Re: [Hardhats-members] Unable to access providers
The response is as follows [EMAIL PROTECTED] vista]$ /usr/local/gtm/mupip rundown -file /home/vista/OpenVistA/g/mumps.dat /home/vista/OpenVistA/g/mumps.dat - File is in use by another process. %GTM-W-MUNOTALLSEC, WARNING: not all global sections accessed were successfully rundown Usha Original Message: - From: K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:50:10 -0500 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Unable to access providers What is the entire message? GT.M may be trying to tell you that you have processes accessing the database and that it cannot be rundown. Maybe you have active Taskman processes that need to be shut down before you turn off the computer? -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 09:46 +0530, Usha Kiran wrote: Hi Kevin, It's really wierd but every time I rundown, at the end of the day, I get the message that not all the areas were successfully rundown. But the next morning before starting GTM, if I rundown, the message tells me that all the areas were successfully rundown. Is it normal? Today, at the end of the day, I will try and use the procedure that you have given and then try to rundown Hopefully it will rundown successfully. Usha --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Unable to access providers
Hi Kevin, I didn't do anything specific for making a person as employee. I think all the users in the NEW PERSON file are marked as employees automatically. Usha Original Message: - From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:21:23 -0800 (PST) To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Unable to access providers Usha, I would like to use that feature. How did you set a person or patient to be marked as an employee? Kevin --- Usha Kiran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I searched through the ADT User manual to find out that the option ENTER/EDIT PATIENT SECURITY LEVEL enters all existing patients with an eligibility code of employee automatically into the security log as sensitive by the system. Now I am unable to figure out how to remove this sensitivityfrom EMPLOYEEs? Usha - Original Message - From: Usha Kiran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Unable to access providers It seems rundown was one of the many problems. After rundown, the system response is given below GTMD Q^DI VA FileMan 22.0 Select OPTION: 1 ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES INPUT TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// GTM Usha - Original Message - From: Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Unable to access providers Have you been doing a rundown on your database every time you shut down GTM? On Tuesday 15 February 2005 11:57 pm, Usha Kiran wrote: Hi Yesterday I just tried to see how a patient can be made SENSITIVE. I created an entry in the DG SECURITY LOG file for that patient. And it is working fine. But my system has started behaving very strangely. Following are some of the problems I faced: 1) I cannot add a new entry into the NEW PERSON file GTMd Q^DI VA FileMan 22.0 Select OPTION: 1 ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES INPUT TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// EDIT WHICH FIELD: ALL// %GTM-E-GVDATAFAIL, Global variable $DATA function failed. Failure code: .,%GTM-I-GVIS, Global variable: ^DD(200.074745,.01,9) At M source location DR+3^DIA1 GTM 2) I am unable to see the encounter providers in the CPRS. 3) I am unable to see the names of the providers at the help (?). Select NEW PERSON NAME: ? Answer with NEW PERSON NAME, or INITIAL, or SSN, or VERIFY CODE, or NICK NAME, or SERVICE/SECTION, or DEA#, or VA#, or ALIAS Do you want the entire 117-Entry NEW PERSON List? Y (Yes) Choose from: MATTHEW,SHERINSM You may enter a new NEW PERSON, if you wish Answer must be 3-35 upper-case characters in length, and be in the format Family(Last),Given(First) Middle Suffix. Enter '??' for more help . Can somebody please help me out? Usha -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF email is sponsored
[Hardhats-members] Messaging from CPRS
I understand that when a user clicks or double clicks on something in CPRS that this typically results in some action by an RPC broker call. How can we deterimine what CPRS is sending back to the M job? Are the parameters on the tag represented by RPC call coming from CPRS or the job that is running on the server or both? How can I determine what they are. Can anyone tell me what RPC manuals I ought to read and maybe even what section? Jim Gray --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Orders list
