Re: [Hardhats-members] Blockbuster VistA Video Now Available
Did this die? I haven't seen it, where's the torrent? You can make a 256KB pieces for however many parts there are. The process to create a tracker is simple and I'll donate upload slots once I can download it myself (as is the goal for BitTorrent). Anybody else? David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:46 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Blockbuster VistA Video Now Available Maybe we can have a three or more part torrent. Between Alberto, another person who has written to me and offered, and my server as a server and client, and any others who want to join, that should work pretty well. Raymond said he would set it up early next month barring any complications. Alternatively, if folks just plain want to post the video, more power to you. Ping me off the list and I will get it to you. Meanwhile, I can easily handle the number of requests I have received for videos so far since I am geared up to produce them. I would be particularly happy to continue with that especially if there are some donations, small or large, making their way to Dave Whitten. That address is: Dave Whitten, Treasurer WorldVistA P.O. Box 131912 Houston, TX 77219 On Monday 17 July 2006 13:41, Alberto Odor wrote: I can provide a place for it in my server if you want. Alberto -Original Message- From: Nancy Anthracite [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:57 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Blockbuster VistA Video Now Available We are looking at that possibility, but this thing is 500+ megs zipped up. On Sunday 16 July 2006 10:34, Theodore Ruegsegger wrote: On 7/15/06, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can now send folks the blockbuster VistA DVD because now has the option > to use captions. ... > If you send me your address, I will send you a copy. Rather than having you burn zillions and send them physically through the mail, is it possible to put the ISO somewhere where we can download it? > I hope you will consider > sending a small donation to WorldVistA in exchange for the postage and > handling. Does it have to be small? ;-) Ted - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDE V ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS auto log in
It tracks it via IP which is why it has to be disabled when using Terminal Services since all users are logged into a multi-session instance from the same IP (ie terminal/citrix server) So if you login via RPC from IP 192.168.0.2, it'll track that so that any future logins just "let you in". I don't think it was meant to be secure by any stretch of the imagination. That process with be susceptible to many methods of intrusion including man-in-the-middle and impersonation. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Gray Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:52 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS auto log in I found the documentation on how to control from a system point of view using the fields in file 200 and the Kernel Parameters file. I did not find anything about how to control this from a programmer perspective. Is there documentation on that issue? Jim Gray - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS auto log in > It uses the auto logon feature of the RPC broker, the broker handles > all of the particulars in regard to who is who. > > - Original Message - > From: James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2006 2:11 pm > Subject: [Hardhats-members] CPRS auto log in > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> How does the auto-login feature of CPRS work. How does it know >> who you are and to assign the right DUZ? >> >> Jim Gray > > > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Why you should disable the Autorun in yourWindows PC
Let’s be honest here. The issue is the human, not the computer or the software. It’s called the dancing bunny problem. No matter how many clicks, popups, checkboxes, or warnings you give the user – they will click them all to see the dancing bunny. Sure, turn off AutoRun – I do even for CDROM drives. But it could be a linux system with a person on the console. If you placed a CD on the table with 3 items: shell, make, ./appname – and they’ll do it. I see software install instructions that say “Please disable firewall and anti-virus software before running this install to ensure it installs properly”. I mean COME ON! As long as it doesn’t say “touch fire”, everyone’s learned that lesson. /David. David Sommers | Dialog Medical From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chuck5566 Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:53 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Why you should disable the Autorun in yourWindows PC "I would have loved to be on the inside of the building watching as people started plugging the USB drives in, scouring through the planted image files, then unknowingly running our piece of software." I suspect it wasn't autorun, this time, based on the last part of that sentence from the article's author. If autorun was used, then the malware probably, *probably*, would started immediately and there wouldn't be a need for the victims to "then unknowingly". Also, the following is from Microsoft's Web site. I wonder how many people are going to go through the trouble. Chuck From: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/usbfaq.mspx The Autorun capabilities are restricted to CD-ROM drives and fixed disk drives. If you need to make a USB storage device perform Autorun, the device must not be marked as a removable media device and the device must contain an Autorun.inf file and a startup application. The removable media device setting is a flag contained within the SCSI Inquiry Data response to the SCSI Inquiry command. Bit 7 of byte 1 (indexed from 0) is the Removable Media Bit (RMB). A RMB set to zero indicates that the device is not a removable media device. A RMB of one indicates that the device is a removable media device. Drivers obtain this information by using the StorageDeviceProperty request. On Jun 9, 2006, at 4:48 PM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=95556 Autorun has to be how the Trojan got in. -- Bhaskar ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Personal information on 26.5 million veterans stolen
1. The person responsible was not authorized to take this information home and should be held responsible for his/her acts. He/she should be made an example so that anyone else who dares think to take information home with them can remember the guy from the VA that did hard time or lost his house, etc. What if this was the FBI, IRS, or someone with *our* information? Not all of us are Vets so put yourself in a government agency that has your SSN on file, and then lose it. 2. How could someone have enough rights to access the records (and copy) all these accounts without oversight, keys, paperwork, etc? For instance - you can't just take a copy of our customer database with you on the way out. Why could this person take a copy home? 3. The ability to read a patient's SSN should require heavy Crypto - that is a fault of the underlying platform. All our developers must use XP's on-disk encryption for folders containing source files that's only accessible if your local user's private key matches the domain. (Which prevents slaving the HD to another system to read files). I'm not saying any of this is VistA - it could be a list of all the patients in the system on an Excel spreadsheet or a text file - who knows. The key is the processes and systems surrounding the information to protect from both the inside and outside. I'm still surprised that this information was available to any single person and that person can just make a copy. How many copies by how many people are out there? How many incidences weren't reported? On my network, just because you're in IT doesn't mean you have access to financials, HR, or anyone else's email. To have access to someone else's email, even for technical support, requires their approval. /David. On Monday 22 May 2006 19:51, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Two things come to mind. 1. This kind of thing seems inevitable as we progressively are able to compact more and more information into a personal laptop. I almost think that some sort of legal protection is going to have to be enacted around concentrated data. It's like nuclear power. 2. The burgler probably didn't know what he had (and wouldn't know M to get it out) if the news hadn't been released. Kevin On 5/22/06, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the lead story on CNN > > http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/22/vets.data/index.html > > Personal information on 26.5 million veterans was stolen from the home > of a data analyst in what appears to have been a random burglary, > Veterans Affairs Secretary Jim Nicholson said Monday. The computer > records include names, Social Security numbers and dates of birth, > Nicholson said. It is thought the computer records were not actually > targeted in the burglary. > > Kevin --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid7521&bid$8729&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Having problems?
I'm not subscribed to the other VistA newsgroups (VOE), are they discussing this as well? Is this moving everyone and everything? David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:24 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Having problems? --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I haven't heard much said against the move. Are we ready to move or > do we need further discussion? > > Kevin > > As Greg Kreis said in an earlier post, the hardhats volunteers have been discussing this issue. More soon. === Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Metaphors be with you. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CRM with VistA integration?
Actually it makes a ton of sense when you think about it from a hospital as a business of customers. We're currently rolling out Microsoft Dynamics (CRM) 3.0 at our offices. We've migrated (imported) information from at least a dozen different data sources from our large Helpdesk system (Cerberus open source) to spreadsheets, Access databases, and individual Outlook contact lists. Eventually we'll integrate with other data sources and have bi-directional information being shared among multiple data sources. IF I was a hospital or practice running VistA, that EMR would exist as another data source. That data source would have information related to scheduling, historic visits, labs results, etc. In our CRM package (like many others) - you can run campaigns via email or snail mail, maintain customer requests/questions, manage literature, etc. For instance, you could create a marketing list of all VistA patients that haven't had their checkups in 12 months (maybe for a mammogram). In CRM, you could mail out electronically or start printing out "mail merge" like templates for marketing - to get customers into your practice. If a customer called in and asked for information regarding a practice's ability to do X (maybe you specialize in Brain Tumors), would you add that to their record? Probably not - they've never been there, they're not scheduling, they're not giving you an ID - they simply called for a brochure or a web site link. You'd enter that into a CRM-like system BUT should they come in for a visit, maybe you'd want to link the two. There are many possibilities. Here's MS' generic sales pitch - but the idea is you should use something to manage your healthcase business - healthcare is just a vertical, it's still a business. http://www.microsoft.com/industry/healthcare/products/mbs.mspx Subject trees are specific MS-CRM but under this link, you can see that they give you an idea of what you might use in the health industry but, of course, it's all customizable. http://www.microsoft.com/dynamics/crm/using/configure/subjecttrees.mspx As to your question, it's possible but I doubt anyone's done it. I've reviewed all these (and then some) for our business and the choice is a specific to the company, users, and customers. Just stay away from NetCRM :) As for integrating the two, none of these systems talk RPC or MUMPS - so you'll want to integrate using either a database layer like ODBC (Cache) or consume XML via Web Services. The basic idea is to have CRM call into that system to grab or push information, such as scheduling or past visits. Of course anyone's usage of a CRM will vary based on existing systems, workflows, and processes already in-place. Good luck, David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Safir Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 5:26 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CRM with VistA integration? On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 12:01, Ignacio Valdes wrote: > Hello all, Has anyone done Customer Relationship Management (CRM) > software integration with VistA such as integration with something > like Sugar-CRM or Salesforce? > Why would you want this? VistA is a healthcare information system. Ruben --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Moving the hardhats list to Google groups
How are the ads? We moved away from Topica because they were getting BAD. At least SF keeps them to the bottom and the site makes it clear where the ads are (banner at top and section at the bottom): http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=hardhats-members Google obviously makes money and they do it with AdSense. I see where the ads are on their web site - and thanks to a widescreen monitor, I can still clearly read the contents of the page without ads taking over the screen. Has anyone subscribed to their mail? Does it require you to use GMail? If not, does your mail receive Ads and is it fairly isolated? /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:16 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Moving the hardhats list to Google groups I vote for moving. Kevin On 5/17/06, K.S. Bhaskar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While Mailman on Source Forge now appears to be in a state of > convalescence, I wonder if the time has come to move the hardhats > mailing list to a host better able to accommodate it, in this case the > vista group at Google groups. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: BAPI32.dll for RPC Broker (Michael Zacharias)
I created an ActiveX wrapper around the Delphi version for use in our code. It's native ActiveX COM for our VB/VC environments but we're forced to use Interop in .NET. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:38 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: BAPI32.dll for RPC Broker (Michael Zacharias) yes - Original Message - From: Michael Zacharias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:27 pm Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: BAPI32.dll for RPC Broker (Michael Zacharias) To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > From what I could assertain, the source code looks like delphi > code. I have no > experience with delphi, but is it possible to create dll's with it? > > > > Michael Zacharias > > > --- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Did you happen to check if the code is in here: > > > > /vista/Software/Packages/RPC Broker - XWB/PROGRAMS > > > > They are exe files but they may be self extracting and contain > the programs > > themselves. > > > > On Thursday 30 March 2006 08:51, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > > On 3/30/06, Imran Shafiq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Michael, > > > > > > When you install the BDK, BAPI32.dll (wrapper) along > > > with the delphi library (wrapped by the dll) is placed > > > into the %windir%\system folder e.g. > > > C:\Windows\System\ > > > > > > I tried using the LoadLibrary(...) Windows API in > > > VisualC++.Net (Visual Studio.Net 2005) to load the > > > BAPI32.dll a week ago.. but i had to give up on it. > > > My guess is the dll was generated probably in > > > vicualc++ 98 (6.0) or maybe visualc++ 5.0 .. things > > > have changed since then.. maybe something is fishy in > > > the DLLMain(..) entry point.. not consistent with the > > > dlls generated nowadays by the modern compilers.. as > > > vc++ 2005. If someone has the source code to > > > BAPI32.dll i am sure it can be recompiled with some > > > changes in the source code to mak eit work. Or if > > > anyone has already made it work plz inform. > > > > It seems that Borland uses a different calling pattern for its > > functions than VisualC++ does. It seems like one of those format > > wars. Borland says that they are fully ANSI compliant, so I suspect > > that Microsoft has "enhanced" things a bit leading to the > > incompatibility. I have had trouble with this before. > > > > But you are right, a recompile would be good. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking > scripting language > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory!> http://sel.as- > us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642> > ___> Hardhats-members > mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > -- > > Nancy Anthracite > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking > scripting language > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory!> http://sel.as- > us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642> > ___> Hardhats-members > mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > languagethat extends applications into web and mobile media. > Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory!http://sel.as- > us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&
RE: [Hardhats-members] RPC Calls to VistA from .NET Application ( C# )
I would agree that using ODBC is probably a better route. Web Services in M is possible as well, I think a project was mentioned on here that facilitated that from within M itself. I also believe CPRS-R uses web services (in Java) and those can be consumed by .NET when using WSE 2.0/3.0. Another option is the wrapping method everyone keeps mentioning. Dialog Medical took the Delphi library and wrapped it in an ActiveX Control. Then anything that can use COM (.NET included) can talk RPC. It’s easy enough to create an ActiveX Control in Delphi using the Broker SDK. /david. David Sommers | Dialog Medical From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walton, Edward NMN(WSH) Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:47 PM To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] RPC Calls to VistA from .NET Application ( C# ) I do not know what you are trying to do, but you may what to look at the VistA mappings for Cache. With the mappings it should not be very difficult to read any patient data from a .NET Application. We have used Access to make some reports using the mapping and a ODBC connection. Ed From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gokul Ram Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:09 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] RPC Calls to VistA from .NET Application (C# ) Hi, Very much new to this group and VistA software. Trying to fetch patient data from VistA using the RPC Calls. I found the list of RPC's by logging on to the Cache Terminal. I'm trying to find information on " How to make RPC calls to VistA from .NET Application to fetch the patient data ? " Can you pls let me know where I can find more information on that ? I'm sorry if I've asked a more generic question or you can point me to where I should start in this regard ? Thanks much in advance. -GR
RE: [Hardhats-members] Java-client access to VistA RPC (Remote Procedure Calls)
It does. And you can see that their class structure has a RPC Broker wrapper with equivalent functionality. Dialog Medical has been running an ActiveX control for RPC Broker functionality for some time now. I've seen a .NET Version using remoting and the FixIt model isn't obfuscated. It's not terribly complicated. If you don't want to make native calls, you can always wrap and route. Place web service like functionality on the M/Cache Server and then make calls into it. At some point, you'll want to make calls into the data layer or business functionality without having to only re-use existing calls. Then you'll benefit from having flexible plumbing. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 5:13 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Java-client access to VistA RPC (Remote Procedure Calls) Doesn't VistALink support Java (not sure if it uses RPC architecture). There's also the FixIt stuff at http://www.uku.fi/tike/fixit/english.html At 03:18 PM 3/6/2006, you wrote: >I've been asked to look into the possibility of using a Java client to >access VistA via the RPC Broker. Is this perhaps something simple that has >already been done (I hope, I hope, I hope) or will it require inventing (as >opposed to reinventing) the wheel? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] HIMSS trip report (long)
I know I missed something in the 7000 area, sorry I didn't get to meet ya. This was actually the smallest HIMSS in a number of years. Many of the larger companies had booth size restrictions and we won't see those restrictions next year in New Orleans. Expect to see more booths with a second story and McKesson to come with a city block. HIMSS will no longer be in San Diego due to the size of the show. Nothing cool to write about besides the chance to reconnect with a few IRM guys at the VistA booth and DoD "area". Next up - VEHU (Camp CPRS)... /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhaskar, KS Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:56 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net; openhealth@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Hardhats-members] HIMSS trip report (long) With approximately 17,000 individual members and 275 corporate members, HIMSS (Healthcare Information and Management Systems Society - http://himss.org) is the largest trade association for healthcare informatics. The HIMSS 2006 Annual Conference and Exhibition in San Diego attracted perhaps 30,000 attendees and 800 exhibitors (my estimates). The San Diego convention center was bursting at the seems, with some organizations - primarily educational institutions - using what appeared to be hastily cobbled together booths in the corridors. This was my first visit to a HIMSS trade show, and I have not seen anything of this size since my now long past career in the electronics industry. HIMSS definitely strained the San Diego infrastructure. Taxis and hotel rooms were hard to find, as were seats on flights. One of my taxi drivers said he was getting far more trips to the convention center than usual. The booths of the major exhibitors - Siemens, Eclipsys, Epic, GE, etc. - were huge, most with multiple presentation and conference areas. Many of them exceeded the square footage of the average American single family home, and at least one booth (I think Eclipsys) was a 2 storey structure with conference rooms in the upper level. This was clearly the place to be for anyone who was anyone in health informatics management, with senior executives from vendors, users, and Government alike, all rubbing elbows on the show floors and in conference rooms. Exhibitors could classify themselves (they were not restricted to one category), and the largest was EMR/EHR, with around 175 listings. There were additional separate categories for EMR/EHR Ambulatory Care and EMR/EHR Military. There is clearly big money being spent on healthcare informatics. If there was one take away from HIMSS 2006, it was the feverish interest in sharing of electronic medical / health records. Of the areas set aside for organizations to show case their products and technology, by far the largest was that for interoperability, which was much larger than all the others combined (64 scheduled presentations, vs. 28). I sensed undertones of "This is how you share information my way, which is the best way" but I am sure these will pass. I attended a presentation and demonstration on FHIE (Federal Health Information Exchange) with the ability to share health records for members of the US military between the Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs. As this software appears in the public domain through the Freedom of Information Act, it will probably help set a de facto standard, much as VistA has for electronic health records. There were multiple vendors offering VistA based solutions, and the booth of at least one appeared to be quite busy. I was at HIMSS as part of the team from VistA Software Alliance (http://www.vistasoftware.org), a trade association of organizations offering services associated with VistA, such as implementation and support, as well as associated products. Although we were in a small booth in an upstairs room (i.e., off the main floor), we had a fair amount of traffic and several attendees sought us out. Visitors could learn about VistA and pick up reprints of recent articles about VistA as well as collateral from member companies. Fidelity's collateral was the FOIA VistA VivitA 20060113 live CD of VistA on GT.M on GNU/Linux, and this was quite a popular item. http://himss.org/ASP/ContentRedirector.asp?ContentId=65647 is a survey on EMRs released by HIMSS during the show that clearly shows an increased level of interest in EMRs. I feel confident that VistA will be a hot topic at HIMSS 2007. [Side bar: I was actually not able to spend as much time at HIMSS as I planned to. My original schedule called for me to depart from Philadelphia on Sunday, February 12 at 6:05pm. A storm ending around noon had dumped around 18 inches of snow, but Philadelphia airport had reopened, the incoming aircraft arrived on schedule, the passengers had boarded and settled by 6:10pm, and I expected the doors to close and the a
RE: [Hardhats-members] Compiling CPRS
To a much larger extent, the typical design process for Java/.NET enterprise solutions is best done via multiple layers. By having the business logic in a callable form (say web services) at the server-level, the Java specific client components are much lighter. It allows multiple clients (not just the fat binary, but JSP/ASP.NET and mobile devices) a way to communicate with the system without re-engineering a lot of code. By placing a lot of functionality at the server and making the client a little dumber, they probably needed Java there so that the two-way communication can be done more "efficiently". For instance, our application creates consent forms and then sends them into VistA and VistA Imaging during the "save" process. It's easier for the system to encrypt an XML file containing all the meta data for this saving process on the client and send it up to our server for processing. Our server has a .NET NT Service running in the background that decrypts the information and communicates with VistA to save this information off. It's easier for our developers to use XML and .NET Crypto services because that's their language. Someone else deals with the .NET assembly that can communicate with VistA via RPC. On one side, you have this OOP approach to creating an object, setting properties, calling methods - etc. While on the other side, an RPC call is crafted and blasted out. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:33 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Compiling CPRS --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I guess smarter people than me have thought about this. But > then again, the project did get shut down. I wonder why there is a > need to change the server side? Couldn't a java app talk to existing > server software? Java doesn't necessarily have to talk to an > intermediate, I'm guessing. > > Kevin There are a lot of issues here, not the least of which is intetgrating VistA into a larger framework. But theoretically, is an approach of the type you describe possible? Recall that the RPC Broker uses a protocol that was invented as part of VistA, it is not at all standard. You could implement, say, JMS on the server side, but not without a fair amount of work (and I don't even know if the TCP/IP support available at the MUMPS level is even up to the task). Conversely, you could implement a Broker client in Java. But there's a much (in my opinion) serious problem, and that's that there is no real abstraction here: the choice of technology (on both ends) remains "hard-wired", and that is something that really needs to be avoided. Historically, this (lack of abstraction) has been an area of weakness for VistA, and I think it's time to do something about it. === Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." --Arthur Schopenhauer --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Compiling CPRS
Nancy can chime in here on what it takes to build CPRSChart.exe using Delphi - I think there's even a wiki on it. But it looks as though they give you the source to place within CPRS Chart. I noticed several references to areas of code that should be brought over from an existing source tree. I'm assuming you take the version of CPRS that's needed, add it their extensions (code replacements), and then compile it to have an integrated CPRS that works AS CPRS-R. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 8:34 AM To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Compiling CPRS Is there a way to get the VA-developed libraries. I saw some Delphi stuff in the build file also do you need the compiler and the DLL that is in the build file or will it compile with binary files.. Thanks Marc Aylesworth PAR C3I Group AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:10 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Compiling CPRS The readme for those who haven't looked yet: The associated zip file, "CPRS Rehost Source.zip", should unzip into two directories: \midtier(This is the middle tier Java code) \plugins(This is the client code that plugs into the HealtheVet Desktop) The wrapped Delphi code is inside: \plugins\cprs.wrapped\Delphi The plug-in model is based on Eclipse, so there are XML files throughout the code tree. Similarly, the Spring framework is used and the XML files associated with it are in the code tree. The CPRS re-host source depends on the following VA-developed libraries that are not part of the CPRS code base. These are: healthevetdesktop.stableHealtheVet Desktop (including FatKAAT) patientlookup Patient Lookup vlj VistALink The following list contains the 3rd party Java libraries on which there are direct or indirect dependencies. Not all of these may be part of the delivery build -- some are for performance measurements or were experiments. aopalliance axis cglib classycle commons-beanutils commons-httpclient commons-jxpath commons-lang commons-logging commons-primitives concurrent crimson hessian3.0.6 hrtimer htmlparser jakarta-cactus-13-1.5 jakarta-commons jakarta-oro jawin jazzy jemmy jfreechart jms jmx junit junitperf junitx-5.1 log4d log4j mom4j msv springframework stringtemplate swingx velocity xdoclet xerces David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Compiling CPRS OK. So this is java that runs in a web browser, I guess? I know that Java can be used to create stand-alone apps. But from all this discussion of server-side programs (of which I understand 10%), I assume it was targeting to have the user view CPRS from a web browser. Is that right? Kevin On 1/31/06, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is more like an ASP model. It uses the Java 2 Enterprise Edition > specifications from sun that provides functionality through what they call > Java Beans for a functional server. It looks like the CPRS Rehost is both a > server and client. It has a pieces that are like the Object broker and talk > to the server and also has swing GUI parts that is the CPRS client. I do not > believe that the Java client will connect to the current Object Broker > without what is called an application server which handles all the > connecting and messege details on how you connect from server to client. > > Thanks > Marc Aylesworth > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splun
RE: [Hardhats-members] Compiling CPRS
The readme for those who haven't looked yet: The associated zip file, "CPRS Rehost Source.zip", should unzip into two directories: \midtier(This is the middle tier Java code) \plugins(This is the client code that plugs into the HealtheVet Desktop) The wrapped Delphi code is inside: \plugins\cprs.wrapped\Delphi The plug-in model is based on Eclipse, so there are XML files throughout the code tree. Similarly, the Spring framework is used and the XML files associated with it are in the code tree. The CPRS re-host source depends on the following VA-developed libraries that are not part of the CPRS code base. These are: healthevetdesktop.stableHealtheVet Desktop (including FatKAAT) patientlookup Patient Lookup vlj VistALink The following list contains the 3rd party Java libraries on which there are direct or indirect dependencies. Not all of these may be part of the delivery build -- some are for performance measurements or were experiments. aopalliance axis cglib classycle commons-beanutils commons-httpclient commons-jxpath commons-lang commons-logging commons-primitives concurrent crimson hessian3.0.6 hrtimer htmlparser jakarta-cactus-13-1.5 jakarta-commons jakarta-oro jawin jazzy jemmy jfreechart jms jmx junit junitperf junitx-5.1 log4d log4j mom4j msv springframework stringtemplate swingx velocity xdoclet xerces David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Compiling CPRS OK. So this is java that runs in a web browser, I guess? I know that Java can be used to create stand-alone apps. But from all this discussion of server-side programs (of which I understand 10%), I assume it was targeting to have the user view CPRS from a web browser. Is that right? Kevin On 1/31/06, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is more like an ASP model. It uses the Java 2 Enterprise Edition > specifications from sun that provides functionality through what they call > Java Beans for a functional server. It looks like the CPRS Rehost is both a > server and client. It has a pieces that are like the Object broker and talk > to the server and also has swing GUI parts that is the CPRS client. I do not > believe that the Java client will connect to the current Object Broker > without what is called an application server which handles all the > connecting and messege details on how you connect from server to client. > > Thanks > Marc Aylesworth > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Delphi Runtime Licensing Fees
None of the popular languages charge for runtime fees. Java, .NET, VB6, MFC, Delphi, etc. The runtime libraries are usually required simply to execute that binary on the target platform. The larger business packages with middle-tier requirements or business logic baked in require some level on royalty or runtime licensing. It'll be clear when you purchase the software what the runtime costs are. Usually these packages offer a development license and then end-user licenses or royalty fees. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:02 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Delphi Runtime Licensing Fees If there are, it is big news to me. They charge enough for it to make up for it. ;-) On Saturday 28 January 2006 11:16, Marc Krawitz wrote: For Delphi 7, does anybody know if Borland charges runtime license fees if I modify and distribute CPRS? Thanks, Marc -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Is there an FAQ on the Wiki I am missing
Even if there is one, probably not a good place for it if no one can find it… The first Q & A should be: Q: Where can I find the FAQ? A: Right here. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:37 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Is there an FAQ on the Wiki I am missing I've not seen a FAQ section. Good thing to start, though. Kevin On 11/23/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a contribution from Cameron to put there but can't find it. I don't want to make a new one if there is one already. -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] is communication between Vista server and client encrypted?
