Re: [Hampshire] Raspberry PI
Can't help technically, but loved the "It seemed obvious that I needed..." phrasing! I read it out loud to the rest of the room and it was well appreciated :-) best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Netley Abbey, Southampton 07970 844083 On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 10:38, Adam John Trickett via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > Bonjour ! > > I have finally found a use for a Raspberry Pi...! Since moving to France > we > have ended up with a house with stupid electrically heated oil filled > radiators. They are not properly controlled and quite inefficient, at best > you > can control them on a thermostat but there is no clock... > > It seems obvious that all I need is a thermometer, a mains relay a > Raspberry > Pi and some some software to create a time controlled thermostat that I > can SSH > into...! > > So I think I need > a box > a AC/DC transformer for the Pi > a mains relay > a digital thermometer > an override switch > something to mount the relay and transformer on > WiFi Pi or WiFi module for Pi depending on model > > I think this is technically easy to do, but the biggest constraint seems > to be > that the overall box needs to be small and "wife friendly"... > > -- > Adam Trickett > Saint-Malo, Bretagne, France > > Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced > -- anon > > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Document Management Systems
Open a Dropbox account, share out the old paper documents aong the members who have scanners, and share out the task of scanning and uploading to a simple document folder hierarchy organised by branch/topic/date? New material could be uploaded to dropbox too, and shared as links rather than attachments. Not really a 'Document Management System' as such, just a shared way of organising stuff. best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Netley Abbey, Southampton 07970 844083 On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 11:27, Roger Munford via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > Dear All, > > I am on the local residents association committee which generates a > quite a bit of documentation through its various activities and there is > a paper archive stretching back to the 30's. > > It has been suggested that we should digitise it. At the same time most > of the current documentation is held as emails and attachments so I > thought it would make sense to see if there was a document management > system which would suit our needs or standards to follow. > > I was wondering if anybody had similar experience and had any advice to > offer. > > Regards > > Roger Munford > > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Au revoir mes amis
Good luck to you both, Adam, and I'm sorry to hear that you've been pushed to this. I know a number of other folks in the same situation. May it be "interesting" for you to watch the developments from the other side! Au revoir indeed. best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Netley Abbey, Southampton 07970 844083 On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 03:58, A. J. Trickett via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > Dear LUG, > > It is with a heavy heart that at the end of September we sold our > house and left not only Hampshire but England for France. As some > of you may have known my wife is French and the recent political > changed have made things awkward, so elected to move and for the > past few days we have been unpacking boxes in our new house just > across the channel in Brittany. > > I'll remain on the list probably to the end of the year, but then > fall off. > > Bonne chance ! > > -- > Adam Trickett > Saint-Malo, Bretagne, FRANCE > > Deck of Cards: $1.29. > "101 Solitaire Variations" book: $6.59. > Cheap replacement for the one thing Windows is good at: priceless > -- Shane Lazarus > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Portsmouth and South East Hants LUG meeting Saturday, 18th August 2018
Thanks Paul. best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Netley Abbey, Southampton 07970 844083 On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 09:02, Paul Tansom via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > ** Victor Churchill via Hampshire > [2018-08-16 23:14]: > > G'day all, > > > > Is there any chance that someone could bring along a Debian Jessie > bootable > > installation disc? I managed to make my big Jessie laptop unbootable > when I > > attempted to revert a botched apt upgrade, so I fear a new install is > > needed and don't have any machine with a DVD writer at the moment. > > (Fortunately /home is on its own partition so shouldn't be affected, > > though I should try to get a proper backup done too) > > ** end quote [Victor Churchill via Hampshire] > > I'm not going to be there myself, but I've dropped a copy of disk on of > the latest Debian 8.11 (Jessie) in the box - I'm assuming the laptop has > a CD/DVD drive in it to install from. > > -- > Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | https://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 > 0001 > Vice Chair, FSB Portsmouth & SE Hampshire Branch | > http://www.fsb.org.uk/ > > = > Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Ralls > House, > Parklands Business Park, Forrest Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 > 6XP > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Portsmouth and South East Hants LUG meeting Saturday, 18th August 2018
G'day all, Is there any chance that someone could bring along a Debian Jessie bootable installation disc? I managed to make my big Jessie laptop unbootable when I attempted to revert a botched apt upgrade, so I fear a new install is needed and don't have any machine with a DVD writer at the moment. (Fortunately /home is on its own partition so shouldn't be affected, though I should try to get a proper backup done too) best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Netley Abbey, Southampton 07970 844083 On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 at 13:58, Paul Tansom via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > The next Portsmouth and South East Hampshire Linux Users Group meeting > will be this coming Saturday, 18th August 2018 from 1pm to 6pm in the > Broad Oak Social Club, Hilsea. Talks start at 3pm. > > http://www.portsmouth.lug.org.uk/venue.html > > This month is going ahead with a bring-a-box meet. I won't be there, but > Aidan is standing in, so everyone can enjoy the usual tech chat and > problem solving. Sandwiches will be back on too. Apologies to those who > attended last month, I hadn't realised that Lisi booked ahead on a > yearly basis rather than with an ongoing arrangement so they weren't > expecting us. We are booked up for another year now, so put a recurring > event in your calendar :-) > > Thank you to Aidan for standing in, and also the Jeffrey who also > offered, but isn't quite as close for collecting the box. > > Sandwiches, tech talk and excellent company guaranteed as usual, of course. > > Enjoy the meet on Saturday, and if anyone else is at Oggcamp I'll see > you there. > > Thanks, > Paul > > -- > Pau Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | https://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 > 0001 > Vice Chair, FSB Portsmouth & SE Hampshire Branch | > http://www.fsb.org.uk/ > > = > Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Ralls > House, > Parklands Business Park, Forrest Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 > 6XP > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Vic Watson
I, too, am very sorry to hear this news. It's very sad to hear of someone taking their own life. I have happy memories of Vic from LUG 'bring a box' meetings where he was often creative and knowledgeable in a self effacing, modest way. Thank you Stephen. best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Netley Abbey, Southampton 07970 844083 On 29 August 2017 at 15:58, Tony Whitmore via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > On 2017-08-25 14:40, Stephen Pelc via Hampshire wrote: > >> Vic Watson took his own life on 12 August. >> > > That's very sad news. I remember Vic attending a good number of LUG > meetings "back in the day" and he was always a very knowledgeable and > approachable chap. > > I appreciate you taking the time to let the list know, Stephen. > > Tony > > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- > -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Damian Brasher