I have a question about the control of orders from the Fileman side of CPRS. In CPRS there is an orders tab. If you click on that you get a list of things that can be ordered on the left side of the window. What file is that list coming from? Is it from either 100.98 or 101.41? Where is the parameter that controls what list to present in that box? Is there are roll and scroll menu to edit that list? I am open to reading the manuals, but I am finding it very hard to find answers in the manuals for CPRS. Jim Gray --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Orders List
I do not understand the purpose and functions of the General Parameters Tools Options. What are we really editing when we edit a parameter as in the case below? Is it just to edit the sequence numbers for individual orders that are under an order like ORWOR WRITE ORDERS LIST? Jim Gray RE: [Hardhats-members] Orders list ELSIE CASUGAY Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:12:18 -0800 To add from the list use this option. See examples below. The files are coming from the ORDER DIALOG FILE. You might have to create the list. Usually you can copy an existing one and modify it to your taste. To do that you have to use this menu (MN Enter/edit order menus [ORCM MENU]). There are existing one you can use to copy and make it your own. They are called OR ADD MENU CLINICIAN...NURSE..WARD CLERK. You can copy these and to make it your own call them ORZ ADD MENU CLINICIAN or NURSE or WARD CLERK. Good luck and have fun using the menu. If you have anymore questions just post your questions. D ^XUP OPTION NAME: XPAR MENU LV List Values for a Selected Parameter LE List Values for a Selected Entity LP List Values for a Selected Package LT List Values for a Selected Template EP Edit Parameter Values ET Edit Parameter Values with Template EK Edit Parameter Definition Keyword You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option You've got PRIORITY mail! Select General Parameter Tools Option: EP Edit Parameter Values --- Edit Parameter Values --- Select PARAMETER DEFINITION NAME: WRITE 1 WRITE ORDERS (INPATIENT) ORW ADDORD INPT Write Orders (Inpatient) 2 WRITE ORDERS (INPATIENT) ORWOR WRITE ORDERS LIST Write Orders (Inpat ient) CHOOSE 1-2: 2 ORWOR WRITE ORDERS LIST Write Orders (Inpatient) ORWOR WRITE ORDERS LIST may be set for the following: 1 User USR[choose from NEW PERSON] 2 Location LOC[choose from HOSPITAL LOCATION] 2.3 Service SRV[choose from SERVICE/SECTION] 2.7 Division DIV[choose from INSTITUTION] 3 SystemSYS[IMGDEM01.MED.VA.GOV] 4 Package PKG[ORDER ENTRY/RESULTS REPORTING] Enter selection: 4 Package ORDER ENTRY/RESULTS REPORTING Parameters set for 'Package' may be replaced if ORDER ENTRY/RESULTS REPORTING is installed in this account. Setting ORWOR WRITE ORDERS LIST for Package: ORDER ENTRY/RESULTS REPORTING Select Sequence: ? Sequence Value - 20GMRAOR ALLERGY ENTER/EDIT 30FHW1 52PSJ OR PAT OE 53PSH OERR 55PSO OERR 58PSJI OR PAT FLUID OE 60LR OTHER LAB TESTS 70RA OERR EXAM 80GMRCOR CONSULT 85GMRCOR REQUEST 90GMRVOR 99OR GXTEXT WORD PROCESSING ORDER 110 ORZ ADD MENU CLINICIAN 115 ORZ ADD MENU (IMAGING CONSULT/PROCEDURE) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:50 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Orders list I have a question about the control of orders from the Fileman side of CPRS. In CPRS there is an orders tab. If you click on that you get a list of things that can be ordered on the left side of the window. What file is that list coming from? Is it from either 100.98 or 101.41? Where is the parameter that controls what list to present in that box? Is there are roll and scroll menu to edit that list? I am open to reading the manuals, but I am finding it very hard to find answers in the manuals for CPRS. Jim Gray --- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Orders List