In order... It is not encrypted. It's not really safe. And you can't really do that. The gist of it is that RPC communication between VistA server and client is more like FTP. You initially connect on port 21 but the callback port can be something else and it "frequency hops" between different ports. Kevin and others on the list have forced VistA into staying on the initial port but as far as I know, that's not cooked into the actual FOIA release (correct me if I'm wrong, of course). The best bet is to do what most corporations do with all server/client data between secure and insecure network segments - use tunneling like SSH or VPN. Tunneling forwards traffic from the source to the target and vice-versa creating a direct & secure link. This is similar to the security setup for HL7. HL7 traffic occurs in the back-end between servers in their own network segment segregated from the rest of the network. No one else can listen in so the traffic is considered safe. If you wanted to be truly safe on the wire, you implement IPSec for system-to-system encryption. But HL7 over MLP(TCP) is still plain-text. That's my experience with it... /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P Andre, MD Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 3:54 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] is communication between Vista server and client encrypted? Hi, I have a couple of questions: - Is communication between server and client on vista are encrypted ? - Is it safe to leave a Vista server open to the Internet, instead of being inside an intranet? - How do you change the Vista communication port from 9210 to 80 or 443 (like it was done for the VA Vista demo) Thanks for your help, Paulo __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] how to import claims and drug data to Vista Office
Or what I did was a telnet scripting program that worked against the user interface and not the back end. Not very fast compared to working with data alone but I managed to get most of process automated for building an entire database including running INIT routines, working with FileMan, adding users, adding patients, etc. It's kinda a soup-to-nuts process for re-creating a VistA database internally for testing our product against the latest and greatest FOIA build. The only thing it doesn't do is ScreenMan easily because it uses the telnet buffer and not screen scraps but that's not a really big deal since you don't HAVE to use ScreenMan. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 4:41 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] how to import claims and drug data to Vista Office See below: On 11/11/05, P Andre, MD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed Vista-Office and I would like to > request your advice. > We get monthly text files with all drug and procedure > claims from several insurers. Do you mean that they provide you with a list of all the procedures you have billed them for? If so, the information should be put into your system at the time they are generated, I would think. Not when they come back from the insurance company. > In general terms, is there a way to import all > these claims each month and pre-populate Vista Office? > How do you avoid adding patient duplicates on FileMan? I had a similar issue when I wanted to populate my database with the entire 70,000 patient list from our old medical record system. I ended up writing custom code that parsed a text file, set up a record, searched for pre-existing records to avoid duplicates, and then filed the data via database API calls. Since then, another user posted that he did essentially the same thing without any programming, by using the Fileman import functions with data in spreadsheet format (either tab-delimited or comma delimited format). See here: http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Register_a_Patien t#Importing_legacy_data > > I would like to import the following fields: > From Demographics data: > name, address, phone, dob, insurance id and insurance > name, Sex, PCP First Name,PCP Last Name. > > From claims data: > Provider First Name, > Provider Last Name > Diagnosis Code > Diagnosis > Procedure Code > Procedure Name I don't know which file this would go into, but I presume you could get the information in with an import, just like importing patient data. The real question will be, however, is if one simple entry in one file will be enough to truly get the information into the database. I.e. does it need to be cross-referenced to other files etc? > > From medications data: > Date of Prescription: > Drug Name: > Brand/Generic: > Number of Pills: > Prescriber First Name: > Prescriber Last Name: > > Thanks for your help, > > Paulo > Let us know how it goes. Kevin > > > > __ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download > it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own > Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA HL7 resources
HL7 v3 is XML based but it'll still be complicated. Having HL7 v2 represented with hats ^ and pipes | instead of tags is not going to make HL7 any easier. Here's a great breakdown on the different versions: http://www.neotool.com/company/press/200305_v3.htm /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:49 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA HL7 resources Nancy told me that an upcoming version of HL7 is to be in XML format. I hope that will simplify things. Because the documentation I saw for HL7 made me feel that it was a complex protocol. Kevin On 11/11/05, Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:02 AM, Robert Leonardo wrote: > > Other than the HL7 documentation on the VA website, does anyone know of any > resources to help me create a working HL7 interface. It seems to me that you > would have pretty in depth knowledge of the database and M language to > configure anything HL7. The VA docs assume that you have a fair knowledge of > the system and not a noob like me. > > Once one is created is it possible to save it to something like an export > file for future use with other databases? > > Thanks in advance, > > Robert Leonardo > I replied to the other list, too. > > You are absolutely right. The VistA HL7 package essentially consists of two > pieces: a messaging engine and a low level API. There have been some > attempts to create tools at a higher level of abstraction, but right now, > you're pretty much stuck with custom applications. It's not just HL7 though, > historically, VistA developers have preferred to work at a low level because > it is fast and easy, and there's been little demand for higher level tools. > I've developed (and used) some fairly simple tools based on abstract > machines (or automata), but the approaches I've been investigating to the > general problem of building interfaces at are still somewhat experimental > (and theoretical). I am not aware of any generally useful tools for building > interfaces without writing low level code. The essence of the problem is > that high level tools generally require a semantic model that is > compositional, but compositionality and concurrency are somewhat at odds > with one another. I've been exploring tools (such as monads) that are used > in functional programming to get the interference resulting from concurrency > under control, but it's not an easy problem. > > > > === > Gregory Woodhouse > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "The universe is not required to be in > perfect harmony with human ambition." > --Carl Sagan > > --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] OpenVistA installation troubles
Nancy, if it's not too much to ask. Can we have (or I can put) up this content as a "general overview" on the wiki. That way anyone can just point there. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:04 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] OpenVistA installation troubles Nuriel, what you have is a system that is totally unconfigured and has to be set up from scratch. I am wondering if this is really what you want to do, as it is a major project to do it. If you are interested in seeing what the clincians interface is like, you can look at www.va.gov/vista and download the client software and take a look. If you are interested in configuring a system, here are some links to get started. I would like to arrange a time to talk with you on Skype www.skype.com if you are interested so I can help you get started more easily. http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum This will have most of what you need http://www.WorldVistA.org/vvso This will eventually have training information http://www.WorldVistA.org will have information about meetings of WorldVistA that are open to all http://www.hardhat.org has a wealth of information especially about the infrastructure of VistA There is additional information at http:\\www.geocities.com\lktop3\ about installation https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members is not only the technical mailing list where most of the community hangs out. The archives f that are searchable and are a goldmine There is another mailing list with a slighly different focus that is about VistA-Office and other things VistA at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vista-officeehr-forum The scratch install instructions for VistA on Cache and instructions for getting CPRS going are at http://www.hardhats.org/projects/PROJECTSmain.html The VA has extensive documentation of VistA at http://www.va.gov/vdl The FOIA and other software download site for the va is ftp.va.gov/vista The Iowa Foundation for Medical Care is at www.ifmc.org and support a site about VistA-Office EHR http://www.vista-office.com/ Cache folks are at www.Intersystems.com GT.M is at www.sourceforge.net search on GT.M be sure to include the period Many of the Vendors have banded together into the VistA Software Alliance at www.vistasoftware.org On Wednesday 09 November 2005 03:32 am, nuriel wrote: Hi everyboby, I'm a french student trying to make a comparison between two healthcare system : Care2x and VistA. We (the group I'm working with and I) may choose one of these two to see how we can use it to enhance an already existant system. I've burned a livecd (OpenVistA Viva FOID Gold) found here http://sourceforge.net/projects/ worldvista and tried to run it. After a few time, I was promted that the database was installed and then the prompt turned into GTM>. After that... nothing. Is it normal ? Is there any user interface ? Precision : I'm definitely a newbie with linux. I borrowed a computer running a debian distribution. I want to apology in advance for my bad english. Please let me know if you do not understand what I mean. Best Regards Nuriel Accédez au courrier électronique de La Poste : www.laposte.net ; 3615 LAPOSTENET (0,34€/mn) ; tél : 08 92 68 13 50 (0,34€/mn) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Taskman Parameters
Well, that's what I'm using at I changed it to match my GETENV^%ZOSV output. I just read Kevin's response and if each task is holding onto the box/vol pair in the task itself, then it could simply be a hold-over from before I got around to updating my system. I'll check and re-run the system configuration tools (from the wiki instructions). I thought maybe there was an easier way to get my taskman changes into the current environment because simply changing taskman parameters didn't do it. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:24 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Taskman Parameters I noticed that the box:volume pair was set to VISTA:PLATINUM in a recent FOIA I chanced to investigate, and you will need to change it. On Friday 04 November 2005 01:10 pm, David Sommers wrote: Taskman site parameters don't match monitoring and causing problems. I don't really use Taskman for anything but this one's bothering me. I have two VistA Instances (databases) on a single Cache server. The first one works fine, but this one has an odd problem. I compared the two databases and didn't see anything obvious. The question: Why does Taskmon show VISTA:PLATINUM while my site settings are set to VISTA:CACHE? I've compared all my globals to another database which works (since I wasn't sure wherePLATINUM" was coming from) and I didn't find a thing. Anything I can check? Did I miss an INIT somewhere? My VOLUME SET and all SITE settings look right... Thanks, David. My TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS: The value for the current account is VISTA:CACHE Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: VISTA:CACHE BOX-VOLUME PAIR: VISTA:CACHE// LOG TASKS?: NO// ^ My monitor output: Checking Taskman. Current $H=60208,47168 (Nov 04, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:06:08) RUN NODE=60125,51760 (Aug 13, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:22:40) Taskman is late by 7166593 seconds. shutting down. Checking the Status List: Node weight status time $J VISTA:PLATINUM RUN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:22:40538970304 Main Loop Checking the Schedule List: Taskman has 3435 tasks scheduled. All of them are overdue. First task is 7159751 seconds late. Checking the IO Lists: There are no tasks waiting for devices. Checking the Job List: There are no tasks waiting for partitions. Checking the Task List: There are 6 tasks currently running. On node VISTA:PLATINUM there are no free Sub-Manager(s). Status: Stop My environment check: Checking Task Manager's Environment. Checking Taskman's globals... ^%ZTSCH is defined! ^%ZTSK is defined! ^%ZTSK(-1) is defined! ^%ZIS(14.5,0) is defined! ^%ZIS(14.6,0) is defined! ^%ZIS(14.7,0) is defined! Checking the ^%ZOSF nodes required by Taskman... All ^%ZOSF nodes required by Taskman are defined! Checking the links to the required volume sets... There are no volume sets whose links are required! Checks completed...Taskman's environment is okay! Here is the information that Taskman has: Operating System: OpenM-NT Volume Set: VISTA Cpu-volume Pair: VISTA:CACHE TaskMan Files UCI and Volume Set: VISTA,VISTA Log Tasks? N Default Task Priority: 7 Submanager Retention Time: 0 Min Submanager Count: Taskman Hang Between New Jobs: 1 TaskMan running as a type: GENERAL Logons Inhibited?: N Taskman Job Limit: 100 Max sign-ons: 256 Current number of active jobs: 26 My environment: >D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y VISTA_SEQ^VISTA^DEWEY^VISTA:CACHE David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical <http://www.dialogmedical.com/> p> 800.482.7963 x46 | p> 770.982.7851 x46 -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Taskman Parameters
Taskman site parameters don’t match monitoring and causing problems. I don’t really use Taskman for anything but this one’s bothering me. I have two VistA Instances (databases) on a single Cache server. The first one works fine, but this one has an odd problem. I compared the two databases and didn’t see anything obvious. The question: Why does Taskmon show VISTA:PLATINUM while my site settings are set to VISTA:CACHE? I’ve compared all my globals to another database which works (since I wasn’t sure where “PLATINUM” was coming from) and I didn’t find a thing. Anything I can check? Did I miss an INIT somewhere? My VOLUME SET and all SITE settings look right… Thanks, David. My TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS: The value for the current account is VISTA:CACHE Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: VISTA:CACHE BOX-VOLUME PAIR: VISTA:CACHE// LOG TASKS?: NO// ^ My monitor output: Checking Taskman. Current $H=60208,47168 (Nov 04, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:06:08) RUN NODE=60125,51760 (Aug 13, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:22:40) Taskman is late by 7166593 seconds. shutting down. Checking the Status List: Node weight status time $J VISTA:PLATINUM RUN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:22:40538970304 Main Loop Checking the Schedule List: Taskman has 3435 tasks scheduled. All of them are overdue. First task is 7159751 seconds late. Checking the IO Lists: There are no tasks waiting for devices. Checking the Job List: There are no tasks waiting for partitions. Checking the Task List: There are 6 tasks currently running. On node VISTA:PLATINUM there are no free Sub-Manager(s). Status: Stop My environment check: Checking Task Manager's Environment. Checking Taskman's globals... ^%ZTSCH is defined! ^%ZTSK is defined! ^%ZTSK(-1) is defined! ^%ZIS(14.5,0) is defined! ^%ZIS(14.6,0) is defined! ^%ZIS(14.7,0) is defined! Checking the ^%ZOSF nodes required by Taskman... All ^%ZOSF nodes required by Taskman are defined! Checking the links to the required volume sets... There are no volume sets whose links are required! Checks completed...Taskman's environment is okay! Here is the information that Taskman has: Operating System: OpenM-NT Volume Set: VISTA Cpu-volume Pair: VISTA:CACHE TaskMan Files UCI and Volume Set: VISTA,VISTA Log Tasks? N Default Task Priority: 7 Submanager Retention Time: 0 Min Submanager Count: Taskman Hang Between New Jobs: 1 TaskMan running as a type: GENERAL Logons Inhibited?: N Taskman Job Limit: 100 Max sign-ons: 256 Current number of active jobs: 26 My environment: >D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y VISTA_SEQ^VISTA^DEWEY^VISTA:CACHE David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical p> 800.482.7963 x46 | p> 770.982.7851 x46
RE: [Hardhats-members] DEBUGGING IN CACHE
The Logitech and Microsoft keyboards have nice driver utilities that allow you to map keys to shortcuts and etc but they're not macro apps. I'd look for a small, quick, and free macro application for Windows. There are a ton out there - anyone have any recommendations? David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Gray Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 7:17 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] DEBUGGING IN CACHE Unfortunately I can find no evidence that my Dell keyboard has that capability. Jim - Original Message - From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] DEBUGGING IN CACHE Some keyboards have programmable keys that would help. You could just press a key, and out would come the magic "S+" Kevin On 10/31/05, James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has anyone figured out how to make dubugging using the Cache debugger go > faster. You can single step very fast by pressing > G > but it slows the flow when you have to keep going back to either > B "S+" > or > B "S-" > Maybe it just me, but I cannot type those strings quickly. > > Jim Gray --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Scanning and pdf issues.
Depends on the tool you use to covert from Word to PDF. Adobe has a printer installed into Windows and options are available under the printer itself. This allows any program that can print to create PDF Files. Many other PDF tools can do that as well but Adobe being the "standard" - that's probably what many of us are referring to. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:05 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Scanning and pdf issues. I'm in a Windows environment, but I am still not following you. In my control panel->printers printers folder, there are only my regular printers defined. I don't see any PDF writer. Perhaps that is the way your software is setup, but it's not universal? Kevin On 10/25/05, Michael D. Weisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is the scanner in a Windows or Linux environment? In Windows, the PDF > Writer properties may be accessed through the Control Panel / Printers / > Printing Preferences. > > Mike > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Scanning and pdf issues. > > > Well, this was a form that couldn't be turned into text via OCR.So > it must be saving it as a full graphic file somehow. > > Unfortunately, the pdf writer in my capture program doesn't have the > features you describe. > > I am going to try to find a better capture program. > > Thanks > Kevin > > On 10/25/05, Michael D. Weisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:12 PM > > > We had a discussion recently about the advantages of .pdf files for > > > document imaging.So I changed my scanning solution to work with > > > pdf files. > > > > > > Today I am putting this to the test in a production environment. > > > > > > But I am unhappy with the .pdf format. It seems to be HUGE! > > > > > > I am using the software that came with my hp scanjet 4400c. When I > > > scan a single page, it tells me that the B&W image has a file size of > > > 115k. I then specify to save as .pdf file. The size of the .pdf file > > > is the found on the disk to be 3,201 kb! > > > > Please check the resolution (300 DPI ??) on the "Page Setup" for the PDF > > Writer as well as the "Compression Options" I find the best settings are > to > > "downsample images", "compress text and line art" and compress images > using > > ZIP (lossless). I embed all fonts for portability of the pdf file. > > Depending on the content, the file should be slightly larger than a > > compressed TIF. Please note that it will be much larger than a JPEG, > unless > > you use JPEG compression (lossy) of the image data. > > > > > What kind of overhead problem am I dealing with? > > > Are there different levels of compression withing the .pdf? > > > Would a different scan-to-pdf program be more effecient? > > > > > > Can anyone else give me data on their resulting pdf file sizes? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. > > Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course > > Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 > > Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. > Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Course > Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005 > Visit http://www.jboss.com/services/certification for more information > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. > Get Certified Today * Register for a JBoss Training Co
RE: [Hardhats-members] TEST/PRODUCTION Account
That reminds me of our CCOW thread. I did end up finding out what the problem was. Basically the user I was logged in as had a problem with Keys and Menus. The error message was mis-leading. I noticed it after checking any activity with CCOW and the manager basically said "nope - nada". So I went thru and checked other kernel, rpc, and site settings. Then moved on to the user and bingo. Thanks again for the CCOW conversation though. Gets a great subject out there for the list to munch on. We've been saying use CCOW=DISABLE but there's always more to it. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Palmer, Mike Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:50 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] TEST/PRODUCTION Account Step #11 in patch XU*8*284 11. In the VAH account: Please run the Menu option "Ask if Production Account" (XU SID ASK). This will ask if the current account is the Production account. Please answer accordingly. The Option "Startup PROD check" (XU SID STARTUP) should be scheduled for startup so that when TaskMan starts the SID is checked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yamir Encarnacion Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:31 AM To: Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] TEST/PRODUCTION Account When I connect to Vista with "D ^XUP" I get a message that says: "This is a TEST account." How do I change it from a TEST account to a PRODUCTION account? Also, what is the difference between a TEST and a PRODUCTION account? Thanks in advance. Yamir Encarnacion __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry
Search for the string "HOME DEVICE" at the Wiki. http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Installation_How_ To_Vista/Cache_for_Windows Everyone, we should really focus on providing the same pointers for help. If you have to repeat anything on the list twice, please add it to the Wiki. Nancy, I hate to say it - but having your manual up twice is confusing. Maybe we should redirect users at the HardHats site to the Wiki. Having one set of documentation that everyone in the community can work on is the point of having a Wiki. Plus I spent a few hours last week updating it to the latest FOIA and I've already included many of these repeating questions. Call IRM, Home Device, Null terminal on RPC Broker, etc. I noticed Chapter 2 isn't up on Wiki - should that be the next big step? Anything wrong with the current Chapter 1 (besides some HTML/CSS odd visuals with some code chunks)? Am I alone here? /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Spraggins Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:19 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry Finally, got pass step 41 but, I get this message at step 43, any ideas? "Home device does not exist in the device file. Please contact your system manager! Try Later" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:52 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry Current 41. I would renumber it but I cannot automatically number so changing 110 numbers was not on my plate of To Dos. Now to create your own domain. From the VISTA prompt, start VA FileMan by typing "D Q^DI". At the Select OPTION: prompt. Type "1". (You can see why you typed 1 if you type "??" at the option prompt. That will give you the list of options you can choose from and 1 is ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES.) At INPUT TO WHAT FILE: type "DOMAIN" and accept the ALL// default to EDIT WHICH FIELD. At Select DOMAIN NAME: enter a local domain name. Substitute an appropriate value for VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM in the example below. NB: If you are prompted for an ACCESS CODE, press ENTER until you get back to a simple prompt and enter "S DUZ=1" before running "D Q^DI". Select OPTION: 1 ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES INPUT TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// DOMAIN EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// Select DOMAIN NAME: VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM Are you adding 'VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM' as a new DOMAIN (the 2ND)? No// Y (Yes) FLAGS: ^ Select DOMAIN NAME: On Tuesday 11 October 2005 02:36 pm, David Sommers wrote: Step 41 is very complicated and the two "notes" are not separated well, I'll try changing those two around... Within step 41, it reads this: - N.B. If you are prompted for an ACCESS CODE, you will need to skip ahead to the section "Set Yourself Up as the System Manager", steps 49-78, and do that first. Then return to this step and use the ACCESS CODE you gave the System Manager. - That's confusing; so I added this note which is much quicker: You can also try typing S DUZ=1 before entering into D Q^DI I'll make that cleaner right now. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Spraggins Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 2:14 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry I'm having simular problem, I get through step 41, however I'm unable to create an access code. It states this task can be completed via step 49 but, not sure where that step actually start/ed. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:50 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry Sorry Nancy - that's not it either. I already created that domain already in step 41. So my domain "VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM" is listed when you ??. My output matches step 48, that's where I was. Trying to add in a new RPC BROKER SITE. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:06 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry You know, I should have tumbled to where he was making the change.
