RE: [h-cost] viking apron dress

[otsisto]

Thank you. I have TVAL site earmarked so I never used it on Vigdis' site. I
have notified the web"minister" of the site of the problem.
Here is my earmark for TVAL
http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/index.shtml

De

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Just a heads up. If you follow the first "extra info" link to http://
www.vikinganswerlady.org/, you will get a rather nasty site that
tries to put malware on your computer.  I'm on Mac, so it didn't
manage to do bad things, but I had to hard close my browser to leave
the site. If you know who links to that site, you might want them to
update their links.
Althea


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Re: [h-cost] viking apron dress

[Althea Turner]

Just a heads up. If you follow the first "extra info" link to http:// 
www.vikinganswerlady.org/, you will get a rather nasty site that  
tries to put malware on your computer.  I'm on Mac, so it didn't  
manage to do bad things, but I had to hard close my browser to leave  
the site. If you know who links to that site, you might want them to  
update their links.

Althea

On Jun 9, 2007, at 4:21 PM, otsisto wrote:

It would be snug in the chest area. I have an apron dress that is  
snug in
the bust for a wee bit o' support. The weave of the fabric allows  
some give

so that you can pull it over the head.
This is similar to the pattern I made.
http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/mjc/sca/aprond.html

extra info
http://www.silverdor.org/viking/vikingad.html

http://www.tjurslakter.nl/viking%20apron-dress.pdf

http://www.earlyperiod.com/articles/viking-apron.php

http://www.vikingagevessels.org/documents/C_%20Viking%20Womens% 
20Costume.pdf


http://members.aol.com/MtFreehold/Viking_handout_women.pdf

I had another site earmarked but can seem to find it.

De

-Original Message-
Hi,

a friend of mine has asked me to sew a viking apron dress for her.   
But the
thing that makes me wonder is that she wants it to be fitted, which  
would
most certainly mean a fastening. Now that's the trouble: I've never  
heard of
any viking fastening but of a brooch or something. Do you know  
something

about that? Were all viking dresses so loose that they didn't need any
fastening? If not, what would the fastening be?

Many thanks,

Zuzana


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RE: [h-cost] viking apron dress

[Zuzana Kraemerova]

Wow, thanks for all the webpages!! And thanks for the info, too! I think I'll 
try to shape it a little but have loose enough to pull over the head:-)) 

Zuzana

   
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RE: [h-cost] viking apron dress

[otsisto]

It would be snug in the chest area. I have an apron dress that is snug in
the bust for a wee bit o' support. The weave of the fabric allows some give
so that you can pull it over the head.
This is similar to the pattern I made.
http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/mjc/sca/aprond.html

extra info
http://www.silverdor.org/viking/vikingad.html

http://www.tjurslakter.nl/viking%20apron-dress.pdf

http://www.earlyperiod.com/articles/viking-apron.php

http://www.vikingagevessels.org/documents/C_%20Viking%20Womens%20Costume.pdf

http://members.aol.com/MtFreehold/Viking_handout_women.pdf

I had another site earmarked but can seem to find it.

De

-Original Message-
Hi,

a friend of mine has asked me to sew a viking apron dress for her.  But the
thing that makes me wonder is that she wants it to be fitted, which would
most certainly mean a fastening. Now that's the trouble: I've never heard of
any viking fastening but of a brooch or something. Do you know something
about that? Were all viking dresses so loose that they didn't need any
fastening? If not, what would the fastening be?

Many thanks,

Zuzana


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Re: [h-cost] viking apron dress

[Judy Mitchell]

Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:

Hi,

a friend of mine has asked me to sew a viking apron dress for her.  But the 
thing that makes me wonder is that she wants it to be fitted, which would most 
certainly mean a fastening. Now that's the trouble: I've never heard of any 
viking fastening but of a brooch or something. Do you know something about 
that? Were all viking dresses so loose that they didn't need any fastening? If 
not, what would the fastening be?


Hi,

	The underdress/smock and the dress are basically 2-4 gored dresses, 
that pull over your head. While they can be somewhat tight, they still 
have to go over the bust and not rip when you bend or move your arms. 
Some men's styles of sleevs were tight enough that it was a woman's job 
to sew the sleeves ends closed once the men were dressed, not sure if 
the women's were ever that tight. If you made a keyole neckline, there 
was usually a small brooch to hold it closed, although scoop necks were 
also known.


	The apron-dress is a layer on top of the dress. Yes, it does involve 2 
brooches that attach spaghetti-strap loops from the back to tiny loops 
on the front. The apron dress again goes over the head, but the top 
edges is about armpit level. Does it have to be a shapeless bag? nope.


	There are many styles of apron-dresses, but if you make it out of 
rectangular panels with gores inserted in between 
  you can do a bit 
of tailoring to still make it fit tightly at the upper body and flow 
nicley over the hips. Also, there is some evidence that Inga Hagg 
mentions in her Hedeby book, about long darts at the side, which would 
have run from the top edge to about the waste, and they would create 
more tailoring.


	I usually made my apron-dresses by measuring from bust point to bust 
point and making that my panel width. Figuring than how many panels it 
would take to go around me, and adding in gores in between. There was 
usually some bagginess at the top, but those side darts could take a lot 
of that out. As long as you can still get out of it! Others prefer make 
their panel width more dependant on fabric width and figure how many of 
those it would take to wrap around. I figure they were working on a 
warp-weighted loom and would weave whatever width they darn well wanted.


	Because of my particular shape, I prefered the additional in gores. 
Many people who are thinner prefer the gores calculated into the panels 
creating fewer seams (I can't get that out of my fabric).


Hope this helps,
-Judy Mitchell
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