Very shocked and sorry to hear this. My best wishes and condolences. On 1 June 2015 at 07:38, Keith Edmunds k...@midnighthax.com wrote: That's shocking. I met Damian a few times, and he did some work from time to time for the company I run. He was one of the good guys. Not much else to say, except to observe that this is a reminder to us all to make the most of whatever time we have. -- Want to get paid for working with Linux? http://goo.gl/HEGbyu -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Might ring a bell
That's why I have a den *and* an attic *and* a cellar :-) On 13 January 2015 at 21:21, Peter Salisbury peterthevi...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: How did they find out about me? On 12 January 2015 at 10:21, Roger Munford rogermunf...@parussoftware.co.uk wrote: http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2015/01/10/courage-award-for- man-who-threw-out-old-computer-cables/ Happy New Year Roger -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Small monitors
Stephen, I have a 15 inch Dell just sittting in a drawer not doing anything (still got the stand, not sure about the attaching screws), be happy to see it go to a good home. Needs a 12vDC power feed, I should be able to find one of those. I live in Bournemouth, work just off Junction 9 of M27 so any thoughts on how best get it to you? On 7 December 2014 at 11:29, Stephen Nelson-Smith sanel...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for a small(ish) monitor for my son's bedroom. We don't really have room for even a 19 monitor, but Novatech's 17 is pretty expensive, and the other visitable retailers only have very big ones. I don't mind ordering online, but I've rather left things to the last minutes, so extra points for 'take away right now'. BTW I'd gladly buy something second hand if anyone has something going free. S. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Small monitors
Hi Stephen yes I think it is that junction! I have had a look and failed to find the power adapter :( It's (of course) a Dell design that looks slightly different from a standard 12v socket on the monitor. Had a quick look on Google and (once you filter out the US outlets) this looks like the right kind of thing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Dell-1503FP-AC-ADAPTER-/281498003250?pt=UK_Computing_LaptopAccessories_PowerSupplieshash=item418a96a732 I am at Smoothwall's office at Richmond COurt, Botley Road : https://www.google.com/maps/place/Richmond+Ct,+Southampton,+Hampshire+SO31+1BA,+UK/@50.8750056,-1.2678882,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x48746fb18aedf95d:0xfb4fe42f68e76921 I'll bung the monitor in the car tomorrow and just give us a call when you feel like coming round - any day this week is ok. cheers Victor 07970 844083 On 7 December 2014 at 12:05, Stephen Nelson-Smith sanel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Victor Churchill victorchurch...@gmail.com wrote: I live in Bournemouth, work just off Junction 9 of M27 so any thoughts on how best get it to you? No problem me coming to you. Junction 9? Isn't that Whiteley / Fareham? I need to pop out to BQ anyway, so could go to the one on the M275, and then continue in your direction. S. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Diagram tool for network wiring?
On 30 November 2014 at 17:22, jay bennie j...@lincore.com wrote: wimp ;) Is that like gimp but with words instead of graphics? :-) ( /me thought asciiflow.com looked awesome ... like a GUI onto Emacs picture-mode :-) -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Email services
GMail has a 'Select Contacts' option on its Compose, which brings up your Contacts as a table with a checkbox on each row and a Select All button so presumably ( I have not *tried* it ) would let you send a mass mail to a lot of BCc:ed recipients. The GMail account will let you Import contacts as a CSV file or VCard from other mail apps. So you can probably set up a GMail acct to do what you want. It may not sound very businesslike though. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] UEFI booting woes
My son's just got a no-OS laptop from them , and similarly it had a minimal windows on it when delivered. They did say in one of their progress emails (*) that they were installing an OS to do their pre delivery tests. I can't help regarding what thet might do to the UEFI process, I'm afraid. (*) they are assiduous in keeping the customer infomed re. the progress of their order. On 8 November 2014 22:11, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 21:18:01 + Ian Park i.d.c.p...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hello Ian, go into the BIOS, and it booted into Windows (I'd specified that I wanted the machine with no OS, but I guess that PC Specialist installed Windows for the system test) From what I remember of my purchsaes from them, it's a bare bones install; Useful only for their testing purposes and little, if anything, more. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent The man in a tracksuit attacks me I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] FTTC/vDSL/NT5e faceplates
Pah! You young 'uns don't know when you've got it made. Why, we used to 'ave to tie the disk packs on to t'legs of t'carrier pigeons... On 7 November 2014 16:06, Lisi hants...@googlemail.com wrote: On Friday 07 November 2014 15:56:59 Bob Dunlop wrote: On Fri, Nov 07 at 03:41, Lisi wrote: ... My sympathy for you lot would be greater if you weren't talking about Infinity, fibre and cable. You mean you have them to go wrong?! ;-) Pah! We've got none of them. ADSL only here. You do get a better rate on the copper (3x BT rate) by using TalkTalk LLU but it's still not great. Now you *do* have my sympathy, even though you have LLU. TalkTalk?? Oh dear. :-( Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] We are hiring Linux Professionals
Hello Samantha, Please note, I am not a 'spokesman' for the user group. However: People do from time to time post messages to the list announcing openings. Genuine messages from employers are welcome, especially if they give some indication of the job: as many of (description, location, candidate requirements, expected remun eration) as you are able to provide. Obvious fishing posts from agencies are frowned upon but it's pretty clear that yours is not one of those. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Evolution Calendar
I have started using Google Calendar for such things. You can set up more than one alert for an upcoming event, anything from minutes to weeks in advance, and specify alert by popup, email or SMS (or any combination). And you can define recurring events - I have started adding birthdays there too. I've not tested the specific functionality of requesting a popup to be generated at a time the computer is off. On 2 June 2014 22:04, Leo li...@fractal.me.uk wrote: So after much browsing it appears this is a feature of Evolution. Which means I need to find a new tool to remind me of things. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something that I can use to remind me of things like car tax being due. Leo On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 20:25 +0100, Leo wrote: Does anybody use Evolution's calendar? If so do you know how to get Evolution to show a reminder even if the computer wasn't on at the time of the reminder? E.g. I have an all day appointment scheduled for 31st May, and a Custom reminder to pop up an alert 14 days before hand. I still haven't received any notification though. Thanks, Leo -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 28 May 2014 17:14, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: Excellent! In my line of work everyone should know at least vi, as it is the only editor on Unix and z/OS you can expect to find. I've never had time to learn emacs... I think David may have had a bit of a tongue in cheek when he wrote that about vim... I found vi wasn't challenging enough so started using emacs 15 years ago and have almost got started :) I did use old vi a lot, and do still have to use it sometimes if I can't install a proper editor tee hee -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 27 May 2014 12:54, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? If it really were, then all mail clients would make top-posting hard. The fact that most of the corporate mail clients don't speaks volumes for how the rest of the world thinks email should work. Personally I'd rather see secure email solved rather than top/bottom posting Ironically Anton's reply was easier to read and made a lot more sense because it was interleaved. I just tried to imagine what this thread itself would be like to read if it was all written in untrimmed GMail/Outlook/Apple top-posted form. I think it would be up to 340+ messages by now with Owain's original repeated 25 times. -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [off...@ukuug.org: [UKUUG-Announce] UKUUG O'Reilly - Damian Conway - Regular Expressions - Training Day!]