RE: [Hardhats-members] RPCBroker components for VB application
We, at Dialog Medical, simply wrapped the library in Delphi in an ActiveX container and exposed all the right methods and properties. It’s real easy to do if you’ve ever done ActiveX in Delphi. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius at ETL Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:12 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] RPCBroker components for VB application Hi, Does anyone know whether RPCBroker or similar components available for VB? regards julius Make sure YOUR emails don't get lost! Download Mailinfo here
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS alternatives (was: Cost to convert CPRS to Java
>From my perspective, web apps (unless you're talking ASP.NET) still require a lot of "goo work". Coding in classic ASP, PHP, Python, and Perl requires a lot of [what .NET calls] View State management. Stuff like, entering a string into a text box. You have to code in the form post, validate it, if an error, show the same HTML and then put in (yourself) the original text with a message explaining why it wasn't accepted. In real world apps, you balance the thick and the thin. There are still, arguable, a ton more that can be done in thick than in HTML. And that is why not all my projects are on the Web. I have a mixture of both. This is a perfect example of using the best tool for the job. I would argue that it would be quicker to write a fully functional and interactive EMR in some thick language than via a web browser. Jim, it sounds like the software delivery mechanism was a key point in your tools and platform decision, so that's the tipping point for your situation but not all situations are alike. Each developer or project will have to follow an analysis process. In comparison, most EMRs are not delivered via the web browser. Not saying they're right or wrong, it's just that the decision isn't so cut-n-dry. I'm not going to speak for all the M programmers out there - but to build CPRS in a pure web browsing experience would be somewhat drastic. And there's key pieces that may not fit so well, like what about diagnostic images or EKG readings, etc. Eclipse, .NET, and Borland have many programmers in a drag-n-drop world where stateless/asynchronous applications take longer to build than your standard "EXE". Time = money, features > platform, reusable OOP > include hell. (ok, so the last one's just mine opinion but you know includes suck). Anyhow - I still don't see this mass migration to web apps even if AJAX becomes drag-n-drop, not yet. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Self Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:11 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS alternatives (was: Cost to convert CPRS to Java Mark Dalton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I was hoping to find a simple solution and to help make development quicker >and easier >for us to work on it and have it truely portable (versus via wine). I keep hoping to interest VistA programmers in helping with development of a web interface to VistA starting with M2Web. I believe that comparable functionality will require orders of magnitude less source code than thick client approaches like delphi or java. --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Cost to convert CPRS to Java
www.eclipse.org >From their web site: Eclipse is an open source community whose projects are focused on providing an extensible development platform and application frameworks for building software. Eclipse provides extensible tools and frameworks that span the software development lifecycle, including support for modeling, language development environments for Java, C/C++ and others, testing and performance, business intelligence, rich client applications and embedded development. A large, vibrant ecosystem of major technology vendors, innovative start-ups, universities and research institutions and individuals extend, complement and support the Eclipse Platform. Basically anyone in Java or working with Borland, IBM, and Sun have seen or used eclipse. It's, for the first time (well, first good shot), a base framework for Java developers. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Safir Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:11 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Cost to convert CPRS to Java On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 00:21 -0400, David Sommers wrote: > [And I've been using Eclipse for about 3 weeks on my laptop again, > damn > - I thought they would've fixed the speed problem by now... oh > well...] > The hospital software? Ruben --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] how to pass DUZ between applications?
And just to be clear, this doesn't just pass in the DUZ - this logs you
in automatically. You can then retrieve DUZ from the active connection.
David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical
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Palmer, Mike
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To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
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There is a way. There is an RPC Broker application contains a windows
application called the client agent. If that is installed on the
workstation and the DEFAULT AUTO SIGN-ON parameter in the KERNEL SYSTEM
PARAMETERS is set to yes or the parameter is set to no - and the AUTO
SIGN-ON is set to yes for the NEW PERSON entry in file 200 (if the
parameter is set to disabled it will not allow auto sign-on).
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Toppenberg
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There is a windows message that is broadcast that I believe contains
the currently selected patient. But that would only happen when a new
patient is selected.
I have commented before that it would be great if CPRS could be
modified such that command line parameters could contain variables,
i.e. myapplication.exe {DUZ}
Kevin
On 10/14/05, Anna Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have done the settings in VistA (using ORWT TOOLS MENU) to call
another
> GUI (CP User) from the CPRS Tools menu, which is working fine.
> When CP User starts up, it asks for the Access & Verify code of the
User for
> login. Since this GUI has been initiated from CPRS, which passes the
patient
> currently being accessed, why dosen't it pass the user (DUZ) ?
>
> In other words how can we pass the DUZ to the invoked application?
>
> Anna
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Cost to convert CPRS to Java
MONO IS AN OPTION. (read more...) I've been out of Java for about 2 years now in production quality coding and I'm just keeping up with it on the side... so take this as a "comment" and nothing more. Swing has always (to me) looked like a poorly done cross-platform UI because it was never "truly" native on a given OS or browser. Under Windows it was 'ok' but it never looked right on a Mac. In a previous life, I worked at a digital printing company where I learn some mad skillz in graphic editing (before, during, and after) where most desks had both a Mac and a PC. So many of the apps we built were cross-platform but MAN was Swing not "truly cross-platform" from a designer's perspective. Designing forms in Visual Studio (albeit for Windows only) is a much more satisfying experience because "it just works". [And I know enhancements have been made and specs put forth to fix this - but it's still a bad taste in my mouth.] But give it up for Todd! Mr elite mono hacker. I'm a .NET convert because I find all the Java extensions, JSPs, and fragmented tool space just plain horrifying when you just want to get crap done. Todd, I'm SO surprised you didn't offer it up - so I am. Use Mono! http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page [And I've been using Eclipse for about 3 weeks on my laptop again, damn - I thought they would've fixed the speed problem by now... oh well...] /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael D. Weisner Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:10 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Cost to convert CPRS to Java Could we put the weapons down, please? I am an accomplished programmer and I get lost in some of these discussions. I would like to ask those of you who are knowledgeable, and willing, to attempt to explain a bit more to those of us who do not have enough background to follow the thread. I would appreciate it if you would expand on your reasoning for the selection of a particular product or library rather than just spar with each other. There is much to be learned from an appropriate exchange of ideas. I have no clue as to the difference between Java AWT and Java Swing, for instance. Mike - Original Message - From: "Ruben Safir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Cost to convert CPRS to Java > > > > And no, it wasn't obviously clear that you meant to use gtk+ instead of > > Java AWT. I am just going to assume you feel the same about Java Swing. > > > > Not clear to you anyway. Clear to anyone with enough background. As for swing, > don't know, and don't care other than the fact that as Java it has all the problems > Java has...proprietary licensing and ownership. You know, the kind of stuff that hampers > its universal use without strings attached. > > Ruben > > > > -- > __ > Brooklyn Linux Solutions > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > http://fairuse.nylxs.com > > "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME" > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting > http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CCOW and "Application context has not been created!"
Hey Mike, I don’t think I’ve seen you here – welcome! To the list, Mike and I have worked a few CCOW “things” (not always a problem) at several VAMCs. I could take this off-list but I think it may be of benefit to those who want to go down this route. So the test and production thing was the fact that the strings passed around within the Context Manager were slightly off between Production and Test systems. In particular, the issue was apparent with iMedConsent™ at eHealth University (?) because we were looking for a specific construction of the site number. In that situation, CPRS worked fine – but iMedConsent™ didn’t join context because (if I recall) the DUZ’s acquisition number didn’t match CCOW’s site number which was parsed out of that slightly mangled string. iMedConsent™ cross checks a few values between our RPC session and CCOW to make sure everything’s copacetic. It this particular problem with the FOIA version, CPRS isn’t even working. But just in case, I did switch the system to Production and I’m getting the same thing. One thing to note, XU SID STARTUP reported nothing – at all – it just returned. Am I supposed to get a read out or check some Global? Anyways, still getting it. I’ll restart Cache, my box, and check the Vergence logs. Mike, did CPRS ever go with a keycode? I don’t happen to have one. I’m using the local Desktop Vault that’s part of the Sentillion SDK. For everyone else. CCOW requires two pieces. The Locator sits on the desktop and maintains communication between the applications (on the desktop) and the Vault. The Vault sits (at the VA) on the network and maintains context for the user/patient. The SDK includes a Vault that sits just on the desktop for testing purposes. It’s available for free from their web site if anyone wants to try it out. And technically there’s a third piece which is the API that sits between my code (or CPRS) and the Locator. I’m sure someone will elaborate or find a good URL but I’m strapped for time. Shiny. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Palmer, Mike Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:11 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CCOW and "Application context has not been created!" I just had one of those light bulb moments. If I remember correctly there is a couple of issues that may cause it. I don’t know specifically how the CPRS.exe and FOIA databases are configured, but there is code in the Kernel that tries to determine if the system is a production or test system. It changes the applications pass through CCOW – applications may or may not behave properly when they get an unexpected string. The purpose of the code was to prevent the context sessions from confusing connections between production and test systems. Sentillion software - If you run the acceptor (\program files\sentillion\desktopcomponents\acceptor.exe) you’ll see what is being passed. The options you may need to run on the system to make it know it is a ‘production’ system are: XU SID ASK XU SID STARTUP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:42 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CCOW and "Application context has not been created!" Actually my Locator and Vault seem fine. I still have my “old” CPRS exe and it connects fine to the non-FOIA database. When using a newer CPRS against the FOIA database (OR the older CPRS against the FOIA database), I get that same error. I’m wondering if something on the server-side within OR or Kernel needs to be tweaked, configured, or just plain enabled. I may have to compare settings between the two or check my network traffic to get down into it. I was just wondering if anyone has had a similar problem. Roy, have you tried using the FOIA version? A clean DB? /david. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roy Gaber Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:16 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CCOW and "Application context has not been created!" We experienced that same issue at a VA Medical Center, re-installing the vergence locator was the key to our solution, it should be installed as a privileged user. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:40 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] CCOW and "Application context has not been created!" So this question is the complete opposite of what many users will experience in the field. I’m having a problem getting CCOW to work with FO
RE: [Hardhats-members] Cost to convert CPRS to Java
I'll be honest that I've tried to develop two OSS projects and SF isn't the best place. Not only are they slow but their tools are old and not "integrated" with anything outside of the standard LAMP process. Even in LAMP, you have to do a lot of things manually. It's much easier to expose an internal system than to solely use an external system - that's from my experience. Plus their site is dog slow most of the time. Been better in the last couple months but I've still hit spots. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K.S. Bhaskar Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:16 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Cost to convert CPRS to Java On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 17:01 -0500, Todd Berman wrote: [KSB] <...snip...> > We are hoping to make it available under open licensing and with a > completely transparent development model, but the main stumbling > block > right now is the lack of a place to handle our development openly > (think > sourceforge, and for us sourceforge will not work). And we are > unwilling > to just do random unsupported code drops, we want to have an open > project, one that others can work on. Todd, I'm just curious - why won't Source Forge work for Medsphere? Also, how about collab.net? -- Bhaskar --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CCOW and "Application context has not been created!"
Actually my Locator and Vault seem fine. I still have my “old” CPRS exe and it connects fine to the non-FOIA database. When using a newer CPRS against the FOIA database (OR the older CPRS against the FOIA database), I get that same error. I’m wondering if something on the server-side within OR or Kernel needs to be tweaked, configured, or just plain enabled. I may have to compare settings between the two or check my network traffic to get down into it. I was just wondering if anyone has had a similar problem. Roy, have you tried using the FOIA version? A clean DB? /david. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roy Gaber Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:16 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CCOW and "Application context has not been created!" We experienced that same issue at a VA Medical Center, re-installing the vergence locator was the key to our solution, it should be installed as a privileged user. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:40 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] CCOW and "Application context has not been created!" So this question is the complete opposite of what many users will experience in the field. I’m having a problem getting CCOW to work with FOIA. After I setup the latest FOIA to my specs, I can’t get CPRS Chart to get the patient selection screen (after login) and I have all the Sentillion/Vergence bits in place. We usually are the one’s to troubleshoot many of the CCOW issues in the field in relation to iMedConsent™ but this is the first time I’ve had CPRS not even attempt a context session and only with the FOIA version. Figure I’d ask the list but I would really like to hear from Cameron - since you are DUZ=1 in the system ;) I’m thinking it’s a Kernel level option or something with login/RPC but I’ve just not come across this before. And disabling CCOW on the command line arguments is not an option because our app requires context. I still have my “other” VistA database that works but I’d like to get the FOIA version working (and it’s “fresh”). /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical p> 800.482.7963 x46 | p> 770.982.7851 x46
[Hardhats-members] CCOW and "Application context has not been created!"
So this question is the complete opposite of what many users will experience in the field. I’m having a problem getting CCOW to work with FOIA. After I setup the latest FOIA to my specs, I can’t get CPRS Chart to get the patient selection screen (after login) and I have all the Sentillion/Vergence bits in place. We usually are the one’s to troubleshoot many of the CCOW issues in the field in relation to iMedConsent™ but this is the first time I’ve had CPRS not even attempt a context session and only with the FOIA version. Figure I’d ask the list but I would really like to hear from Cameron - since you are DUZ=1 in the system ;) I’m thinking it’s a Kernel level option or something with login/RPC but I’ve just not come across this before. And disabling CCOW on the command line arguments is not an option because our app requires context. I still have my “other” VistA database that works but I’d like to get the FOIA version working (and it’s “fresh”). /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical p> 800.482.7963 x46 | p> 770.982.7851 x46
RE: [Hardhats-members] ScanSoft graphic component and The Gimp
And for security, utilizing IE and letting MS patch it at the OS level is better (from my IT stand-point) than doing your own engine or using some third-party that can't be patched at the system level. Unless all parts of the system can patch itself regularly or at the network level, using OS level functionality isn't a bad thing (unless you're shooting for cross-platform). That's another thing for the Mozilla engine. If you could re-use that engine but guarantee that it was patched to the latest and greatest, then I'd recommend either that or IE. Until 1.5 ships though, it won't "auto-patch". Also one more thing, you can restrict the level of access to the IE engine when you create the object so that it, for example, can only access trusted sites or local files - etc. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:56 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] ScanSoft graphic component and The Gimp On 10/11/05, Todd Berman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 21:37 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > > OK, Let's say I am willing to support .pdf files. > > > > Anyone have ideas about how to go about this: > > -- OLE adobe's reader? > > -- Determine what Todd's mystery library is (gtk+?) > > libpoppler. Again, not a viable option for a Delphi/Win32 application :( > > > -- send all media to an imbedded internet explorer (and let it handle > > the various file types, including .pdf)? > > > > Id almost suggest this, but then you get screwed for pngs > (transparency), also its way way heavy :(. So I'd say the first I guess. > > --Todd Regarding the heaviness of IE, I will point out that CPRS already comes with IE in it. I had to take it out to get the WINE version to run. I have added a second one to display progress notes that happen to be in HTML format. It wouldn't be a big deal to add another one. And multiple instances don't result in multiple copies of the full IE, I believe, any more than having multiple IE windows does. I may explore this method more. Of course IE can introduce security risks. I'll have to think about that... Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] ScanSoft graphic component and The Gimp
IE will only take up multiple processes if you ask it to. The MIME handler in IE is just handling the Shell as Explorer would. You'll need some type of PDF viewer installed as IE doesn't natively handle it. In Delphi, you could also make a call into the Class list to see who the registered application is for that file type and load the control yourself into some kinda frame - but then again, IE could do all that for you. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:56 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] ScanSoft graphic component and The Gimp On 10/11/05, Todd Berman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 21:37 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > > OK, Let's say I am willing to support .pdf files. > > > > Anyone have ideas about how to go about this: > > -- OLE adobe's reader? > > -- Determine what Todd's mystery library is (gtk+?) > > libpoppler. Again, not a viable option for a Delphi/Win32 application :( > > > -- send all media to an imbedded internet explorer (and let it handle > > the various file types, including .pdf)? > > > > Id almost suggest this, but then you get screwed for pngs > (transparency), also its way way heavy :(. So I'd say the first I guess. > > --Todd Regarding the heaviness of IE, I will point out that CPRS already comes with IE in it. I had to take it out to get the WINE version to run. I have added a second one to display progress notes that happen to be in HTML format. It wouldn't be a big deal to add another one. And multiple instances don't result in multiple copies of the full IE, I believe, any more than having multiple IE windows does. I may explore this method more. Of course IE can introduce security risks. I'll have to think about that... Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re:Connection lost
On the Wiki, do a page search for “Trouble”. I added that bit into the Wiki last weekend. http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Installation_How_To_Vista/Cache_for_Windows /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bharath Ramachandra Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re:Connection lost Greg, Is there a documentation that you can point me too. so that i can check about the task man and the RPC broker. Also when i try to telnet using hyperterminal after submitting my credentials I get " Trouble call IRM NOW" ( I have not idea what this means). Thanks Bharath Ramachandra Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry
Step 41 is very complicated and the two "notes" are not separated well, I'll try changing those two around... Within step 41, it reads this: - N.B. If you are prompted for an ACCESS CODE, you will need to skip ahead to the section "Set Yourself Up as the System Manager", steps 49-78, and do that first. Then return to this step and use the ACCESS CODE you gave the System Manager. - That's confusing; so I added this note which is much quicker: You can also try typing S DUZ=1 before entering into D Q^DI I'll make that cleaner right now. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Spraggins Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 2:14 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry I'm having simular problem, I get through step 41, however I'm unable to create an access code. It states this task can be completed via step 49 but, not sure where that step actually start/ed. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:50 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry Sorry Nancy - that's not it either. I already created that domain already in step 41. So my domain "VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM" is listed when you ??. My output matches step 48, that's where I was. Trying to add in a new RPC BROKER SITE. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:06 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry You know, I should have tumbled to where he was making the change. I was just looking at step 41 in the installation instructions on Hardhats and wondering why it wasn't working. Now I see he wasn't doing the same thing! 41. Now to create your own domain. From the VISTA prompt, start VA FileMan by typing "D Q^DI". At the Select OPTION: prompt. Type "1". (You can see why you typed 1 if you type "??" at the option prompt. That will give you the list of options you can choose from and 1 is ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES.) At INPUT TO WHAT FILE: type "DOMAIN" and accept the ALL// default to EDIT WHICH FIELD. At Select DOMAIN NAME: enter a local domain name. Substitute an appropriate value for VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM in the example below. NB: If you are prompted for an ACCESS CODE, press ENTER until you get back to a simple prompt and enter "S DUZ=1" before running "D Q^DI". Select OPTION: 1 ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES INPUT TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// DOMAIN EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// Select DOMAIN NAME: VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM Are you adding 'VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM' as a new DOMAIN (the 2ND)? No// Y (Yes) FLAGS: ^ Select DOMAIN NAME: On Monday 10 October 2005 06:53 pm, Roy Gaber wrote: Select OPTION: 8 DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES START WITH WHAT FILE: REMOTE PROCEDURE// RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS (1 entry) GO TO WHAT FILE: RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS// Select SUB-FILE: Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD// Start with field: FIRST// DEVICE: CONSOLERight Margin: 80// STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #8994.1 -- RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS FILE OCT 10,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:52:50 PAGE 1 STORED IN ^XWB(8994.1, (1 ENTRY) SITE: Vista-Office EHR UCI: EHR,EHR (VERSI ON 1.1) DATA NAME GLOBALDATA ELEMENT TITLE LOCATION TYPE --- This file holds the site parameters for this installation of the RPC Broker. It will have only one entry -- the domain name of the installation site. ^^ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:39 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry No I haven't. Is there something online that I can read up on or a ROUTINE that I can dig into? David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:11 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fi
RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry
Yeah, #41 works without a problem - step 48 has failed me twice. But
like I said; if you ignore that step, it still works.
Step 48 lists out (in my FOIA CACHE.DAT) "GOV" as the available domain.
It defaults to Listener stopped on the default port. You could easily
skip that entire step and still get the listener to start later on
towards the CPRS setup.
For me, I changed it to 9211 but left the DOMAIN as "GOV". And it still
worked fine. So it doesn't look like my domain has to be listed there -
just as long as something can listen in on the port.
/david.
David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:58 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry
So I will have to see what steps came before that allow it when folks
are
following the instructions because 2 docs apparently succeeded at step
41
just this weekend.
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 11:50 am, David Sommers wrote:
Sorry Nancy - that's not it either. I already created that domain
already in step 41. So my domain "VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM" is listed
when you ??.
My output matches step 48, that's where I was. Trying to add in a new
RPC BROKER SITE.
David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:06 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry
You know, I should have tumbled to where he was making the change. I
was just
looking at step 41 in the installation instructions on Hardhats and
wondering
why it wasn't working. Now I see he wasn't doing the same thing!
41. Now to create your own domain. From the VISTA prompt, start VA
FileMan by
typing "D Q^DI". At the Select OPTION: prompt. Type "1". (You can see
why you
typed 1 if you type "??" at the option prompt. That will give you the
list of
options you can choose from and 1 is ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES.) At
INPUT TO
WHAT FILE: type "DOMAIN" and accept the ALL// default to EDIT WHICH
FIELD. At
Select DOMAIN NAME: enter a local domain name. Substitute an appropriate
value for VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM in the example below.
NB: If you are prompted for an ACCESS CODE, press ENTER until you get
back
to a simple prompt and enter "S DUZ=1" before running
"D Q^DI".
Select OPTION: 1 ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES
INPUT TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// DOMAIN
EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL//
Select DOMAIN NAME: VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM
Are you adding 'VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM' as
a new DOMAIN (the 2ND)? No// Y (Yes)
FLAGS: ^
Select DOMAIN NAME:
On Monday 10 October 2005 06:53 pm, Roy Gaber wrote:
Select OPTION: 8 DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES
Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES
START WITH WHAT FILE: REMOTE PROCEDURE// RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS
(1 entry)
GO TO WHAT FILE: RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS//
Select SUB-FILE:
Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD//
Start with field: FIRST//
DEVICE: CONSOLERight Margin: 80//
STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #8994.1 -- RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS FILE
OCT 10,[EMAIL
PROTECTED]:52:50
PAGE 1
STORED IN ^XWB(8994.1, (1 ENTRY) SITE: Vista-Office EHR UCI:
EHR,EHR
(VERSI
ON 1.1)
DATA NAME GLOBALDATA
ELEMENT TITLE LOCATION TYPE
---
This file holds the site parameters for this installation of the RPC
Broker.
