RE: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
I might imagine it was because of the movies recently made or coming soon; the original PP is surely out of copyright (author death + 75 yrs if IRC) Perhaps there is some sort of appeal process? Just my .02 lira, Betsy (Ebay buyer, not seller) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A J Garden Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:39 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming Hi, just want to warn others - I got this message tonight - I did not realise I was spamming. What are your thoughts? I make Regency dresses for sale. Thanks, Aylwen Garden Original Message Subject:eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming (=LS 7193 JM5023424) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:22:44 PST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear cottager87, We appreciate that you chose eBay to list the following multiple item listing(s): 8359259226 - Regency Dress: Jane Austen 1800s Pride Prejudice Gown However, your listing was in violation of eBay's Keyword Spamming policy and has been removed from eBay. We have credited all associated fees to your account and notified eBay users associated with the transaction that it has been cancelled. We would like to take this opportunity to let you know what part of your listing is not permitted. Your listing(s) contains the following information: In Title: Jane Austen 1800s Pride Prejudice Keyword spamming is not permitted on eBay. This typically occurs when members place brand names or other inappropriate keywords in a title or description for the purpose of gaining attention or diverting members to a listing. * Use of Brand Names: Our policy does not permit members to include any brand names in the listing title other than the specific brand name used by the company that manufactured or produced the item being offered in the listing. * Custom-made items: Although an item may be fabricated to visually match a specific product line of a recognized brand name, members are not permitted to include the name of the product line, or the related brand name in the listing title. * Use of Celebrity or Artist Names: At present, our policy does not permit members to include celebrity names, or the names of artists, authors, or other known figures in the listing title other than the specific celebrity or known figure that has created, written or officially endorsed the item being offered in the listing. From the perspective of our policy, celebrity names are treated as being synonymous with brand names. This means that although a celebrity may have worn a similar item, or made such an item popular in current pop-culture, members are not permitted to use the names of these celebrities or known figures in the listing title. Our policy permits a seller to use *one* name as a comparison within the subtitle or description section of the listing. For more information on Keyword Spamming visit the following Help page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/keyword-spam.html Please note: violation of this or other eBay policies may result in forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings, limits on account privileges and account suspension. Please review eBay's Listing Policies and User Agreement at the following locations: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/policies.html http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html For more information on why eBay removes multiple item listings, or to write to us with questions, please review the following Web page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/listing-ended.html We thank you in advance for your cooperation. Regards, eBay Trust Safety ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
In a message dated 12/7/2005 2:33:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Use of Celebrity or Artist Names: At present, our policy does not permit members to include celebrity names, or the names of artists, authors, or other known figures in the listing title other than the specific celebrity or known figure that has created, written or officially endorsed the item being offered in the listing. From the perspective of our policy, celebrity names are treated as being synonymous with brand names. I can understand the author, I guess, even though Jane Austen has been dead quite a few years. So, I guess you can only use her name if you are actually selling a book she wrote. Guess you will have to stick to Regency era and hope people know what that means. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
I understand wy ebay say's it is spam.. You sell regency style dresses and not a dress from the movie. And the dress is also not from Jane Austen. But you could say Jane Austen style in the discription of the item. But it is a bit weird that they are sending this now. It happends so often that people use a movie title to sell their costumes. And it makes it very difficult to get the right people to see you auction. But on the otherhand maby people will do a little more research if they want a dress in style of a perticulary book or movie. Not that I think that will happen. How many times people asked me to make a medieval dress and alway's start with telling me they want a hoopskirt. A J Garden wrote: Hi, just want to warn others - I got this message tonight - I did not realise I was spamming. What are your thoughts? I make Regency dresses for sale. Thanks, Aylwen Garden Original Message Subject: eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming (=LS 7193 JM5023424) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:22:44 PST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear cottager87, We appreciate that you chose eBay to list the following multiple item listing(s): 8359259226 - Regency Dress: Jane