On 23 January 2014 13:15, Dr A. J. Trickett adam.trick...@iredale.netwrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 at 12:47:51PM +, Victor Churchill wrote: It will no doubt be hugely entertaining, hugely informative, and hugely expensive!! I believe that the first two statments are corect, I don't know about the third but I fear it is also correct... Prices are up now ... http://www.flossuk.org/Events/RegularExpressions2014 £405 (Individual Academic members inc. vat) £540 (Corporate members inc. vat) £660 (non-members inc. vat) If you have an employer with a training budget that's up to it it would be a great day. FWIW I went to a Perl training day run by FLOSS(UK) once and it was well worth becoming a member for a year just to get the discount for the event. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] February meeting
Darn. I'd like to make it but have a family visit that weekend so will be in Cambridge, sorry. Best wishes to all. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [off...@ukuug.org: [UKUUG-Announce] UKUUG O'Reilly - Damian Conway - Regular Expressions - Training Day!]
It will no doubt be hugely entertaining, hugely informative, and hugely expensive!! -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Portsmouth Linux Users Group on Saturday 21st December
Hi Lisi, I hope it goes well; I'm afraid I won't be able to make it - things are just a bit to manic the weekend before Xmas. All the best victor On 15 December 2013 17:41, Lisi hants...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, Jon! On Sunday 15 December 2013 17:26:50 Jon Wilks wrote: Would it be ok if I brought the books I have mentioned previously on this list? As mentioned before I have 3 carrier bags of techy books on various computer related subjects that need a good home. Please do. I'm sure that good homes can be found. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux Format has forked
I used to purchase LF fairly frequently (though I was not a regular subscriber); but I found myself going off it in recent years. I found that the choice of subject matter seemed decreasingly relevant to me, and the quality of the articles had become (in my opinion) very shabby I'm sorry to say - far too often the content was poorly written, inaccurate, badly laid out and showed an absence of proof-reading. I'd be interested in having a look when LV comes out and wish it well. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Auto Reply including the original email as attachment
Can't help with the specific question, I'm afraid , sorry. But watch out you don't end up with it talking to another of the same :) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Fwd: London Perl Workshop - 30th November
Registered long ago but won't be able to make it this time, sadly, due to a clash with a family event :( best regards to all who do get to go -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Next meeting
Sorry folks, I don't think I am likely to be able to make it due to family events (impending grandchild :) Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] May meeting
I managed to do something to put my back out the previous day, so I'm afraid I didn't manage to get there. I hope it went well. On 3 May 2013 21:30, Chris Malton chr...@cmalton.me.uk wrote: So it turns out I failed there and managed to do what Pete did in the first place - and mail the list inadvertently See you all tomorrow. Regards, Chris On 03/05/13 21:29, Chris Malton wrote: Done On 02/05/13 19:18, Pete wrote: Hi, I hope to be attending (external factors allowing.. yet to inform Her!) for reference will be bringing my old outdated laptop along, and the MAC addr is 00:1B:77:74:C3:58 I see from the site that this is needed for WiFi access (not end of the world if not available). Thanks in advance Pete -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/hampshirehttps://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --**--**-- -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Tmux - the terminal multiplexer
I've been a fairly long-term 'screen' user, not ever tried tmux. From the comments above, it's clear there are things tmux does that screen doesn't (and maybe the other way round too). I'd be interested to see the two compared ... could be an interesting demo topic for a LUG meeting. (Mischievously, I find my self wondering if it's another vi-versus-emacs type thing :-) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Tmux - the terminal multiplexer
I think this may come down to use cases and contexts. I have not made use of the split-screen feature in screen and not missed it really: this may be due to my desktop monitors at home being not huge (one 17, one 19) so if the space is split it's not /quite/ big enough; interestingly I have just been on a contract where everyone used 24 inch plus monitors and I was starting to feel that with the extra space it could be useful. But also I tend to do a lot of work in an emacs session where it's very quick and easy to split and unsplit the screen. So I just run a number of full-screen bash prompt 'windows' and an emacs one with several direds and files (and often a shell as well) in it in separate sub-panels. ( Oh, and btw, I configured my escape character to be ctrl-backslash :-) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Friday Fun Question
On 15 March 2013 13:44, Sean Gibbins s...@funkygibbins.me.uk wrote: On 15/03/13 13:10, Imran Chaudhry wrote: The author in question is a pretty tech-savvy and generally smart guy, hence the question, but I shouldn't have doubted my intuition on that one. At a guess, some newish Neal Stephenson novel? /me currently reading Cryptonomicon on and off. Correct on the author Imran! I am reading REAMDE, which is so far proving to be an excellent thriller, but with 200 pages left to go out of 1000 or so there is time for it to crash and burn, so I will reserve judgement on it until I have finished it. I loved Cryptonomicon, and also quite enjoyed the related Baroque Cycle, despite it being quite a slog in places. I'd concur with all the comments above. Loved Cryptonomicon, and also the Baroque Cycle, in differnet ways. I actually thought REAMDE, whilst being a good romp, was a bit flat in comparison; devent yarn but did not have the depth and the quasi-fractal excursions of the others. I thought Anathem was extraordinary too. I've only read that one once so far and it will definitely get read again. Stephenson has managed to do somethjing totally different from all his previous books each time he brings out a new title (apart from the Baroque trilogy, of course). And SNOW CRASH remains an absolute classic. Probaly my Desert Island author. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] March Meeting
Hi folks, sorry but I am afraid I won't be able to attend, due to a prior engagement. Hope to see you next time -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Promoting LUG meets via social networking
The LUG is different things to different people. It has always worked pretty well as a group for self-help and information interchange between members who are pretty committed and established Linux users. My observation would be that it has perhaps worked less well as a vehicle for introducing Linux to new or potentially new users and supporting them in the early stages of getting to know Linux. Typical Saturday meetings seem to be largely attended by hard-core long-term members and less so by new users, and I fear that there may be many new/potential users who come to one meeting and don't come again because they feel out of their depth. So some intentionally 'newbie-friendly' structures (specific events, or talks/threads at meetings) might be a great help in that area. As has been said already, it may be hard to set that upwithout causing the more established users to wander off due to lack of interest. (It also seems to me that there has a bit of a downward trend in the long term user attendance, maybe due to the way that Linux itself has changed over the years. That's a different discussion.) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Scamming call
