Re: [Hampshire] ubuntu server 10.04 annoyance(s)

2011-05-09 Thread Simon Reap

On 09/05/2011 03:32, Isaac Close wrote:

1) user password has a maximum of 8 characters, i've tried to change this with 
passwd but it wont let me. (IMHO this is absolutely ridiculous and should NEVER 
EVER be allowed on a production server).


I've got 10.4.1 on my MPC-L, and it happily takes long passwords (I've 
just set a 30-character one, as a normal user).


Simon

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Re: [Hampshire] ref new topic

2011-05-09 Thread Jack Knight
On 9 May 2011 04:10, Stuart Biggs smbi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi

 I am running ubuntu 11.10 and having great difficulty  with my printer,
 I can get ubuntu to see and recognise it but actually getting it to
 print is a different topic all together.


11.10? Wow, can I have a ride in your tardis please? Failing that can you
please tell me next week's euromillions winning numbers?


 The printer
 make is a canon
 model is PIXMA MG5250
 it is connected via a standard USB cable.

 When I attempt to print I get no error messages suggesting
 any kind of failure at all.

 So I would appreciate  any kind of help/input
 that any one can come up with regarding this.



It's not listed in the linux foundation's supported printer list, which is
always a good place to look before buying a printer:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting

However, there appears to be a proprietary Canon driver .deb package for
Ubuntu 10.04 here, which may work for you:

http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100301702.html

You do have to scroll down a   l o n g   way to get to the download link.

or there is a tarball here:
http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010889.asp

http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100301702.htmlIf none
of those work, try posting :

Output of dmesg after you plug it in?
Output of lsusb when plugged in?

Good luck.


 Thanks in advance.

 Stuart Biggs



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Re: [Hampshire] ref new topic

2011-05-09 Thread Stuart Biggs
opps yeah ubuntu 11.04 - well its  a nice release anyway - quick compared to 
windows 7 on higher spec systems!!





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Subject: Re: [Hampshire] ref new topic


On 9 May 2011 04:10, Stuart Biggs smbi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi 


I am running ubuntu 11.10 and having great difficulty  with my printer, 
I can get ubuntu to see and recognise it but actually getting it to
print is a different topic all together.

11.10? Wow, can I have a ride in your tardis please? Failing that can you 
please 
tell me next week's euromillions winning numbers?


The printer
make is a canon
model is PIXMA MG5250
it is connected via a standard USB cable.


When I attempt to print I get no error messages suggesting
any kind of failure at all.


So I would appreciate  any kind of help/input 
that any one can come up with regarding this.


It's not listed in the linux foundation's supported printer list, which is 
always a good place to look before buying a 
printer: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting

However, there appears to be a proprietary Canon driver .deb package for Ubuntu 
10.04 here, which may work for you:

http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100301702.html

You do have to scroll down a   l o n g   way to get to the download link. 

or there is a tarball 
here: http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010889.asp 

If none of those work, try posting :

Output of dmesg after you plug it in?
Output of lsusb when plugged in?

Good luck.



Thanks in advance.

Stuart Biggs




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[Hampshire] When is it necessary to reboot

2011-05-09 Thread john lewis
Running Debian sid means the I get fairly frequent kernel updates,
mostly 'point' upgrades. 

I'm reluctant to reboot un-necessarily but do reboot when it is a major
change (like when it went from 2.6.37 to 2.6.38) but should I also
reboot on the more minor upgrades?

Incidentally I was surprised a few days back to have a message pop up
telling me I needed to reboot to complete a software update. No idea
what that was about and I ignored it ;-) 

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Re: [Hampshire] When is it necessary to reboot

2011-05-09 Thread Jack Knight
On 9 May 2011 09:12, john lewis johnle...@hantslug.org.uk wrote:

 Running Debian sid means the I get fairly frequent kernel updates,
 mostly 'point' upgrades.

 I'm reluctant to reboot un-necessarily but do reboot when it is a major
 change (like when it went from 2.6.37 to 2.6.38) but should I also
 reboot on the more minor upgrades?


Install ksplice and uptrack - then in theory you *never* have to reboot.

http://www.ksplice.com/




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 telling me I needed to reboot to complete a software update. No idea
 what that was about and I ignored it ;-)

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Re: [Hampshire] ref new topic

2011-05-09 Thread RobinT Catling
Canon Pixma hardware and drivers are notoriously buggy and uncooperative
under Linux in my experience of three of them and gets worse the cheaper the
model.