It will have only one entry -- the domain name of the installation site.
^^
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Sommers
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:39 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry
No I haven't. Is there something online that I can read up on or a
ROUTINE that I can dig into?
David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Gregory Woodhouse
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:11 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry
On Oct 10, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> David, try replacing the domain instead of making a new one - i.e.,
> after
> choose the domain you have, and then after the //, put the new name.
>
> On Monday 10 October 2005 04:08 pm, David Sommers wrote:
> Anyone ever get this?
>
>
>
> S
RE: [Hardhats-members] ScanSoft graphic component and The Gimp
Also iMedConsent(tm) (which deals with documents as our output, input, and everything in-between) supports TIFF and PDF primarily. Although we allow you to output something like JPEG but we don't recommend it. If you have an imaging solution that holds on to TIFFs, you are guaranteeing the state of the TIFF within your system. Once the file leaves your system (to be sent down to the client for printing or what not), you can't protect the file from alterations. PDFs support locking and signing. We digitally sign our PDFs with the author's digital signature. At one hospital they're signing the entire PDF with a single cert stamped as "THE HOSPITAL" to certify it was accepted at the server level. But it's very possible to sign it several times, one for each wet signature in addition to layers within the system (by client, by server, by imaging storage system, etc). Each one verifying the state of the document and ensuring that it wasn't tampered with. This is addition to any hashing and security in place at the storage system level. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Berman Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:50 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] ScanSoft graphic component and The Gimp On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 21:29 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > Todd, > > Tell me about why .pdf is important. > Because PDF is the natural choice for text documents, just as TIFF was 10 years ago. > I could attach any file I want to a note. The issue will be the > generation of thumbnails, and also the display of the .pdf documents. > Yup, that is the issue. Currently for our solution, I believe we will be generating a thumbnail image of the first page for the thumbnail, and then showing the entire pdf when it is opened. > Are you going to host the .pdf viewer in your application? It seems > that would also make deployment more difficult. > Somewhat kinda, we are in a unique situation, but we have a library that we are planning on using and distributing to allow pdf viewing. But no, we wont be using adobe's stuff, and it shouldn't add any real issues for deployment for us. > Why would this be better to do than just having a graphic image of the document? > Because there are good odds that PDF attachments are going to be very common. Right now, e-fax (which gives faxes as PDFs) and pdf scanners are very common, and will become more so. We will still support multipage TIFFs for compatibilities sake, but I would assume we will be recommending PDF over multipage TIFFs. --Todd --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry
Sorry Nancy - that's not it either. I already created that domain already in step 41. So my domain "VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM" is listed when you ??. My output matches step 48, that's where I was. Trying to add in a new RPC BROKER SITE. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:06 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry You know, I should have tumbled to where he was making the change. I was just looking at step 41 in the installation instructions on Hardhats and wondering why it wasn't working. Now I see he wasn't doing the same thing! 41. Now to create your own domain. From the VISTA prompt, start VA FileMan by typing "D Q^DI". At the Select OPTION: prompt. Type "1". (You can see why you typed 1 if you type "??" at the option prompt. That will give you the list of options you can choose from and 1 is ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES.) At INPUT TO WHAT FILE: type "DOMAIN" and accept the ALL// default to EDIT WHICH FIELD. At Select DOMAIN NAME: enter a local domain name. Substitute an appropriate value for VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM in the example below. NB: If you are prompted for an ACCESS CODE, press ENTER until you get back to a simple prompt and enter "S DUZ=1" before running "D Q^DI". Select OPTION: 1 ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES INPUT TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// DOMAIN EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// Select DOMAIN NAME: VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM Are you adding 'VISTA.MYDOMAIN.COM' as a new DOMAIN (the 2ND)? No// Y (Yes) FLAGS: ^ Select DOMAIN NAME: On Monday 10 October 2005 06:53 pm, Roy Gaber wrote: Select OPTION: 8 DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES START WITH WHAT FILE: REMOTE PROCEDURE// RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS (1 entry) GO TO WHAT FILE: RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS// Select SUB-FILE: Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD// Start with field: FIRST// DEVICE: CONSOLERight Margin: 80// STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #8994.1 -- RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS FILE OCT 10,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:52:50 PAGE 1 STORED IN ^XWB(8994.1, (1 ENTRY) SITE: Vista-Office EHR UCI: EHR,EHR (VERSI ON 1.1) DATA NAME GLOBALDATA ELEMENT TITLE LOCATION TYPE --- This file holds the site parameters for this installation of the RPC Broker. It will have only one entry -- the domain name of the installation site. ^^ -----Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:39 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry No I haven't. Is there something online that I can read up on or a ROUTINE that I can dig into? David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:11 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry On Oct 10, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: > David, try replacing the domain instead of making a new one - i.e., > after > choose the domain you have, and then after the //, put the new name. > > On Monday 10 October 2005 04:08 pm, David Sommers wrote: > Anyone ever get this? > > > > Select RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS DOMAIN NAME: VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM > > Are you adding 'VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM' as > > a new RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS (the 2ND)? No// Y (Yes) ?? Have you tried looking up the input transform? There are a lot of possibilities here: I've seen input transforms checking for "magic" variables, looking to see if you hold a key, checking system parameters, etc. Basically, it can do anything you can program. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure." --Kent Beck --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members ---
RE: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted...
Yeah - it's actually fairly painless (minus the long download but that's because I love my many many packages). I haven't tried SSHWindows but it looks like a fairly well done project, more so than some of the recent ones that I've been tinkering with. Also hate to give another Microsoft plug but they do give away "Windows Services for UNIX 3.5" for FREE. Page: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sfu/default.mspx DL: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sfu/downloads/default.mspx You get OpenSSL and OpenSSH from here to load on Windows: http://www.interopsystems.com/tools/ I can say that SFU (services for unix) works seamlessly but I haven't tried Open SSL or SSH on top of it. But it looks like that's fairly straightforward. Of course, I think it only loads on Windows Server and not XP - so it doesn't help Kevin in his situation. Still a nice option for anyone in a closely related situation. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:37 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted... I just wrote to Kevin off the list, but I will say that this prompted me to try again and there is a HUGE difference in installing Cygwin with OpenSSH now. Now have I succeeded in getting it running yet ?-- no. ;-( On Monday 10 October 2005 05:25 pm, David Sommers wrote: Well I run with cygwin but I saw this if you don't want it: http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/ Looks to be a cygwin-less install. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:58 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted... Thanks everyone for the input. I think I have decided it is too difficult to accomplish. I was hoping that I was missing something obvious. Thanks Kevin On 10/10/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think he wants to use a secure tunnel which I think will require installing > cygwin or something like that to make his Windows machine a ssh server. > I took a quick stab at getting an OpenSSH server running on my Windows machine > and it was not for the faint of heart, so I gave it up. However, I was not > highly motivated to make it succeed at the time. > > I think I read that someone had fixed up Cygwin or OpenSSH or something to > make it easier to get running. > > > On Monday 10 October 2005 11:50 am, Mike Lieman wrote: > > On 10/7/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > I am using PuTTY to create a port forwarding tunnell to connect to my > > linux server at work and run tightVNC viewer. That works OK. > > > > But occasionally I also want to connect to a windows desktop at my > > work that is also behind the office firewall. What I have been doing > > up to now is to connect with tightVNC to the linux server, and from > > there run a VNCViewer to connect to the Win PC (which is also running > > VNCServer). > > > > This involves running a remote desktop of another remote desktop, and > > is quite slow. I would like to do is to forward the ports somehow > > from the linux server directly to WinPC without having to have the > > double VNC step that slows everything down. > > > > Is this possible? Any thoughts? > > > > Thanks > > Kevin > > I use linux workstations, and I have success with vncviewer -via > $remote_site_firewall_IP $target_winpc_inside firewall > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > -- > Nancy Anthracite > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power A
RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry
No I haven't. Is there something online that I can read up on or a ROUTINE that I can dig into? David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:11 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry On Oct 10, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: > David, try replacing the domain instead of making a new one - i.e., > after > choose the domain you have, and then after the //, put the new name. > > On Monday 10 October 2005 04:08 pm, David Sommers wrote: > Anyone ever get this? > > > > Select RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS DOMAIN NAME: VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM > > Are you adding 'VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM' as > > a new RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS (the 2ND)? No// Y (Yes) ?? > > > Have you tried looking up the input transform? There are a lot of possibilities here: I've seen input transforms checking for "magic" variables, looking to see if you hold a key, checking system parameters, etc. Basically, it can do anything you can program. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure." --Kent Beck --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry
I did - that's in the last part of that email. Where FM reports "NO EDITING!!" I can say that it didn't matter though. Got the port up and connected to it. I had to update the Wiki in a few spots in reference to several things that I've noted personally and a couple new things that I've never come across (but was in the archive). I tried adding that RPC domain to a clean Cache 4 in a Virtual PC and my production Cache 4. I just downloaded the latest 5.0.15 which beats my current 5.0.3 version so I'll try that in a VPC later tonight. Thanks though - Nancy, you failed me! AH!!! (I kid) /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 5:04 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry David, try replacing the domain instead of making a new one - i.e., after choose the domain you have, and then after the //, put the new name. On Monday 10 October 2005 04:08 pm, David Sommers wrote: Anyone ever get this? Select RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS DOMAIN NAME: VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM Are you adding 'VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM' as a new RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS (the 2ND)? No// Y (Yes) ?? Select RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS DOMAIN NAME: VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM Are you adding 'VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM' as a new RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS (the 2ND)? No// ??? Answer with 'Yes' or 'No'? Y (Yes) ?? It's not letting me create a new domain - the latest FOIA has just "GOV" as on RPC domain. Anyhow, I selected GOV and tried to rename it to my own and it doesn't like that either: Select RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS DOMAIN NAME: GOV ...OK? Yes// (Yes) DOMAIN NAME: GOV// VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM NO EDITING!! DOMAIN NAME: GOV// I'm just updating our internal VistA instance in Cache along with updating the Wiki here and there. Any ideas? Oh, and I am "root" (MANAGER,SYSTEM): DUZ=1 DUZ(0)="@" /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical <http://www.dialogmedical.com/> p> 800.482.7963 x46 | p> 770.982.7851 x46 -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted...
The problem is that your pipe isn't encrypted. VNC (with just the 3.x password feature) isn't encrypting the traffic. SSH and IPSec create a tunnel between client and server (work and home, viewer and vnc daemon, etc). Kevin can't create a SSH host on his Windows box to connect securely to. He's been connecting to another box in his network and then utilizing it to connect to his Windows box. Kevin has several options: 1) Install SSH http://www.cygwin.com/ or http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/ 2) Use Remote Desktop for Windows It natively encrypts data although I recommend port forwarding thru the firewall on a non-standard port. In the RDC client, you can connect to non-standard ports by just adding in :PORT. So home.domain.com:45678 3) Use port forwarding. SSH from client to server but on the server, have that port redirect to another system. Normally you SSH to, say, port A on your box to access a service running on port B (same box). You could redirect to another system and redirect your traffic. 4) VPN (what I do). Tunnel all traffic to that subnet to another system. In essence you're "on that network". XP handles the routing table very nicely here - OSX not so well. Linux is fine if you know your chains and tables. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Lieman Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:36 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted... On 10/10/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks everyone for the input. I think I have decided it is too > difficult to accomplish. I was hoping that I was missing something > obvious. > > Thanks > Kevin > I need to draw a picture, let me show you how I do it... My Workstation. ( Linux, running vncviewer ) aa.bb.cc.dd | | The Internet | | xx.yy.zz.aa Remote Office Linux Firewall 192.168.1.1 | | | Windows PC. (192.168.92.150 ) What I do is fire up a vncviewer, and use the -via command line option to bounce it throught the remote office linux firewall. Basically, it sets up the tunnel between my workstation and the remote office linux firewall, and then the vnc connection to the windows pc, without the dual overhead. $ vncviewer -via xx.yy.zz.aa 192.168.92.150 and viola. I'm on the 150 box. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Imaging Disk requirements?
Hey - I already said Gimp. Where's my MOD points? j/k, and it runs in linux, windows, mac, etc etc. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:01 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Imaging Disk requirements? James, I like your idea about GIMP. I am going to post about this on another thread too. Thanks Kevin On 10/10/05, James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin, > You could try GIMPshop which is available at www.gimp.org. It is free and > powerful. There is only a beta version for Windows XP, but it runs on Mac > OS X. I am not clear if it runs on Linux although the parent of GIMPshop is > GIMP which I am sure runs on Linux. I can only assume that GIMP and > GIMPshop have ways of automating the processing of "images" so you can > increase contrast, apply an unsharp mask, and reduce resolution in batch > mode. > > I think you documents will be much more readable if you use 8 bits per > pixel. > Jim Gray > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Imaging Disk requirements? > > > James, > > Thanks for the info. I had intended 1 bit per pixel. But your advise > is appeciated. > > I have yet to get the tools in place to let me do all this image > manipulations. > > Thanks > Kevin > > On 10/10/05, James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since no one has apparently discussed these issues on this topic I will > > point some things out. > > > > Kevin, By BW do you mean gray scale (8 bits per pixel) or bitmapped (1 bit > > per pixel)? > > I assume you mean gray scale. You can very good documents this way. > > First > > scan a document at 300 dpi or higher, then increase the contrast of the > > image, then apply a good unsharp mask to the document. Then you can > > reduce > > the resolution down to 150 dpi. If you take these steps you will end up > > with documents that are *MORE* readable than documents scanned at 300 dpi > > and left that way. The steps could be automated so that it works well. > > Also jpeg compression can give you documents that are 10% of the size of > > the > > uncompressed image with little loss in such "images". > > > > Jim Gray > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:53 AM > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Imaging Disk requirements? > > > > > > > The OCR programs I have used require 300 dpi, and I suspect that might > > > be > > > something that should be considered for the future as it may be that not > > > only > > > typed but hand written notes could be loaded right into the database in > > > a > > > compact fashion and the scanned images archived for backup purposes > > > only. > > > > > > On Wednesday 28 September 2005 08:49 am, Mike Schrom wrote: > > > I think fax scans are lower about 150 dpi, but still, usually, readable. > > > That's a factor of four smaller file size, but even at 300, your figures > > > yield about 25,000 charts per terabyte. That's four 250 gig hard drives > > > at about $50 each (on sale). > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > > >> As I get close to completing a document imaging system that uses > > >> standard VistA Imaging code, I have wondered what use of the system > > >> will do to my disk space. > > >> > > >> Does anyone know what typical scanning resolution is (300 dpi?), and > > >> how much disk space this would take in BW, compressed as JPG file? I > > >> am guessing about 150k per image (image size 8.5x11 inches). If I did > > >> my math right, that would be about 6,600 images per gigabyte. Many of > > >> my charts have about 200 pages in them, so this would be about 25 > > >> complete charts per gigabyte. > > >> > > >> I am asking this because I am not planning on implementing the > > >> background processor that archives images off of the magnetic disks > > >> into an optical jutebox. It seems that disk drives are growing in > > >> size fast these days. > > >> > > >> Any thoughts? > > >> > >
RE: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted...
Well I run with cygwin but I saw this if you don't want it: http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net/ Looks to be a cygwin-less install. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:58 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted... Thanks everyone for the input. I think I have decided it is too difficult to accomplish. I was hoping that I was missing something obvious. Thanks Kevin On 10/10/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think he wants to use a secure tunnel which I think will require installing > cygwin or something like that to make his Windows machine a ssh server. > > I took a quick stab at getting an OpenSSH server running on my Windows machine > and it was not for the faint of heart, so I gave it up. However, I was not > highly motivated to make it succeed at the time. > > I think I read that someone had fixed up Cygwin or OpenSSH or something to > make it easier to get running. > > > On Monday 10 October 2005 11:50 am, Mike Lieman wrote: > On 10/7/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > I am using PuTTY to create a port forwarding tunnell to connect to my > > linux server at work and run tightVNC viewer. That works OK. > > > > But occasionally I also want to connect to a windows desktop at my > > work that is also behind the office firewall. What I have been doing > > up to now is to connect with tightVNC to the linux server, and from > > there run a VNCViewer to connect to the Win PC (which is also running > > VNCServer). > > > > This involves running a remote desktop of another remote desktop, and > > is quite slow. I would like to do is to forward the ports somehow > > from the linux server directly to WinPC without having to have the > > double VNC step that slows everything down. > > > > Is this possible? Any thoughts? > > > > Thanks > > Kevin > > I use linux workstations, and I have success with vncviewer -via > $remote_site_firewall_IP $target_winpc_inside firewall > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > -- > Nancy Anthracite > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Fileman - RPC not allowing new entry
Anyone ever get this? Select RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS DOMAIN NAME: VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM Are you adding 'VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM' as a new RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS (the 2ND)? No// Y (Yes) ?? Select RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS DOMAIN NAME: VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM Are you adding 'VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM' as a new RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS (the 2ND)? No// ??? Answer with 'Yes' or 'No'? Y (Yes) ?? It’s not letting me create a new domain – the latest FOIA has just “GOV” as on RPC domain. Anyhow, I selected GOV and tried to rename it to my own and it doesn’t like that either: Select RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS DOMAIN NAME: GOV ...OK? Yes// (Yes) DOMAIN NAME: GOV// VISTA.DIALOGMEDICAL.COM NO EDITING!! DOMAIN NAME: GOV// I’m just updating our internal VistA instance in Cache along with updating the Wiki here and there. Any ideas? Oh, and I am “root” (MANAGER,SYSTEM): DUZ=1 DUZ(0)="@" /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical p> 800.482.7963 x46 | p> 770.982.7851 x46
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: RPC call security question
Yeah - listen to Roy here - his explanation was much better.
David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roy
Gaber
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 9:43 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: RPC call security question
Kevin, any RPC's you use in your app need to be "registered" via a
B-type
menu option in file 19. Create an option and assign all of the RPC's
you
are using to that option, assign the option to the user(s) and create
context right after you establish your broker connection.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 8:49 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: RPC call security question
"@" access overrides RCPB security rules.
At 07:44 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:
>Reading some more, it appears that an application is supposed to
>create a context for it to run in. This is apparently done by calling
>RPCBroker.CreateContext(b_type_option_name).
>
>Searching in CPRS, I can only find calls with option names TX_OPTION
>and TX_ECSOPT... which is not the OR CPRS GUI CHART that I had
>expected.
>
>So now I am puzzled as to why it works at all with my user name. I
>have MANY keys assigned to myself, and a very high level menu option
>as my primary menu. And I aso have programmer access ("@"). I guess
>it could be any of these things
>
>Puzzled.
>Kevin
>
>
>
>On 10/9/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hmmm.
> >
> > I have now assigned MAG WINDOWS as a secondary option for the user,
> > and also gave them the security key MAG SYSTEM.
> >
> > And I am getting the same RPC error message.
> >
> > Any ideas anyone?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kevin
> >
> > On 10/9/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > One other quick thing,
> > >
> > > I think that it is MAG WINDOWS that must be assigned as a
secondary
> > > option to a user.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > On 10/9/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Never mind, I figured it out by reading the RPC broker help
file.
> > > >
> > > > If a menu OPTION is specified to be a "b" type, then there is a
> > > > multiple field called RPC.
> > > >
> > > > If a given RPC call is a member of the list held by the OPTION,
and
> > > > the user as this menu OPTION assigned as one of their secondary
menus,
> > > > then the RPC call is allowed.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/9/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I have just tried to use my imaging CPRS with another user and
am
> > > > > getting this error:
> > > > >
> > > > > "The remote procedure MAG3 CPRS TIU NOTE is not registered to
the
> > > > > option OR CPRS GUI CHART."
> > > > >
> > > > > I remember reading that the menu option security system is
used to
> > > > > determine if a user is allowed to make a given RPC call. So
this
is
> > > > > stemming from the fact that the new user has a different set
of
> > > > > assigned menus.
> > > > >
> > > > > But I don't know how to investigate this. Where and how is a
> > > > > procedure registered to a particular menu option (or option
tree)?
> > > > >
> > > > > When I do an inquiry of MAG3 CPRS TIU NOTE, I don't see any
link
to a
> > > > > menu option.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: RPC call security question
Kevin, under FileMan, look at OPTION for the CONTEXT in question (any
and all those that you may have assigned to yourself). You can add RPC
calls there.
For iMedConsent(tm), we use the OR CPRS GUI CHART context because we
only have half a dozen calls and there was just one that didn't exist by
default (in other words, most of our calls were related to CPRS like
creating Notes). The MAG4 REMOTE IMPORT call was added in manually at
each site to the OR CPRS GUI CHART context because it fell outside of
the "standard book of spells" for CPRS. Eventually the OR team was nice
enough to add that in for us because each site would have to manually
re-add MAG4 REMOTE IMPORT after an OR patch.
/David.
David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 7:45 PM
To: Hardhats Sourceforge
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: RPC call security question
Reading some more, it appears that an application is supposed to
create a context for it to run in. This is apparently done by calling
RPCBroker.CreateContext(b_type_option_name).
Searching in CPRS, I can only find calls with option names TX_OPTION
and TX_ECSOPT... which is not the OR CPRS GUI CHART that I had
expected.
So now I am puzzled as to why it works at all with my user name. I
have MANY keys assigned to myself, and a very high level menu option
as my primary menu. And I aso have programmer access ("@"). I guess
it could be any of these things
Puzzled.
Kevin
On 10/9/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmm.
>
> I have now assigned MAG WINDOWS as a secondary option for the user,
> and also gave them the security key MAG SYSTEM.
>
> And I am getting the same RPC error message.
>
> Any ideas anyone?
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
>
> On 10/9/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > One other quick thing,
> >
> > I think that it is MAG WINDOWS that must be assigned as a secondary
> > option to a user.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > On 10/9/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Never mind, I figured it out by reading the RPC broker help file.
> > >
> > > If a menu OPTION is specified to be a "b" type, then there is a
> > > multiple field called RPC.
> > >
> > > If a given RPC call is a member of the list held by the OPTION,
and
> > > the user as this menu OPTION assigned as one of their secondary
menus,
> > > then the RPC call is allowed.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/9/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I have just tried to use my imaging CPRS with another user and
am
> > > > getting this error:
> > > >
> > > > "The remote procedure MAG3 CPRS TIU NOTE is not registered to
the
> > > > option OR CPRS GUI CHART."
> > > >
> > > > I remember reading that the menu option security system is used
to
> > > > determine if a user is allowed to make a given RPC call. So
this is
> > > > stemming from the fact that the new user has a different set of
> > > > assigned menus.
> > > >
> > > > But I don't know how to investigate this. Where and how is a
> > > > procedure registered to a particular menu option (or option
tree)?