I, somewhat to my shame, 'toyed' with one of those Hello, my name is Tom and I am calling to tell you that Microsoft have found a problem with your computer calls for a while, to the point where I departed from the script by not having an Internet Explorer to open, and then not having a Start button. Just before the (rather explosive) end of the call Tom asked me, rather plaintively, Why have you been wasting my time? Looking back I actually feel rather sorry for the guys actually doing the calls (at least in some of the operations). Though the perpetrators are contemptible, the droids are really more just pathetic. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Scamming call
On 25 January 2013 19:37, Keith Edmunds k...@midnighthax.com wrote: OK, I can agree naive rather than dishonest. However, that does not absolve them of responsibility for their actions. Yep, I'd probably add ignorant (in the non pejorative sense) and possibly desperate too. I would agree with the general tone here that it's the leaders not the footsoldiers who are to blame, but the latter who get the flames. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Christmas Lecture
Indeed, fascinating talk and it was good that there was enough time for Mike to go into a little detail on the background. A good venue for the meal afterwards, and good company for the evening. Thanks to Tim for introducing the Christmas Lecture innovation for the LUG, and to Mike Bond for giving the time to come and present the talk. . -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Christmas Lecture
Hi Tim and all, Whereabouts will the lecture be... Do we just turn up at the Zepler building and find our way in in the usual way? And do you know how many people are expected for the meal? cheers victor -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Christmas Lecture
On 19 November 2012 14:02, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 14/11/12 19:04, Tim Brocklehurst wrote: This is a reminder that the Christmas Lecture will be held on the 1st December at Southampton University. We will be next-door to our usual location (in Zepler/Mountbatten building). There will be signs in prominant positions. Are many LUG people planning to attend this? I'd like to, but if it's just me, Ed and Tim I'm inclined not to (no disrespect meant to Tim Ed) because I'd quite like to socialise with a few members of the LUG I haven't seen for a while. Hi Alan I wondered the same thing and then thought what the heck and contacted Ed off list saying count me in. Maybe if other folks have done the same they could announce to the list too, to provide encouragement to others? cheers Victor oh and by the way, I missed out on the stylistic its vs. it's discussion, but in the above snippet I just noticed: s/prominant/prominent/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Remote wipe of Linux systems
On 14 November 2012 09:30, Michael Pavling pavl...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 November 2012 09:25, Tony Whitmore t...@tonywhitmore.co.uk wrote: Are there any options for remote wiping Linux systems, in the case of them being lost or stolen? I'm sure that some funky trigger mechanism could be set up using dyndns and SSH, but I was looking for something that would scale to a larger number of devices. If you're using Linux, and are concerned for your local machine's data, it would probably be better to encrypt your partitions rather than rely on some tool to lock the stable door. Encrypted partitions don't suffer from the flaws of remote wipe software. - no accidental wipes - no need for the machine to be online to receive a signal - no risk of drives being slaved to other machines ... oh, but there is something so Evil Doctor about a remote wipe ... mwahahahaaa :) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Remote wipe of Linux systems
Since this seems to be getting a bit frivolous, I favour the startup option that says 'Enter password or this machine will self destruct in: and the big red flashing 04:59 ..04:58.. 04:57.. Sorry, Tony. I know you started this with serious intent., -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Don't suppose...
On 12 October 2012 19:06, Ally Biggs bluechr...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: I've got a dell laptop Intel i7 2.6 ghz quad core 8 gig DDR3 120 Gig solid state hard disk 1 gig Nvidia graphics ( runs battlefield 3 Windows 7 home prem 64 bit Original box Still under warranty with dell Looking for about £400 That looks like quite a nice deal :) From the sublime to the ridiculous ... I have an old Panasonic Toughbook CF-47. Bought it off eBay, used it for work for a while, gave it to my son when he started Uni; he has now got a netbook (and almost finished his PhD) and given it back :) 192 MB RAM (gee whiz! ) Pentium III 448 MHz There is some moan at boot up about the BIOS being pre 1999 so it can't do something :) Disk 7.2 GB Battery is shot, only runs from mains currently running Ubuntu 7.04 (!!) When I booted it up it said it had not done an fsck for 1209 days and proceeded to check the disk and booted up just fine. It may not be quite what you are after but if it's of any use to you or anyone else I'd be happy to see it go free to a good home. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] AGM supplementary
As was mentioned in Adam's other mail, I stood in case there weren't enough candidates - and it seems I got elected. Ah but Vic, that was for the Hostmaster position, where there was an other candidate and so you were marked as withdrawn. Whereas you were elected separately fo0r the GO post. Now we just have to figure out what the GOs should do... :) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
On 7 October 2012 09:43, Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote: (The sad thing is, i'm not quite sure how this happened!) A Saturday Night posting? Vodka. GMail has a plugin to help avoid those :) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] London Perl Workshop 2012
On 21 September 2012 16:40, Andy Smith a...@strugglers.net wrote: Hello, On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:04:27AM +0100, Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: May be of interest to some. Subject: London Perl Workshop 2012 I usually try to make it. Anyone else here going? Me too. I'm booked in. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Fwd: Linux on a G4 Mac Mini
I forwarded this query on to a mate who does Macs. With apologies to those who don't like top-posting and weird formatting, , this is his reply (mildly redacted).. This came up on the LUG list and I wondered if you might know anything about this, or is it the wrong kind of Mac? Hi Folks, I am trying to install Ubuntu Linux (or any other flavour of Linux - I'm fairly agnostic in this regard) on a G4 Mac Mini. Its a G4 so ie not Intel and hence I dont think it will work, its a Mac specific chip. IF he had a later version it would be possible to use bootcamp However, I am struggling to get past the first hurdle, which is to get anything other than Mac OS X booting when I start it up! Thats cos its a Mac ;) dont want scruffy old linux on there I have tried pressing c with the boot media in the drive, investigated defining the optical drive as the boot drive within OS X, but nothing works or presents itself as a possible solution. The only other thing I have come across are recommendations that I need the original install discs to boot from initially, but I imagine they are long gone as this machine was purchased second hand. He could take it to the Apple store they should be able to re install the original OS The alternative to all of this malarkey is to get the drivers working for the usb wifi card that my daughter bought (it's her machine, and she checked for compatibility before she bought it), but they appear to be fairly inadequate in that they don't appear to be accompanied by any software that might enable me to configure the card to connect to my network. That should not be that hard provided she runs it as a Mac and not Linux they are pretty good at talking to networks etc ITS UNIX after all ! and regardless of what the Linux people think its a very nice iteration even the older versions. Hope this might be of some help one way or another? Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] M$ trying to tell me something
Nice one Gordon - tempted to forward that to a few people :-) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!
