, Patty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Mine stays in a bun better if it's slightly dirty - much more slippery if it's clean. Would a hairnet spoil the effect you want? Patty From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gilbert Sent: Wed 12/12/2007 5:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Dear All, I had a book signing recently. In preparation, I pinned my hair up in a bun, only to have the whole mass fall out of its pins soon after arrival. Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? Thank you in advance! I do love this loop... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
Depending on the length and thickness of your hair, you might also try braiding it before twisting it into a bun. I do this frequently. I also use hair sticks to hold the bun, but hairpins, like the sticks, would be more secure in braided hair because the braid keeps them from moving laterally. Looks pretty too--rich and complicated, if that look works with the overall impression you want. I get a lot of unsolicited compliments. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer On Dec 16, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Gilbert wrote: I'm open to anything, short of super glue. A hair net might do the trick--or all the techniques suggested on this fabulous loop used at once... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net - Original Message - From: Rickard, Patty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Mine stays in a bun better if it's slightly dirty - much more slippery if it's clean. Would a hairnet spoil the effect you want? Patty From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gilbert Sent: Wed 12/12/2007 5:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Dear All, I had a book signing recently. In preparation, I pinned my hair up in a bun, only to have the whole mass fall out of its pins soon after arrival. Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? Thank you in advance! I do love this loop... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun I have to admit I'm one of those disgusting ones whose hair stays in a bun pretty much by itself (can't braid it though because the cohesion is too much). _However_, if you put the hair in a pony tail first and then wrap your hair around the hair band, you'll have better success. The rubber band will be taking the structural load of holding the hair up instead of the bobby pins. The hair band won't show and you can anchor the bobby pins in the rubber band as well, adding another layer of structure. I have to say that I've also had better success with true hair pins (looks like a V) instead of bobby pins, but that might just be my hair. --Kathy K. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
Thank you for the advice. Now that my hair is getting longer, I will definitely have to learn techniques such as these. I like the idea of French rolls. Sounds like they'd look rather nice and period as well (aiming for a Georgian, 1800's look). FYI, some shampoo can aid in hair loss and scalp irritation http://www.natural-health-information-centre.com/sodium-lauryl-sulfate.html. Ugh, is nothing safe? Thank you again! Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net - Original Message - From: Wanda Pease [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 2:32 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Sadly for me my hair is slowly becoming less thick and every time I get it evened up it gets a bit shorter as well. I have had good luck back in the days of thick, long hair, with taking 3 long bobby-pin tightly squeezed not the loose U shape and put them as equidistant around the bun as I could. I used to have short sections come loose and end up in my mouth and face, but then I learned the trick of french rolling (part your hair in the center, and comb it smoothly to each side. Start at the part line on one side and take a little hair and twist it, then move the roll down and gather in some more hair and twist that in. Keep going until you have reached the area you want the bun to start and put in a big bobby pin to hold it while you do the other side the same way. Gather the two twists together and wind them around and make your bun.) Once you have the short hairs rolled into the longer ones, they tend not to fly around loosely. I've even done this with braids and had it hold throughout the night and next day. If the side rolls don't look nice and even run a comb through them gently that will smooth everything out. If they aren't fluffy enough take the sides and tug gently. It can take some practice, but your hair will generally stay put. The only person I've had a problem with was a dancer who had incredibly thick hair (she stopped having headaches when she cut it to mid back. The weight of her hair was actually causing her to flip it and using neck and spine in ways that weren't good for them. I should mention that I rinse my hair about every three to five days (100 strokes with a hog bristle brush that is washed every week with baby shampoo) with as hot water as I can stand and then folded into a towel and allowed to dry completely before I start with the big cedar comb my nephew brought me from China. I may not have the Breck Girl shining hair, but it isn't oily, and it does stay in styles far longer than it did when I washed it with shampoo and conditioner frequently. For the record the lack of Shampoo and Conditioner are not the reason for the hair loss. Ya gotta be tough to get old (er) Wanda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
The best trick i have is to section your hair. first make a part in the hair from ear to ear, and take the back hair and make a bun. the front hair you divide in 2 at where you want a part, then take each section and wind it around the bun and pin well. It holds for me, and I got super smooth hair, which easily glide out of bunns Tania Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gilbert wrote: Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? Start with 'day-old' hair, not freshly washed. It won't be so dry and difficult to keep in place. Styling products don't do much for me, other than make my hair feel gunky, but we all have different kinds of hair. When my hair was waist length, I usually started with a ponytail. That kept the mass of hair in place, and I could wrap the tail more easily. If it started to come out, I could re-wrap it quickly starting with the ponytail again. Try different kinds of pins. I was using standard 2 bobby pins, until I discovered some super large 3 ones that work better. I can lose a 2 bobby pin in the back of my head, my hair is so thick. If your hair is different lengths you'll need a lot more pins to hold all the shorter wisps on the side of your head. I tend to keep my hair all one length to make it easier to put up. Don't be afraid to use a lot of pins, that's why they come in packs of 100. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
Cool! I'll have to try that also... Thanks! Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net - Original Message - From: Ruth Anne Baumgartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Depending on the length and thickness of your hair, you might also try braiding it before twisting it into a bun. I do this frequently. I also use hair sticks to hold the bun, but hairpins, like the sticks, would be more secure in braided hair because the braid keeps them from moving laterally. Looks pretty too--rich and complicated, if that look works with the overall impression you want. I get a lot of unsolicited compliments. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer On Dec 16, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Gilbert wrote: I'm open to anything, short of super glue. A hair net might do the trick--or all the techniques suggested on this fabulous loop used at once... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net - Original Message - From: Rickard, Patty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Mine stays in a bun better if it's slightly dirty - much more slippery if it's clean. Would a hairnet spoil the effect you want? Patty From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gilbert Sent: Wed 12/12/2007 5:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Dear All, I had a book signing recently. In preparation, I pinned my hair up in a bun, only to have the whole mass fall out of its pins soon after arrival. Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? Thank you in advance! I do love this loop... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
