[H] research

2007-10-11 Thread DHSinclair

Can I assume that part of the xdsl install kit will be a sheet that lists the
various IP addys for the servers I will need to use?
Servers like POP, Mail, SMTP, Login(?), DNS, etc.
I'm checking through my old Verizon credentials to see what I have/rcvd.

If not, do I cause any trouble if I spend time with WhoIs and/or my Trace
Route proggy to try and find out what I think I need?
Alternately, I suppose I could call the provider's Help Desk, but I am not
multi-lingual! LOL!

Thanks,
Duncan


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Re: [H] Making a second home PC quieter

2007-10-11 Thread Richard Kim
I have an older WD drive that has that whining sound and I absolutely agree
that it is noisy and irritating. I put that in an external case and only use
it for backups... but even the 10-15 minutes that it is usually on, it
grates at me. I have several of the newer 400GB and 500GB WD drives and
trust me when I say I can barely hear them. Replace the drives and move
onto the fan noise that will annoy you afterwards. :)

On 10/1/07, Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DHSinclair wrote:
  Anthony,
  Some simple justice here.
 
  Hard Drives- They make noise. Period.  Some less than others. Choose
  accordingly; and spend the money :)
 

 You know...you're 100% correct about this Duncan.  Sanity is worth it's
 weight in gold!  After some time, the $$$ will be meaningless, but my
 attitude, well-being, and mood could be wrecked!



Re: [H] Making a second home PC quieter

2007-10-11 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Thanks, Richard.  That's exactly what I did for that home machine.  Just going 
to a slightly younger drive killed that high-pitched whine.  I have a new CPU 
cooller (Nexus) and new case fans to put in this weekend.

I made huge progress on my office PC. Took out the loud PS, replaced the CPU 
cooler, got a fan-less PCI-e video card that supports directx 10!  I don't need 
fast for that, just need to drive two screens.  This system is in an Antec P160 
that I bought from a system house. Did even realize how nice a case it is on 
the inside until I decided to deal with the noise.  It could use some sound 
proofing, but I don't need all that at workThis box is much, much better 
than it was...which was freight-train loud.

I probably will upgrade the HDs in the work machine, though, as they are real 
noisy 250 GB WD HDs.


 Richard Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I have an older WD drive that has that whining sound and I absolutely agree
 that it is noisy and irritating. I put that in an external case and only use
 it for backups... but even the 10-15 minutes that it is usually on, it
 grates at me. I have several of the newer 400GB and 500GB WD drives and
 trust me when I say I can barely hear them. Replace the drives and move
 onto the fan noise that will annoy you afterwards. :)
 
 On 10/1/07, Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  DHSinclair wrote:
   Anthony,
   Some simple justice here.
  
   Hard Drives- They make noise. Period.  Some less than others. Choose
   accordingly; and spend the money :)
  
 
  You know...you're 100% correct about this Duncan.  Sanity is worth it's
  weight in gold!  After some time, the $$$ will be meaningless, but my
  attitude, well-being, and mood could be wrecked!
 



RE: [H] research

2007-10-11 Thread Tim The Beave Lider
If you use a gateway router you only need one address. Also, Network will be
semi secured :)  

But if you decide to go the way your thinking, they give you a list of
addresses you can use. You can use those addresses anyway you like.

Regards,

Tim The Beave Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:41 AM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] research

Can I assume that part of the xdsl install kit will be a sheet that lists
the
various IP addys for the servers I will need to use?
Servers like POP, Mail, SMTP, Login(?), DNS, etc.
I'm checking through my old Verizon credentials to see what I have/rcvd.

If not, do I cause any trouble if I spend time with WhoIs and/or my Trace
Route proggy to try and find out what I think I need?
Alternately, I suppose I could call the provider's Help Desk, but I am not
multi-lingual! LOL!

Thanks,
Duncan


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Re: [H] research

2007-10-11 Thread Ben Ruset
You should get either an email or a sheet with that info. Alternately, 
they probably have a website with that information, or you could ask 
someone on DSLReports.com.


DHSinclair wrote:
Can I assume that part of the xdsl install kit will be a sheet that 
lists the

various IP addys for the servers I will need to use?
Servers like POP, Mail, SMTP, Login(?), DNS, etc.
I'm checking through my old Verizon credentials to see what I have/rcvd.

If not, do I cause any trouble if I spend time with WhoIs and/or my Trace
Route proggy to try and find out what I think I need?
Alternately, I suppose I could call the provider's Help Desk, but I am not
multi-lingual! LOL!

Thanks,
Duncan


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Re: [H] research

2007-10-11 Thread DHSinclair

Thanks Ben,
Spent time at the bellsouth.net site and got some of the info.
And some flakey news that I'll ask in a follow-on email.
Best,
Duncan
At 14:52 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:

You should get either an email or a sheet with that info. Alternately, 
they probably have a website with that information, or you could ask 
someone on DSLReports.com.