I would have seconded Tim for Chair but Robin got in first. Bit late joining in the discussion, been away on holiday. Like Andy I feel that I have had a notional General Officer post without really doing very much in actuality. I'll happily offer to stand again if there aren't enough other takers. Gosh, we are a polite 'After you. No, after you...' lot, aren't we? I'll aim to make it for Saturday 3 October but I rarely manage the other non-Soton meets. best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Spinning rust
Getting OT , but prompted by the title ... (and by the fact I am just dismantling an old HDD :) ... now that disks are shiny presumably they aren't 'spinning rust' any more! I do recall the old swappable disk platters the size of posh restaurant dinner plates, which were that characteristic brown ferrous oxide (on an aluminium substrate IIRC) ... but these modern things the size of posh cafe saucers (to continue an analogy) are evidently something else (which does not appear strongly magnetic). I know, I could probably go and look up the answers. Just an observation really. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] rsync 101
On 2 June 2012 09:29, Jon Wilks jonnyx1...@gmail.com wrote: If ever you get temped to use --delete as an arg to rsync, always always always test it first with the -nv argument. No matter how confident you are with the outcome. oooh yess. Seconded. Except I remeber '--dry-run' (though I usually get the punctuation wrong) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN - IMPORTANT] Time shift - HantsLUG Meeting this Saturday
On 1 June 2012 13:31, Andy Random andy.ran...@gmail.com wrote: Personally 13:00 - 18:00 would suit me better than the morning start :) me too! ;-) o/ -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Free ancient workstations
On 11 May 2012 11:28, Bob Dunlop bob.dun...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote: We're clearing a room at work. These are only a few hours away from the skip so if you're interested and/or need more details please get back to me asap (off list). Sun Ultra 1 Sun SPARCstation 4 Sun SPARCstation 5 SunBlade 100 Digital Alpha Model P8570-B9 Selection of keyboards, mice and same vintage SCSI gear to match. Wow. Don't clear the room - fire them up, stick a 'Museum' sign on the door and go for the nostalgia marketplace. £3 on the door gets you a complimentary cup of tea... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Trackballs
On 10 May 2012 14:47, Michael Pavling pavl...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using these these for years - and have at each of my regular desks (3 at the moment) and another in my laptop bag) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Trackman-Wheel-Trackball-optical/dp/B5NIMJ/ Same here (well, not three of them) - very nice piece of kit once you get used to it. And it's kind of amusing watching if you ever have a co-worker come and use your machine temporarily ;-) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] One two, one two
There seems to be a bit of feedback :-) scrreeEEEeeekkk!! -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Looking for a Perl IDE
Bit confused from your title as to whether you are wanting an IDE or an interactive debugger. For a debugger that is a bit more acceddible than 'perl -d', have you looked at Devel::ptkdb ? ( https://metacpan.org/module/Devel::ptkdb ) It is a while since I used it but I seem to recall it did the particular thing you mention of letting you inspect variables while the code runs. I don't know what Padre offers in the area of run time support ( I believe it's more of an Eclipse-y IDE tool for coding rather than debugging) but it's getting quite good press these days. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd
Panto season ended a while ago, folks... oh no, it didn't! -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Help! I'm buying a laptop.
For GMail users I recommend installing Mail Goggles from the GMail labs. Then you have to answer a few hard sums if you want to post after a certain time of the evening. Except that as my wife has observed, geeky people seem to be able to still do mental arithmetic even after they have had enough glasses to have kippered their social skills... now to exercise my 13 times table ;-) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux Answers
I for one think it is quite appropriate for Mike to choose 'linux-answers' as the name for the group he is setting up considering the expected audiences. My wife who has put up with me for 35+ years, 15 or so of them with Linux in the frame, knows what 'Linux' means (she adamantly refulses to allow me to put it on her computers ;-) but considers 'Gnu' as a type of herbivore. p.s. I was going to visit the group and say something after doing that but I am waiting to be approved. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [Highly OT]: I'm looking for some skills...
Wish I could support your plan, Vic. Afraid my bits of paper come from places that don't (yet) have CEOs... -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Help, please! Databases and computer architecture.
On 27 November 2011 19:42, Chris. Aubrey-Smith cas...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 November 2011 18:14, Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote: Do you mean chip architecture and memory access, essentially creating a platform-optimised design for a new piece of database software; or the network topology for distributed databases? Tim B. I doubt that, at this stage of his studies, he would have the slightest idea how to respond to that. Chris. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Help, please! Databases and computer architecture.
It's not completely clear which way to parse books on database development and computer architecture - I'm not sure how likely you would be to find good books covering both. I was going to suggest a classic(*) but went to its web site and decided on reflection it's not really quite either of the above; it's more to do with algorithms and abstraction. (And its examples are in LISP...) Hsrd to think of where to go for 'database development' that's not specific to particular database impleentations. Is your grandson going to be using a partcular database for practical exercises? (*) (http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/) p.s. oops, sorry. Not sure what happened with that previous msg. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] S.D. Card stuck in read only
On 18 November 2011 16:19, Tony Whitmore t...@tonywhitmore.co.uk wrote: Look on the left hand side, you will see a lock slider: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/media/blogs/tracyandmatts_blog/sandisk-2gb-sd-card.jpg This may be in the wrong position, which will cause the medium to be read-only. Alternatively, the slider may have fallen out entirely and therefore be rendered effectively useless! I have had this happen with some SD cards. (Compact Flash FTW!) Wow. Just like on the old floppy disks! -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] test message
On 16 November 2011 08:01, Tim xendis...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/11/11 07:57, Alan Pope wrote: On 16 November 2011 07:54, Timxendis...@gmail.com wrote: Well it my post may have appeared on the list but I never received a copy You did, but gmail hides your own mail until someone else replies to it. Which makes sense to me but irritates many people. Al. Thanks for the reply Alan and yes it is irritating the hell out of me Time for another e-mail address change I think 'me too' and having two addresses is -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] test message
On 16 November 2011 09:22, Victor Churchill victorchurch...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 November 2011 08:01, Tim xendis...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/11/11 07:57, Alan Pope wrote: On 16 November 2011 07:54, Timxendis...@gmail.com wrote: Well it my post may have appeared on the list but I never received a copy You did, but gmail hides your own mail until someone else replies to it. Which makes sense to me but irritates many people. Thanks for the reply Alan and yes it is irritating the hell out of me Time for another e-mail address change I think 'me too' and having two addresses is oops. Somehow hit Tab key. Having two addresses is not necessarily a solution Tim. I recall having the same issue, and asking the same question on this list, and getting the same reply from Al ;-) I think that constitutes a FAQ. If I am particularly concerned to keep a conversation 'present' ( i.e. in my visible space) then I add a cc: to my regular gmail account when I post. Using two accounts does add all sorts of fun and games to the equation..! -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] December Meeting and AGM
To both Vic and Peter, I can say: I 'stood' (put up my hand) and was duly accepted as GO last year and I can assure you that you need not worry about it being a drain on your free time. Essentially AIUI you are making yourself available as and if required, for whatever might be necessary ( n.b. my Internet connection is ropey just now - can readwrite mail but not see new sites- and I have not checked the LUG constitution). I too was not able to make it to the last meeting. I'm afraid I am in London on 3rd and 4th Dec so will not be able to be at the next meeting. Hope to see you all at the next. best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Floppy Disk Drive - Short Notice
Absolutely none of my business but the request sparked a bit of curiosity in me as to what one might want a few floppy disk drive for. I wondered if it might be a project like this ;-) http://www.howtogeek.com/news/floppy-drives-play-the-imperial-march-video/6806/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Any LEGO robot fans?