Must confess it is only slightly clearer than mud, perhaps because I do not know how the Windows registry works either. I just want to know how to taylor the list of orderables and I think that Elsie's comment has allowed me to do that. Jim Gray Here's something I wrote a few weeks back (not on hardhats) that might be helpful: As you probably know, the parameter tool is designed to manage a set of key/value pairs very much like the Windows registry. The key point is that the same key may be defined at various levels of granularity: USR (user), CLS (class), LOC (location), SRV (service), DIV (division), SYS (system), PKG (package), and more. The key point (no pun intended...well, maybe a little) is that a given key can be associated with different types of granularity (called entities in the parameter tool documentation), and when retrieving a parameter value, you neednt specify the particuar entity in which you are interested. In fact, a common use case is searching through a list (e.g., USR^CLS^PKG) or through all of them, looking for the first hit. Now, why might this be useful? Imagine a parameter that contains the location of a laboratory. Most physicians may wish to use th nearest laboratory (a hit under LOC), but maybe there is no laboratory associated with their location and they need a default. Its also possible that a physician may practice a specialty where not just any laboratory will do, but instead they may need to use a laboratory that has more specialized equipment, even if it isnt the closest. Now, one thing that can be confusing about the parameter tool is that some entity types need to be qualified and some do not. For example, I have used USR level parameterts to allow users to specify where they want certain host files saved (or retrieved). Different users have different default directories under VMS, and so they want to get different answers when asking for a directory to use. Accordingly, in the generic query (CSLQQ) you find the following S UDIR=$$GET^XPAR(USR,CSL QUERY DEFINITION DIR) But how does the parameter tool know which user is invoking this code? The obvious answer is that it looks at DUZ. But what if I wanted a value associatd with a location? Thats harder because there is no convenient variable to check. The answer is that LOC needs to be qualified in the call using LOC.somewhere instead of just LOC. The following code, kindly supplied by Kevin Meldrum, shows how a value might be qualified at runtime by setting LOC to the SERVICE/SECTION pulled from file 200 and appending the internal value to SRV. (The entity LOC is used to refer to entires in the HOSPITAL LOCATION file (#44). I realize Im kind of confusing things by switching from LOC to SRV. Sorry about that.) S LOC=+$G(LOC)_;SC( I 'LOC S LOC= S ANENT=ALL^_LOC_$S($G(^VA(200,DUZ,5)):^SRV.`_+$G(^(5)),1:) S MNU=$$GET^XPAR(ANENT,ORWDX WRITE ORDERS LIST,1,I) Q:'MNU I believe it is possible to use a .01 value here, but a pointer may be used as `253 or (in variable pointer syntax) 253;SC(. Generally PKG is the value of last resort, that is, the least specific value you may wish to associate with a key. System, or SYS is one step down from that, giving a value that applies to anyone using the parameter at a given facility (unless something more specific matches, instead). Clear as mud? --- ELSIE CASUGAY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The parameter shown below allows you to add/remove from the orders tab. You can also define by 1 User USR[choose from NEW PERSON] 2 Location LOC[choose from HOSPITAL LOCATION] 2.3 Service SRV[choose from SERVICE/SECTION] 2.7 Division DIV[choose from INSTITUTION] 3 SystemSYS[IMGDEM01.MED.VA.GOV] 4 Package PKG[ORDER ENTRY/RESULTS REPORTING] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 3:32 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Orders List I do not understand the purpose and functions of the General Parameters Tools Options. What are we really editing when we edit a parameter as in the case below? Is it just to edit the sequence numbers for individual orders that are under an order like ORWOR WRITE ORDERS LIST? Jim Gray RE: [Hardhats-members] Orders list ELSIE CASUGAY Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:12:18 -0800 To add from the list use this option. See examples below. The files are coming from the ORDER DIALOG FILE. You might have to create the list. Usually you can copy an existing one and modify it to your taste. To do that you have to use this menu (MN Enter/edit order menus [ORCM MENU]). There are existing one you can use to copy and make it your own
[Hardhats-members] Problem while connecting to server using crossover/wine
I was just trying to get the CPRS to work on Linux (seeing many of you do it successfully). I installed the Crossover trial version and tried to connect to the server using the command: ./wine CPRSChart.exe CCOW=DISABLE s=IndiaVistA p=9200 But it didn't connect to it, so I tried installing the RPC Broker Client and tried to run CPRS again. Now the error message I get is Error with Listen - CLAGENT will close. And the CPRS demo does not work too. I used the command ./wine CPRSChart.exe CCOW=DISABLE s=CPRSdemo.va.go p=23 But this doesn't seem to work too. It says there is some access voilation in both cases. Have any idea what the problem might be? Usha mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] problem issuing item from warehouse to primary inventory point