That said advice here is good, be persistent (although I eventually had to
plug my last one into a Windows VM!).

Rgds
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On 9 May 2011 08:41, Stuart Biggs smbi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 opps yeah ubuntu 11.04 - well its  a nice release anyway - quick compared
 to windows 7 on higher spec systems!!

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 On 9 May 2011 04:10, Stuart Biggs smbi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

  Hi

 I am running ubuntu 11.10 and having great difficulty  with my printer,
 I can get ubuntu to see and recognise it but actually getting it to
 print is a different topic all together.


 11.10? Wow, can I have a ride in your tardis please? Failing that can you
 please tell me next week's euromillions winning numbers?


 The printer
 make is a canon
 model is PIXMA MG5250
 it is connected via a standard USB cable.

 When I attempt to print I get no error messages suggesting
 any kind of failure at all.

 So I would appreciate  any kind of help/input
 that any one can come up with regarding this.



 It's not listed in the linux foundation's supported printer list, which is
 always a good place to look before buying a printer:
 http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting

 However, there appears to be a proprietary Canon driver .deb package for
 Ubuntu 10.04 here, which may work for you:

 http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100301702.html

 You do have to scroll down a   l o n g   way to get to the download link.

 or there is a tarball here:
 http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010889.asp

  http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100301702.htmlIf
 none of those work, try posting :

 Output of dmesg after you plug it in?
 Output of lsusb when plugged in?

 Good luck.


 Thanks in advance.

 Stuart Biggs



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Re: [Hampshire] ref new topic

2011-05-09 Thread Stuart Biggs
HI Jack 


Just to let you know I downloaded the device driver and installed 

and I did a quick test print - it appears to be working fine 

so thanks for the help.

Stuart Biggs



From: Jack Knight j...@pobox.com
To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk
Sent: Monday, 9 May 2011, 8:08
Subject: Re: [Hampshire] ref new topic


On 9 May 2011 04:10, Stuart Biggs smbi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi 


I am running ubuntu 11.10 and having great difficulty  with my printer, 
I can get ubuntu to see and recognise it but actually getting it to
print is a different topic all together.

11.10? Wow, can I have a ride in your tardis please? Failing that can you 
please tell me next week's euromillions winning numbers?


The printer
make is a canon
model is PIXMA MG5250
it is connected via a standard USB cable.


When I attempt to print I get no error messages suggesting
any kind of failure at all.


So I would appreciate  any kind of help/input 
that any one can come up with regarding this.


It's not listed in the linux foundation's supported printer list, which is 
always a good place to look before buying a 
printer: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting

However, there appears to be a proprietary Canon driver .deb package for Ubuntu 
10.04 here, which may work for you:

http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100301702.html

You do have to scroll down a   l o n g   way to get to the download link. 

or there is a tarball 
here: http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010889.asp 

If none of those work, try posting :

Output of dmesg after you plug it in?
Output of lsusb when plugged in?

Good luck.



Thanks in advance.

Stuart Biggs




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[Hampshire] www.servercircle.com

2011-05-09 Thread Peter George
Hello Hampshire Linux folk,

I'd just like to publicise a project a couple of us EdLuggers have
been working on, which may be of interest to you Linux server hackers
out there;

- Server Circle - ask and answer server questions
www.servercircle.com
Server Circle - Ask experts technical questions about anything Server
related and earn reputation points or even financial rewards when you
answer questions about Server problems.
- Server Circle - ask and answer server questions

There's a lot of Linux server QA activity on the site already.

So, we hope this is of interest, do come visit, sign up, ask and
answer questions, and get invovled!

Follow us on Twitter @ServerCircle

:-)

Regards,

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Re: [Hampshire] Linux meeting : 14 May 2011 : Nokia Southwood

2011-05-09 Thread Tony Wood

Hi Bob

Tony Wood
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Jean Wood, 01252 549884

Tony Wood
(from Linux Netbook)


On 09/05/11 13:10, robert.beat...@nokia.com wrote:

Hi LUGers,

Those wishing to come along this Saturday (@ Nokia Southwood - See Surrey LUG for 
details), please send me your name, car reg and next-of-kin details by Thursday lunchtime 
please and please mark the email Linux meeting.
If you just turn up on the day without registering, you *may* be turned away by 
our security.  :)

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Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-09 Thread Paul Tansom
** Rob Malpass li...@getiton.myzen.co.uk [2011-05-07 09:50]:
 Moving house shortly which means, for the first time, I have to have my
 father in law on my network.   Now while he's no hacker, he is fond of
 fiddling and has managed to crash his (Windows) machine so badly over the
 years that nothing short of a full reinstall has fixed it.   His fiddling
 ranges from downloading patches for stuff he's never thought of using, to
 coverdisks with offers of games if you include enough adware that checks
 for updates every time it starts up.   I'm sure you get the picture!
 