As they say on the page, Why waste time on solving trivial puzzles when you can build a robot to waste time solving trivial puzzles for you instead? ;-) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] OT Please tell me how this is not a scam.
On 18 October 2011 10:04, James Courtier-Dutton james.dut...@gmail.com wrote: It is just like all these scams, like cold-fusion. Unless they publish how they do it, and scientists around the world are able to reproduce the result, it is most likely a scam. Pyramids definitely do work, so I give my +1 for that Sean. ;-) I am inclined to agree but surprised that there are some medium-sized names on their site - if I bought snake oil I would feel sheepish about letting the rest of the world know , unless of course I really believed it did keep the snakes away. And of course you get your second bottle half price if you let them use your logo ;-) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Data Destruction
Interestingly this came up in the last Dorset LUG meet on Tuesday, where it was said that the argument that data can still be retrieved even after it has been overwritten may have been valid at one time when tracks were physically wider but that with newer disks with higher track-per-inch density it no longer applies. Me, I like to gt out my mini screwdrivers and make coasters out of the platters - and the magnets are handy for holding cupboard doors shut or hanging knives in the kitchen ;-) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Hampshire Digest, Vol 60, Issue 5
Hi Mike, 1. No actual content. 2. The digest header does say When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Hampshire digest... Generally when I see a post with that title I don't bother reading it because I can predict with a good degree of certainty that it will be a top-post that quotes the entire digest without indicating what topic it is replying to. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] AGM
Hi all, I also am unlikely to be there as we have family visiting - unless I am able to escape briefly ;-) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Pointing device for arthritic hands
This is turning into HantsLug Old Crocks Division ;-) My wrists ache, so I try and stop every hour and use a folded towel as a wrist rest Internet Wars have been fought over wrist rests some folk seem to think they are Bad. I had one of those slidey gel ones built into a mouse-mat frame which worked quite nicely till it broke. I don't have real problems, just numbness or pins and needles in the finger tips from time to time but I'm trying to keep it that way. I get that too (increasingly frequently..) but had not attributed it to computer use - just put it down to circulation temperature. Got a Logitech Marble this year when I doubled up the systems on my desktop (and no I don't want a KVM switch ;-) mainly because of its small operational footprint; actually been quite happy with it though I would like to be able to adjust its sensitivity. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Pointing device for arthritic hands
On 27 September 2011 17:31, RobinT Catling fullcirclepodc...@googlemail.com wrote: then take regular breaks with relaxation exercises so as not to get fixed in one position. There's a web app for that... -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] ls -l
On 24 August 2011 11:29, Rob Malpass li...@getiton.myzen.co.uk wrote: Lovely - that's exactly what I need - many thanks. Incredible - I've been using Unix for nearly 20 years and I've never heard of that command. You are not alone there Rob. I thought exactly the same after I first encountered the watch command (except with me the number was a bit 20 ;-). That and, subsequently, screen. One of the great (and sometimes surprising and sometimes even annoying) things about this technology is it keeps on coming up with new tool and ways to do stuff. I have old embedded-reflex ways of doing certain things that are forever getting outdated I just wish I found un-learning old habits a bit easier ;-) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] error competition
On 19 August 2011 10:31, Michael Pavling pavl...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 August 2011 10:21, Edward Beckmann edward.beckm...@gmail.com wrote: Bonus marks for anyone brave / foolhardy enough to say I did ... as opposed to I knew someone who did ... I have flicked the off-switch (pesky old-style toggles) on an AS/400 crossing my legs while sitting at a terminal in the computer room... In the 'no-keystrokes involved' category I can add causing a custom array processor the size of a single wardrobe to shut down by standing too close to it and blocking tha airflow through its cooling fans. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] error competition
On 19 August 2011 10:32, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 19 August 2011 10:21, Edward Beckmann edward.beckm...@gmail.com wrote: what duff error gives the most spectacular failure? Someone in an Ubuntu support channel complained of data loss when he'd run rsync with --delete and had the source and destination the wrong way round. Goodbye data! Thank goodness for '--dry-run' ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] error competition
On 19 August 2011 10:32, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 19 August 2011 10:21, Edward Beckmann edward.beckm...@gmail.com wrote: what duff error gives the most spectacular failure? Someone in an Ubuntu support channel complained of data loss when he'd run rsync with --delete and had the source and destination the wrong way round. Goodbye data! Second job I had, Data General Eclipse, Assembler programs... ROLIO DP0 MT0 instead of the other way round. The old ones stick around... Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Home network cabling
Watch out when passing cables through the space between the endpoints, that they don't snag on sharp edges of holes/masonry. I managed to wreck a long ethernet cable through a sharp edge somewhere cutting through the insulation somewhere. Also beware of snapping the wee plastic catches on the plugs. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Meetings
On 15 May 2011 15:45, Hants LUG Chairman adam.trick...@iredale.net wrote: As some of you may know for some insane reason I appear to have allowed myself to been volunteered onto my local parish council Congratulations. I'm sure that will wake a few pepole up ;-) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Strangeness with tab completion
On 21 April 2011 11:29, Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote: When hitting Tab in a bash shell, the filename I expect is completed - as normal. *BUT* files get the trailing slash that you would expect on a directory. Do you mean 'plain' files get given the slash even if they are not directories? That sounds very wrong. Tab always has put the trailing slash onto a directory name, on my system. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] LinuxBierWanderung