Hi Have successfully made a Purchase Order and receive items against it. The items were entered into inventory through the ADJUST INVENTORY QUANTITY option. Then I was trying issue the item to a primary inventory point using POST ISSUE BOOK ORDER option. The warehouse balance has reflected the dispensing but the inventory point (ENTER/EDIT INVENTORY ITEM option) does not show it. Now when I try to adjust the item into the primary inventory point using the ADJUST INVENTORY QUANTITY option again, it does not work. The comment it shows is THIS ISSUE BOOK HAS NOT BEEN POSTED (NO FMS LINE NUMBER) AND CANNOT BE ADJUSTED. Is this because I am using a wrong option? How can I do this? Anna mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] == Map of Routines in Cache and/or GTM ==
Tens of thousands of VistA routines are stored in Cache (in the database) and in GT.M (in the file system), their names are really cryptic to say the less. Is there some way to know what each routine does without having to open each of them and try to find out? Is there some document which has this info in some ordered way? If not, is there some way to make a Map of how the routines interact with each other? UML? Something else? Alberto Odor Mexico City mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Add New Patient in VistA
Hello Everyone, I just learned about Vista being open-sourced from a mawolfe at a Linux tradeshow. Can someone point me to links to get up to speed on how well Open Vista can be deployed to a docotors' office. I worked for a company a while which had two Physician Management System products and these were just not very impressive. I know Vista is written in MUMPS and some other things from crawling the web but any pointers to a summary like an executive summary will be appreciated. My company sells a Fully Loaded Linux platform so it makes sense to preload Dr. Office and/or Hospital software as possible. The push is to get exposure to the software or as we say it, Software is Free(tm). Thanks! Tim Jowers - Original Message From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 3:29:34 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Add New Patient in VistA Funny you should ask. Jim Self has just released a beta of a web-based patient registration. Do you have access to the archives of this message board? Kevin On 4/27/06, Gokul Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am looking for the best practice approach to Add a new patient in VistA. I know it can be done thru, DG REGISTER PATIENT or thru the 'ENTER OR EDIT FILE ENTRIES' Can this, 'Add New Patient in VistA', done from an outside application. Pls let me know. Thanks, -Gokul --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Open Source Free Practice Management System Interfaces
Hi Nancy, Still a rough draft (http://www.unitedswe.com/fll/pms.htm) but I've started looking at Open Source PMS's. Everyone please let me know of others I need to review. So far I've looked at the following. These are all closely related and web-based so far: FreeMed/OpenEMR/MirrorMed (ClearHealth) Tim --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone knows of any practice management systems out there that are willing to have their interfaces to VistA be FLOSS, please let me know as I need some examples of what we be facing when it comes time to trying to build them. -- Nancy Anthracite --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux package handling and other... (was Re: Linux KDE question)
I think installs is an unsolved problem. The #1 issue with Linux right now. Yum and CentOS is a nightmare. Maybe for RHEL and FC5 too? karan has some apps built for CentOS but FC5 built apps are more generally found. Often you can only get the source and have to build the app itself! The Linux packaging dolts are using shared objects - the exact same problem as DLL Hell in 'doze. Until the packagers mature enough to realize the package must work in and of itself then you have to have a tool which sorts out the dependencies. I've used Synaptic successfully - it's based on apt. But I'm still sorting out this mess. In short, yum install packagename is OK for some basics. And downloading an RPM is OK for some basics. But when you want the latest and greatest pgadmin3 for instance