> > > >
> > > > When I do an inquiry of MAG3 CPRS TIU NOTE, I don't see any link
to a
> > > > menu option.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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[Hardhats-members] Audio format BS WAS: VistA Community Conference Call
Is it just me or do I see a true waste of time discussing what "file format" the last meeting should be in? I'm wasting my time reading thru those messages and I'm wasting even more time right now. Simply put - MP3 is THE MOST POPULAR FRICK'N AUDIO FORMAT . (PERIOD) Windows: Given MAC: Given Linux: Included in most. For SUSE and Ubuntu (both favorites, it's in a package): SUSE: http://www.opensuse.org/Restricted_Formats Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3 I hate to burst many of your *nix format loving arguments but linux considers DVD, MP3, Flash, and AAC (iTunes) "restricted formats" but for anyone who uses a linux day-to-day knows exactly where to get those and usually it's right there in the package manager. At the end of some, what is this - almost 30 messages... I still don't have a file to view. Can someone just please upload something and move on? Shouldn't we spend our collaborative effort working on VistA Imaging thumbnails with Kevin or enhancing the Wiki or working on [insert name of useful and productive project here]? And I would rather not waste time of file formats in the future unless it's the basis of some fundamentally building block to a useful tool or process that involves the entire community. In other words, if I have the notes from the last meeting in MS Word - don't start yelling at me about the OpenDocument format. Or should we start that thread now? /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 9:03 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call I have been offering to post these files as have Rubin and Todd, but I was concerned that we would have the continuing problem of our resources being scattered all over multiple websites, a problem that was finally beginning to improve with the wiki and I was loathe to see happening anew. When I suggested putting these audio files on the wiki, David Whitten did not jump in so I contacted him by telephone, knowing that he was likely too tied up to read the email. He was indeed tied up, but loved the idea of having someone besides the wiki machine host the files if they appeared to be on the wiki and there was linking to these files from the wiki to the host servers and someone else was willing to volunteer to maintain them as he could certainly use the help. He told me he could jump in and send an email to explain all of this(in a much more sensible way, I am sure) in a couple of hours. On Sunday 09 October 2005 08:03 pm, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 15:38, Chris Richardson wrote: > Ruben; > > I have audio for most of the community meetings. Perhaps we can push > those out to be hosted. You can contact me directly and we can arrange the > placing the wav files for conversion and posting. Sure, want me to translate them to ogg? How do you have them? Ruben > Very cool; Chris > > - Original Message - > From: "Ruben Safir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 10:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call > > > I can host it if you want > > > > Ruben > > > > On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 13:53 -0300, John Leo Zimmer wrote: > > > -- Original Message --- > > > From: "Chris Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 16:32:44 -0700 > > > > > > > No notes, but I did record it. Somebody want the wave file? > > > > > > I have it as a .ogg file, 15Meg vs 70+Meg in wave. Still a pretty large > > > attachment for email. > > > > > > jlz > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, > > discussions, > > > > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > > > ___ > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://l
RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging and Image filetypes
About to send you one (Photoshop can convert - umm - and so can Gimp - cool). David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:14 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging and Image filetypes Never mind, The image converter that Nancy sent me a link for did the job. Kevin On 10/7/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking of samples, I can't find any sample .TGA file to test my > system with. I can't find any on Google images either. > > Can anyone post/attach a sample .tga image? > > Thanks > Kevin > > P.S. on one converter it mentions that TGA can be 256 or 16M colors. > Any idea which one is standard for VistA Imagers? > > Kevin > > > > > On 10/7/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't have any samples. My IMAGE file was empty in my system, and the > > .ABS files are not stored in Fileman anyway. Sorry. If I get some code > > running that makes them, I'll be happy to share. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > On 10/6/05, John Leo Zimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I mean are there some xxx.abs files hanging around somewhere in VistA? > > > > > > jlz > > > > > > -- Original Message --- > > > From: Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > Sent: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 16:48:21 -0600 > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging and Image filetypes > > > > > > > A sample image? I'm not sure what you mean here. > > > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > > > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > > > ___ > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted...
The RDesktop project (on SF) is a client for linux but only Windows has the server piece. The exact opposite of your PuTTY setup ;) Doh! David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:14 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted... David, PuTTY is available as a client, but I have to have a SSH server running to accept the PuTTY session. And short of installing cygwin, I haven't found an opensource option for this. RDP sounds good, but I don't think it will work on my linux server (will it?) Thanks Kevin On 10/7/05, David Sommers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I find RDP (Remote Desktop) FAR superior to VNC. I still > run VNC as a service, to offer layers of connectivity but client paint > requests are dated in comparison. (Plus it routes sound, printers, > etc). > > As for your connection problem, you should be able to tunnel thru your > firewall and deliver a connection to your Wintel box. > > Last I checked, PuTTY was on Windows too. And here it is: > http://www.openssh.org/windows.html > > But I haven't tried it recently since I use VPN. > > /David. > > David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin > Toppenberg > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:08 PM > To: Hardhats Sourceforge > Subject: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted... > > Hey all, > > I am using PuTTY to create a port forwarding tunnell to connect to my > linux server at work and run tightVNC viewer. That works OK. > > But occasionally I also want to connect to a windows desktop at my > work that is also behind the office firewall. What I have been doing > up to now is to connect with tightVNC to the linux server, and from > there run a VNCViewer to connect to the Win PC (which is also running > VNCServer). > > This involves running a remote desktop of another remote desktop, and > is quite slow. I would like to do is to forward the ports somehow > from the linux server directly to WinPC without having to have the > double VNC step that slows everything down. > > Is this possible? Any thoughts? > > Thanks > Kevin > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?
You'll need to compare Outlook (or Thunderbird or insert your favorite POP/IMAP client here) against GUI Mail and not Exchange. Exchange is a groupware product and anyone is going to be hard-pressed to compare it to sendmail unless all you're doing is SMTP. Using Exchange for just SMTP and POP/IMAP is overkill. And the virus issue exists everywhere. The main problem with Outlook (again, not Exchange) is it *was* easy to execute attachments but that hasn't been the case for years. Outlook 2003 doesn't do it and I think SP2 for Office/Outlook 2000 fixed it as well. Outlook (today) won't download images, blocks access to dangerous attachments, and even has an anti-phishing system (as of 2003 SP2). If your organization (whomever it might be) takes security seriously, you'll have mail gateways along side your network firewalls. Speaking as an IT Admin, users will undoubtedly expose your network more so than hackers if you don't take proper precautions both externally and internally. My gateway even removes all scripts embedded into HTML files because - well - you just never know who's going to click on what without thinking! /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sowinski, Richard J. Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:41 PM To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? I don't know about postfix or sendmail, and what functionality they contain and whether or not you get the source code as well, and whether or not they are integrated with a fully functioning HIS. On viruses I'm talking about when Exchange is out of the equation, and Vista mail is all you're running. Somehow, I don't think there would have been nearly as many problems 2 years ago, when we were being assaulted on a daily basis. Anyway, just my opinion. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:21 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >[...] > > But, how many things does Exchange do that VistA Mail can't do, > especially > when enhanced with GUI Mail or other GUI clients? How about X.400? Okay, okay...We're really comparing apples and oranges here. Outlook as an MUA is one thing, Exchange as an MTA is another. Message format is not an MTA issue, it is something falling in the domain of the user agent (MUA). > >[...] > > The other thing is how many viruses, etc, were spread via Exchange? > How many > by VistA Mail ? Actually, they could be. If Mailman is used to relay a message to Outlook, it is just as capable of spreading a virus as Exchange. > > If I were going to setup VistA somewhere, one of the biggest reason's > I'd do > it is to get the free e-mail system, and get Microsoft's (or whoever > else's > e-mail system I was running) license fees off my back. So, why not go with sendmail or Postfix? No license fees there. === Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Einstein was a giant. He had his head in the clouds and his feet on the ground." -- Richard P. Feynman --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted...
Personally, I find RDP (Remote Desktop) FAR superior to VNC. I still run VNC as a service, to offer layers of connectivity but client paint requests are dated in comparison. (Plus it routes sound, printers, etc). As for your connection problem, you should be able to tunnel thru your firewall and deliver a connection to your Wintel box. Last I checked, PuTTY was on Windows too. And here it is: http://www.openssh.org/windows.html But I haven't tried it recently since I use VPN. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:08 PM To: Hardhats Sourceforge Subject: [Hardhats-members] Port forwarding wizardy wanted... Hey all, I am using PuTTY to create a port forwarding tunnell to connect to my linux server at work and run tightVNC viewer. That works OK. But occasionally I also want to connect to a windows desktop at my work that is also behind the office firewall. What I have been doing up to now is to connect with tightVNC to the linux server, and from there run a VNCViewer to connect to the Win PC (which is also running VNCServer). This involves running a remote desktop of another remote desktop, and is quite slow. I would like to do is to forward the ports somehow from the linux server directly to WinPC without having to have the double VNC step that slows everything down. Is this possible? Any thoughts? Thanks Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] The VA ftp site is back up
Actually, for you, it never existed. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:16 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The VA ftp site is back up Well, since I haven't tried connecting, it is not possible for me to have had trouble connecting. Does it follow that (for me) it is still down? --- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those of you who may have had trouble connecting, it is up again. > -- > Nancy Anthracite > === Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Without the requirement of mathematical aesthetics a great many discoveries would not have been made." -- Albert Einstein --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Test
I think we've had this discussion a few times - and all just in the last year. Personally, I love SF.NET for their work but their servers/service just plain sucks. I would skip options #1 and #2 because you never know when they'll have a "slow period" which the last one was blamed on a MySQL server problem and I think the one before was a bad patch. It's just one thing after another. Yahoo and Google are both just listservs - nothing special beyond that (except they both have so many ads that the web form doesn't justify the visit). I'm still holding out for true forums (with email capabilities). http://www.vbulletin.com/ http://communityserver.org Noticed that http://vistaoffice-ehr.com/ is down but that was our example last time. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhaskar, KS Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 9:54 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Test Although Source Forge is a wonderful place to host an open source project, mailman on Source Forge appears to be less robust than one would wish. We would appear to have (at least) four choices: 1. Grin and bear it. Source Forge has so much else going for it. 2. Switch to Source Forge forums. Although they are more robust, you can receive via e-mail, as well as access via the web, but you can only post via the web. 3. Switch to Yahoogroups. This is perhaps the most comprehensive set of features to create an electronic community. 4. Switch to Google groups (check out http://groups.google.com/group/vista). -- Bhaskar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Greg Kreis Sent: Mon 10/3/2005 2:35 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:[Hardhats-members] Test This is a test from the Admin to see if the list is working again. -- Greg Kreis http://www.PioneerDataSys.com "You are today where your thoughts have brought you, you will be tomorrow where your thoughts take you." (James Lane Allen) --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails?
Well for Exchange, I might - just kidding Ruben, put the torch down. I think the key difference is: "Does the mail live within the domain or does it leave the walls guarding 'home'?" Home = the hospital's network within full control of the administrators. M (and RPC) is simply text based and light encryption is taking place. In this system, it's up to the network to use encryption at a lower [OSI] layer. Maybe it's called a "secure network" because you control the end points or you're using IPSEC within the network itself but I haven't seen industrial encryption between the client and server yet. In terms of email leaving the domain, it really has to do with the same problems everyone else has on the Internet. Digitally signing and encrypting email is a hard job. I mean, I use to have a PGP key on the end of every message I wrote up until a few years back - when it dawned on me that no one replied to me with it ;) What do other EMR vendors do? Does inter-department communication occur within their EMR offering? Is it encrypted? Is all EMR communication encrypted or do they consider the 'home network' "secure"? /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:49 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What will receive the incoming mails? And I don't think anyone is suggesting that Exchange be used for this purpose. You forget that VistA is used for a lot of other things having to do with the day to day operation of a medical center, too. Also, as a described in a separate message, it is somewhat misleading to think of it as a single application. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Prediction is difficult, especially of the future." --Niels Bohr On Sep 30, 2005, at 10:52 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > > that's not going to prevent, among other things, a standard exchange > security breech. I have friends in the IT department at NYUMC and > exchange is the nightmare they fight with most. > > Its just irresponsible to put sensitive email systems on exchange. > > Ruben > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Test for where is the Hardhats email since yesterday?
Sorry - I rolled my chair back and put a kink in the cable. All fixed now. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:03 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Test for where is the Hardhats email since yesterday? I don't think it was THAT quiet. At the time I sent that email, Saturday afternoon, it had been more than 24 hours since I had received a Hardhats email and I knew I was not the only one. At least this is a bit of that maybe it was just slow in getting delivered and not lost in cyberspace. On Sunday 02 October 2005 06:47 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I didn't get any either. I think it was a quiet weekend. Kevin On 10/1/05, Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > Nancy Anthracite > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging and file paths...
Well, if you control ACL completely - you control where and what folders and what rights. You also control files. Here's an example. Let's say Bob has to write to \\server\images\patient_1\iMedConsent\1\a\uro1.tif If you created a 0-byte file and allowed write only (modify) to that file, then he could write there. If all the other files are in a standing state of deny access, then he couldn't do a thing to those files. Once the client is done writing the file, he informs the system that "operation is complete" and the server will then return that file to the standing state of deny all rights. If a user needed to view a file, the system would RO that file for that one user in ACL and that's it. So you literally control file access using the file system and not a stream redirector (like what you have for RPC). Obviously controlling reads and writes to a central point using streams is much easier to manage but the above system is very plausible. In fact, fairly easy and safe. It would also be easy to implement given that every client out there speaks Windows SMB. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:06 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging and file paths... Even if you have shares that don't expose other parts of the network that you don't want exposed, doesn't it seem risky to allow clients to write into the image folder? What if they do something wrong and overwrite an existing file? It just seems that the files are vulnerable. Can you set up permissions so that you can add files, but not overwrite existing files? Thanks for you info... Kevin On 9/28/05, David Sommers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Nancy/Kevin/Others - been off the net a bit this last week, I'll get to > my backlog in the next couple days but I saw this message...] > > Kevin, I don't know what security is in place for client to server file > writes (or client-side reads) so I can't give a firm answer on what > VistA Imaging is doing... but I can tell you how other Windows > developers do it. > > There are many solutions and file path access is not a limitation of > Windows, just the developer's implementation of "security". Windows has > two sets of permissions when dealing with shares, the share permissions > and the underlying folder/file permissions. First and foremost, share > permissions trump file ACL (access control lists). So if the share says > RO (read only), even if you're an admin with full control - you can't > write to the share. > > As a developer of this particular situation, I have at least 3 options. > > 1) Control the ACL. Accessing and manipulating the file system is just > part of Windows, as it is with linux. It's not hard to restrict a > folder and/or file to any ACL for any SID (user/group identification). > The tricky part is making sure you treat it like multithreading - you > need to handle deadlocks, race conditions, and priority failures. > Deadlocks *as in* you're sitting around waiting for something > that doesn't happen. > Race conditions and priority failure *as in* reading before the > writing is done. > > 2) Control the stream. Similar to the symlink in linux, you can do ntfs > streams and virtual file writes depending on the platform you use. For > .NET, the easiest is to handle a file submission using a web service and > handle everything behind the scenes. Take in the parameters including > the file, return back a "virtual location" to access it in the future, > etc. > > 3) Drop box. This is what we do in iMedConsent at the VA. Our > documents are encrypted and each is accompanied with an encrypted XML > file. The XML file includes all the meta-data and the document is read > in with it. It's a WO (write only) folder so once you put it in there; > it's pretty much taken immediately. [We have a Windows Server on an > NTFS file watch so it does literally grab it once the file system > records it, there's no stupid polling or looping involved]. > > And of course you can take several variations of the above and get > creative beyond that. Kevin, your RPC method fits well into #2. > > As for the VA, don't quote me here, but I believe they're using option > #1 "sorta" by impersonating an NT user and using that user's credentials > to access the share/file. That way an "ordinary" user couldn't browse > the SMB shares and do as they please. > > And as Greg pointed out, E:\images\patientX\ could easily be > \\server
RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging and file paths...
[Nancy/Kevin/Others - been off the net a bit this last week, I'll get to my backlog in the next couple days but I saw this message...] Kevin, I don't know what security is in place for client to server file writes (or client-side reads) so I can't give a firm answer on what VistA Imaging is doing... but I can tell you how other Windows developers do it. There are many solutions and file path access is not a limitation of Windows, just the developer's implementation of "security". Windows has two sets of permissions when dealing with shares, the share permissions and the underlying folder/file permissions. First and foremost, share permissions trump file ACL (access control lists). So if the share says RO (read only), even if you're an admin with full control - you can't write to the share. As a developer of this particular situation, I have at least 3 options. 1) Control the ACL. Accessing and manipulating the file system is just part of Windows, as it is with linux. It's not hard to restrict a folder and/or file to any ACL for any SID (user/group identification). The tricky part is making sure you treat it like multithreading - you need to handle deadlocks, race conditions, and priority failures. Deadlocks *as in* you're sitting around waiting for something that doesn't happen. Race conditions and priority failure *as in* reading before the writing is done. 2) Control the stream. Similar to the symlink in linux, you can do ntfs streams and virtual file writes depending on the platform you use. For .NET, the easiest is to handle a file submission using a web service and handle everything behind the scenes. Take in the parameters including the file, return back a "virtual location" to access it in the future, etc. 3) Drop box. This is what we do in iMedConsent at the VA. Our documents are encrypted and each is accompanied with an encrypted XML file. The XML file includes all the meta-data and the document is read in with it. It's a WO (write only) folder so once you put it in there; it's pretty much taken immediately. [We have a Windows Server on an NTFS file watch so it does literally grab it once the file system records it, there's no stupid polling or looping involved]. And of course you can take several variations of the above and get creative beyond that. Kevin, your RPC method fits well into #2. As for the VA, don't quote me here, but I believe they're using option #1 "sorta" by impersonating an NT user and using that user's credentials to access the share/file. That way an "ordinary" user couldn't browse the SMB shares and do as they please. And as Greg pointed out, E:\images\patientX\ could easily be \\server\imageShare\patientX\ If you have IIS running, you'll note IIS also support virtual directories. You don't have to have you files in C:\inetpub\wwwroot\, but instead can have vdir links to other drivers (or even network shares) for serving up web resources. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:08 PM To: Hardhats Sourceforge Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging and file paths... This is a bit complicated, but hang with me here. BACKGROUND INFO - When you call RPC call: MAGGADDIMAGE, it looks in: IMAGING SITE PARAMETERS file (2006.1), field .03 (IMAGE NETWORK WRITE LOCATION), --> --> [ptr to NETWORK LOCATION (#2005.2). field 1 (PHYSICAL REFERENCE) This PHYSICAL REFERENCE field is supposed to name the physical location of the site to be written to. e.g. "\\ISWIMG01\SOMEDIR\MAGE1\". The MAGGADDIMAGE call, then uses this path to add to the image that should be uploaded. e.g.: \\ISWIMG01\SOMEDIR\MAGE1\ZZ01.JPG This full filename with path is then passed back to the windows client, and the client then saves the file to this path. COMMENT --- This seems like a risky way to do things. By giving the client access to the full path, it would give them opportunity to try other paths. It would be up to the server to then make sure it somehow security enabled on parent directories. I.e.: \\ISWIMG01\ <--- must be locked \\ISWIMG01\SOMEDIR\ <--- must be locked \\ISWIMG01\SOMEDIR\MAGE1\ZZ01.JPG <--- unlocked. I'm guessing windows allows this, but I don't know how to. And I wouldn't want to risk that I had missed some directory somewhere that was left unlocked. Then also I would have to consider that this would be server code that was trying to access the directories, and sometimes other server code would have a legitimate reason to accesss those directories. Best to avoid the issue I think. It seems that
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: VistA imaging on Windows server only??