DHSinclair wrote:

Can I assume that part of the xdsl install kit will be a sheet that lists the
various IP addys for the servers I will need to use?
Servers like POP, Mail, SMTP, Login(?), DNS, etc.

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RE: [H] research

2007-10-11 Thread DHSinclair

Thanks Tim,
Was hoping this was the case, but needed to ask the collective anyway.
73 faqs later I have some good and some notsogood info to ponder.
More q's to come... LOL!
Amazing how complex this stuff has gotten! Or, maybe it is just my AAADD
(age-affected-attention-deficit-disorder)!!
Best,
Duncan

At 14:59 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:


If you use a gateway router you only need one address. Also, Network will be
semi secured :)

But if you decide to go the way your thinking, they give you a list of
addresses you can use. You can use those addresses anyway you like.

Regards,

Tim The Beave Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[H] research questions

2007-10-11 Thread DHSinclair

OK Tim,
Believe the router is a gateway router. Maybe not.  How would I know?
From my LAN's perspective, I am treating it as my gateway.  All my 
clients have

the router's IP addy as their gateway on the tcp/ip tab.

In any case, I now have the IP addys I think I need. Some make sense, some 
do not.


Q1: I use Eudora. BellSouth seems to be dead to Eudora. A faq lists these 
email clients:

Netscape 4.0, 4.5 to 4.77, 6 or 7
Outlook Express
Outlook 97/98/2K/2K2
Hmm. But, later on (more faqs) I find a setup procedure for Mozilla 
Thunderbird.
So, all you TBird users, please advise.  I do like/own Eudora (v5.1.1) and 
would like to
continue unless it really is dead. Current plan is to use the Mozy setup 
once the channel

goes hot and see what happens.

Q2: Seems the Bellsouth blocks/filters port 25.  Believe this is PoPmail 
port. Can I switch

Eudora to IMAP and truck on with Bellsouth?

Q3: Bellsouth uses the same server (mail.bellsouth.net) for both inbound 
and outbound mail.
Is this normal?  I do know that they seem to have extensive spam, junk, 
etc, filtering. Perhaps

this is a good thing. :)

So I check out the news server for Bellsouth and find that it is:
(should I choose to do Opera or Agent!)
nxdomain.guide.opendns.com  208.69.32.130
and the server is in San Francisco, CA.
Q4: What's up with this?  Are the news channels still as polluted as they 
were in 1999?


So far, so good.  Believe my due diligence is as complete as possible. For now.
I'm off to check out Mozilla TBird..
Please accept my thanks to all who helped with replies and tips. Much 
appreciated.

Now I just have to get hold of JE to change an addy and keep List mail flowing!
Best,
Duncan


Netscape At 14:59 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:


If you use a gateway router you only need one address. Also, Network will be
semi secured :)

But if you decide to go the way your thinking, they give you a list of
addresses you can use. You can use those addresses anyway you like.

Regards,

Tim The Beave Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[H] DDR Memory Prices, WTF

2007-10-11 Thread FORC5
Pricing DDR pc3300
OMGoodness have prices jumped on other then ddr2.

fp

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Re: [H] research questions

2007-10-11 Thread DHSinclair

Thanks Wayne,
Sorry, Router is D-Link DGL-4300 (per Hayes recc). But, I will go look inside
again tonight.
Good, about Eudora/Netscape!
OK, understand the other peep's mail server.  Hmm..This will not affect 
List mail will it?

Yes, will look at Agent 4.xI don't do much news anyway.
I thought the name/addy was odd too.  Good info, tnx!
Best,
Duncan


At 17:39 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:


At 17:13 10-11-2007, DHSinclair typed:

Believe the router is a gateway router. Maybe not.  How would I know?


Under Advanced Routing under Setup for your Linksys Router you can set it 
to either Gateway or Router. If you're connected directly to a modem then 
you're probably using Gateway mode.


From my LAN's perspective, I am treating it as my gateway.  All my 
clients have

the router's IP addy as their gateway on the tcp/ip tab.

In any case, I now have the IP addys I think I need. Some make sense, 
some do not.


Q1: I use Eudora. BellSouth seems to be dead to Eudora.


No way. If you can setup Netscape then you can setup Eudora.

Q2: Seems the Bellsouth blocks/filters port 25.  Believe this is PoPmail 
port. Can I switch

Eudora to IMAP and truck on with Bellsouth?


Many ISPs block/filter the 1st 1000 ports but that doesn't mean you can't 
get your mail. It just means you can't use someone else's email server on 
port 25.