Just saw that the LinuxBierWanderung this year is being held in the pretty mountain village of Tux in Austria ;-) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Bier_Wanderung [2] http://lbw2011.wordpress.com/the-hall/ -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] [OT] cheapo laptop
In case anyone is interested, there's a 24-hour (*) offer on eBay: Compaq Presario CQ56-111SA Laptop, Intel Pentium Dual 2.3GHz,3GB RAM,320GB HDD,15.6 HD,DVD-RW, Win 7 RRP £ 419.99 £ 279.99 I have no commercial connection with or interest in the vendor. (*) a 'daily deal' - not sure how 'daily' is defined. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Feb. 16 webcast with General Shelton, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Hope people don't mind me forwarding this. I just found it astonishing that Red Hat have/had a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs as their chairman, and that open source principles apply apparently in the U.S. military. I'm tempted to view it just for the sake of the strangeness. (come to think of it, I have heard people talk with relish of 'nuking a partition', especially if it has Windows on it... ;-) v -- Forwarded message -- From: opensource.com nore...@opensource.com Date: 14 February 2011 15:26 Subject: Last chance: Feb. 16 webcast with General Shelton, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff To: vchurch...@qonnectis.com Dear Victor, Don't forget to register for our webcast with General Hugh Shelton. This Wednesday, opensource.com will host General Hugh Shelton (US Army retired), former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and chairman of the Red Hat board of directors, in this month's Open Your World webcast. Shelton will reflect on his nearly four-decade military career and how his experiences in the armed services shared many of the same principles as the open source way. Through two terms as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the highest-ranking military officer in the United States and the principal military advisor to the president of the United States, General Shelton saw the broad application of open source principles: meritocracy, rapid prototyping, transparency, sharing, and authenticity. During the webcast, he'll give examples of the intersection of the open source way and the military, many of which are also chronicled in his recently published autobiography, Without Hesitation: The Odyssey of an American Warrior . WHEN: Wednesday, Feb. 16, 2-3 p.m. EST HOW: Register now ( http://app.engage.redhat.com/e/er.aspx?s=1795lid=979elq=90e0de36db6740268f5c02eca63ed870 ) Following his talk, you'll have an opportunity to ask questions. To ask questions in advance, you can use the registration form (link above) or email them to osdc-ad...@redhat.com . For those who can't join us, the recording will be available online for a year. Sincerely, opensource.com opensource.com aspires to publish all content under a Creative Commons license but may not be able to do so in all cases. You are responsible for ensuring that you have the necessary permission to reuse any work on opensource.com. Red Hat and the Shadowman logo are trademarks of Red Hat, Inc., registered in the United States and other countries. Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. opensource.com | RSS | twitter | facebook | identica contact us | unsubscribe | about opensource.com | redhat.com © 2011 opensource.com 1801 Varsity Drive Raleigh, NC 27606 USA -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] grep -50 foo /dev/sda1 runs out of memory
Just thought I should close this off. Turned out there was a file left over from the edit session, buried in my .mozilla/whatever directory. Must have missed it when doing the 'find' command due to all the /proc and /dev entries. Didn't get anyy result with Hugo's 'tr' approach, though I may have mistyped something. But Bob Dunlop's 'strings' technique came up trumps. So, many thanks! -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] New Monitor: X.org issue: not enough memory bandwidth
On 14 February 2011 19:14, Tony Whitmore t...@tonywhitmore.co.uk wrote: On 14/02/11 19:08, Victor Churchill wrote: Hi, just fitted a new 21.5 monitor (AOC2236SWA) to an Ubuntu 10.04LTS system, 1GB memory. I didn't do anything with X, just rebooted. The monitor is capable of 1920x1080 resolution. Did you try the Display applet to increase the resolution? Don't have one, and it's not in the Add to Panel dialog list. System-Prefs-Monitors tells me the monitor is an AOC Intl 22, and offers me 1280x1024 (5:4) 1440x900 (16:10) 1280x960 (4:3) 1280x720 (16:9) 1024x768 (4:3) and on down. The 1440x900 is a bit better but not perfect. Oddly, the 16:9 offering 1280x720 looks awful, even though the advertised res of 1920x1080 is that ratio. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] [OT] today
Way back I can remember my dad, (R.I.P.), used to write(*) dates in dd-rm-yy format, with Roman numerals for the month. Just noticed that in that notation, today is 11-ii-11 Why does that make me smile ;-) (*) With a fountain pen. Or on an Olivetti portable typewriter. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Lift to Nokia tomorrow?
I am aiming to go tomorrow - first time I have gone to one of the joint meetings. I'll be going up the M3 from Bournemouth, so if you can manage to get to somewhere idiot-proof to rendezvous that's not too hard to access from the motorway you're welcome. Sort out details off-list. Same offer applies to anyone else who'd like to go. Funny, I was just thinking of sending a mail to the list asking if anyone wanted a lift ;-) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] grep -50 foo /dev/sda1 runs out of memory
Hi, I have a firm recollection of reading war stories in the past about how the above incantation will find textual information on the disk that you have mislaid (the information, that is, not the disk). So I had exited an editor session attached to my GMail through the It's All Text! Firefox extension, which lets you fill in textareas in an external editor. Except in this case it didn't - I typed stuff in for about 20 minutes, saved, exited and the work was /not/ in my mail window. Bother, said Pooh. So I recalled this grep trick.Unfortunately it chugs for a while then exits with an error: victor@pan2:~$ sudo grep -100 Vishal /dev/sda1 grep: /dev/sda1: Cannot allocate memory I /thought/ grep would work through a file of any size... is ther anything I can do about this? thanks, victor -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux meeting 12 Feb 2011 @ Nokia Southwood.
On 10 February 2011 00:12, Victor Churchill victorchurch...@gmail.com wrote: Victor Churchill OY52TZV Susy Churchill x x D'oh. Just seen that this went to the List not to Robert. Apologies. Now the entire world knows my car reg and how my OH spells her name. -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Linux meeting 12 Feb 2011 @ Nokia Southwood.
Victor ChurchillOY52TZV Susy Churchill 07970 844079 -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] [OT] Writing an Audio CD 64 minutes : possible?