then be prepared to go hunting for libcrypto.so3, *.so5 this and *.so3 that. IMO, the Linux package installs are broken and unprofessional. Maybe RHEL solces this? I've used the latest CentOS releases lately but they are full major versions behind on their up2date packages such as postgresql. Does RHEL have the latest postgresql, 8.1.3, in its up2date or is it 7.x or 8.1.0? Anybody know? Contrast this with installing SQuirreL. Java code. Installs beautifully in Linux and 'doze. I guess the Java folks have an upper hand in that the shared library problems (jar's in the Java space) have been biting them since Java came out so they know it is unprofessional to ship a program with external dependencies. You have to resolve these dependencies by shipping the jar or search code that finds the correct jar during the install process. My opinion, Tim Jowers --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin and folks: On package handling, Fedora uses yum (short for YellowDog Update Manager). yum (RedHat, CentOS, and Fedora flavors) parallels apt-get (Debian, Knoppix, and K/Ubuntu flavors). man yum will give more details, but if the package repositories in the yum sources file has a particular package, it would be yum install package name. Like apt-get there is yum check-update and yum upgrade (similar to apt-get upgrade) as well. I would STRONG urge NOT to use apt for rpm's from personal usage as well as other tales of terror. ;-) Keep apt for the Debian forks, use yum for the RedHat forks. As for Fedora itself...I would suggest CentOS instead. It is a week delayed version of RHEL (RedHat Enterprise Linux), just without the RedHat labels and tags due to their licenses. I have used it quite successfully for our clients in the event they want a quick install (since Gentoo takes a few days to compile from source after all ;-) ). CentOS does also have a server only edition, which is 1 CD and is bare minimal packages (i.e., no fat like X, KDE, Gnome, etc.). Fedora as Nancy and others have mentioned is extremely too unstable and bleeding edge for a production environment. Personal use...one's call there obviously. HTH and FWIW. --- Crawford PS: I get the HardHat's list in digest mode, so pardon any delays on responding. The Linux ETC Company 368 South McCaslin Boulevard Suite #146 Louisville, CO 80027 USA +1 (303) 604-2550 (voice) +1 (303) 664-0036 (fax) http://www.linux-etc.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux KDE question
Same for 'doze. One of my clients runs XP Pro 32 bit as the drivers for their AMD 64 hardware were not available/did not work for the HP machines. TimJowers --- Mike Schrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice summary Bhaskar, One other point about Linux Distros, I've learned that, you shouldn't build (or buy) a computer without first checking the OS you plan to use for appropriate drivers for your hardware (even Windows). If your favorite Distro doesn't have SATA II support or run nVidia cards OR 64 bit CPU'S, either don't build it that way or find a Distro that does. Mike Bhaskar, KS wrote: Kevin -- I am not quite sure where to start, and I'll try to keep this brief (I'll need to keep this brief). Debian is actually an entire family of distributions that include the core Debian distributions (Stable, Testing and Unstable), the Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu family, Mepis Linux, Knoppix, Knoppix, Gnoppix, Damn Small Linux, Feather Linux, Morphix, and many more. Knoppix is a hybrid of Stable, Testing and Unstable, and although it can be installed on a hard drive, it is not really intended to be maintainable. Don't try to use it for a production system. Debian Stable may not always have the latest hardware drivers. If you have bleeding edge hardware, e.g., with SATA drives, Debian Stable may not have current drivers for them. [There is an entirely different philosophical discussion as to whether you should use bleeding edge hardware unless you have to. Imagine a drug manufacturer introduces a brand new statin, Maxtor. Wouldn't you want to try something with a proven track record and well understood side effects, maybe Pravachol, Zocor or Lipitor before trying Maxtor? Similarly, bleeding edge designs are for those for whom proven hardware software won't suffice.] Production versions (through Breezy Badger) of the Ubuntu series are probably good bets, if Debian Stable doesn't support your hardware. I haven't kept up with the Red Hat releases, but I am similarly not sure that Fedora Core 5 is a good choice for a production