Re: [h-cost] Re: Re: Elizabethan Dressing Jackets

2007-09-24 Thread lisa
Again they only show the back of it, and in this lighting you can't see how 
magnificently metallic it is. The museum now dates it to 1610-1615.


There's a color picture of the front in Adolph Cavallo's Needlework. 
Unfortunately you can't see the metallic-ness in that photo either but the 
jacket is being worn by a mannequin which may also be wearing a matching 
coif.  I'm not sure about the coif, not with my books right now.


--lisa
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[h-cost] Re: Re: Elizabethan Dressing Jackets

2007-09-22 Thread Eva Andersson


However, one of the pieces they reference might be. There's an 
embroidered jacket in the Boston MFA, done in silver and gold thread 
instead of multicolored, believed to have belonged to Elizabeth I. I 
remember seeing it several times when I was a student there. 
Unfortunately, I have never found a picture of it, in any book or 
online, since. I wonder if it is even still on display, given that it 
was 20 years ago. It was exquisite, and so tiny, looked like it was made 
for a 12 year old girl.



Dawn



I'm quite positive that one is shown in Blanche Payne's: History of
Costume from 1965. Including a pattern diagram.
But I may be remembering totally wrong of course.

/Eva


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Re: [h-cost] Re: Re: Elizabethan Dressing Jackets

2007-09-22 Thread Melanie Schuessler

Eva,

You are correct!  I didn't remember that one, but there it is.  And a  
pattern as well with some interesting notes on construction.


Good catch,
Melanie


On Sep 22, 2007, at 2:23 AM, Eva Andersson wrote:





However, one of the pieces they reference might be. There's an
embroidered jacket in the Boston MFA, done in silver and gold thread
instead of multicolored, believed to have belonged to Elizabeth I. I
remember seeing it several times when I was a student there.
Unfortunately, I have never found a picture of it, in any book or
online, since. I wonder if it is even still on display, given that it
was 20 years ago. It was exquisite, and so tiny, looked like it  
was made

for a 12 year old girl.





Dawn




I'm quite positive that one is shown in Blanche Payne's: History of
Costume from 1965. Including a pattern diagram.
But I may be remembering totally wrong of course.

/Eva


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Re: [h-cost] Re: Re: Elizabethan Dressing Jackets

2007-09-22 Thread Susan Farmer

Quoting Eva Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Dawn said:



However, one of the pieces they reference might be. There's an
embroidered jacket in the Boston MFA, done in silver and gold thread
instead of multicolored, believed to have belonged to Elizabeth I. I
remember seeing it several times when I was a student there.
Unfortunately, I have never found a picture of it, in any book or
online, since. I wonder if it is even still on display, given that it
was 20 years ago. It was exquisite, and so tiny, looked like it was made
for a 12 year old girl.


I'm quite positive that one is shown in Blanche Payne's: History of
Costume from 1965. Including a pattern diagram.
But I may be remembering totally wrong of course.



Blanche calls it a doublet.  Pattern #4, page 543.  Figure #334 --  
only shows the back.  Courtesy the Elizabeth Day McCormick  
Collection) -- no other accession/item number.


Text: The Boston Museum of Fine Arts is the proud possessor of the  
golden doublet presented to Elizabeth about 1578 (Fig. 334 and Draft  
4).  The fabric of the doublet is fine, firm white linen, obviously  
from the loom of a superior weaver.  The surface is covered with gold  
and silver embroidery in an endless scroll design enclosing a stylized  
flower.  The background is thiclky sewed with minute gold sequins.   
Gold lace finishes the lower edge.  The doublet is breathtaking in its  
gleaming splendor and awe-inspiring in its historical implications.   
Almost 400 years old, it is in near-perfect condition, a real  
sixteenth-century masterpiece.  Actual measurements of the doublet  
indicate that the queen was a small person but her grand manner left  
no such impression. (p. 315).


Susan
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Susan Farmer
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Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College
Division of Science and Math
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/


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Re: [h-cost] Re: Re: Elizabethan Dressing Jackets

2007-09-22 Thread Dawn

Susan Farmer wrote:

Quoting Eva Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:




I'm quite positive that one is shown in Blanche Payne's: History of
Costume from 1965. Including a pattern diagram.
But I may be remembering totally wrong of course.



Blanche calls it a doublet.  Pattern #4, page 543.  Figure #334 -- only 
shows the back.  Courtesy the Elizabeth Day McCormick Collection) -- 
no other accession/item number.


I finally found it on the web site:

http://www.mfa.org/collections/search_art.asp?recview=trueid=116779coll_keywords=woman%27scoll_accession=coll_name=coll_artist=coll_place=coll_medium=coll_culture=englishcoll_classification=Costumescoll_credit=coll_provenance=coll_location=coll_has_images=coll_on_view=coll_sort=2coll_sort_order=0coll_view=0coll_package=0coll_start=51

Accession number: 43.243


Again they only show the back of it, and in this lighting you can't see 
how magnificently metallic it is. The museum now dates it to 1610-1615. 
I wonder if they disproved the connection to Elizabeth I, who died in 1603.




Dawn
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RE: [h-cost] Re: Re: Elizabethan Dressing Jackets

2007-09-22 Thread monica spence
Thank you for posting this! I have never seen this piece.
Monica

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Susan Farmer wrote:
 Quoting Eva Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 I'm quite positive that one is shown in Blanche Payne's: History of
 Costume from 1965. Including a pattern diagram.
 But I may be remembering totally wrong of course.


 Blanche calls it a doublet.  Pattern #4, page 543.  Figure #334 -- only
 shows the back.  Courtesy the Elizabeth Day McCormick Collection) --
 no other accession/item number.

I finally found it on the web site:

http://www.mfa.org/collections/search_art.asp?recview=trueid=116779coll_ke
ywords=woman%27scoll_accession=coll_name=coll_artist=coll_place=coll_me
dium=coll_culture=englishcoll_classification=Costumescoll_credit=coll_pr
ovenance=coll_location=coll_has_images=coll_on_view=coll_sort=2coll_sor
t_order=0coll_view=0coll_package=0coll_start=51

Accession number: 43.243


Again they only show the back of it, and in this lighting you can't see
how magnificently metallic it is. The museum now dates it to 1610-1615.
I wonder if they disproved the connection to Elizabeth I, who died in 1603.



Dawn
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