Austen 1800s Pride Prejudice Gown However, your listing was in violation of eBay's Keyword Spamming policy and has been removed from eBay. We have credited all associated fees to your account and notified eBay users associated with the transaction that it has been cancelled. We would like to take this opportunity to let you know what part of your listing is not permitted. Your listing(s) contains the following information: In Title: Jane Austen 1800s Pride Prejudice Keyword spamming is not permitted on eBay. This typically occurs when members place brand names or other inappropriate keywords in a title or description for the purpose of gaining attention or diverting members to a listing. * Use of Brand Names: Our policy does not permit members to include any brand names in the listing title other than the specific brand name used by the company that manufactured or produced the item being offered in the listing. * Custom-made items: Although an item may be fabricated to visually match a specific product line of a recognized brand name, members are not permitted to include the name of the product line, or the related brand name in the listing title. * Use of Celebrity or Artist Names: At present, our policy does not permit members to include celebrity names, or the names of artists, authors, or other known figures in the listing title other than the specific celebrity or known figure that has created, written or officially endorsed the item being offered in the listing. From the perspective of our policy, celebrity names are treated as being synonymous with brand names. This means that although a celebrity may have worn a similar item, or made such an item popular in current pop-culture, members are not permitted to use the names of these celebrities or known figures in the listing title. Our policy permits a seller to use *one* name as a comparison within the subtitle or description section of the listing. For more information on Keyword Spamming visit the following Help page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/keyword-spam.html Please note: violation of this or other eBay policies may result in forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings, limits on account privileges and account suspension. Please review eBay's Listing Policies and User Agreement at the following locations: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/policies.html http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html For more information on why eBay removes multiple item listings, or to write to us with questions, please review the following Web page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/listing-ended.html We thank you in advance for your cooperation. Regards, eBay Trust Safety ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
Deredere Galbraith wrote: But it is a bit weird that they are sending this now. Probably people report suspect cases if they see them, but that means the enforcement is very random. There are many examples of bad keywords on eBay! One of my favorite titles I saw on eBay was Medieval Amish Celtic Gown. It was a brown tunic without gores -- just straight sides. Those Medieval Amish, those jokers! -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent Feeling like your Middle Age is upon you? New design at my CafePress store, with a medieval woodcut of a pharmacist, a paen to OTC drugs, and a quote from Chaucer about old(er) age. Black T-shirt, various other colors items: http://www.cafepress.com/virtueventures.39314581 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
I'm guessing the listing would have been fine six months ago, but now with the movie coming out it has become a brand name. Funny thing about celebrity names and fashion - I know exactly what Madonna boots are, or a Jackie-O pillbox. People's names become synonymous with a style. For e-Bay, I would know what someone meant by a Queen Elizabeth I style. If they said J-Lo, they could mean something J-Lo actually wore or owned, an original or a copy of her fashion line, or a copy of one of her red-carpet gowns. I suppose that's why they need to draw the line somewhere. Maybe it would be ok to use Austen in the description without the Jane. Unfortunately we (historic costumers) use movie titles all the time, like Ever After and Shakespeare in Love. Not to mention the fantasy film inspirations! Does this mean you can't sell a Queen Amidalla style gown? And with artists: Watteau, Gibson and Vermeer all tell me something about the item. Your gowns will become popular because of the movie, perhaps with people who don't know terms like Regency, Federal, Empire, etc. Too bad they won't allow the keywords that will help people find them. -Carol Hi, just want to warn others - I got this message tonight - I did not realise I was spamming. What are your thoughts? I make Regency dresses for sale. Thanks, Aylwen Garden Jane Austen 1800s Pride Prejudice ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
In a message dated 12/7/2005 8:22:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of my favorite titles I saw on eBay was Medieval Amish Celtic Gown. It was a brown tunic without gores -- just straight sides. Those Medieval Amish, those jokers! Hey, eBay isn't filtering for stupidity! Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
This is really odd! Maybe it's because you have Jane Austin and Pride and Prejudice together? Maybe if it was one or the other, or said Jane Austin style dress or era dress? I don't know...I've never seen anything like this. I would write to them right away and find out what the deal is. . /' // . // |\//7 /' \ . . . | (\ '._ | '._ ''. ' /\'-'_---. ) ) . :.' | \ | .. . . ' .| | | \^ /_-': / / | |'\ .' / /| | \\ | \ \( ) // / \ | |// / L! ! // / Joan Broneske [_] L[_|[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
