Re: [h-cost] New book 14th C Italy

2006-12-17 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 00:40 17/12/2006, you wrote:

On Saturday 16 December 2006 4:57 pm, JAMES OGILVIE wrote:
 Actually, there still isn't anything available to introduce this style to
 the person who just wants to make clothes, as opposed to doing in-depth
 research.  The artwork shows a number of styles and variations, many of
 them simple to construct and wear and Italian styles are extremely popular
 at SCA events.  A book that explains the different styles and gives some
 guidance as to how to do it RIGHT really needs to be written.

There may not be books, but there are websites.  I don't know how these would
pass muster with you from a historical accuracy perspective (Italian Ren is
not my primary area) but the following sites look pretty good to me from the
perspective of just making clothes:

http://homepages.wmich.edu/~rowen/renbk/rendressbook.html
http://ilaria.veltri.tripod.com/italiandress.html

These are actually late 15th century, though.  For 14th, aren't you just in
the so-called cotehardie or Gothic fitted dress era (especially in Italy
where simpler styles tended to prevail during that period)?  There are good
sites for that too:

http://www.cottesimple.com/
http://www.netherton.net/robin/ (the fourth link from the top of the page is
to a PDF with useful information)
http://www.maybe.org/~rodmur/sca/Cotehardie.html (all about how to alter a
particular commercial pattern into a plausible period garment)

Of course, the would-be seamstress/seamster will have to decide which if any
of these methods works with their level of skill/desired level of
authenticity


And Jean Hunnisett has a few patterns in her Period Costume for 
Stage and Screen Medieval to 1500.


Suzi

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Re: [h-cost] New book 14th C Italy

2006-12-16 Thread JAMES OGILVIE
Actually, there still isn't anything available to introduce this style to the 
person who just wants to make clothes, as opposed to doing in-depth research.  
The artwork shows a number of styles and variations, many of them simple to 
construct and wear and Italian styles are extremely popular at SCA events.  A 
book that explains the different styles and gives some guidance as to how to do 
it RIGHT really needs to be written.

Janet

  Robin wrote: ...after Moda i Firenze, Dressing
  Renaissance Florence, and so many others. I picked the wrong part of
  Europe to focus on, apparently.

  No, it is just that Italy was ignored for so long!

  Monica
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RE: [h-cost] New book 14th C Italy

2006-12-15 Thread monica spence
Robin wrote: ...after Moda i Firenze, Dressing
Renaissance Florence, and so many others. I picked the wrong part of
Europe to focus on, apparently.

No, it is just that Italy was ignored for so long!

Monica

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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Beth and Bob Matney wrote:

 After all the talk about books that are delayed in publication, I thought
 that I'd mention one that I've just got in today. Has anyone else seen it?

 Beth

 Gilding the Market: Luxury and Fashion in Fourteenth-Century Italy by
Susan
 Mosher Stuard 336 pages | 6 1/8 x 9 1/4 | 14 color, 10 b/w illus. Cloth
Dec
 2005 | ISBN 0812239008
 http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/14208.html

We have a review of it in our upcoming volume of MCT. Our reviewer liked
it. It apparently has a social/economic focus but uses everything from
sumptuary laws to visual arts as sources. Yet another great resource for
people studying Italian clothing ... after Moda i Firenze, Dressing
Renaissance Florence, and so many others. I picked the wrong part of
Europe to focus on, apparently.

--Robin


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Re: [h-cost] New book 14th C Italy

2006-12-14 Thread Robin Netherton

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Beth and Bob Matney wrote:

 After all the talk about books that are delayed in publication, I thought 
 that I'd mention one that I've just got in today. Has anyone else seen it?
 
 Beth
 
 Gilding the Market: Luxury and Fashion in Fourteenth-Century Italy by Susan 
 Mosher Stuard 336 pages | 6 1/8 x 9 1/4 | 14 color, 10 b/w illus. Cloth Dec 
 2005 | ISBN 0812239008
 http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/14208.html

We have a review of it in our upcoming volume of MCT. Our reviewer liked
it. It apparently has a social/economic focus but uses everything from
sumptuary laws to visual arts as sources. Yet another great resource for
people studying Italian clothing ... after Moda i Firenze, Dressing
Renaissance Florence, and so many others. I picked the wrong part of
Europe to focus on, apparently.

--Robin


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