Hi, I have got a 90 minute drama from the BBC via get_iplayer. It downloaded as a .flv file which I have converted to .mp3 using ffmpeg -i Drama_on_3_-_Living_with_Princes_b00xn9y1_default.flv -vn -acodec libmp3lame -ac 2 -ab 128k Drama_on_3_-_Living_with_Princes_b00xn9y1_default.mp3 This gives me a 87MB .mp3 file which I can play on computers (and I guess on a MP3 player were I to have one.) I can burn this to a data CD as an MP3 /file/ and it will play on one of my domestic radio/CD players, which knows how to read data CDs containing MP3 files. However, my car CD player does not have that ability. When I use Brasero to try to create an Audio CD it tells me that the CD does not have enough room for the 1h30min programme. This also happens if I generate a smaller MP3 file by re-running the ffmpeg command with 64kbps encoding using -ab 64k. Although the .mp3 file is half the size, Braser still says it represents 90 minutes and the CD ain't big enough. Short of using Audacity to split the file into two sections, is there a way I can make an older-player-friendly audio CD of this programme? Or am I trying to get a quart into a pint pot ? -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Connection refused even though Sendmail is running
Hi, I have a pretty clean (*) install of Centos on a server in my home network at the mo. It is destined to go out to NewNet eventually but that's another story. It needs to be able to receive and process emails - a user account on this machine has some procmail scripts that will handle this. Sendmail is in the init.d startup sequence, and is running and listening on port 25. [root@phoenix qg]# /usr/sbin/lsof -i :25 COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME sendmail 3492 root4u IPv4 11969 TCP phoenix:smtp (LISTEN) [root@phoenix qg]# And responds locally: [qg@phoenix 10:52 ~]$ telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1). Escape character is '^]'. 220 localhost.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.13.8/8.13.8; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:53:10 GMT ehlo localhost 250-localhost.localdomain Hello phoenix [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you But if I try to chat to port 25 from a neighbouring machine I get refused: victor@ss07:~$ telnet phoenix 25 Trying 192.168.11.199... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused I haven't done anything explicit to do with firewalling on the phoenix server. I can see other services the server is running such as ssh and http from the neighbouring machines. Just not the SMTP port. Any comments on what I should be looking for? (*) - well, I did have to put Oracle on it... thanks, victor -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Connection refused even though Sendmail is running
Thank you everyone! sendmail.mc was indeed restricted to 127.0.0.1. I have changed the DAEMON_OPTIONS line and restarted sendmail. I can now connect to the service with 'telnet phoenix 25' from my desktop. However... (there is always a 'however', isn't there )-; Mails to this server from outside get bounced with 'relaying denied'. This happens sending both from GMail and from a remote server ssh session on a different system. The latter gives more info: : - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - q...@victor.shacknet.nu (reason: 550 5.7.1 q...@victor.shacknet.nu... Relaying denied) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to victor.shacknet.nu.: DATA 550 5.7.1 q...@victor.shacknet.nu... Relaying denied 550 5.1.1 q...@victor.shacknet.nu... User unknown 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient) ( victor.shacknet.nu is a free dynamic DNS mapping from dyndns.com which currently points to 81.109.243.248. Sending mail direct to qg@that IP has the same result.) I will Google for 'relaying denied' before crying for help! thanks victor -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [sort-of-OT] Advice for (geeky) broadband provider
Can't resist this... http://xkcd.com/806/ ;-) -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Running a script that needs to do a rooty thing
On 29 November 2010 04:59, Stephen Nelson-Smith sanel...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Victor Churchill victorchurch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have been asked to make a Perl script that does some stuff with Apache's config (adds a virtual host) and then does an apache2ctl graceful to tell Apache to re-read its config files. Sounds like the sort of thing that would be well handled with Puppet / Chef / CFengine. Appreciate that may be over kill, but it's something to consider. Doing this with a Perl script is a bit of a smell to me. But you an do anything in Perl ;-) It is interesting that this comment has come up a couple of times. The boss has this idea in mind that he intends to provide this capability to the end user/customer so that they can do some of their own admin; so the requirement came down de facto 'we need a perl script to do this'. I had not really thought of it as a CMS related kind of task, but am not at all familiar with cfengine et al so should probably take a look. I don't think much more is envisaged but these things often come back and bite you. By the way, the sudoers approach did work. I got some misleading errors complaining about /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 28 which eventually I saw were due to a missing newline at the end of the file ;.-) S. -- Stephen Nelson-Smith Technical Director Atalanta Systems Ltd www.atalanta-systems.com -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- best regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Running a script that needs to do a rooty thing
Thanks to all. Looks like a restricted sudo will be the way to go. I will give that a try, I'm pretty confident it should do what's required. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Stuck F1 key?
My laptop seems to have got its F1 key permanently stuck. Or rather, it seems to be continuously generating a stream of key press events that look to the system as if F1 is being repeatedly hit. This seems to be a bit sporadic, not happening all the time but is pretty disabling. I get these characters everywhere from login onwards. If I can get a terminal up and say 'od -b -' I see ^[OP^[OP^[OP ... which is the bytes 033 117 120 033 117 120 xev shows the following pair of events repeating very quickly (I am copy typing only the 'relevant' bits): KeyPress event, ... keycode 67 (keysym 0xffbe, F1) ... KeyRelease event, ... keycode 67 (keysym 0xffbe, F1) ... Of course everything on the desktop including the desktop itself thinks F1 means Help!, so I am deluged with unwanted help windows, dialogues, tabs. I did not manage to find a KeyPressRepeat option in the BIOS to turn off. Also, the key is still being generated at BIOS time - the BIOS itself thinks I keep asking for help too! ( addendum: In fact there seem to be two different events that are being seen, either one or the other, not both at once. The second one shows as a series of 'A' characters appearing unbidden at the shell prompt. 'od -b' shows that what us being received is actually a series of '^[[[A' character sequences: 033 133 133 101 033 133 133 101... ) Do I have to assume my keyboard is broken, and can I do anything about it? I'm a bit reluctant to procure and then try to fit a new keyboard to the laptop. -- regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] after a cheap screen and power cable
On 4 October 2010 13:49, Graeme Hilton graeme.hil...@fishter.org.uk wrote: I'm going to claim a pedant point here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_connector#C15_and_C16_connectors PC's normally use C13/C14 combination leads/inlets. Kettles would use a C15/C16 which is rated to use at 120°C vs the 70°C of other IEC leads/inlets and has a mating feature to preclude the use of lower temperature rated leads with the inlet (but not vice-versa). Ohhh, touché! -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] after a cheap screen and power cable
I have a ridiculous number of 'kettle lead' power leads which I will gladly bring to the next So'ton meet. There's generally a help-yourself table there. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] October meeting
On 2 October 2010 08:59, Tony Whitmore t...@tonywhitmore.co.uk wrote: Alternatively, as there haven't been any nominations/seconds for any of the posts, it might be best if the AGM was non-chorate so a re-run can be held with more notice in a few months time. I think we probably did have a quorum: there were certainly 8+ voting members there but I don't know if we reached 10% of the voting membership which is what the constitution requires if that number is 8. There's about 100 names on the Wiki MembersInformation page but I don't think that's the same metric so I am not aware of how many 'voting members' there are... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] MAC addresses for AGM and next meeting
On 1 October 2010 15:35, Ashwin ashfix...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: everybody who attends the meet tomorrow may not have internet access Does that mean everybody may not or not everybody may ? ;-) If I am talking about the Cloud it would be good to have a wireless connection - I don't know if the registrations from previous events may still be in your router? -- regards, Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] MAC addresses for AGM and next meeting
On 1 October 2010 16:48, Ashwin ashfix...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 01/10/2010 16:18, Victor Churchill wrote: On 1 October 2010 15:35, Ashwinashfix...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: everybody who attends the meet tomorrow may not have internet access Does that mean everybody may not or not everybody may ? ;-) As if I did not have enough to think about already :) Sorry for putting you on the spot - my gratuitous pedantry coming out again! Such questions are usually more interesting than work though, so I did think about it. I think everybody may not is still valid because it is an all or nothing situation. Either everybody will have access tomorrow or no one will. Depends completely on the almighty (the sysadmin, that is). If all else fails I have a few here's one I prepared earlier' pics ;-) If I am talking about the Cloud it would be good to have a wireless connection - I don't know if the registrations from previous events may still be in your router? I don't think the router will remember the registrations because last time the sysadmin told me that it would get removed on the monday following the meeting, so I am assuming that is what happened. As I said earlier, I can register 3 MACs so I am sure we can arrange one for your talk on the cloud. Thanks; your efforts really are appreciated. cheers victor -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