In a message dated 12/7/2005 8:28:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm guessing the listing would have been fine six months ago, but now with the movie coming out it has become a brand name Actually, the TITLE of the movie can't be branded--titles can't be copyrighted, and especially not when the original book was published 200 years ago. But it does seem there has to be a way around the particular wording--like, as someone suggested, Austen-style? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
Uh-oh. Where does that leave such items as Eisenhower jackets, Peter Pan collars, Eton jackets, Mae Wests (life preservers), and other eponymous garments? ;.} --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer -Original Message- From: A J Garden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dec 7, 2005 2:38 AM To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming Hi, just want to warn others - I got this message tonight - I did not realise I was spamming. What are your thoughts? I make Regency dresses for sale. Thanks, Aylwen Garden Original Message Subject:eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming (=LS 7193 JM5023424) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:22:44 PST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear cottager87, We appreciate that you chose eBay to list the following multiple item listing(s): 8359259226 - Regency Dress: Jane Austen 1800s Pride Prejudice Gown However, your listing was in violation of eBay's Keyword Spamming policy and has been removed from eBay. We have credited all associated fees to your account and notified eBay users associated with the transaction that it has been cancelled. We would like to take this opportunity to let you know what part of your listing is not permitted. Your listing(s) contains the following information: In Title: Jane Austen 1800s Pride Prejudice Keyword spamming is not permitted on eBay. This typically occurs when members place brand names or other inappropriate keywords in a title or description for the purpose of gaining attention or diverting members to a listing. * Use of Brand Names: Our policy does not permit members to include any brand names in the listing title other than the specific brand name used by the company that manufactured or produced the item being offered in the listing. * Custom-made items: Although an item may be fabricated to visually match a specific product line of a recognized brand name, members are not permitted to include the name of the product line, or the related brand name in the listing title. * Use of Celebrity or Artist Names: At present, our policy does not permit members to include celebrity names, or the names of artists, authors, or other known figures in the listing title other than the specific celebrity or known figure that has created, written or officially endorsed the item being offered in the listing. From the perspective of our policy, celebrity names are treated as being synonymous with brand names. This means that although a celebrity may have worn a similar item, or made such an item popular in current pop-culture, members are not permitted to use the names of these celebrities or known figures in the listing title. Our policy permits a seller to use *one* name as a comparison within the subtitle or description section of the listing. For more information on Keyword Spamming visit the following Help page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/keyword-spam.html Please note: violation of this or other eBay policies may result in forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings, limits on account privileges and account suspension. Please review eBay's Listing Policies and User Agreement at the following locations: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/policies.html http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html For more information on why eBay removes multiple item listings, or to write to us with questions, please review the following Web page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/listing-ended.html We thank you in advance for your cooperation. Regards, eBay Trust Safety ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
They drive me crazy I put 2 videos on tiling under tiling supplies, 60% the right catagory according to their system. I had one removed because I put video in the title according to ebay they have to go under movies and dvds??? Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/7/2005 8:22:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of my favorite titles I saw on eBay was Medieval Amish Celtic Gown. It was a brown tunic without gores -- just straight sides. Those Medieval Amish, those jokers! Hey, eBay isn't filtering for stupidity! Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
I think the basic problem is that the words were in the TITLE of the auction. If you put similar words and phrases in a conversational manner in the description of the items, I think you would be okay. I think the main problem is they are trying to make the search results (for people who search by title only) more accurate. On the other hand, there seems to be little rhyme or reason why ebay does some of the things they do, because I've seen my share of completely bogus listings with clearly misleading titles and descriptions (like a pyramid scheme with the title 18th century Irish spinning wheel!) and no amount of complaining to ebay removed the items or the seller. If I were you, I'd re-list it with those words in the description, but avoid mentioning movie. Like : Are you a big fan of Jane Austen? You will love this stunning gown that is a modern example of the styles described in Pride and Prejudice. (or whatever). People who search by looking at titles *and* descriptions will still find this item, and you can assure people who *know* what they are looking for by using a very accurate title. Denise B Iowa ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