You know I think I saw something similar on a site which described Regency hair styles. Your explanation of how the style is achieved is far easier to understand. Thank you! Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net - Original Message - From: Tania Gruning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun The best trick i have is to section your hair. first make a part in the hair from ear to ear, and take the back hair and make a bun. the front hair you divide in 2 at where you want a part, then take each section and wind it around the bun and pin well. It holds for me, and I got super smooth hair, which easily glide out of bunns Tania ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
How long is your hair? Mine is just shy of shoulder length, so my bun is tiny. I usually do a french twist instead and hold in place with plastic hair pins--look like a 3 long U. I get them from the Vermont Country Store catalog. Then spray with hair spray to keep flyaway bits stuck down. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilbert Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:51 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun I'm open to anything, short of super glue. A hair net might do the trick--or all the techniques suggested on this fabulous loop used at once... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net - Original Message - From: Rickard, Patty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Mine stays in a bun better if it's slightly dirty - much more slippery if it's clean. Would a hairnet spoil the effect you want? Patty From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gilbert Sent: Wed 12/12/2007 5:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Dear All, I had a book signing recently. In preparation, I pinned my hair up in a bun, only to have the whole mass fall out of its pins soon after arrival. Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? Thank you in advance! I do love this loop... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
Dear All, I had a book signing recently. In preparation, I pinned my hair up in a bun, only to have the whole mass fall out of its pins soon after arrival. Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? Thank you in advance! I do love this loop... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
Marjorie, I use hair sticks rather than hair pins. My hair is very long and very thick, so regular bobby pins I can get at the local stores are totally useless. I prefer the sturdy metal and wood to the plastic. I also prefer the two-prong sticks to the singles. You can get short and plain ones that barely show at all, too. Connie Wyvern Productions Painting masterpieces in thread. http://www.wyvernproductions.com Das Nachtjager Fahnlein http://www.wyvernproductions.com/landsknecht/ Things turn out best for those that make the best of the way things turn out. - Art Linkletter At 05:07 PM 12/12/2007, you wrote: Dear All, I had a book signing recently. In preparation, I pinned my hair up in a bun, only to have the whole mass fall out of its pins soon after arrival. Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? Thank you in advance! I do love this loop... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
I find the best way to keep my hair anchored in the bun or twist is to use either a foam mousse or hairspray before putting it up. Otherwise, it just slides right out no matter how many pins I use. Generally I find the best method for dry hair is to bend over and hang my head down, comb the hair from the nape and lightly spray all through. Then gather it up, twisting as I go, coil it around and pin down. I use the mousse when I have just washed my hair and it is still slightly wet. My hair is currently slightly below waist length. I don't know how this would work on shorter hair, mine has never been shorter than shoulderblade length and was once almost knee length. --- Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I had a book signing recently. In preparation, I pinned my hair up in a bun, only to have the whole mass fall out of its pins soon after arrival. Do any of you have any sure-fire suggestions as to keeping ones hair in a bun until the owner of the hair wishes to remove the pins, and not the hair itself? Thank you in advance! I do love this loop... Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun
Sadly for me my hair is slowly becoming less thick and every time I get it evened up it gets a bit shorter as well. I have had good luck back in the days of thick, long hair, with taking 3 long bobby-pin tightly squeezed not the loose U shape and put them as equidistant around the bun as I could. I used to have short sections come loose and end up in my mouth and face, but then I learned the trick of french rolling (part your hair in the center, and comb it smoothly to each side. Start at the part line on one side and take a little hair and twist it, then move the roll down and gather in some more hair and twist that in. Keep going until you have reached the area you want the bun to start and put in a big bobby pin to hold it while you do the other side the same way. Gather the two twists together and wind them around and make your bun.) Once you have the short hairs rolled into the longer ones, they tend not to fly around loosely. I've even done this with braids and had it hold throughout the night and next day. If the side rolls don't look nice and even run a comb through them gently that will smooth everything out. If they aren't fluffy enough take the sides and tug gently. It can take some practice, but your hair will generally stay put. The only person I've had a problem with was a dancer who had incredibly thick hair (she stopped having headaches when she cut it to mid back. The weight of her hair was actually causing her to flip it and using neck and spine in ways that weren't good for them. I should mention that I rinse my hair about every three to five days (100 strokes with a hog bristle brush that is washed every week with baby shampoo) with as hot water as I can stand and then folded into a towel and allowed to dry completely before I start with the big cedar comb my nephew brought me from China. I may not have the Breck Girl shining hair, but it isn't oily, and it does stay in styles far longer than it did when I washed it with shampoo and conditioner frequently. For the record the lack of Shampoo and Conditioner are not the reason for the hair loss. Ya gotta be tough to get old (er) Wanda -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frau Anna Bleucher Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 9:50 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun Marjorie, I use hair sticks rather than hair pins. My hair is very long and very thick, so regular bobby pins I can get at the local stores are totally useless. I prefer the sturdy metal and wood to the plastic. I also prefer the two-prong sticks to the singles. You can get short and plain ones that barely show at all, too. Connie Wyvern Productions Painting masterpieces in thread. http://www.wyvernproductions.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
