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I believe the reason people are having trouble finding starch depends on supply and demand. I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle of Sta-flo starch in my area. If there is not a big demand for the product in your area, the stores will drop the product. In my county, there is diversity in age depending where you live. In the neighborhoods near me, people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch. If I drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it. Many do not even own an ironing board. As far as product selection and retailers: Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC. We have problems with Costco dropping products. The documentary explains how Costco buys, product lines, markets, etc. The problem is that the retailer and manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices. When this happens, Costco drops the product. Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer retailers have 25%. Costco is the number one retailer right now. When Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the top three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer. Costco carries a limited assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give customers choices. Research shows that if you only have one or two choices of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to another grocery store. Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and will not purchase. Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853 Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper retailers. BTW, you can still buy SK goods at Costco. http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=2601slug=40239 91 Which would you choose for clothing-- Costco's 15% markup or a department store's 50%+ markup for a designer brand. My husband and I did an interesting survey last week. I was at Sam's Club and he was at Costco at the same time. We both had a copy of our monthly grocery list. We talked on the cell phone and compared prices. Sam's does carry a larger assortment of products than Costco. Costco only carries 4,000 products. Off the mainland U.S., Costco carries more products...I've been to their stores in Hawaii and Liverpool, England...love them! I wish we had the choices these location have. A big problem with retailers and manufacturers is the extreme couponers who are purchasing entire shelves of products. I don't think either end knows how to get a grip on this problem. But it is causing problems of keeping merchandise on the shelves for the other customers to purchase. Lastly, some retailers have different prices according to the location of the store. I have seen this at Lowe's and Food Lion within 10 miles of my house. Strange, both charge higher prices in lower income areas. Lowe's actually carries lower and higher ends goods at higher income neighborhoods. Now, Lowe's is tracking your purchases by your name. Try it! Get their Lowe's discount card, and purchase an item. Go to any Lowe's without a receipt to return the product. They will scan the item and card, and pull up your receipt from when you originally purchased the item. This can be good and bad. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I googled both Argo and Sta-flo and these brands are readily available on line...coupons and free shipping for some of the sites. Letting my fingers do the shopping sure saves on gas! -Original Message- From: penn...@costumegallery.com Sent 5/17/2012 3:44:33 AM To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !I believe the reason people are having trouble finding starch depends on supply and demand. I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle of Sta-flo starch in my area. If there is not a big demand for the product in your area, the stores will drop the product. In my county, there is diversity in age depending where you live. In the neighborhoods near me, people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch. If I drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it. Many do not even own an ironing board. As far as product selection and retailers: Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC. We have problems with Costco dropping products. The documentary explains how Costco buys, product lines, markets, etc. The problem is that the retailer and manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices. When this happens, Costco drops the product. Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer retailers have 25%. Costco is the number one retailer right now. When Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the top three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer. Costco carries a limited assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give customers choices. Research shows that if you only have one or two choices of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to another grocery store. Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and will not purchase. Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853 Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper retailers. BTW, you can still buy SK goods at Costco. http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=2601slug=40239 91 Which would you choose for clothing-- Costco's 15% markup or a department store's 50%+ markup for a designer brand. My husband and I did an interesting survey last week. I was at Sam's Club and he was at Costco at the same time. We both had a copy of our monthly grocery list. We talked on the cell phone and compared prices. Sam's does carry a larger assortment of products than Costco. Costco only carries 4,000 products. Off the mainland U.S., Costco carries more products...I've been to their stores in Hawaii and Liverpool, England...love them! I wish we had the choices these location have. A big problem with retailers and manufacturers is the extreme couponers who are purchasing entire shelves of products. I don't think either end knows how to get a grip on this problem. But it is causing problems of keeping merchandise on the shelves for the other customers to purchase. Lastly, some retailers have different prices according to the location of the store. I have seen this at Lowe's and Food Lion within 10 miles of my house. Strange, both charge higher prices in lower income areas. Lowe's actually carries lower and higher ends goods at higher income neighborhoods. Now, Lowe's is tracking your purchases by your name. Try it! Get their Lowe's discount card, and purchase an item. Go to any Lowe's without a receipt to return the product. They will scan the item and card, and pull up your receipt from when you originally purchased the item. This can be good and bad. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Many formerly readily available items are available via mail order, granted. But that doesn't help if you need it tomorrow! I know, I know, just need to plan ahead. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 6:56 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! I googled both Argo and Sta-flo and these brands are readily available on line...coupons and free shipping for some of the sites. Letting my fingers do the shopping sure saves on gas! -Original Message- From: penn...@costumegallery.com Sent 5/17/2012 3:44:33 AM To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !I believe the reason people are having trouble finding starch depends on supply and demand. I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle of Sta-flo starch in my area. If there is not a big demand for the product in your area, the stores will drop the product. In my county, there is diversity in age depending where you live. In the neighborhoods near me, people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch. If I drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it. Many do not even own an ironing board. As far as product selection and retailers: Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC. We have problems with Costco dropping products. The documentary explains how Costco buys, product lines, markets, etc. The problem is that the retailer and manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices. When this happens, Costco drops the product. Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer retailers have 25%. Costco is the number one retailer right now. When Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the top three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer. Costco carries a limited assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give customers choices. Research shows that if you only have one or two choices of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to another grocery store. Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and will not purchase. Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853 Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper retailers. BTW, you can still buy SK goods at Costco. http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=2601slug=40239 91 Which would you choose for clothing-- Costco's 15% markup or a department store's 50%+ markup for a designer brand. My husband and I did an interesting survey last week. I was at Sam's Club and he was at Costco at the same time. We both had a copy of our monthly grocery list. We talked on the cell phone and compared prices. Sam's does carry a larger assortment of products than Costco. Costco only carries 4,000 products. Off the mainland U.S., Costco carries more products...I've been to their stores in Hawaii and Liverpool, England...love them! I wish we had the choices these location have. A big problem with retailers and manufacturers is the extreme couponers who are purchasing entire shelves of products. I don't think either end knows how to get a grip on this problem. But it is causing problems of keeping merchandise on the shelves for the other customers to purchase. Lastly, some retailers have different prices according to the location of the store. I have seen this at Lowe's and Food Lion within 10 miles of my house. Strange, both charge higher prices in lower income areas. Lowe's actually carries lower and higher ends goods at higher income neighborhoods. Now, Lowe's is tracking your purchases by your name. Try it! Get their Lowe's discount card, and purchase an item. Go to any Lowe's without a receipt to return the product. They will scan the item and card, and pull up your receipt from when you originally purchased the item. This can be good and bad. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Exactly--I miss the days of being able to pop out to the store and grab the dye I need that day, or have a jug of liquid starch available when I don't have the time to mix my own,, I do still have one of the Wal-Marts with a fabric section nearby, so I can pop out for kid's costume fabrics if I need to. Small consolation for the Fabric Place being gone. On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:35 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Many formerly readily available items are available via mail order, granted. But that doesn't help if you need it tomorrow! I know, I know, just need to plan ahead. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 6:56 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! I googled both Argo and Sta-flo and these brands are readily available on line...coupons and free shipping for some of the sites. Letting my fingers do the shopping sure saves on gas! -Original Message- From: penn...@costumegallery.com Sent 5/17/2012 3:44:33 AM To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !I believe the reason people are having trouble finding starch depends on supply and demand. I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle of Sta-flo starch in my area. If there is not a big demand for the product in your area, the stores will drop the product. In my county, there is diversity in age depending where you live. In the neighborhoods near me, people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch. If I drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it. Many do not even own an ironing board. As far as product selection and retailers: Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC. We have problems with Costco dropping products. The documentary explains how Costco buys, product lines, markets, etc. The problem is that the retailer and manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices. When this happens, Costco drops the product. Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer retailers have 25%. Costco is the number one retailer right now. When Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the top three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer. Costco carries a limited assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give customers choices. Research shows that if you only have one or two choices of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to another grocery store. Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and will not purchase. Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853 Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper retailers. BTW, you can still buy SK goods at Costco. http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=2601slug=40239 91 Which would you choose for clothing-- Costco's 15% markup or a department store's 50%+ markup for a designer brand. My husband and I did an interesting survey last week. I was at Sam's Club and he was at Costco at the same time. We both had a copy of our monthly grocery list. We talked on the cell phone and compared prices. Sam's does carry a larger assortment of products than Costco. Costco only carries 4,000 products. Off the mainland U.S., Costco carries more products...I've been to their stores in Hawaii and Liverpool, England...love them! I wish we had the choices these location have. A big problem with retailers and manufacturers is the extreme couponers who are purchasing entire shelves of products. I don't think either end knows how to get a grip on this problem. But it is causing problems of keeping merchandise on the shelves for the other customers to purchase. Lastly, some retailers have different prices according to the location of the store. I have seen this at Lowe's and Food Lion within 10 miles of my house. Strange, both charge higher prices in lower income areas. Lowe's actually carries lower and higher ends goods at higher income neighborhoods. Now, Lowe's is tracking your purchases by your name. Try it! Get their Lowe's discount card, and purchase an item. Go to any Lowe's without a receipt to return the product. They will scan the item and card, and pull up your receipt from when you originally purchased the item. This can be good and bad. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery
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Does seem rather ironic that we have access to all kinds of exotic things we never thought we could get our hands on, via the Internet, but, locally, our choices are less and less. I still have one JoAnn's that is run out and pick up a spool of thread close enough, and two more, along with G Street Fabrics, within reasonable driving distance. But even G Street's assortment is sadly not what it once was--it is a sorry state of affairs when I go there with a 25% off coupon and can't find one thing I want to buy! I think ALL of our WalMarts have gone out of the fabric business. I know their assortment was hit or miss, but I once scored 6 yards of blue/orange Indian cotton plaid that made great early 19th century headwraps in the $1 bin. Hobby Lobby, which recently opened in our area, has a decent assortment of cotton prints. (When I reminded someone of that, she complained because they are more than $5 a yard, but THEY DO HAVE THEM!) Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 9:16 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! Exactly--I miss the days of being able to pop out to the store and grab the ye I need that day, or have a jug of liquid starch available when I don't ave the time to mix my own,, I do still have one of the Wal-Marts with fabric section nearby, so I can pop out for kid's costume fabrics if I eed to. Small consolation for the Fabric Place being gone. On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:35 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Many formerly readily available items are available via mail order, granted. But that doesn't help if you need it tomorrow! I know, I know, just need to plan ahead. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 6:56 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! I googled both Argo and Sta-flo and these brands are readily available on line...coupons and free shipping for some of the sites. Letting my fingers do the shopping sure saves on gas! -Original Message- From: penn...@costumegallery.com Sent 5/17/2012 3:44:33 AM To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !I believe the reason people are having trouble finding starch depends on supply and demand. I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle of Sta-flo starch in my area. If there is not a big demand for the product in your area, the stores will drop the product. In my county, there is diversity in age depending where you live. In the neighborhoods near me, people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch. If I drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it. Many do not even own an ironing board. As far as product selection and retailers: Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC. We have problems with Costco dropping products. The documentary explains how Costco buys, product lines, markets, etc. The problem is that the retailer and manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices. When this happens, Costco drops the product. Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer retailers have 25%. Costco is the number one retailer right now. When Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the top three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer. Costco carries a limited assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give customers choices. Research shows that if you only have one or two choices of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to another grocery store. Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and will not purchase. Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853 Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper retailers. BTW, you can still buy SK goods at Costco. http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=2601slug=40239 91 Which would you choose for clothing-- Costco's 15% markup or a department store's 50%+ markup for a designer brand. My husband and I did an interesting survey last week. I was at Sam's Club and he was at Costco at the same time. We both had a copy of our monthly grocery list. We talked on the cell phone and compared prices. Sam's does carry a larger assortment of products than Costco. Costco only carries 4,000 products. Off the mainland U.S., Costco carries more products...I've been to their stores in Hawaii and Liverpool, England...love them! I
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All our Walmarts got rid of their fabric awhile back - but they've brought it back. It's not what it was and it is hit and miss, but its better than nothing. What I've found with our JoAnns is that so many things are on sale and as such, coupons are useless - if I really need to use a coupon on fabric, I have to plan early enough to get it the one or two weeks of the year it's NOT on sale. That and their employees are not helpful on fabric - I worked for them for a while and they loved me simply because I knew the difference between cotton and wool! Michael Deibert OAS AAS LLS Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2012, at 9:44, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Does seem rather ironic that we have access to all kinds of exotic things we never thought we could get our hands on, via the Internet, but, locally, our choices are less and less. I still have one JoAnn's that is run out and pick up a spool of thread close enough, and two more, along with G Street Fabrics, within reasonable driving distance. But even G Street's assortment is sadly not what it once was--it is a sorry state of affairs when I go there with a 25% off coupon and can't find one thing I want to buy! I think ALL of our WalMarts have gone out of the fabric business. I know their assortment was hit or miss, but I once scored 6 yards of blue/orange Indian cotton plaid that made great early 19th century headwraps in the $1 bin. Hobby Lobby, which recently opened in our area, has a decent assortment of cotton prints. (When I reminded someone of that, she complained because they are more than $5 a yard, but THEY DO HAVE THEM!) Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 9:16 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! Exactly--I miss the days of being able to pop out to the store and grab the ye I need that day, or have a jug of liquid starch available when I don't ave the time to mix my own,, I do still have one of the Wal-Marts with fabric section nearby, so I can pop out for kid's costume fabrics if I eed to. Small consolation for the Fabric Place being gone. On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:35 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Many formerly readily available items are available via mail order, granted. But that doesn't help if you need it tomorrow! I know, I know, just need to plan ahead. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 6:56 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! I googled both Argo and Sta-flo and these brands are readily available on line...coupons and free shipping for some of the sites. Letting my fingers do the shopping sure saves on gas! -Original Message- From: penn...@costumegallery.com Sent 5/17/2012 3:44:33 AM To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !I believe the reason people are having trouble finding starch depends on supply and demand. I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle of Sta-flo starch in my area. If there is not a big demand for the product in your area, the stores will drop the product. In my county, there is diversity in age depending where you live. In the neighborhoods near me, people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch. If I drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it. Many do not even own an ironing board. As far as product selection and retailers: Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC. We have problems with Costco dropping products. The documentary explains how Costco buys, product lines, markets, etc. The problem is that the retailer and manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices. When this happens, Costco drops the product. Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer retailers have 25%. Costco is the number one retailer right now. When Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the top three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer. Costco carries a limited assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give customers choices. Research shows that if you only have one or two choices of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to another grocery store. Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and will not purchase. Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853 Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper
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In my neighborhood (in NYC) some of the little mom and pop ethnic convenience stores still sell Argo. Hard to find Linit, though (the liquid starch I used to get and use for a number of things...) Anne On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote: Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant: Those *%$$! bxstards at the #@^$! supermarket have stopped stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant. You bxstards! -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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And superfine sugar, and tarragon vinegar, and . . . . Heard a woman the other day swear that our largest local chain deliberately goes through and quits carrying x items a month that she buys all the time. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: stilskin stils...@netspace.net.au To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 6:50 am Subject: [h-cost] Gr ... ! Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant: Those *%$$! bxstards at the #@^$! supermarket have stopped stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant. You bxstards! -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock up on things when I find them! I have to get around to ordering some Srgo starch to try before the summer starching season. My supermarket now doesn't carry dyes, just color remover. Katy On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote: Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant: Those *%$$! bxstards at the #@^$! supermarket have stopped stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant. You bxstards! -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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You can still get Argo starch at Lehman's Hardware in Kidron, OH (or mail order) http://www.lehmans.com/store/Home_Goods___Laundry___Washing___Argo_Laundry_Starch___1074030#1074030 Patty I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock up on things when I find them! I have to get around to ordering some Srgo starch to try before the summer starching season. My supermarket now doesn't carry dyes, just color remover. Katy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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potato starch is stil available at grocerystores in the baking section or if you have a way to shop a kosher food place Bambi (To be named later) TBNL I am made for great things by GOD and walk with Pride Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad Twitter: hippydippydncr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMtOoXtMs0 From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock up on things when I find them! I have to get around to ordering some Srgo starch to try before the summer starching season. My supermarket now doesn't carry dyes, just color remover. Katy On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote: Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant: Those *%$$! bxstards at the #@^$! supermarket have stopped stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant. You bxstards! -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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You can get Argo from Rose Brand Theatrical supplies http://www.rosebrand.com/product14/Argo-Starch.aspx?tid=2info=argo Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Bambi TBNL Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:20 