Yes. If you type in c:/windows, explorer will flip it back around. If you do that in CMD, it'll think you're trying command-line arguments so it won't work. The trick is to verify that / is just as valid as \ when using the Win32 APIs which most apps translate to at some point. Unfortunately I have to jump into a meeting and I can't look it up. The Win32 API and SDKs are on MSDN and searchable. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:16 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: VistA imaging on Windows server only?? On 9/16/05, Mike Lieman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/15/05, Todd Berman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 18:45 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > > > I am (still) working on a document imaging etc. I had thought that I > > > would try to use as much of the existing server RPC's etc to avoid > > > re-inventing the wheel. > > > > > > But it looks like the use of "\" as a file path node separator > > > (instead of "/" used by linux/unix) is hard coded in. > > > > > The images are stored on a samba share, right? then the UNC should > work from any windows box. Perhaps that's why they went winders only. > Too lazy to have a $pathseparator variable? I'm not following you here. I just looked up UNC at this site: http://www.answers.com/topic/unc And it seems to indicate that a UNC can use either "/" or "\". So if "\" is hard coded into the VistA code, it will still only work with Windows. Right? Kevin --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: VistA installation and backups
Also check out what other services are provided by paying for it. EasyDNS provides their DNS services on top of domain registration/parking, full DNS record control, and mail backup. Mail backup is where if your mail server goes down, they'll receive email on your behalf and play them back to your mail server when it comes back up. Good for those weekend outages, maintenance/upgrades, or natural disasters. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:40 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: VistA installation and backups Take a look at EasyDNS. I use that to maintain my OpenSourceVistA.net file server on a dynamic IP and it works quickly and nicely. There are free alternatives which I have not tried as this was recommended by a trusted source, and he seem to have been correct! The failures have been my ISP or my server or my power, not EasyDNS. On Tuesday 13 September 2005 01:07 pm, Dr. Schrom wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Send Hardhats-members mailing list submissions to > hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Hardhats-members digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: Re: VistA installation and backups (Cameron Schlehuber) > 2. Re: VistA installation and backups (James Gray) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >From: "Cameron Schlehuber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: VistA installation and backups >Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:09:11 -0600 >Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > >Ah, but using KIDS to move what you mean to move means you always have a >record of what you've installed/changed in production. Better to know = >what >you've changed in production than to change something and forget what it >was! > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg >Kreis >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:30 PM >To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: VistA installation and backups > >Indeed.=A0 This seems the most ideal, but I guess there may be = >constraints >precluding this approach.=A0 If it was me, I'd definitely opt for this = >since >moving KIDs back and forth would be a sure way to 'forget something' and >then you spend time debugging what is not really supposed to be a = >problem. > >Kevin Toppenberg wrote:=20 >Why not create a secure connection so that you can work on the system >from home. I.e. via SSH? > >Kevin > > >On 9/12/05, K.S. Bhaskar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > =20 >Are you talking about VistA on GT.M or Cache (and I would presume >Windows vs. Linux for the latter). > >With GT.M, setting up a VistA configuration on one machine and moving it >another would be operationally trivial (you would need to presumably >rename the second machine). That's how I create the OpenVistA SemiVivA >releases. It takes a few minutes and a few shell commands, but that's >all. > >Taking a database + routines snapshot of a live (i.e., operational) >VistA machine (which I don't do) would also be pretty straightforward. > >-- Bhaskar > >On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 15:08 -0500, Dr. Schrom wrote: > =20 >If the release of VOE is 'on hold' (like Kevin's thought about big >money =20 >from private EMR vendors), I guess I'm going back to work on >installing =20 >FOIA VistA. Two questions I haven't found addressed in the archives: > >1. Is there a way to install VistA and then package that >installation =20 >and copy it to another machine? For example to install it on a >machine =20 >in my office but burn a disk to take the 'installation' home (or move >it =20 >to a laptop for the same purpose) to work on it at home, and do the =20 >reverse the next day? There are so many steps in configuring VistA >that =20 >I have not managed to replicate the same installation on two >different =20 >computers. I would like to keep the 'production' machine in one >place, =20 >but I'd get yelled at if I stayed in the office all night working on =20 >VistA, and I can't get much done be
RE: [Hardhats-members] Free EHR software is on hold
Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] Free EHR software is on hold Thank you for addressing the group. In the absence of information, sometimes the situation is exaggerated and people get frustrated. I would love to hear a project status on the next community call. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wark, Cynthia G. (CMS) Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 6:28 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Free EHR software is on hold Sorry - didn,t sign my name on the previous post: Cynthia Wark Deputy Director, Information Systems Group Office of Clinical Standards and Quality Centers for Medicare and Mediciad Services VOE Project Director -Original Message- From: Wark, Cynthia G. (CMS) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net' Sent: Sun Sep 11 18:25:22 2005 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Free EHR software is on hold Hardhats members: The review of VOE by the Secretary's office is fairly standard procedure. Anytime one of the HHS agencies gets ready to issue a press release, review by the Department is a given. In the case of VOE, it needs to be evaluated in the context of the larger HHS Health IT agenda which has certainly evolved since the project was launched by CMS last year. We value greatly the WorldVista community and all it has to contribute to this effort. We, (HHS, ONCHIT, CMS) need to be on the same page to give consistent messages and move forward together. I will be happy to give a summary of status at the next available opportunity - friday call this week or next ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sun Sep 11 16:33:21 2005 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Free EHR software is on hold I would expect that the documents, including email and other memos, surrounding the whole development and release of VO would themselves be available under FOIA. Is this the case? Ismet > VistA-Office ?is undergoing a review right now by the secretary?s office.? > You can?t download anything? now. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Default port for CPRS GUI client
And you should install SP2 on all XP machines ASAP. uPnP is no longer available to the network with SP2. Also note, MS changed the way all RPC calls (not Broker) work in SP2 so only authenticated users can access remote resources. (You used to be able to enumerate the target system to see what was available - that's no longer the case, you have to authenticate first.) SP2's been out for awhile, there's no reason why you shouldn't run it. It's like running an unpatched 2.4 *nix box - why?!? Technical note - the last vunerablitiy did affect SP2 but you have to read the mitigating fators to understand that only locally logged-in authenticated users have a chance of escilating their privelages. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/906574.mspx /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suchi Pande Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:54 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Default port for CPRS GUI client Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > Yes, I know. I've been the one given the responsibility in VHA to > "register" the ports being officially used in VHA. I'm taking up this issue > with folks in VA with more expertise than I have in this area. We may or > may not have to make some changes in VA. > > Just keep in mind the new HLO process that is coming out (HL*1.6*126) > requires port 5001 for live accounts and 5026 for test accounts; and > don't forget port 5000 is for HL7. > Incidentally, port 5000 is also used by windows Universal PnP, which is an XP service open by default (at least on earlier XPs). It's had its share of vulnerabilities. It can be shut down (by third party apps last time I looked, before the current patched XP). PJ --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: transfer-binary-data-via-RPCBroker
And that's the NT4 nomenclature. In AD (Windows Server 2000/2003), AD roles are different and there isn't a master PDC per-se. You have a Schema master and other master roles but they can be easily re-assigned. The key being that there's no single point of failure. In NT4, you could have a PDC go down and a BDC would be promoted but it could get "messy". Windows, in general, can hook into any LDAP compatible system. Linux can serve as one and Microsoft even ships a stand-alone AD network for those looking to implement LDAP without the infrastructure. It's called ADAM. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/adam/default.mspx For Linux: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LDAP-HOWTO/ http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/5050/1/ For Samba: http://www.idealx.org/prj/samba/smbldap-howto.en.html For Windows: Start -> Run -> dcpromo and follow the little wizard. You'll have a new domain in a couple minutes. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/S erverHelp/8b6b5d4d-1fe5-47ae-8773-7d47b2c47ac1.mspx /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Lieman Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:33 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: transfer-binary-data-via-RPCBroker On 9/6/05, Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you elaborate? What is a "Winders PDC"? Um... "Windows Primary Domain Controller". It's how Microsofties handle user databases, etc. Every Microsoft Windows "Domain" requires a central repository for that "Domain's" information. The Domain Controllers fill that role, and there are usually Primary and Backup Domain Controllers. OpenFiler can grab the user database from a domain controller, and therefore can authenticate windows users without additional work. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Spam filters and MUMPS (was: Installing on Windows XP: HOME DEVICE...)
Simply whitelist the domain (lists.sourceforge.net). It'll be hard for SF to fix it themselves unless they threw something on the bottom of every message that WASN'T an advertisment. You take pure Code (which isn't in a dictionary) + Newsletter Ad and it'll = SPAM. Combined with the fact that everyone's using a different type of filter - whether its web based (Yahoo/Gmail/etc), POP/IMAP based (Spamassassin/etc), Exchange (IMF/Outlook/etc), or pure-client driven (Cloudmark/IHateSpam/etc). There's no simple fix to cover all your bases. I just whitelist anything I want regardless. For Dialog Medical, we whitelist at the Exchange level our customer domains for the same reason (we don't want to miss a thing). At the client level, users can control their own white/black lists as well and that's where I stick my newsletter subscriptions. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 5:46 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Spam filters and MUMPS (was: Installing on Windows XP: HOME DEVICE...) I don't know how to fix it. I had to pull THIS message back out of a spam folder on GMail. Kevin On 9/7/05, Jim Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been finding email from this list consistently getting caught in the spam filters, > especially when it contains MUMPS code. I imagine that many subscribers to this list could > be losing messages like the one I am replying to because some overly zealous spam filter > stuck in the trash. Following are message headers added by sourceforge to this message. My > campus email system also appended similar warnings but with a higher spam score because it > didn't have the -2.7 white-list credit. > > Is it possible to get sourceforge to smarten up their scoring algorithm to not pick on > MUMPS in messages to this list. > > X-Spam-Score: 5.159 (*) BAYES_00,OBSCURED_EMAIL,UPPERCASE_25_50,WEIRD_QUOTING > X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. > See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. > Report problems to http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=21 > 3.2 OBSCURED_EMAIL BODY: Message seems to contain rot13ed address > 2.0 WEIRD_QUOTING BODY: Weird repeated double-quotation marks > 0.2 UPPERCASE_25_50message body is 25-50% uppercase > -2.7 AWLAWL: From: address is in the auto white-list > > James Lane wrote: > >Here's the script. > > > >I am still unable to >D ^ZU without the trouble screen. > > > >Thanks for your assistance. > > > >-James > > Script -- > >%ZOSV ;SFISC/AC - $View commands for Open M for NT. ;09/22/2004 11:56 > > ;;8.0;KERNEL;**34,94,107,118,136,215,293,284**;Jul 10, 1995 > ... > > > --- > Jim Self > Systems Architect, Lead Developer > VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis > (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] VOIP
I'm currently using two solutions. PBX: Our offices use Cbeyond (www.cbeyond.com) which is a unique service that binds (shotguns) voice and data over the same lines. I basically have a couple T1s at the office running Cisco routers between my office and theirs (well, the local station at the Telco). Then the VOIP is pulled off the data and placed into the traditional phone network. We can keep it VOIP within the network as well, but being a tradtional office with no remote locations - we're 100% hitting that outside line. Internally, we use Televantage (www.vertial.com) to manage phone resources - similar to other PBX packages and those listed earlier (Bayonne, etc). Pure VOIP: I use Skype with a phone adapter at home. The phone adapter announces itself to the Windows box as a proper sound device with both audio in and out sources. In Skype, you simply adjust where the mic and speaker resources are and any phone connected to the adapter will work. We use a multi-hand set phone so the entire house is "hooked up" thru a single phone line -> plugged into the adapetr -> plugged into the computer's USB -> using Skype IN/OUT. Skype IN gives you up to 6 local phone numbers for your Skype account. So if you want a "local number in France", it'll ring to your desk at the same time you can get a local number for Atlanta. That'll save toll charges for others calling you if you do business in other area codes. Other than that, I've had no problems with Skype IN or OUT recently. In the beginning, I spent $14 on a *cheap* adapter. Recently bought an Actiontec phone adapter that cost a bit more but worth every penny. http://www.actiontec.com/products/communications/ipw_usb/index.php You can find it fairly cheap on www.buy.com and www.amazon.com In terms of prices, well - the business grade PBX with T1s isn't "reasonable" for home use but the Skype is fairly cheap. Skype IN is a flat rate for the phone number and there's no per-minute change when someone calls you (so I try to have everyone call me). And, as mentioned earlier, it's about $0.02 USD for Skype OUT. Everything's in euros so you just have to convert it. If you calculate your standard phone bill by minute, you might save some (or for me, save about $30-40 USD). /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 12:28 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VOIP OK. I thought you were saying that you had free telephone service (connecting to POTS). I think that will always involve a fee. thanks Kevin On 9/5/05, Ruben Safir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephony > > This is why I let David set it up. I think I actually connect into > PSTN. That needs to be arrainged either with MaBell or perhaps Covad > > Ruben > > On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 10:46, Ruben Safir wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 10:40, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > Ask David Sugar. He set it up. > > > > > > Ruben > > > > > > On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 08:48, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > > > > Ruben, > > > > > > > > I just bought a telephone network adapter. It was $20 at Staples. I > > > > imagine it will convert my home telephone signal to IP. But if I want > > > > to call someone in another city, I would need someone to take my IP > > > > signal and connect it to the standard phone system. > > > > > > > > Actually, the system has a switch that connects it to regular POTS. The > > problem is getting into pots. It's VoIP inside the network or to other > > pure IP users. > > > > Ruben > > > > > > How does your open-source program do that? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > > > > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > > > > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > > > > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > > > > ___ > > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > > > > > -
RE: [Hardhats-members] I HAVE A QUESTION
Not to sound too harsh but Skype OUT is fairly cheap and can call US numbers. I'm actually 100% Skype at home having dropped my local Baby Bell (not really a Baby if their called B***South). If anything, you could team up with another Skype caller and have them dial out for the group (I think that works out to just the caller getting hit with S-OUT). David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Dal Molin Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 4:26 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] I HAVE A QUESTION Another option which allows unlimited participants is Teamspeak. Skype has a 4 or 5 person conference call limit. Teamspeak is multiplatform and we have it set up on the WorldVistA server. Joseph Thurman Pedigo wrote: > Skype sounds interesting. Absent objection, I think I can hook it up to > Skype broadcast the call from my telephone. Sorry I didn't get this earlier, > however, I can be prepared next time. > > thurman > > >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlos sosa sosa >>Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:16 PM >>To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net >>Subject: [Hardhats-members] I HAVE A QUESTION >> >>i read every day the posts in the forum, i'm thinking about the VistA >>Community Call, i understand that every are invited to join in the call, >>in >>my particular case that's it's imposible and i dont know maybe in some >>time >>we can use a software to do this conference maybe more people have the >>same >>problem, well, ny problem is that i don't have money to make a call to US, >>maybe if you dont want use a software system to make the call, maybe some >>one can write or make a trasncription about the topics in the conference >>and >>put on the forum, that way every body know what happend in the conference >>or >>call community,, >> >>tnks >>the software that i propose is http://www.skype.com >> >>pd. Viva la familia!!! >> >>_ >>Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! >>http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >> >> >> >>--- >>SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO >>September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle >>Practices >>Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA >>Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf >>___ >>Hardhats-members mailing list >>Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > . > --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA
The new PS3 by Sony is IBM made. The "Cell" technology is based off of the work done in PPC. In bigger news, Microsoft itself is using a new triple-core PPC design in their upcoming Xbox 360. And if that wasn't cool enough, the first dev kits for game developers were Macs running Windows (well, the Xbox OS is based off of Windows so I can generalize that statement a bit). :) More at: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6124293/p-3.html Excerpt: The Xbox 360 will have a custom-designed IBM processor that has three processing cores, each capable of handling two threads, or two separate applications. Six total threads provides a lot of processing power, but it adds to the software complexity, because you now have to manage resources between all the processes. [*snip*] The 165-million transistor chip will run at 3.2GHz, and it'll have a vacuum-sealed, water-cooled heat sink to handle heat dissipation. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Leo Zimmer Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:41 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA > However, the biggest volume of POWER architecture chips may not be > Mac computers. I understand that the Nintendo Gamecube may use a POWER > chip. Can someone confirm this? > * IBM PowerPC, 486 MHz * ATI graphics * 40 MB of total RAM * 8 cm optical drive * (optional) 10/100 Ethernet can run linux http://www.gc-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA
Whether or not Apple extends that to their platform on the x86 switchover is the statement. If they don't, someone else might. And I'm just more familiar with Solaris' efforts than FreeBSD (even though I run FreeBSD). David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 3:13 PM To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA FreeBSD already has a Linux compatible mode to run Linux binaries. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:49 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA A business reason has to exist for any company to spend money and resources on "something". I think asking Red Hat to build you something for your benefit is one thing and making a business case for it is another. In the case of GTM, you could look at it the same way the Fedora Community does - we do as we please and we build what we want for our favorite distro. (Well, the people in the community can do that - Red Hat still uses it as a test bed of new technologies). If you muster up enough developer resources yourself (business plan be damned), you too can build the missing OSX version. I would never fault Fidelity for the missing OSX version. Another key point that I've made in the past and that Jason Essington just made is Apple's shift to x86. If GTM has already been proven to work under BSD then the Apple port (under x86) should be fairly straightforward. You don't have to worry about the PPC architecture. In my previous email, I linked to the Apple's site detailing the architecture changes between standard BSD and their flavor of BSD. Another item that I hinted upon was Solaris' support for Linux binaries using a library compatibility layer. If Apple's smart (or a few enthusiasts do it for them), it would be possible to offer a linux binary compatibility layer between BSD and Linux. In another scenario, the Fink project gets really smart and they re-build the bins with little work outside of the source. However you slice it, the idea for OSX support isn't dead. A team can either do the port or wait until the x86 switch to see all the new possibilities. Personally, since the x86 is slated for next year - I would wait. Even if you ported it to the current OSX 10 on PPC - you'll have to do it AGAIN for the x86 switch. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:25 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA It's not the Mac per se. Lately, I haven't been terrible sanguine about running Linux and am much more interested in running OS X myself, but that's a different issue from whether a business case could be made for running on the platform. Philosophically, I wish there were more emphasis on building a product that could be run on a variety of platfroms (proprietary or open source) than on one particular platform, but I think that puts me in the minority here. Having said that, I certainly don't fault Fidelity for not making GT.M open source on platforms other than Linux. In fact, I was very concerned that my post would be taken as a criticism of Fidelity for just that reason. --- "K.S. Bhaskar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg -- > > Thank you for your comments, as well as all the support you provide > to > members of this forum. Let me respond to your inputs: > > GT.M has so few dependencies that it runs on every current release of > every major distribution of x86 GNU/Linux that I know of. It has > been > run on SuSE, Gentoo, Debian, Red Hat, Fedora, Slackware, Mandriva... > There are too many Linux distributions for us to keep running in > house > and hence to support. If you hear of a Linux distribution on which > it > doesn't run, please bring it to my attention. > > It is possible to get GT.M (and hence VistA) to run on *BSD on x86 > hardware (it has been reported as being done, and I previously posted > links). Sometimes I just have to make hard decisions about where > I/we > can spend the time providing support - since it not possible to even > keep up with Linux distributions. > > There is already GT.M for S
RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA
A business reason has to exist for any company to spend money and resources on "something". I think asking Red Hat to build you something for your benefit is one thing and making a business case for it is another. In the case of GTM, you could look at it the same way the Fedora Community does - we do as we please and we build what we want for our favorite distro. (Well, the people in the community can do that - Red Hat still uses it as a test bed of new technologies). If you muster up enough developer resources yourself (business plan be damned), you too can build the missing OSX version. I would never fault Fidelity for the missing OSX version. Another key point that I've made in the past and that Jason Essington just made is Apple's shift to x86. If GTM has already been proven to work under BSD then the Apple port (under x86) should be fairly straightforward. You don't have to worry about the PPC architecture. In my previous email, I linked to the Apple's site detailing the architecture changes between standard BSD and their flavor of BSD. Another item that I hinted upon was Solaris' support for Linux binaries using a library compatibility layer. If Apple's smart (or a few enthusiasts do it for them), it would be possible to offer a linux binary compatibility layer between BSD and Linux. In another scenario, the Fink project gets really smart and they re-build the bins with little work outside of the source. However you slice it, the idea for OSX support isn't dead. A team can either do the port or wait until the x86 switch to see all the new possibilities. Personally, since the x86 is slated for next year - I would wait. Even if you ported it to the current OSX 10 on PPC - you'll have to do it AGAIN for the x86 switch. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:25 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA It's not the Mac per se. Lately, I haven't been terrible sanguine about running Linux and am much more interested in running OS X myself, but that's a different issue from whether a business case could be made for running on the platform. Philosophically, I wish there were more emphasis on building a product that could be run on a variety of platfroms (proprietary or open source) than on one particular platform, but I think that puts me in the minority here. Having said that, I certainly don't fault Fidelity for not making GT.M open source on platforms other than Linux. In fact, I was very concerned that my post would be taken as a criticism of Fidelity for just that reason. --- "K.S. Bhaskar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg -- > > Thank you for your comments, as well as all the support you provide > to > members of this forum. Let me respond to your inputs: > > GT.M has so few dependencies that it runs on every current release of > every major distribution of x86 GNU/Linux that I know of. It has > been > run on SuSE, Gentoo, Debian, Red Hat, Fedora, Slackware, Mandriva... > There are too many Linux distributions for us to keep running in > house > and hence to support. If you hear of a Linux distribution on which > it > doesn't run, please bring it to my attention. > > It is possible to get GT.M (and hence VistA) to run on *BSD on x86 > hardware (it has been reported as being done, and I previously posted > links). Sometimes I just have to make hard decisions about where > I/we > can spend the time providing support - since it not possible to even > keep up with Linux distributions. > > There is already GT.M for Sun SPARC Solaris, HP PA-RISC HP-UX, and HP > Alpha/AXP OpenVMS. However, it is not open source free software (it > is > more traditionally licensed, and always more reasonably priced than > alternatives, but not free). I would be happy to make available > VistA > on GT.M on any of those, or other supported, platforms on a free > trial > license to anyone who wants to evaluate it, but ultimately a GT.M > license will need to be purchased. [Yes, go ahead, question my > sanity. > Why do I so vigorously advocate GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux where there is > no > license revenue? Sometimes my management does too...] > > Since we have a GT.M for IBM pSeries AIX, it would be easy for us to > provide a GT.M for Mac OS X if there is a market demand. But I can't > make a credible business case to my executive management for an open > source free GT.M on Mac OS X. If anyone feels that they could deploy > a > reasonable number of VistA systems on Mac OS X, please contact me off > line. > > I think that covers all
RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA
Obviously I wrote that email in two sessions... Restate that as: If you look for "GTM on OSX" in the archives, we covered much on this subject already (and that was just 2 weeks ago). David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:03 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA If you look for in the archives for "GTM on OSX", we covered many of the same things already (and that was just 2 weeks ago). /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Essington Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:46 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: K.S. Bhaskar Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA With Apple's pending architecture change from PPC to Intel, perhaps a GT.M version for OS X wouldn't be that different than from an i86 BSD version. We are already supporting several clinics in rural Wyoming, and are preparing a proposal to add OpenVista as an EMR solution for them. Since we are already a Mac shop, running the server components on OS X would be ideal for us, but again, our install base wouldn't be that large, so I suppose there'd have to be much more interest from the community before an OS X version would be feasible. -jason On Aug 31, 2005, at 8:26 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > Since we have a GT.M for IBM pSeries AIX, it would be easy for us to > provide a GT.M for Mac OS X if there is a market demand. But I can't > make a credible business case to my executive management for an open > source free GT.M on Mac OS X. If anyone feels that they could > deploy a > reasonable number of VistA systems on Mac OS X, please contact me off > line. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA
If you look for in the archives for "GTM on OSX", we covered many of the same things already (and that was just 2 weeks ago). /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Essington Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:46 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: K.S. Bhaskar Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA With Apple's pending architecture change from PPC to Intel, perhaps a GT.M version for OS X wouldn't be that different than from an i86 BSD version. We are already supporting several clinics in rural Wyoming, and are preparing a proposal to add OpenVista as an EMR solution for them. Since we are already a Mac shop, running the server components on OS X would be ideal for us, but again, our install base wouldn't be that large, so I suppose there'd have to be much more interest from the community before an OS X version would be feasible. -jason On Aug 31, 2005, at 8:26 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > Since we have a GT.M for IBM pSeries AIX, it would be easy for us to > provide a GT.M for Mac OS X if there is a market demand. But I can't > make a credible business case to my executive management for an open > source free GT.M on Mac OS X. If anyone feels that they could > deploy a > reasonable number of VistA systems on Mac OS X, please contact me off > line. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA
I believe we need to drive for the requirements first. What is the "intent" or the target audience of VivA? Is it as a method for easy installation that leads to production use, or easy instance that leads to demonstration? With the former, building a RPM or installable package is a favorable route. With the latter, then the puppy or Live CD route seems logical. I'm a Fedora/Gentoo/FreeBSD person (and SUSE again once they release the community version), so you'll be hard pressed to support each and every single one of those on the get-go. It may be easier to build out the Semi version in this scenario. For the doctor that doesn't know much about VistA (but a little bit about Windows and a little bit more about linux), then I think the Live CD or "demo on demand" system should work well. If you then opt to go with an install on your favorite distro, is that where Semi does its thang? /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:29 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA I assume your basic goal is to come up with something like a turn key solution. Is that a fair assumption? Going back to the network effect message, I don't know that marrying your solution to Debian, Knoppix, Red Hat, or what have you is the right way to go. It will be easier to get user "buy in" if the users feel they can use their favorite Linux distribution (or, while we're at it: What about Solaris, HP/UX, OS X, (Free|Open|Net)BSD, OpenDarwin, OpenVMS, or even Windows)? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] "A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli On Aug 30, 2005, at 6:16 PM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > Please provide some guidance about future releases of OpenVistA VivA. > > I have thus far used Knoppix (http://knopper.net/knoppix/index- > en.html) > as the basis for OpenVistA VivA FOIA Gold releases, and Morphix > (http://morphix.org) as the basis for OpenVistA VivA releases. The > former releases are live DVD images that amount to just under 1GB, and > the latter are live CD images. > > Morphix is not under as active development as I would like in a base > Linux live CD, so I think it's time to move on. > > Effective V4, Knoppix has expanded to over 3GB. Creating OpenVistA > VivA > releases based on Knoppix V4 would mean releases of over 3.5GB - they > would still fit on a DVD, but the download durations would more than > triple. But, an OpenVistA VivA based on Knoppix would have much > visual > appeal, and would show Linux in favorable light. [Also, since ftp is > unreliable for files of more than 2GB, one would have to use wget or > rsync to get the files - of course, this is not really an issue.] > > At the other extreme, is Damn Small Linux (http://damnsmalllinux.org). > Sans VistA, this distribution is small enough to fit onto a business > card sized CD. With VistA, the download would be around 220MB. An > OpenVistA VivA based on DSL would be small, fast and functional. > > There are many other Linux live CDs between these two extremes. > > So, what would the members of the VistA community like? I can > continue > the current strategy of keeping OpenVistA VivA to a live CD and > staying > with Knoppix for OpenVistA VivA FOIA Gold live DVD releases. I can > use > a single base system, and I can stay small or go with the kitchen > sink. > > Also, how about the forthcoming (once CMS releases the software) > OpenVistA VivA Office EHR? > > Please let me know what you want, so that I can serve you better > (yes, I > know that ultimately I will do what I think is best, but I really will > consider all inputs). Thank you very much. > > -- Bhaskar > > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle > Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * > Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/ > bsce5sf > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Man
RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA
I would be very open to investigating running under Windows while we still have this dependency on CPRS. Having a single system demo is very very useful. Plus I'm all for dogfooding a puppy as well. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suchi Pande Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA K.S. Bhaskar wrote: > Please provide some guidance about future releases of OpenVistA VivA. > At the other extreme, is Damn Small Linux (http://damnsmalllinux.org). > Sans VistA, this distribution is small enough to fit onto a business > card sized CD. With VistA, the download would be around 220MB. An > OpenVistA VivA based on DSL would be small, fast and functional. > Fairly similar in size are puppy linux and colinux. I am particularly interested in qemu/puppy (http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/index.html) and colinux (http://www.colinux.org) which run at the same time as windows xp off a usb flashdrive without a reboot of ms windows. So you could put it together with vista on a 256 MB flashdrive for your own convenience. colinux currently has the advantage of looking to the LAN like a spare linux box with its own ip address using a TAP device, though the next version is going to use slirp, which is simpler. Puppy is an amazingly well-put-together-for-such-a-small-footprint distribution. It is free but not Free in parts. colinux is better integrated with windows, but more alpha. puppy would need to be tortured a bit to work with TAP or slirp. I would suggest you look into torturing a puppy, it looks like it would be fun. PJ --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M
I generalized non-interactive process to daemon. I haven't used GTM nearly as much as I would like but I understand your POV. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K.S. Bhaskar Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:23 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M David -- GT.M is unusual among database engines in that it does not have a database daemon. This avoids a potential single point bottleneck and/or source of failure. Also, compared to database engines where a daemon runs as root, system security is a little better since processes that must access the database run with normal user and group ids. -- Bhaskar On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 16:56 -0500, David Sommers wrote: > You could verify the GTM daemon by trying to access Apache or > something > similar on your linux box to verify it on the network. If Apache (or > FTP) is "slow", then concentrate your efforts on the box. If Apache > (or > FTP) is fast, then concentrate on GTM. > > And what are the licensing options for Cache on Linux? Is there a > 1-user runtime to help validate system or application? > > /David. > > > David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M
You could verify the GTM daemon by trying to access Apache or something similar on your linux box to verify it on the network. If Apache (or FTP) is "slow", then concentrate your efforts on the box. If Apache (or FTP) is fast, then concentrate on GTM. And what are the licensing options for Cache on Linux? Is there a 1-user runtime to help validate system or application? /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orion Richardson Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:46 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M Thanks all for such quick responses. You are correct in assuming that the network setup woudl be different, but the speed was so noticably different and I'd used the VistA demo from the VA with better performance than my linux machine with the same CPRS location. That seemed weird. Here's how I have it setup: In the Linux case I'm running CPRS on a laptop (over 802.11b, so 11 mb) connecting to the Linux box which is wired with 100 mb. They are both on the same hub. In the Windows case I'm using the same server machine (dual booting, since I'm just testing right now) again connected with 100 mb. I'm also using CPRS on that same machine, since the free Cache license I have won't support requests other than localhost (I think? If not, please let me know!) What I thought was unusual is that I could connect to the VA demo VistA instance at http://www1.va.gov/CPRSdemo/ and get better results than I did with the linux box. I think options are to: 1. Try the Linux Cache version as someone suggested and see if this makes any difference 2. Maybe try CPRS from the laptop for Windows/Cache if that is allowed with my limited license The performance was so rough that I was even tempted to dive into the separate GT.M-mounted-partition stuff that I read about some where... Thanks again, Orion --- Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M versus Windows/Cache... From: "K.S. Bhaskar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:55:03 -0400 Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net I think Kevin & Greg are right on the right track that the differences are caused by network configurations, but it would help to narrow things down. Especially on an unloaded server, which is what I suspect Orion is running, I would expect no perceptible difference between different MUMPS implementations. Orion, please tell us the details of the configurations you are comparing. Is the difference in establishing the initial connection or in subsequent accesses? What sort of firewall are you running on the two operating systems? Have you tried Cache on Linux? -- Bhaskar --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: All about programming
Don't forget about generics.