 So he's now going to be part of my LAN.   Previously, we have had the luxury
 of two broadband connections: one cable, one ADSL and I had thought of
 putting him on a separate router and let that be that.   At the new place
 though, while there are two lines, it seems pointless to pay for another
 ADSL connection just to keep him isolated.
 
 What I want is to keep him isolated so he can't even see any network
 devices, printers - just let him share the connection.   I'm thinking:
 
 1) He runs Kapersky so presumably I could tweak this to allow him only
 access to IP addresses with outbound traffic outside my LAN's range.
 
 2) Setup some sort of rule on the router - not sure how to do this.
 
 3) IPCop is probably the most detailed solution -but again not sure.
 
 Is there an obvious solution out there.   I don't want to buy netnanny or
 something like that for him - far too obvious and condescending but I am
 really worried.   I don't want to software firewall the rest of the family's
 machines so tightly that they become restricted.
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I'm a little late to this thread, I've been fixing shelves and re-arranging my
office all weekend after some shelving decided to start pulling away from the
wall with all the computer books and software on them! That's beside the point
though.

On the basis that your ADSL connection is likely to have several ethernet ports
built in I would suggest the simplest thing to do would be to connect the
machine into the ADSL router directly and use a fairly standard cable router to
connect the rest of the machines behind that. If you connect the 'internet'
side to the ADSL router you effectively put anything connected directly to the
ADSL router into a sort of DMZ (sort of since it is still firewalled as normal,
so not really a proper DMZ) with a separate IP address range that is firewalled
off from the rest of the network by the cable router. Cable routers are pretty
reasonably priced, or if you are lucky you may pick one up off Freecycle /
Freegle (I nabbed a D-Link wireless N unit a while back which has improved my
coverage!).

Of course if you're not happy using an off the shelf firewall router you're
probably not just relying on the ADSL router and have a PC configured you can
add an extra NIC to and adjust the routing rules - as already suggested I
think.

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Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-09 Thread Vic

 If you connect the 'internet'
 side to the ADSL router you effectively put anything connected directly to
 the
 ADSL router into a sort of DMZ (sort of since it is still firewalled as
 normal,
 so not really a proper DMZ) with a separate IP address range that is
 firewalled
 off from the rest of the network by the cable router.

Errr - I'm not so sure about that.

What is behind the cable router has the usual NAT blackhole, but what is
hanging off the ADSL router is entirely unprotected from what is behind
the cable router.

So if the untrusted box is the one behind the cable router, all the
trusted boxes are still subject to attack from the problem box. And that
box has essentially unfettered Internet access, so it has no protection
from PEBKAC either.

You could, of course, have it the other way round - but that means
reconfiguring everything currently on the network, means that those boxes
will have to deal with double-NAT (which may or may not be a problem), and
still offers no firewall filtering for the hostile box.

So I don't think I agree with you...

Vic.


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[Hampshire] NIS Client Curiosities

2011-05-09 Thread Tim Brocklehurst
Ladies and gentlemen,

I have a strange problem... I have a machine which acts as a login node
for a downstream network. This machine repeats the NIS server capabilities
of the master (upstream) server. It should also provide correct NIS
usernames, groups and passwords.

Here's the problem: Users can log onto this box with the correct password,
but once logged on they cannot use the groups defined in nis. That is to
say, groups username returns users when it is meant to return a whole
list.

The downstream machines are fine, as are some other machines at the same
level in the topology (the other machine with this problem is showing the
exact same symptoms). The machine affected is running SLES11. Editing
users via Yast shows the full group lists.

In /etc/nsswitch I have tried group: compat and group: nis files which
has made no difference. I have the appropriate lines added to /etc/passwd
and /etc/group.

If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them. Thanks,

Tim B.


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Re: [Hampshire] NIS Client Curiosities

2011-05-09 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello Tim,

This sounds like a PAM issue. Have a look at how things are stacked, since it 
is very order-sensitive.