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! potato starch is stil available at grocerystores in the baking section or if you have a way to shop a kosher food place Bambi (To be named later) TBNL I am made for great things by GOD and walk with Pride Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad Twitter: hippydippydncr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMtOoXtMs0 From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock up on things when I find them! I have to get around to ordering some Srgo starch to try before the summer starching season. My supermarket now doesn't carry dyes, just color remover. Katy On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote: Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant: Those *%$$! bxstards at the #@^$! supermarket have stopped stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant. You bxstards! -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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If mot, you. Can try to boil your own from potatoes. You might find a rwcipe to test before you dind one that works for you. Look online for recepe and other sources Sent from my iPhone On May 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Kathryn Pinner pinn...@mccc.edu wrote: You can get Argo from Rose Brand Theatrical supplies http://www.rosebrand.com/product14/Argo-Starch.aspx?tid=2info=argo Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Bambi TBNL Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:20 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! potato starch is stil available at grocerystores in the baking section or if you have a way to shop a kosher food place Bambi (To be named later) TBNL I am made for great things by GOD and walk with Pride Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad Twitter: hippydippydncr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMtOoXtMs0 From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock up on things when I find them! I have to get around to ordering some Srgo starch to try before the summer starching season. My supermarket now doesn't carry dyes, just color remover. Katy On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote: Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant: Those *%$$! bxstards at the #@^$! supermarket have stopped stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant. You bxstards! -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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there are lots of articles on-line about making your own at home. including a number about how to fix various problems that occur with home-made, 8-) cornstarch, potato-water starch, etc, etc. chimene On May 16, 2012, at 3:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote: Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant: Those *%$$! bxstards at the #@^$! supermarket have stopped stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant. You bxstards! -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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wow does that sound familiar... the secret computer report on what MY household buys, so they can quit carrying exactly those items! oh, and my DH's theory that the MOST POPULAR items are highly likely to get dropped, because it's so much bother re-stocking the popular stuff all the time... customers keep buying and emptying the shelves, so we have to work harder to keep these items in stock -- nah, let's drop 'em save ourselves the work and when some national corp. giant buys out your local chain and replaces LOCAL products with house-brand stuff from wherever they are home-based. chimene (where Kroger from the MidWest bought Fred Meyer of Oregon and wrought all sorts of havoc; and where local WINCO chain is expanding into CA and wreaking all sorts of havoc with their stock as they lower and lower the common denominator, dropping NW local products for stuff that they can get in greater volume, because of the CA store explosion) On May 16, 2012, at 4:52 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: And superfine sugar, and tarragon vinegar, and . . . . Heard a woman the other day swear that our largest local chain deliberately goes through and quits carrying x items a month that she buys all the time. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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My husband says the same thing! He says that they cancel the good stuff because it is too much work to keep restocking. :) Teena From: Patricia Dunham chim...@ravensgard.org To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! wow does that sound familiar... the secret computer report on what MY household buys, so they can quit carrying exactly those items! oh, and my DH's theory that the MOST POPULAR items are highly likely to get dropped, because it's so much bother re-stocking the popular stuff all the time... customers keep buying and emptying the shelves, so we have to work harder to keep these items in stock -- nah, let's drop 'em save ourselves the work and when some national corp. giant buys out your local chain and replaces LOCAL products with house-brand stuff from wherever they are home-based. chimene (where Kroger from the MidWest bought Fred Meyer of Oregon and wrought all sorts of havoc; and where local WINCO chain is expanding into CA and wreaking all sorts of havoc with their stock as they lower and lower the common denominator, dropping NW local products for stuff that they can get in greater volume, because of the CA store explosion) On May 16, 2012, at 4:52 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: And superfine sugar, and tarragon vinegar, and . . . . Heard a woman the other day swear that our largest local chain deliberately goes through and quits carrying x items a month that she buys all the time. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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On May 16, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Patricia Dunham wrote: oh, and my DH's theory that the MOST POPULAR items are highly likely to get dropped, because it's so much bother re-stocking the popular stuff all the time... customers keep buying and emptying the shelves, so we have to work harder to keep these items in stock -- nah, let's drop 'em save ourselves the work and when some national corp. giant buys out your local chain and replaces LOCAL products with house-brand stuff from wherever they are home-based. I think you've nailed it there, they stock more and more of what is cheaper to source. Meanwhile, the specialty items like powdered starch don't move as fast. If people can get it from an internet source, why bother taking up shelf space? -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