Joan Broneske wrote: This is really odd! Maybe it's because you have Jane Austin and Pride and Prejudice together? Maybe if it was one or the other, or said Jane Austin style dress or era dress? I don't know...I've never seen anything like this. I would write to them right away and find out what the deal is. I'd be surprised if they answered. Ebay has really bad customer service. What keywords are other people using to list regency clothing? Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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How did people work it out when selling Titanic era dresses? If someone was a fan of a period movie, they might search on the movie title to see what merchandise was available. They might not have thought about a repro gown until seeing it come up in the search. Why shouldn't someone be able to get that exposure? It sounds like they're making too broad a rule. When I rule the entire world, things will be different ... :-) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Re: [h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 2:38 am, A J Garden wrote: Hi, just want to warn others - I got this message tonight - I did not realise I was spamming. What are your thoughts? I make Regency dresses for sale. Thanks, Aylwen Garden I don't sell on EBay (though I often shop there) but my guess is that the following portion of their canned message to you explains the problem. [snip] * Use of Celebrity or Artist Names: At present, our policy does not permit members to include celebrity names, or the names of artists, authors, or other known figures in the listing title other than the specific celebrity or known figure that has created, written or officially endorsed the item being offered in the listing. From the perspective of our policy, celebrity names are treated as being synonymous with brand names. You mentioned Jane Austen in the heading, so it was probably flagged automatically by their system even though she's been dead nearly 200 years. :-) It may also be that their policy prohibits the use of movie titles in item captions also. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/keyword-spam.html Might help explain too. -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics is like sex; sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.--Richard Feynman ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming
Hi, just want to warn others - I got this message tonight - I did not realise I was spamming. What are your thoughts? I make Regency dresses for sale. Thanks, Aylwen Garden Original Message Subject:eBay Listing Removed: Keyword Spamming (=LS 7193 JM5023424) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:22:44 PST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear cottager87, We appreciate that you chose eBay to list the following multiple item listing(s): 8359259226 - Regency Dress: Jane Austen 1800s Pride Prejudice Gown However, your listing was in violation of eBay's Keyword Spamming policy and has been removed from eBay. We have credited all associated fees to your account and notified eBay users associated with the transaction that it has been cancelled. We would like to take this opportunity to let you know what part of your listing is not permitted. Your listing(s) contains the following information: In Title: Jane Austen 1800s Pride Prejudice Keyword spamming is not permitted on eBay. This typically occurs when members place brand names or other inappropriate keywords in a title or description for the purpose of gaining attention or diverting members to a listing. * Use of Brand Names: Our policy does not permit members to include any brand names in the listing title other than the specific brand name used by the company that manufactured or produced the item being offered in the listing. * Custom-made items: Although an item may be fabricated to visually match a specific product line of a recognized brand name, members are not permitted to include the name of the product line, or the related brand name in the listing title. * Use of Celebrity or Artist Names: At present, our policy does not permit members to include celebrity names, or the names of artists, authors, or other known figures in the listing title other than the specific celebrity or known figure that has created, written or officially endorsed the item being offered in the listing. From the perspective of our policy, celebrity names are treated as being synonymous with brand names. This means that although a celebrity may have worn a similar item, or made such an item popular in current pop-culture, members are not permitted to use the names of these celebrities or known figures in the listing title. Our policy permits a seller to use *one* name as a comparison within the subtitle or description section of the listing. For more information on Keyword Spamming visit the following Help page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/keyword-spam.html Please note: violation of this or other eBay policies may result in forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings, limits on account privileges and account suspension. Please review eBay's Listing Policies and User Agreement at the following locations: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/policies.html http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html For more information on why eBay removes multiple item listings, or to write to us with questions, please review the following Web page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/listing-ended.html We thank you in advance for your cooperation. Regards, eBay Trust Safety ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
