RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-05 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 02:19 05/07/2007, you wrote:

more pictures
http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Various_8.htm
perhaps the Margo Anderson pattern might help as the hanging sleeve is a
carry over from the late 1500s.
De


Thanks - I had all these that are relevant. I don't have time to get 
patterns - I have The Tudor Tailor and Hunnisett - I just wanted 
something different!


Suzi



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http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg
Thank you - there a couple there I had not come across before - I
just wish they'd turn round do I could see the hanging sleeves better!!

Suzi


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RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-05 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 10:39 05/07/2007, you wrote:

Actually I was thinking you could have a look online at the pattern.
The site doesn't allow you to go directly to the pattern so,
http://www.margospatterns.com/
You want the Elizabethan Lady's Wardrobe (click on it) Then scroll down to
the Eight sleeve styles to have a rough idea of the long sleeve.


Thanks, but I have patterns for sleeves like those, from Hunnisett, 
and have actually made long sleeves like that for another garment.


http://tinyurl.com/2gmgoq

This is my current favourite - I like the split at the bottom edge.

Suzi



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RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-05 Thread Anne Moeller
This is a fascinating gown.  Do you know where the original picture is?  I
would love a really good copy.

Anne

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http://www.tudor-portraits.com/DianaCecil.jpg

I've seen plenty of slashing on sleeves, but this is the first picture 
I've ever seen with slashing on the skirt!
Michelle

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RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-05 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 19:36 05/07/2007, you wrote:

This is a fascinating gown.  Do you know where the original picture is?  I
would love a really good copy.


This is now at Kenwood House, apparently, in North London. It was 
formerly at the Ranger's House in Blackheath, and I thought was part 
of the Iveagh Bequest. However, I understand it is actually part of 
the Suffolk  Collection of mostly Jacobean portraits.


Suzi 


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Re: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-05 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
I have seen it before, and i still think its overdone, and if you really 
want my oppinion, i dont like the slashing at all, what a waist of 
beautifull brocade...

Sorry :-(
I know it was very fashionable.still

Bjarne

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This is a fascinating gown.  Do you know where the original picture is?  I
would love a really good copy.

Anne

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Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 9:39 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

http://www.tudor-portraits.com/DianaCecil.jpg

I've seen plenty of slashing on sleeves, but this is the first picture
I've ever seen with slashing on the skirt!
Michelle

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RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-05 Thread otsisto
Nice.
Someone may have already suggested it but how about some small lace along
the edge as an option? metallic?
Or combine the split and gold lace?
De
whose brain this week seems to be in first gear and slips into neutral
periodically.
-Original Message-
Thanks, but I have patterns for sleeves like those, from Hunnisett,
and have actually made long sleeves like that for another garment.

http://tinyurl.com/2gmgoq

This is my current favourite - I like the split at the bottom edge.

Suzi



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RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-05 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 21:34 05/07/2007, you wrote:

Nice.
Someone may have already suggested it but how about some small lace along
the edge as an option? metallic?
Or combine the split and gold lace?


I have some gold/crimson/blue brocade left from the underskirt which 
will edge inside the sleeve, plus whatever is left of the 50 metres 
of gold braid/lace which I am sewing to the crimson/blue shot taffeta 
of the skirt, bodice and sleeves - this will shine, you can be sure of that!!



De
whose brain this week seems to be in first gear and slips into neutral
periodically.
-Original Message-
Thanks, but I have patterns for sleeves like those, from Hunnisett,
and have actually made long sleeves like that for another garment.

http://tinyurl.com/2gmgoq

This is my current favourite - I like the split at the bottom edge.

Suzi



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RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-04 Thread otsisto
Bohemia
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1610_2.shtml
spain
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1606_1.shtml
english
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/161x_6.shtml
baveria
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1613_1.shtml
france
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/161x_4.shtml
denmark
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1623_3.shtml
german
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1623_1.shtml

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http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg

Suzi


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RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-04 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 21:21 04/07/2007, you wrote:

Bohemia
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1610_2.shtml
spain
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1606_1.shtml
english
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/161x_6.shtml
baveria
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1613_1.shtml
france
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/161x_4.shtml
denmark
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1623_3.shtml
german
http://www.marquise.de/en/1600/pics/1623_1.shtml

-Original Message-
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg
Thank you - there a couple there I had not come across before - I 
just wish they'd turn round do I could see the hanging sleeves better!!


Suzi

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RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-04 Thread otsisto
more pictures
http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Various_8.htm
perhaps the Margo Anderson pattern might help as the hanging sleeve is a
carry over from the late 1500s.
De


-Original Message-
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/Sistersuzi/1600dress_9.jpg
Thank you - there a couple there I had not come across before - I
just wish they'd turn round do I could see the hanging sleeves better!!

Suzi


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RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-04 Thread Michelle Plumb

http://www.tudor-portraits.com/DianaCecil.jpg

I've seen plenty of slashing on sleeves, but this is the first picture 
I've ever seen with slashing on the skirt!

Michelle
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RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-04 Thread Sharon Collier
Given how odd it looks, I'm not surprised!

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Subject: RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?


http://www.tudor-portraits.com/DianaCecil.jpg

I've seen plenty of slashing on sleeves, but this is the first picture 
I've ever seen with slashing on the skirt!
Michelle
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Re: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?

2007-07-04 Thread Alexandria Doyle

In Arnold's POF there is at least one of the loose gowns from the
later period that has slashing on the whole of the gown, and by the
way the pattern/slashings are she thought that the gown had been
remade to the current state.

alex

On 7/4/07, Sharon Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Given how odd it looks, I'm not surprised!

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Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 6:39 PM
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Subject: RE: [h-cost] 1620 dress images?


http://www.tudor-portraits.com/DianaCecil.jpg

I've seen plenty of slashing on sleeves, but this is the first picture
I've ever seen with slashing on the skirt!
Michelle
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