http://www.artima.com/intv/generics.html
/David.
David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical
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Safir
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A polymorphic function is one which changes its behavior depending on
the type and number arguments it receives. It's useful because it is
easier for the stupid humans to remember the Application programming
interface. With polymorphism and operator overloading, you can do some
amazing tricks for the stupid humans.
At its most fundamental level a function and accessory function might
behave like this
bird->species("Bluejay"); #One Arguement is sent. The species has been
set to Bluejay through method "species" which might also cause this
instance of your object to change its color, size and other
charactoristics
$what_kind = bird->species; #no arguements
print $what_kind; #stdout is BlueJay
Ruben
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 16:43, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> On 8/25/05, Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How do you achieve polymorphic behavior? A few ideas occur to me
such
> > as having a "CREATE" operator that sets the methods to the
appropriate
> > implementations for the runtime type. Another is to maintain a table
of
> > object IDs and classes and always have methods invoked through a
common
> > dispatch manager, but nothing really seems very clean.
>
> I am no OO expert. But I think that polymorphic behavior means that
> if you have an object heirarchy like this:
> Bird
> +- Jay
>+-Blue
> +-Gray
>
> And then having two objects, one Gray and one Blue, placed into
> variables p1 and p2. Then calling a ".chirp" function, would evoke
> two separate functions--assuming that the two objects had been given
> different chirp functions.
>
> Assuming that my understanding is correct, then I would probably set
> up my "object" by creating the parent object, then calling the setup
> procedure for each subsequent child in turn (i.e. merging the array
> first with the parent object). Child functions would then overwrite
> the parent's. Thus one might end up with an array-object that looks
> like this
>
> Bird("sClass")="Aves"
> Bird("bCanFly")=1
> Bird("fncChirp")="w ""squawk"",!"
>
> Jay("sClass")="Aves"
> Jay("sFamily")="Corvidae"
> Jay("sOrder")="Passeriformes"
> Jay("bCanFly")=1
> Jay("fncChirp")="" <-- no behavior here.
>
> BlueJay("sClass")="Aves"
> Bl;ueay("sFamily")="Corvidae"
> BlueJay("sOrder")="Passeriformes"
> BlueJay("sSpecies")="Cyanocitta"
> BlueJay("bCanFly")=1
> Bird("fncChirp")="w ""Jeer Jeer"",!
>
> GrayJay("sClass")="Aves"
> GrayJay("sFamily")="Corvidae"
> GrayJay("sOrder")="Passeriformes"
> GrayJay("sSpecies")="Perisoreus"
> GrayJay("bCanFly")=1
> Bird("fncChirp")="w ""Ge-att Ge-att"",!"
>
> Then when I do this:
>
> p(1)=$name(GrayJay)
> p(2)=$name(BlueJay)
>
> I can then use:
> for i=1:1:2 xecute @p(i)@("fncChirp")
>
> Jeer Jeer
> Ge-att Ge-att
>
> I think this shows how inheritence and polymorphism can be
> implemented. But again, my teminology may be off.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> >
> > Anyway, I remember that, and I think it's a good idea.
> >
> > --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > A while back I posted code that used globals to store object-like
> > > data. Once can put functions (or references to functions) into a
> > > string (stored in the object) and then executed with the "xecute"
> > > command.
> > >
> > > Thus one could shoe-horn object orientated behavior from M
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ===
> > Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > "Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can
ensure
> > failure."
> >
> > --Kent Beck
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
RE: [Hardhats-members] VOE and a database to run it. WAS: last value in Y from GETENV
That's just the clarification that I was looking for. It sounded as though VOE just could not and did not work on the demo license. I can get the FOIA VistA to work just fine (using instructions found online) but it wasn't clear if VOE needed the same adjustments or simply did not work. Let's say that I grab VOE when it's available and install it locally. With CacheWeb running CPRS using local connections and a local telnet, I should have no technical or legal reason why this setup would fail - right? If the answer is "Yes David, there's no reason that it wouldn't work given the same special considerations you would take in FOIA VistA" then I'll be happy as a clam. (Or any animal that is unmistakably happy by nature - happy happy clam). /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert DeWayne Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:44 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VOE and a database to run it. WAS: last value in Y from GETENV Sorry I wasn't more specific, yes VOE will run on the free version of Cache (Cacheweb), but the CPRS GUI will not function. Since the CPRS GUI is what everyone wants to test, then for all practical purposes VOE will not function correctly. The terminal capability will function and therefore the roll and scroll side will work. A great deal of the functionality that VOE incorporates, such as templates and reminders, are more GUI based so looking at the software without the GUI won't show many enhancements. We have been told that if you want to test the VOE software, Intersystems will likely produce a 5 user version that will help you see the strengths of the software. Hope this is a better explanation than before. Robert DeWayne Technical Lead VOE (VistA Office EHR) Daou Systems, Inc. P: (317) 616-4745 C:(317) 727-7477 www.daou.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Monger Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VOE and a database to run it. WAS: last value in Y from GETENV Unimaginable? No. A single user license is not going to get you full functionality, however I've run FOIA VistA on the free license, and VistA Office should work about the same. I didn't have much trouble, but then I didn't try to do much beyond a little development and testing. If you just want one user to get in and play around, you can probably get by with the free license. I think telnet will only work on the loopback address. I believe the main issue will be how many processes you'll be able to start. I think it's a good idea to contact the vendor. Ask them for a free license that will run it. They will probably give you one. -Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:04 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] VOE and a database to run it. WAS: last value in Y from GETENV That seems unimaginable! In order to test the waters, you have to contact a vendor? I know everyone here is shooting for vendor neutrality but I would like to take a small journey down the "implementing VOE" path. Let's pretend that I have a third-world country (or a friend named Bob) that I would like to help. In the past, I could point them over to (or assist in) setting up Cache/GTM on the server and CPRS on the client. No money down and we can get our feet wet. If I can't use Cache single-user demo, is there a small workgroup edition or something simple to purchase? The reason why I say 'simple' is because I can't find a single "buy now" or "price list" at intersystems.com. I'm sure I have to call a salesman but when I visit Microsoft at http://www.microsoft.com/sql/default.mspx, the "How to Buy" link is second down on the left. At Oracle, the Store link is at the top. Did I miss something? Shouldn't it be this easy to get the technology into place? On that note, has GTM been tested with VOE? This is not an open-source vs free vs commercial argument. My point is that we should ensure that VistA is accessible to all those interested. My question is - how do I install VOE? I know VOE isn't available yet - this is in advance of the release. What can this community can do to assist in making it easily accessible? /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert DeWayne Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 10:50 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] last value in Y from GETENV Cacheweb is a single licens
[Hardhats-members] VOE and a database to run it. WAS: last value in Y from GETENV
That seems unimaginable! In order to test the waters, you have to
contact a vendor?
I know everyone here is shooting for vendor neutrality but I would like
to take a small journey down the "implementing VOE" path.
Let's pretend that I have a third-world country (or a friend named Bob)
that I would like to help. In the past, I could point them over to (or
assist in) setting up Cache/GTM on the server and CPRS on the client.
No money down and we can get our feet wet.
If I can't use Cache single-user demo, is there a small workgroup
edition or something simple to purchase? The reason why I say 'simple'
is because I can't find a single "buy now" or "price list" at
intersystems.com. I'm sure I have to call a salesman but when I visit
Microsoft at http://www.microsoft.com/sql/default.mspx, the "How to Buy"
link is second down on the left. At Oracle, the Store link is at the
top. Did I miss something? Shouldn't it be this easy to get the
technology into place?
On that note, has GTM been tested with VOE?
This is not an open-source vs free vs commercial argument. My point is
that we should ensure that VistA is accessible to all those interested.
My question is - how do I install VOE?
I know VOE isn't available yet - this is in advance of the release.
What can this community can do to assist in making it easily accessible?
/David.
David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical
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Cacheweb is a single license version of Cache, VistaOffice (VOE) will
not work with this version.
Robert DeWayne
Technical Lead VOE (VistA Office EHR)
Daou Systems, Inc.
P: (317) 616-4745 C:(317) 727-7477
www.daou.com
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:42 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hardhats-members] last value in Y from GETENV
I have configuration questions that will require examples from
VistaOffice.
Once a configuration of some flavor of Vista is OK for tinkering with, I
don't linger on issues like the box aka machine aka node (in some
texts).
But I am a little obsessed with where the last piece of the Y string
comes from after it has been set in that famous reference exercise:
D GETENV^%ZOSV
W Y
Here is output from a new install of VistaOffice beta:
EHR>D GETENV^%ZOSV W !,Y
EHR^EHR^HPLAP^EHR:CACHEWEB
Since I want the machine name for my laptop to remain "hplap" for other
uses , This string Y should be "configured" to return:
EHR^EHR^HPLAP^EHR:HPLAP
and this is supposed to be done (I thought) by editing the entry in
Taskman Site Parameters. Conveniently, there is only one entry in the
fresh install, but it's solitary entry name name is not "
EHR:CACHEWEB"
and it doesnt contain "EHR:CACHEWEB" as a field entry.
So where is the last piece of Y ("CACHEWEB") coming from?
If I look in the code, I am *overwhelmed* with %1 defined by:
%1=$ZU(86),%1=$S(%<3.1:$P(%1,"*",3),1:$P(%1,"*",2))
If I go to Taskman Site Parameters in Fileman here is what lives there.
(I'll use Edit mode for Inquiring) because the verbose ?? help shows how
the last piece has *nothing* to do with what is stored in this single
entry for TaskSiteParam:
Select OPTION: ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES
INPUT TO WHAT FILE: TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS// EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL//
Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ??
EHR:CACHE
You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish
The value for the current account is EHR:CACHEWEB Your answer should
be the volume set name concatenated with ":"
concatenated with the name of the CPU.
The value for the current process can be found by doing
GETENV^%ZOSV
and checking the fourth ^-piece of Y. This allows the TaskMan
site parameters to be applied extremely precisely, depending both upon
which volume set and cpu which is affected.
Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: `1 EHR:CACHE BOX-VOLUME
PAIR: EHR:CACHE//
RESERVED:
LOG TASKS?: NO//
DEFAULT TASK PRIORITY: 7//
TASK PARTITION SIZE: 100//
SUBMANAGER RETENTION TIME: 20//
TASKMAN JOB LIMIT: 100//
TASKMAN HANG BETWEEN NEW JOBS: 5//
MODE OF TASKMAN: GENERAL PROCESSOR//
VAX DSM ENVIROMENT FOR DCL:
OUT OF SERVICE: NO//
MIN SUBMANAGER CNT: 1// ^
Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ^ Select OPTION:
Maybe I am supposed to be asking where the value for "CPU" lives which
has a context called "account" by whoever wrote the ??help. The help
gives a contextual citation of this same value ...where does it live?
Must i
RE: GTM on OSX WAS: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions
I believe the issue was related to compiler specific "optimizations" in the C implementation of the M compiler. Bhaskar's been quiet lately but we've discussed this on the list before. I was interested because I simply love my MAC. Even though I'm about to paste in part of the discussion to port, I think we should just wait. Apple will switch to x86 next year and they will more than likely follow in the footsteps of Sun - by providing a run-time library that can execute linux compiled code natively. On top of that, FreeBSD so closely matches that Apple documents the differences easily enough to scope the port: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Conceptual/KernelProgram ming/BSD/chapter_11_section_3.html Here's a piece of our previous discussion... -- On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 01:46 -0500, chuck5566 wrote: > Agree wholeheartedly, Chris. I would suggest: > > 1st - Determining that level of interest, and where it's at. > Are people really interested in a GT.M for OS X, > or would clients on OS X that could converse > with GT.M and the RPC broker (on a Linux box > elsewhere) be enough? Or both? > Might be time for a "Hardhats-OSX" list. [KSB] Since there is a GT.M (non open source; non free) for IBM eServer pSeries (nee RS/6000) AIX, a port to Mac OS X from this would be straightforward, but would need to be performed by Fidelity. A port to Mac OS X from GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux (open source & free) would require retargeting the M compiler (the database would just go over, since it vanilla UNIX for the most part). So, creating a client would be almost as much work as porting GT.M. > 2nd - If the interest for GT.M on OS X is sufficient, I'd first > straighten out the legalities before starting any > work or even looking for funding. > > Chuck GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux is released under the GNU General Public License (GPL). If it is used to port GT.M to Mac OS X by anyone other than Fidelity, then the resulting work would be covered by the GPL, and is best released under the GPL. -- Bhaskar -- David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:15 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions No, the issue is that it's necessary to compile MUMPS (not C). In principle, there's no reason why it can't be done. --- Ruben Safir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unlike GT.M, it does not generate machine language in > > compiling MUMPS source routines so I would expect no special > surprizes due to the shift > > from X86 on FreeBSD to PPC on OS/X. > > > > Why can't the complier generate the correct machine code for the RISK > ? > Is binary outputs embedded into the source code of GM.T? > > Ruben > > > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle > Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing > & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > === Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure." --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: more M read questions
Rsync is part of the SAMBA project. So - it essentially uses SMB (Windows file sharing). Your initial comment was that you didn't want to use file sharing because it couldn't be easily tunneled over RPC. I think the recommendation was made out of context. The context is: I want to tunnel a file over RPC or some other point-to-point method. If SMB/Samba is not the option you want (which is what you stated), then rsync doesn't work. Rsync is an APPLICATION that uses SMB to sync files. You should shoot for something like FTP or build it straight into your application (as Base64 conversion, etc). The application that you use for FTP is up to you and your implementation. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: more M read questions I am already using rsync to upload my backup data to our Windows server, and include VistA data with our financial data backup. But I still don't see how I would incorporate that into an image viewer that needs to request a specific file from a server. Kevin On 8/21/05, Ruben Safir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 18:50 -0400, David Sommers wrote: > > Rsync is a tool used to synchronize or replicate files. In terms of > > sending a single file from server to client upon request, a tool is > > not > > recommended but a protocol. Whether it be Secure FTP, BitTorrent, > > SMB, > > or the like. > > This is largely semantics. A protocol without a tool is useless. In > fact, the tool near always predates the protocol. The protocol is > defined by the tool makers once it becomes popular. > > Use rsync. Whatever protocol it uses, which is actually some kind of > incremental crypto fingerprinting, it runs fast as hell, uses minimum > bandwidth, and is free software. > > Ruben > > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions
Kevin, it may be easier to encode the binary into a subset of ASCII/ANSI that is supported by M "string". There are many definitions on what a string *is* depending on the language and system - but I'm sure you can find a codeset that fits. Base64 in the worse case. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Safir Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] more M read questions On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 15:13 -0400, smcphelan wrote: > Here, here. Chris also stated this. ANSI standard M is not really designed > to handle binary data. This is one reason Intersystems added extensions (if > you wish to call it that). But then you are bound to a specific M vendor's > implementation, in this case, Cache. > This is all beyond me because all data is just data. ASCI, Binary, all the same thing. No matter how you look at it, a byte can only have one of 256 representations. The rest is all interpretation. Ruben --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: more M read questions
Rsync is a tool used to synchronize or replicate files. In terms of sending a single file from server to client upon request, a tool is not recommended but a protocol. Whether it be Secure FTP, BitTorrent, SMB, or the like. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruben Safir Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: more M read questions On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 14:19 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > Thanks Ruben, > > Are any of these options something that could be put into a $Windoze > client so that it could securely request images from server, or would > it involve setting up an environment for the client to run int? > I'm not sure. I haven't used a Windows computer in about 15 years. google rsync and windows I guess. But rsync is a miracle. Ruben > Thanks > Kevin > > > On 8/21/05, Ruben Safir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 13:42 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > > > Hmm... if I had an ftp server, I would want to be sure that only those > > > authorized to request a file were sent the file. Perhaps I need to > > > look more into the secure FTP options > > > > rsync through ssh or FreeSWan... > > > > > > > > --- > > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > > ___ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA GPL
I may have missed a thread or message... Was there an instance where Medsphere capitalized on something that we had under GPL? If your comment is in regards to the work done under FOIA / Public Domain, then I believe it's in Medsphere's rights to continue that work in a non-OSS format and profit from it. Many of us may see the virtues of free and open source to benefit man kind (etc, etc) but freedom and freewill allow profiting when it is legal. Utilizing the VistA FOIA as a basis for non-OSS enhancements is perfectly legal and I would not argue their intentions. One could spend their life convincing others that doing something else is "the right way" or "better" but that doesn't mean the current way is wrong. It's just different. If, however, something held under GPL was enhanced and not released back into the open - then there should be a public outcry and legal action taken. /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Trotter Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:26 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA GPL Hi, I remember listening in on a Hardhats con-call recently about using the GPL for more and more parts of VistA. Given Stallmans appearance on the last call I wondered if this might be an appropriate time to bring the issue up. For me this is a central issue. The GPL provides the medical community with protection from software vendors that it simply cannot get elsewhere. I have started a site, GPLmedicine.org where I argue that the GPL is the only moral license for medical software. The keep-it-free nature of the GPL is central to forward progress in healthcare. I think the relatively unclear position of Medspheres "version" of VistA is a pretty good example of why it is important to keep-it-free. I personally think the people who have been working on improving VistA for most of their adult lives might resent Medsphere hoarding its improvements to their life work. Am I wrong? I am definitely a peripheral member of this community, but I am think this is a critical issue for everyone in Open Source software. Is there any consensus about this issue within the VistA community? Please feel free to simply point me to a prior discussion. Regards, Fred Trotter --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] New Forum available
Although the threaded forum format is something I would rather use. I personally like vBulletin (PHP) or Community Server (ASP.NET) over phpBB (PHP) that is in use at that site. But execution is more important. I just don't want the feature lacking phpBB to "turn off" users who would otherwise embrace newer forms of communication. Just don't throw away forums because newsletters work. Forums could simply be better. I, for one, believe that the information will be better formatted (categorized), received (threaded), processed (readable), and archived (searchable). http://www.vbulletin.com/ http://communityserver.org /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:41 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] New Forum available Others have been asked as well, me among them, and declined as I did not want to see the community split among too many sites. It is hard enough getting any traffic on the second email list recently started. On Tuesday 16 August 2005 05:47 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > Has anyone seen this site? > > http://vistaoffice-ehr.com/ > > I think it looks promising. It is a web-interfaced, threaded forum > that could become quite helpful if helpful people will use it. It is > hosted by Interdirected, Inc. I have been asked by Michael "Q" > Quattlebaum to help moderate it. > > With my permission, he moved my geocities website to : > http://kdtop.vistaoffice-ehr.com/ > > I will soon be hiding my content at geocities and redirecting it to > this new URL. > > Kevin > > P.S. > I have no connection with Interdirected > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Server Message Block (SMB)
Remember, GTM doesn't run on Mac - only Cache. And there's no CPRS replacement, yet, so don't count on somebody writing a Cocoa/Carbon app on Mac instead of Mono/Mozilla for *nix (to be used everywhere else). I write with XCode (Mac) and that's not nearly as RAD and cross-platform as Mono or Mozilla. I'd put $2 into Mono development over XCode any day. VPC works fine if the system is beefy enough. I recommend building up a Windows Terminal Server and using Remote Desktop (there's a native Microsoft RDC client) to connect and utilize server resources. That would save resources from being used locally for the simple need of touching CPRS. Unfortunately I can't convince my wife that the 30" flat panel on my G5 is a "need" and not a dream. *drool* David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jae kim Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 9:19 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Server Message Block (SMB) Rusty, Even with VirtualPC licenses, the overhead will be too heavy. Maybe having all Mac network (Mac in each office) and build a complete Mac-VistA system managed by NetInfo. New GUI could be created with Mac's Interface Builder for Macintosh graphics. That means no need for Windows, yes! Jae. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Server Message Block (SMB)
Samba's built into MAC so it'll have no problems accessing or serving up files. I'm accessing mine via XP and no problems with linux-to-MAC either (or FreeBSD for that matter since I run that at home). You'll need SMB to access the images but the real question is CPRS since it is Windows. What type of setup are you looking for? Server (MAC): Cache for VistA back-end and/or OSIRIX. Client (MAC): ORIRIX Client (WIN): CPRS I'm assuming you're thinking about running OSIRIX from the same system as the Cache DB, that saves you a box. But what about CPRS and dealing with patient lookups, etc. Are you thinking Virtual PC for OSX? (which runs CPRS fine as well). /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:42 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Server Message Block (SMB) Right. You'd need SMB if, for example, you wanted to mount a shared drive from a Windows system, but it has nothing to do with the Broker or standard Internet protocols. I've never tried to do anything with SMB under OS X. In fact, I never bothered to ask whether was even supported. (As an aside, on my G4, I notice that I do have rpc.mountd running, a little to my surprise -- but not really. That's pretty standard.) --- Mike Lieman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/11/05, jae kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another newbie q's: > > > > Has anybody installed openVistA unto Mac OS X > > and attempted to set it up as server with SMB > > for a Windows client with CPRS? > > Will OSIRIX work in this setting (from Windows)? > > SMB is about sharing disk directories and printers. I'm not sure SMB > is the protocol involved. > > TCP port 9120 ( or whatever ) will still be the transport for the > broker. === Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure." --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Question on Vista