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Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen, I have a strange problem... I have a machine which acts 
as a login node for a downstream network. This machine repeats the NIS server 
capabilities of the master (upstream) server. It should also provide correct 
NIS usernames, groups and passwords. Here's the problem: Users can log onto 
this box with the correct password, but once logged on they cannot use the 
groups defined in nis. That is to say, groups username returns users when 
it is meant to return a whole list. The downstream machines are fine, as are 
some other machines at the same level in the topology (the other machine with 
this problem is showing the exact same symptoms). The machine affected is 
running SLES11. Editing users via Yast shows the full group lists. In 
/etc/nsswitch I have tried group: compat and group: nis files which has 
made no difference. I have the appropriate lines added to /etc/passwd and 
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Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-09 Thread Benjie Gillam
Eclipse used to do multiple IP addresses, I don't know if your ISP does. If
so, you could do this with 3 devices: ADSL router and 2x ethernet routers,
then you set up 2x standard NAT one on each IP address. That'll safely
separate the networks.

Benjie.

On 9 May 2011 16:43, Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote:


  If you connect the 'internet'
  side to the ADSL router you effectively put anything connected directly
 to
  the
  ADSL router into a sort of DMZ (sort of since it is still firewalled as
  normal,
  so not really a proper DMZ) with a separate IP address range that is
  firewalled
  off from the rest of the network by the cable router.

 Errr - I'm not so sure about that.

 What is behind the cable router has the usual NAT blackhole, but what is
 hanging off the ADSL router is entirely unprotected from what is behind
 the cable router.

 So if the untrusted box is the one behind the cable router, all the
 trusted boxes are still subject to attack from the problem box. And that
 box has essentially unfettered Internet access, so it has no protection
 from PEBKAC either.

 You could, of course, have it the other way round - but that means
 reconfiguring everything currently on the network, means that those boxes
 will have to deal with double-NAT (which may or may not be a problem), and
 still offers no firewall filtering for the hostile box.

 So I don't think I agree with you...

 Vic.


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Re: [Hampshire] Timestamps on photos

2011-05-09 Thread Leo

Thank you both for your responses.

I'll have to have another look around in digikam, as I didn't see 
functionality that would do this last time I looked.


Either that or I'll go for the scripting approach. Perhaps time to 
dabble in Python or Perl.


Leo


On 06/05/11 12:07, Joe Wrigley wrote:

On 13 April 2011 21:39, Andy Smitha...@strugglers.net  wrote:

Hi Leo,

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:21:29PM +0100, Leo wrote:

Having got back from holiday I've noticed that the time on my cameras was
not set to the correct timezone, or set the same on each camera. Does
anyone know of a way of either setting a timezone in a jpeg file (i.e. in
the exif), or bulk changing the time in the pictures by a given number of
hours?


f-spot and digikam both provide a means of doing this.

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Re: [Hampshire] Kmail

2011-05-09 Thread Leo
Hmmm, OK. I've never managed to get this to work, hence why I was asking 
about the subscriptions.


Leo

On 04/05/11 07:33, David Webb (NOC) wrote:

Does anyone use Kmail? If so can you explain to me what Servside
subscription and Local subscription are on an IMAP account? Despite
much googling I still haven't found a decent explanation. I know that
it's possible to cache email from an IMAP account locally, for reading
when disconnected and I presume one of the subscriptions represents
that. I just don't know which, and what the other is for.


I use kmail for an IMAP account.  Neither of these options are ticked and I
still have copies of all my IMAP mail stored on the local machine.

The only bug I have found that after moving messages from an IMAP folder to a
normal local mail folder, I have to reconnect to the IMAP machine before
closing kmail - otherwise I get sent a new set of the moved messages.

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Re: [Hampshire] Kmail

2011-05-09 Thread Leo
OK. I wasn't aware there were server subscriptions, but that certainly 
makes sense. I wonder what sort of subscription Thunderbird uses for 
IMAP then, as I haven't seen the option for server or local in it.


Yeah, I should test it really. Although I'm still amazed at how little 
documentation I could find on this.


Leo

On 02/05/11 22:32, Samuel Penn wrote:

Leoli...@fractal.me.uk  wrote:

Does anyone use Kmail? If so can you explain to me what Servside
subscription and Local subscription are on an IMAP account? Despite
much googling I still haven't found a decent explanation. I know that
it's possible to cache email from an IMAP account locally, for reading
when disconnected and I presume one of the subscriptions represents
that. I just don't know which, and what the other is for.


I think the difference is that 'server subscriptions' are managed by
the server, whilst 'local subscriptions' are managed by the client.
i.e., if you add a server subscription, then that subscription will
take effect for all clients that you use to connect to that server.