Q3: Bellsouth uses the same server (mail.bellsouth.net) for both inbound 
and outbound mail.
Is this normal?  I do know that they seem to have extensive spam, junk, 
etc, filtering. Perhaps

this is a good thing. :)


Is it normal?  It is for them. Some other ISPs may do this. Some use 
pop.isp.com while others use pop3.isp.com for incoming as it's just a 
matter of configuration on the ISPs end.



So I check out the news server for Bellsouth and find that it is:
(should I choose to do Opera or Agent!)
nxdomain.guide.opendns.com  208.69.32.130
and the server is in San Francisco, CA.
Q4: What's up with this?  Are the news channels still as polluted as 
they were in 1999?


That addy is NOT a UseNet server addy. Most of them are news.isp.com 
format  I would use the new Agent 4.x


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Re: [H] research questions

2007-10-11 Thread FORC5
Eudora should work with your provider, they just do not support it but settings 
are settings in any email program AFAIK.
Or at least I can not imagine it not working. Using Eudora 7.1.0.9. My only 
complaint is it is slow to load 1st thing in the morning for some reason. Rest 
of the day OK
fp

At 03:38 PM 10/11/2007, DHSinclair Poked the stick with:
Thanks Wayne,
Sorry, Router is D-Link DGL-4300 (per Hayes recc). But, I will go look inside
again tonight.
Good, about Eudora/Netscape!
OK, understand the other peep's mail server.  Hmm..This will not affect List 
mail will it?
Yes, will look at Agent 4.xI don't do much news anyway.
I thought the name/addy was odd too.  Good info, tnx!
Best,
Duncan


At 17:39 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:

At 17:13 10-11-2007, DHSinclair typed:
Believe the router is a gateway router. Maybe not.  How would I know?

Under Advanced Routing under Setup for your Linksys Router you can set it to 
either Gateway or Router. If you're connected directly to a modem then you're 
probably using Gateway mode.

From my LAN's perspective, I am treating it as my gateway.  All my clients 
have
the router's IP addy as their gateway on the tcp/ip tab.

In any case, I now have the IP addys I think I need. Some make sense, some 
do not.

Q1: I use Eudora. BellSouth seems to be dead to Eudora.

No way. If you can setup Netscape then you can setup Eudora.

Q2: Seems the Bellsouth blocks/filters port 25.  Believe this is PoPmail 
port. Can I switch
Eudora to IMAP and truck on with Bellsouth?

Many ISPs block/filter the 1st 1000 ports but that doesn't mean you can't get 
your mail. It just means you can't use someone else's email server on port 25.

Q3: Bellsouth uses the same server (mail.bellsouth.net) for both inbound and 
outbound mail.
Is this normal?  I do know that they seem to have extensive spam, junk, etc, 
filtering. Perhaps
this is a good thing. :)

Is it normal?  It is for them. Some other ISPs may do this. Some use 
pop.isp.com while others use pop3.isp.com for incoming as it's just a matter 
of configuration on the ISPs end.

So I check out the news server for Bellsouth and find that it is:
(should I choose to do Opera or Agent!)
nxdomain.guide.opendns.com  208.69.32.130
and the server is in San Francisco, CA.
Q4: What's up with this?  Are the news channels still as polluted as they 
were in 1999?

That addy is NOT a UseNet server addy. Most of them are news.isp.com format  
I would use the new Agent 4.x

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RE: [H] research

2007-10-11 Thread Tim The Beave Lider
Well it is quite simple.  After you select your DSL modem and Gate Router.
I myself use Linksys Cable Modem, Linksys 4 Port/Wireless-N Router and a 8
port 1GB Switch. The 1GB switch is for the high speed transferring and
streaming data off of itunes server.

Good luck in the setup,

Tim The Beave Lider
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MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:49 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] research

Thanks Tim,
Was hoping this was the case, but needed to ask the collective anyway.
73 faqs later I have some good and some notsogood info to ponder.
More q's to come... LOL!
Amazing how complex this stuff has gotten! Or, maybe it is just my AAADD
(age-affected-attention-deficit-disorder)!!
Best,
Duncan

At 14:59 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:

If you use a gateway router you only need one address. Also, Network will
be
semi secured :)

But if you decide to go the way your thinking, they give you a list of
addresses you can use. You can use those addresses anyway you like.

Regards,

Tim The Beave Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [H] DDR Memory Prices, WTF

2007-10-11 Thread Greg Sevart
Just like SD-RAM did after DDR become the norm, and FP/EDO when SD-RAM
became the norm...old mem tech gets priced up pretty fast. :)

Greg

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:29 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] DDR Memory Prices, WTF
 
 Pricing DDR pc3300
 OMGoodness have prices jumped on other then ddr2.
 
 fp
 
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RE: [H] research questions

2007-10-11 Thread Tim The Beave Lider
 OK Tim,
 Believe the router is a gateway router. Maybe not.  How would I know?
 From my LAN's perspective, I am treating it as my gateway.  All my 
 clients have
 the router's IP addy as their gateway on the tcp/ip tab.