So far it'll be Office 12 or Office 2007. But there won't be a Beta 1 for some time so it *could* get a "friendly name" attached to it. The next server edition of Windows will not be called Windows Vista Server but will be Windows 2007 Server. Not everything will get the Vista label. And remember the last set of software labels... Windows XP Home / Pro / TabletPC / Media Center Office 2003 (surpasses Office XP) Windows 2003 Server Exchange 2003 SQL Server 2005 Etc... Underneath it all, there's still a version number. Such that Office 2003 is actually version 11, SQL Server 2000 is actually version 8, etc. I believe the intention is to give the mass market a friendly name for their OS and to keep everything else with a year suffix. I think they changed their tune after Office XP. Marketing != Logic. I say that on the whole for any and every company. Q: What's the difference between buying magazine ads and setting dollar bills on fire? A: Flaming cash actually produces a benefit, since it generates heat. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Witkop Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 12:52 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Question on Vista When Billy released windows 97, it also release office 97 likewise, windows 2000 went with office 2000 will windows VistA also have Office Vista, and will that confuse people? --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Announcing the VistA Office EHR Discussion Forum
There is no one single answer. We all love the tools in which we work with. Some extensively use Outlook as their mail, contacts, database, video archive, and shopping list. Others will break those out and use new tools such as RSS readers, IM, Wiki, etc. What's best for the group beyond the individual user? I believe staying well-connected and everyone being accessible is key. Here's a list of what most of you have said... > Must be accessible via email > Allow posts to thread and organize by thread > Separate groups (newbie, faq, setup/install, fileman, taskman, etc) > Keep the community together I don't see how utilizing a forum would hurt this community. We all made the switch from Topica and I recall it wasn't painful - we simply had to do it. We had to reach the tipping point. A forum can be very useful to organize any wealth of information. Ubuntu uses vBulletin: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/index.php Many forums (including vBulletin) allow subscribing via email and replying using email. The web is not a barrier to entry in this case (and to me, provides a much easier interface to work with than straight text). It would seem naïve for us not to further research the tools available. We've embraced Wiki as a content management system for documentation, I would also vote to embrace forums as a new method of fostering communication between Hardhats and the new VistA members. World of Warcraft (massively multiplayer online game) currently hosts 3.5 million players. I don't think their forums would have a chance using a listserv or even several listservs. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/ David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 11:38 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Announcing the VistA Office EHR Discussion Forum I just read the article David suggested we read. It must have been a long talk! Lots of food for thought and great trepidation. I am going to take a chance at making people angry and talk about what has gone on behind the scenes and why the gentle attempt to help split off some of the traffic anticipated for this list occurred now. Greg Kreis, who is on travel and probably will not even see posting, was on the horn with me about another subject and expressed his concern that the list was having so many postings that it was getting hard read them all and that when he saw the response to the NY Times article, he figured when VO was released that the Hardhats would be inundated with postings. It was not the inundation he was most concerned about. It was that those who came to Hardhats would be rapidly turned off by the technical discussion, it would scare them off, dropping any thought of using VistA at all. They would be a permanent loss to the community. I told him that there were plans to gin up the VVSO (VistA Vendor Support Organization) web site into something with one or more email lists for users, places to donate interfaces and templates and objects and the like, etc., so that he might talk about it with Maury Pepper to see if the VVSO site could help. I suggested Maury because he is part of the VVSO team but I thought since he was probably not in as much of a state of severe sleep deprivation as the rest of the VVSO team, he might be able to focus better on the problem at hand. Maury talked with Greg and invited Greg to briefly join the WorldVistA board meeting conference call Thursday night to see if they could come up with a plan that might work out. When a last minute invitation was extended to me as well, I joined in. I think I can summarize the discussion by saying that everyone was fearful of wrecking what the Hardhats mailing list has, which I will not attempt to define, but we all know it is really great stuff. This was just a best guess as to what might be done that would preserve what we have and yet also provide a useful forum for new VO adopters and at least some of the rest of us who straddle the fence between clinical and technical. Greg felt the Hardhats began as largely a Kernel, Fileman, Taskman, etc. infrastructure list so that that dividing line between applications and infrastructure seemed like a reasonable one. The plan was to gently encourage folks to move the discussion of a particular topic to the most appropriate list. That was it. Make the new list that was coming anyway and gently suggest ... nothing more ... and hope that even that is not too much. I think those of us that have an interest in all aspects of VistA would do well to join the other list and just see what happens. It will all show up in you mailbox together and you can hopefully just keep right on doing what you are doing with little change except the things more of interest to t
RE: [Hardhats-members] (no subject)
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Announcing the VistA Office EHR Discussion Forum
Why are we splitting lists? I'm treating Hardhats as "The VistA resource" outside of the VA. Does furthering VistA outside of the VA involve infrastructure vs support? Do the people that would respond to Taskman questions not want to hear about setting up DUZ=1 before entering Fileman? To me - they're related. The same person that answers that question twice will help build the resource (Wiki) for FAQs (as we all are), etc. Then when all the easy questions are answered (which they will), do they go here for the really tough stuff? Wouldn't they go to the Wiki first and we just remind them on that on their first newb post? Before you reply - give this long (but great) "article" a read: http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html If you don't want to read it all, jump down to "Part Three: What Can We Take for Granted?" (hint: use the browser's find text tool) I think we're all well connected to each other and contribute to this thing we've come to love. If someone can explain to me why I don't want to hear about installing VistA - tell me - because I'm listening and I'm seeing new and exciting things growing up all around me. [And then tell me what Hardhats is for again?] David Sommers, Architect -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Dal Molin Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:12 PM To: hardhats Subject: [Hardhats-members] Announcing the VistA Office EHR Discussion Forum Dear Hardhats List Members, The WorldVistA VVSO has created a discussion forum specific to VistA Office EHR. Please post all messages relating to VistA Office EHR to this list. The exception being technical questions relating to VistA infrastructure issues, such as Fileman, Taskman etc. which should continue to be directed to the Hardhats list. We are creating this list with the full support of the HardHats list administrators, partly to address the anticipated significant increas in traffic and diversity of messages expected with the launch of VistA Office EHR. To subscribe to the new list, go to: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vista-officeehr-forum Thank you, Joseph Dal Molin Program Manager, VVSO WorldVistA --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Windows Vista!!!!!
Actually - it's probably who "did it first" but copyrights, trademarks, and blah blah blah. So confusing. But since vista is a common dictionary word, none may apply. http://www.answers.com/vista&r=67 David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sommers Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:23 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Windows Vista! I don't think that's possible because VistA (as we know it) doesn't appear in Google until page 2. If anyone owns a right to it, it's probably going to be AmeriCorps. Also DHCP was used for networking and did not originate from Microsoft: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1531.txt /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sowinski, Richard J. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:45 AM To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Windows Vista! It seems like Microsoft and VA have a history of using the same name for different things. Like DHCP. I wonder if VA ever copyrighted the name VistA? If so, think of the publicity that could be generated by a copyright infringement case. For those of you who didn't know it, here's a bit of VistA trivia for you. VistA was re-named from DHCP in a contest held within the VA about 10 years ago. If memory serves me Cameron submitted the winning name. My submittal was VAMIS (VA Medical Information System), along with a slogan, "We're famous for VAMIS". Anyway, I still like VAMIS, but I'm afraid I'm an army of one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:00 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Windows Vista! Let us hope the VistA spelling catches on better than it did with the NY Times, as it might help a little! On Friday 22 July 2005 09:26 am, Greg Kreis wrote: > Oh no! Microsoft changed the name of Longhorn to Vista. I am not > kidding. VISTA! Get ready for confusion galore > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id492&op=ick ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Windows Vista!!!!!
I don't think that's possible because VistA (as we know it) doesn't appear in Google until page 2. If anyone owns a right to it, it's probably going to be AmeriCorps. Also DHCP was used for networking and did not originate from Microsoft: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1531.txt /David. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sowinski, Richard J. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:45 AM To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Windows Vista! It seems like Microsoft and VA have a history of using the same name for different things. Like DHCP. I wonder if VA ever copyrighted the name VistA? If so, think of the publicity that could be generated by a copyright infringement case. For those of you who didn't know it, here's a bit of VistA trivia for you. VistA was re-named from DHCP in a contest held within the VA about 10 years ago. If memory serves me Cameron submitted the winning name. My submittal was VAMIS (VA Medical Information System), along with a slogan, "We're famous for VAMIS". Anyway, I still like VAMIS, but I'm afraid I'm an army of one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:00 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Windows Vista! Let us hope the VistA spelling catches on better than it did with the NY Times, as it might help a little! On Friday 22 July 2005 09:26 am, Greg Kreis wrote: > Oh no! Microsoft changed the name of Longhorn to Vista. I am not > kidding. VISTA! Get ready for confusion galore > > > --- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies > from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to > speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click > ___ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Open source, Vista, and XP (and I don't mean Windows)
I'm the proud owner of several Kent Beck's books and one in particular is Extreme Programming Explained. Helpful links: http://www.extremeprogramming.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_Programming You don't have to follow all the rules and many developers find that they are already doing many of these already: http://www.extremeprogramming.org/rules.html You can easily combine several methods across projects - we find some projects can't obtain the same level of quality upon delivery using XP while others require it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_development_process Specifically at Dialog Medical - we believe strongly in small iterative releases, team work, collective code, standards, and refactoring. Many of these apply itself thru the proper uses of OOP but can easily be applied to even procedural languages such as scripting (ASP, Perl, PHP, etc) and M. Number one turn-off for many is "pair programming" but don't get too scared of it at first. You can try that out last. We do it all the time out of necessity when something "interesting" is being developed. And get the book - it's a great read. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321278658/103-7103296-6167042 Greg, the number one problem with open-source projects is geography, leadership, and teamwork. (I'm sure there's more as I'm not really thinking too hard on this at work). It's hard to just put up a project, give a mission statement, some rough roadmap, and expect a bunch of people to come in and help out. It would require a full-time development manager just to make sure things were getting done and usually the "original author" for OS project is someone with no interest in managing the project full-time. The key difference between an application built in-house and online would be that level of teamwork and leadership. You could work out geography many ways but it's much easier when the infrastructure is provided by your employer. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 6:46 PM To: Hardhats Subject: [Hardhats-members] Open source, Vista, and XP (and I don't mean Windows) A very general question: Is Extreme Programming (XP) an appropriate model for open source? With all built in tests, pair programming, and all that, is it even workable? I have never tried consciously to adopt XP as a practice, but many of the principles and practices in XP resonate well with how I like to work as a developer (and how I think I work best). Big open source projects seem hard to fit into this model because of sheer scale and because of the (typically) geographically diverse nature of the development team. On the other hand, I am struck by the lack of attention paid to analysis and design on this list. I also wonder if this is an entirely bad thing -- While I don't believe good software can just organically "evolve" with no clear understanding (on the part of the developers) of what it is supposed to do, I also believe that design is best thought of as an ongoing process and (though the waterfall development model is no longer fashionable), we tend to handcuff ourselves with the "first requirements, then design, and (only) then construction" mentality. I agree with Kent Beck that in his otherwise brilliant "Code Complete" Steven McConnell pushes the construction metaphor too far. Developing software is (or should be) a learning process, and we gain insight into how better to build a piece of software by working on it. It seems fruitless to think that any large problem can really completely understood "up front" before we even begin to create a solution. "The most profound technologies are those that disappear." --Mark Weiser Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Searching VistA documentation
I'll tell you what I do and I don't believe I'll upset anyone... well, I hope not. I mirror the entire FTP site locally. The VA doesn't have to worry about a backup because I'm sitting on 3.29 GB of files for them. I use WS_FTP but you can use any application that does a good job of syncing (like rsync) - you don't want to waste time and bandwidth on bringing down everything everytime, just the changed files. Then I use one of the most useful tools ever - MSN Desktop Search. Type in your search criteria and bingo - it pops up. Both Yahoo and Google also have similar desktop searching tools but I find MSN fits me best mainly due to the results screen. Personal Taste: The Google results are always HTML return and you see the results in a web browser. The MSN results consist of the files themselves. It's hard to explain, but if you right-click on the item in the result list - you'll see the right-click context of the file itself. If you drag it to a folder, it will copy the original item. If you double-click it, it'll open up Adobe or Word, etc. It IS the file and not just a [poor] HTML representation of it. I highly recommend you try them all and see what fits you - I ran each for 2 full weeks and went back to MSN. (I also use Spotlight on OSX Tiger which will deliver similar results). Added bonus: This helps a lot when searching the internals of the patch notes and not just the clinical documentation (I'm a developer so I'm usually looking thru the patch notes and KID files). *The Adobe PDF plug-in for MSN Desktop Search, should be included but oh well, I'm not the PM. http://g.msn.com/8SEENUS020100/AddinsHome_addin1_downloadURL http://desktop.msn.com http://desktop.google.com http://desktop.yahoo.com I'm seeing a trend on the third-level domain naming convention... weird. /David. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ismet Kursunoglu, MD Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:14 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Searching VistA documentation Jim, David, Nancy and Bhaskar, Thanks for bringing me up to date with 21 century technology - these solutions are very helpful. I still can't see beyond the few lines that the Google results present without downloading the whole document or HTML translation. For example using this in a Google search session site:http://www.va.gov/vdl/ zsystem yields, [DOC] BCMA V. 2.0 and This Guide File Format: Microsoft Word 2000 - View as HTML CLOSE EXECUTE: U IO K IO(1,IO) C IO ZSYSTEM "lpr -r "_IO. Network printer:. From the Linux menu:. select System Settings then Printing ... www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Clinical/Pharm-Bar_Code_Med_Admin_(BCMA)/ BCMA_Backup_System_Installation_Guide.doc - Similar pages Is there a way to extend the context of the search results? I don't see that as part of the extended or advanced features at Google search. I also tried alltheweb.com but that didn't support his feature, nor on Yahoo. Finally What tool would you recommend to create a fast lookup index of all the documents (hopefully one that is part of the Debian distribution), including the PDF files i.e. on a locally created mirror of the vdl? For that matter how does Google accomplish this? I was looking at Glimpse but apparently it won't index PDF files. Could I use Fileman or some utility from VistA to do this? Thanks. Ismet > You simply have to restrict to a specific site. > > For Google, put "site:www.va.gov/vdl" in the search box with your term. > Search term: > fileman site:www.va.gov/vdl > > http://www.google.com/search?as_q=fileman&as_sitesearch=www.va.gov%2Fvdl > > For MSN Search, put "site:www.va.gov" in the search box with your term. > (Msn and Yahoo don't like folders, only specify the domain) > Search term: > fileman site:www.va.gov > > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=fileman+site%3Awww.va.gov > > > And most of your other search engines will do the same. (Note: Yahoo > will take the expression in the search box but the Advanced Search > "builder" won't place it there for you to easily see how it works. The > MSN Search Builder adds it in while you build out your query so you can > mess with the query while building it.) > > > /David. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim > Self > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:40 PM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Searching VistA documentation > > What about google? > > for instance: > http://www.google.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.va.gov+cprs > > Ismet B. Kursunoglu wrote: > >>As I get into the nooks and crannies of VistA I find that it's as vast >>and rich as the Pacific ocean. What's more the old adage (which I won't >>repeat here) about reading the documentation surely holds true in that >>the VistA Documentation Library (VDL) http://www.va.gov/vdl/ has the >>answers to many of my
RE: [Hardhats-members] Searching VistA documentation
You simply have to restrict to a specific site. For Google, put "site:www.va.gov/vdl" in the search box with your term. Search term: fileman site:www.va.gov/vdl http://www.google.com/search?as_q=fileman&as_sitesearch=www.va.gov%2Fvdl For MSN Search, put "site:www.va.gov" in the search box with your term. (Msn and Yahoo don't like folders, only specify the domain) Search term: fileman site:www.va.gov http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=fileman+site%3Awww.va.gov And most of your other search engines will do the same. (Note: Yahoo will take the expression in the search box but the Advanced Search "builder" won't place it there for you to easily see how it works. The MSN Search Builder adds it in while you build out your query so you can mess with the query while building it.) /David. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Self Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:40 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Searching VistA documentation What about google? for instance: http://www.google.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.va.gov+cprs Ismet B. Kursunoglu wrote: >As I get into the nooks and crannies of VistA I find that it's as vast >and rich as the Pacific ocean. What's more the old adage (which I won't >repeat here) about reading the documentation surely holds true in that >the VistA Documentation Library (VDL) http://www.va.gov/vdl/ has the >answers to many of my questions. > >The problem is that the answers are often contained across many MB's >worth of PDF (total of 625 documents) or html files. I have >read/searched many of these documents but the going is pretty slow. > >I am using shell scripts (like pdfgrep http://blog.rompe.org/pdfgrep) >and other *NIX tools to speed this process up but was wondering if there >was some "Google like" interface to all this documentation? I know that >some of this is available on the Hardhats site, but I haven't seen any >comprehensive search links - however I could easily have missed them. > >I have also been searching this mailing list archive >http://www.mail-archive.com/hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net/ and >generally find them extremely rich in good content but there are no >advanced search functions to be had there. Maybe there is a capability >to download the entire archive of the list, but I don't see it. I also >tried the Sourceforge mail site directly but found it pretty tedious to >use. > >Do such search-able sites exist for all the VistA documentation and/or >the Hardhats mailing list? --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77&alloc_id492&op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] HL7 v3 RIM (was: XML data export)
They also have API interfaces for several platforms. I was digging thru the JavaDocs help files online last night. I'm not sure which JVM it uses but they seem to have everything from VB and Java to Visio and Rose. They're very multi-platform on delivering the message. The images of the entire RIM are just amazing. I great use of UML and diagrams to "draw out" the idea. Of course we're still using HL7 2.x here in the States but Europe is championing the v3 spec (or that's what I've heard). /David. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:54 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] XML data export I've been looking at that link (very useful, BTW) and the XML I see is an XMI 1.0 representation of the model. My guess is that it was generated programmatically from the .mdl files. There are, however Visio files and simple graphics representing the RIM. I *think* there is an XML serialization of the Access database, too. --- "A. Forrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, David Sommers wrote: > > > May I suggest (the large) RIM model for HL7 v3. It's XML. > > HL7's RIM v3.0 is a start but contary to some views it is not the > answer > to everything; there is much that can be harmonised to include much > more > of the conceptual content needed. The CCR, which is the use of XML > for a > certain part of the needs, can have utility for part of the system > behavior needed and Nancy's comment that it will be available with > Vista > Office is most encouraging but it also comes with an evolutionary > trajectory that must be based on commonly needed capabilities. The > Relationship of these capabilities to those needed frome the Zachman > frameork peprspectiev still needs considerable work; there is reason > to > hope that RIM 3.0 can be related to this broader perspective. > > > > > > http://www.hl7.org/Library/data-model/index.cfm > > > It may not be a simple implementation of what you're looking for > but it > > is a standard and more than likely has too much. I wish I had a > quick > > little XML sample to paste in but I couldn't dig up anything > quickly. > > (I suggest a search of the site). > > > > /David. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Kevin > > Toppenberg > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:23 PM > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] XML data export > > > > OK. So it would be most helpful to do one's XML > > export using tags that everyone agrees on. But this > > is apparently still an evolving area, where consensus > > has not been reached. > > > > So in the mean time, I think I will try to design a my > > XML export system such that the end user can choose to > > simply use the data labels for individual fields, or > > optionally specify different XML tags. > > > > Kevin > > > > > > --- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> Everybody does seem to be getting. I just went to > >> OMG to download the > >> MOF standard, and notice that on their main page > >> they are talking about > >> their involvement with EHR standards, too. Of > >> course, there is HL7 who, > >> in addition to the RIM and CDA has an EHR-S effort > >> underway. I know > >> about CCR, but it's only a small part of what ASTM > >> is doing. I've been > >> looking at the OpenEHR web site, but am still trying > >> to digest it at > >> see if I can get a handle on what is genuinely new > >> about archetypes. I > >> think the language is a bit confusing, because in > >> mathematical logic, > >> ontologies typically refer to what is left if you > >> omit contingent > >> information from your model (actually a model is > >> basically an ontology > >> + contingent information). > >> > >> --- "A. Forrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> There are ASTM standards on the Structure and > >> Conent of the EHR that > >>> are > >>> consistent with ADA standards on the EHR; These > >> are conceptual > >>> content > >>> standards that have had historic support of AHIMA. > >> Thye also have > >>> some > >>> consistency with HL7 me