However, information about local subscriptions is only held on the
client.

I think, but that's me guessing based on what I've found.

It's not so much to do with caching, but with what folders you see
and get notified about when new mail arrives.

If you had thousands of folders, then you'd probably only want to
see a few - you wouldn't want to get notified any time something new
appeared in any folder on the server.

I think.

You could try this out if you had multiple mail clients, and seeing
if changing server subscriptions affects all clients but local
subscriptions only affects KMail.




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Re: [Hampshire] Timestamps on photos

2011-05-09 Thread Samuel Penn
Leo li...@fractal.me.uk wrote:
 Thank you both for your responses.
 
 I'll have to have another look around in digikam, as I didn't see
 functionality that would do this last time I looked.
 
 Either that or I'll go for the scripting approach. Perhaps time to
 dabble in Python or Perl.

http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/

One of the features it mentions is:

Fix date / time offsets in large batches of images


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Re: [Hampshire] Timestamps on photos

2011-05-09 Thread Leo

And it's in the ubuntu repositories - how did I manage to miss that!?

I'll give that a go then thank you before I resort to scripting.

Leo

On 09/05/11 19:53, Samuel Penn wrote:

Leoli...@fractal.me.uk  wrote:

Thank you both for your responses.

I'll have to have another look around in digikam, as I didn't see
functionality that would do this last time I looked.

Either that or I'll go for the scripting approach. Perhaps time to
dabble in Python or Perl.


http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/

One of the features it mentions is:

 Fix date / time offsets in large batches of images





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Re: [Hampshire] Networking for Dummies

2011-05-09 Thread Paul Tansom
** Vic l...@beer.org.uk [2011-05-09 16:44]:
  If you connect the 'internet'
  side to the ADSL router you effectively put anything connected directly to
  the
  ADSL router into a sort of DMZ (sort of since it is still firewalled as
  normal,
  so not really a proper DMZ) with a separate IP address range that is
  firewalled
  off from the rest of the network by the cable router.
 
 Errr - I'm not so sure about that.

Well it may not be the most technically elegant solution, but it would work
quite happily.

 What is behind the cable router has the usual NAT blackhole, but what is
 hanging off the ADSL router is entirely unprotected from what is behind
 the cable router.
 
 So if the untrusted box is the one behind the cable router, all the
 trusted boxes are still subject to attack from the problem box. And that
 box has essentially unfettered Internet access, so it has no protection
 from PEBKAC either.
 
 You could, of course, have it the other way round - but that means
 reconfiguring everything currently on the network, means that those boxes
 will have to deal with double-NAT (which may or may not be a problem), and
 still offers no firewall filtering for the hostile box.

The untrusted box is behind the ADSL router only, so has exactly the same
protection as it currently has [1]. You then treat this internal network as if
it was the internet and put another cable router in between the rest of the
clients and the ADSL router. It is double-NAT, but I've run with that for a few
years in the past when I didn't fully trust the ADSL router I had (and it
lacked some features I needed too) and used a Smoothwall / IPCop box behind it.
I have also worked with customers who have had double-NAT'd networks because
their ISP provides a private network to their ADSL line and then uses it's own
firewalls and proxies to give them access to the internet proper. Cable routers
have exactly the same firewall / routing features as their ADSL siblings, so
there is the same protection for this new network from the untrusted box as
there would be from any machine on the internet.

The main issues would be if the untrusted box needed access to one of the other
machines for a network share or printer (which I am assuming not), or if the
problem it had consumed masses of bandwidth (in which case you'd want to get it
sorted quickly anyway!).

As for the hassle of reconfiguring on the current network, I was assuming that
the network re-jig would require that anyway. For a small network it isn't that
much hassle to re-address machines, particularly if you are using DHCP (and
local DNS if needed), but if you use the existing private addresses and give
the new address structure to the untrusted box then there's little or nothing
to change. iirc they were on separate ADSL lines before, so could easily be
using different private addresses anyway.

 So I don't think I agree with you...

Well there are technically better solutions, but it will work. Actually one
solution that would work very nicely is a particular model of USR ADSL modem I
worked with once. That had two separate ethernet interfaces that could run two
totally separate networks off the same ADSL line, with as much or as little
interaction as youn configured. You could also create this setup using a custom
PC with twin NICs and a PCI ADSL card.

** end quote [Vic]

[1] I'm making the assumption here that the standard setup is simply to have
clients directly behind the ADSL router as used by the majority of default ISP
configurations these days.

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