It more than likely is a gateway router.  Most are.

 Q1: I use Eudora. BellSouth seems to be dead to Eudora. A faq lists these 
 email clients:
 Netscape 4.0, 4.5 to 4.77, 6 or 7
 Outlook Express
 Outlook 97/98/2K/2K2
 Hmm. But, later on (more faqs) I find a setup procedure for
Mozilla 
 Thunderbird.
 So, all you TBird users, please advise.  I do like/own Eudora (v5.1.1) and

 would like to
 continue unless it really is dead. Current plan is to use the Mozy setup 
 once the channel
 goes hot and see what happens.

Easy to fix.  Just use the Pop and SMPT information they use on Outlook to
the other programs. I use Outlook now because I put client/friends info and
make appointments within Outlook.

 Q2: Seems the Bellsouth blocks/filters port 25.  Believe this is PoPmail 
 port. Can I switch
 Eudora to IMAP and truck on with Bellsouth?

Most Internet providers do this.  I have problems sending mail via my work
address.  I just use my home address to send it with a reply-to my Work
Address.

 Q3: Bellsouth uses the same server (mail.bellsouth.net) for both inbound 
 and outbound mail.
 Is this normal?  I do know that they seem to have extensive spam, junk, 
 etc, filtering. Perhaps
 this is a good thing. :)

In most cases it's the norm.  I have seen it like a lot.

 So I check out the news server for Bellsouth and find that it is:
 (should I choose to do Opera or Agent!)
 nxdomain.guide.opendns.com  208.69.32.130
 and the server is in San Francisco, CA.
 Q4: What's up with this?  Are the news channels still as polluted as
they 
 were in 1999?

Oh!  Ya they are polluted with spam and pron like in those days.

 So far, so good.  Believe my due diligence is as complete as possible. For
now.
 I'm off to check out Mozilla TBird..

t-Bird is pretty good.  I did not stick with it due to the fact the usage of
Outlook in my work place.





Re: [H] research questions

2007-10-11 Thread DHSinclair
tnx FORC5. Just concerned the provider is braindead to 
Windows/Netscape-centric.

DSinc
At 18:51 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:

Eudora should work with your provider, they just do not support it but 
settings are settings in any email program AFAIK.
Or at least I can not imagine it not working. Using Eudora 7.1.0.9. My 
only complaint is it is slow to load 1st thing in the morning for some 
reason. Rest of the day OK

fp

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RE: [H] DDR Memory Prices, WTF

2007-10-11 Thread DHSinclair

Sad, but very true.  My last buy of some old EDO RAM was painful.  But,
happy to even find it (probably pulls).  No matter.
My last pending painful buy will be the registered-EDO-buffered-ECC ram for
my server. This will be fun and expensive!  Only have to do it once though! 
LOL!


Duncan
At 19:09 10/11/2007 -0400, you wrote:


Just like SD-RAM did after DDR become the norm, and FP/EDO when SD-RAM
became the norm...old mem tech gets priced up pretty fast. :)

Greg

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Re: [H] research questions

2007-10-11 Thread FORC5
thanks for the tip
give it a shot

At 07:56 PM 10/11/2007, Wayne Johnson Poked the stick with:
At 18:51 10-11-2007, FORC5 typed:
My only complaint is it is slow to load 1st thing in the morning for some 
reason.

Do you keep the big 3 emptied? I'm talking about In, Out  Trash as they are 
all loaded into ram when Eudora starts. If you filter everything to other 
folders it helps quite a bit as I have a Rec'd  Sent mailbox  I empty the 
trash on exit.


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Re: [H] New ATI drivers cause overheating?

2007-10-11 Thread j maccraw
All I know is when Steam bitched my X850XT's v7.6
driver was out of date I 
loaded Catalyst v7.9 which screwed HL2 so bad it would
not run at all even 
though other games worked (after reconfiguring them,
weird).

Put v7.6 back on, no problems and I'm there for a
while.


Scott Sipe wrote:
 Not sure if this is new Catalyst drivers or
something else--I started 
 playing oblivion again a couple days ago (after a
several month break) 
 and updated my drivers for x1900xt to the most
current Catalyst.
 
 I started getting graphical distortions almost
immediately in 
 Oblivion--messed up polygons, large miscolored blobs
appearing, etc--the 
 usual. Took me several hours to figure out
(uninstalling oblivion+mods, 
 checking system clock settings, etc) that the
current fan settings seem 
 to be WAY too conservative--I used ATI Tool to
change the card's thermal 
 settings--kicks the fan on earlier and harder, and
it works absolutely 
 fine now--in fact, I can overclock it.
 
 I DO have a custom fan--the Accelero x2--but never
had this problem 
 before the latest drivers. Anyone seen anything
similar?
 
 Scott
 
 


  

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