RE: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms
Wow, those look so real. I have a tree in my yard and the blossoms/buds look just like that. So much better than today's silk flowers. To me, the buds look like cotton swabs. Maybe they're made the same way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beth Chamberlain Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:36 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: FW: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms I guess including the link would have been helpful. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=452nioh3.7h56f6ev&x=0&y=-l0cwzu Beth -Original Message- From: Beth Chamberlain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:09 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: RE: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms I have the remains of either a great or gr-gr grandmother's headpiece. It is a mix of cloth flowers coated in wax and "buds" which appear almost entirely wax though they are too light so the core must be something else. The leaves are green fabric very lightly coated. Unfortunately it's been disjointed so I have no idea how it was originally arranged. And, it was stored in an attic and the wax softened enough that parts are quite well stuck together. Beth Chamberlain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms
These do look similar to some of mine. Part of this seems to be garland-like. I have some wedding photos that I found while traveling, and many were from the New Branfells TX. where there was a German culture the turn of the 20th C. The women are dressed in dark (black?) gowns. What distinguishes the pics as 'wedding' is the peculiar garland that drapes across the head from knee to knee...no other veil. The grooms sport a boutinere of like flowers. My head pieces are all with a wire ring or stiffened band ; this is wrapped with ribbon and the flowers are attached with a very fine wire. Kathleen - Original Message - From: "Beth Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Historical Costume'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 12:35 AM Subject: FW: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms I guess including the link would have been helpful. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=452nioh3.7h56f6ev&x=0&y=-l0cwzu Beth -Original Message- From: Beth Chamberlain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:09 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: RE: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms I have the remains of either a great or gr-gr grandmother's headpiece. It is a mix of cloth flowers coated in wax and "buds" which appear almost entirely wax though they are too light so the core must be something else. The leaves are green fabric very lightly coated. Unfortunately it's been disjointed so I have no idea how it was originally arranged. And, it was stored in an attic and the wax softened enough that parts are quite well stuck together. Beth Chamberlain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
FW: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms
I guess including the link would have been helpful. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=452nioh3.7h56f6ev&x=0&y=-l0cwzu Beth -Original Message- From: Beth Chamberlain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:09 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: RE: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms I have the remains of either a great or gr-gr grandmother's headpiece. It is a mix of cloth flowers coated in wax and "buds" which appear almost entirely wax though they are too light so the core must be something else. The leaves are green fabric very lightly coated. Unfortunately it's been disjointed so I have no idea how it was originally arranged. And, it was stored in an attic and the wax softened enough that parts are quite well stuck together. Beth Chamberlain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms
I just took all the pieces out of their box and underneath the tissue paper they have tried to melt onto was a note: "Orange blossoms on veil Lavilla May LaCoste Murphy Nov. 15, 1894" That would be my great grandmother. When she married she was middle class but pretty much at the upper edge of that. I probably have a hundred pictures of her but no wedding pictures. If anyone is interested I posted a few pictures of the flowers. Unfortunately they are quite beaten up. Beth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LLOYD MITCHELL Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:10 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms If you look at old photos of the turn of the century(20th) you will see some wedding gowns that were 'sprigged' with "orange blossoms" for a wedding; these trims were then removed (and saved?), so that all such trims might not have been used for the headpiece. Your treasure trove gives me some evidence that the florals might have been faux...at least for the middle class. Thanks for the contribution. Kathleen - Original Message - From: "Beth Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Historical Costume'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:09 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms >I have the remains of either a great or gr-gr grandmother's headpiece. It >is > a mix of cloth flowers coated in wax and "buds" which appear almost > entirely > wax though they are too light so the core must be something else. The > leaves > are green fabric very lightly coated. Unfortunately it's been disjointed > so > I have no idea how it was originally arranged. And, it was stored in an > attic and the wax softened enough that parts are quite well stuck > together. > > Beth Chamberlain > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms
If you look at old photos of the turn of the century(20th) you will see some wedding gowns that were 'sprigged' with "orange blossoms" for a wedding; these trims were then removed (and saved?), so that all such trims might not have been used for the headpiece. Your treasure trove gives me some evidence that the florals might have been faux...at least for the middle class. Thanks for the contribution. Kathleen - Original Message - From: "Beth Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Historical Costume'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:09 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms I have the remains of either a great or gr-gr grandmother's headpiece. It is a mix of cloth flowers coated in wax and "buds" which appear almost entirely wax though they are too light so the core must be something else. The leaves are green fabric very lightly coated. Unfortunately it's been disjointed so I have no idea how it was originally arranged. And, it was stored in an attic and the wax softened enough that parts are quite well stuck together. Beth Chamberlain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms
I have the remains of either a great or gr-gr grandmother's headpiece. It is a mix of cloth flowers coated in wax and "buds" which appear almost entirely wax though they are too light so the core must be something else. The leaves are green fabric very lightly coated. Unfortunately it's been disjointed so I have no idea how it was originally arranged. And, it was stored in an attic and the wax softened enough that parts are quite well stuck together. Beth Chamberlain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms
I have severel antique headpieces and was never able to tell if they featured real waxed blossoms or is they were formed with wax over cloth. Thanks for your input. For this doll, I will use tiny faux flowers dipped in wax and mount them on a garland of faux boxwood,for the gown. the headpiece will be a wire form with additional flowers treated in the same way...following the crown design of one of my antiques. Kathleen - Original Message - From: "Terri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: [h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms I am in the process of doing my niece's wedding gown circa 1898. I was fortunate enough to see a vintage headwreath for a wedding ensemble and the blossoms referred to are actually little replica orange blossoms moulded in wax ,hand painted and I believe they had some sort of shellac over the wax since it had browned a bit and was cracked. Hope that helps. Terri Casey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] "wax" orange blossoms
I am in the process of doing my niece's wedding gown circa 1898. I was fortunate enough to see a vintage headwreath for a wedding ensemble and the blossoms referred to are actually little replica orange blossoms moulded in wax ,hand painted and I believe they had some sort of shellac over the wax since it had browned a bit and was cracked. Hope that helps. Terri Casey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