environment. RHEL 4 would be more appropriate, and if you don't want to pay the bucks for RHEL support, consider an RHEL clone like CentOS, or a lower priced alternative like Novell. Regards -- Bhaskar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Mon 5/8/2006 8:19 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux KDE question Well, at your advice, I just tried to install Debian 3.1r2 (sarge I believe). And I was not impressed. The install interface is chui, which seems unnecessary, but I could overlook that. But when it failed to detect that I have a hard disk in the computer, I had didn't know how to overcome that. Fedora did fine with it. After it faild to find the disk, debian takes me to a list of the installation process. I backed up one step to detect hardware. It first loads up floppy modules, but then complains about missing modules that look like they should be for my hard disk. Anyway, I had heard that debian was essentially the same as knoppix, which typically can get almost anything up and running. This is a relatively new Dell desktop: model DCSM. I'm not sure how to tell what my Fedora is doing successfully that Debian isn't. I'm open to ideas, but I think I may stay with this working Fedora 5. Kevin --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux and Windows on the same machine
A couple of Windows interpreters exist and a couple of VM's onto which you can install an OS. E.g. VMWare allows you to run Windows atop Linux and vice versa and even supports access to the network and disks. It requires an install of the Windows OS. WINE allows running Windows apps on Linux/Unix. Microsoft has inserted breakage code to try to break their apps when run atop WINE as WINE does not require a Windows install (it interprets Win32 drawing calls to X Windows calls for instance). TimJowers P.S I've been coding in Java for some years now. It runs everywhere. --- Wasif Toor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can also try using Microsoft Virtual PC. Works! Wasif. On 5/11/06, Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Krawitz wrote: I would like some suggestions on a system configuration enabling me to run GT/M on Linux and CPRS on Windows, all on the same machine (a laptop). I've got some ideas, but I wanted to hear from some folks who have actually tried this. The new Apple MacBook can run Linux plus Microsoft plus OSX all at the same time using the virtual machine features supported in the new Intel Dual Core CPU architecture. I haven't personally tried to run Microsoft yet, since I have had it only a week now and I am mostly interested in web based applications, but installation of Debian Testing was almost shockingly easy in a virtual machine using a beta of Parallels Workstation. (http://parallels.com) --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- M2Web Demonstration with VistA (http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/) (http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/m.cgi) --- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Edit mode with up-arrow input
Hi! When I am in Edit mode, inputting data to a Fileman file, if the input begins with an up-arrow ^ , the routine assumes I am trying to jump. So it looks something like this: GLOBAL NAME: ^TMP($J?? GLOBAL NAME: etc. Is there some way to enter an input beginning with an up-arrow? Thanks, Michael Reach Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Edit mode with up-arrow input
Chris, thanks for your response(s). I am writing a routine that does automated testing. In using it, the user needs to be able to enter some variable name which will be set equal to some initial value he sets. Sometimes that variable name is a global root (and normally he'd choose a temp global for the test like ^TMP($J, or ^UTILITY($J, ). So two of the input fields are GLOBAL NAME (where he inputs the root), and INPUT VALUE (which somehow indicates the value(s) to be loaded into that global for the test). Similarly, I have two more fields for RESULT VARIABLE, and RESULT VALUE, so that the user can check whether the results are as expected after whatever he's testing runs. Again, RESULT VARIABLE may be a global root. Anyhow, I'm not letting the user change the global by hand as you thought, I just want to let him input the darned name. I have the field defined as a node all by itself, E1-250 instead of a piece number so that the ^ won't cause errors, and it still won't let me include a ^ in the input. Thanks, Michael Reach Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
