Re: [H] Phone-internal?
For normal in-house wiring to ONLY PHONES Cat-5 or 6 is a little over-kill. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable That might be hard to find though and I never priced it. I'm still using the old ATT 4 wire stuff. I bought a 1000' spool of it. My house was pre-wired when built with a 6 or 8 wire cable. The painters for the seller damaged the cable and shoved it in a wall and buried it by patching over it solid with plaster. I have the proper tools to find that sort of thing. Have you tried splitting your feeds (inside the house) and seeing which section has trouble? It is odd that damage occurred, and it would never? involve the entire system and EVERY run of wire. OTOH, it is like formatting a computer. Sometimes a clean sweep is better or easier. My wires are 100% fished, so I have a very hybrid system of wiring... Rick Glazier From: DSinc Phone-internal? I now appears that my homes internal phone wiring has died. I have to replace it. I remain active via a long phone cord thru a window to the TSID (NID box). What I read says I need to request Cat5/Cat6 replacement wiring. OK! Understand. Believe/think my current wiring is old 4-wire single copper line. I have read up about the cross-talk issues in 4-wire systems. Question: Is current Cat5/Cat6 internal wire single filament or multiple-filament type cable?
Re: [H] Phone-internal?
overkill is good but when I wired my new shop I used cat 3 for the phone. fp At 06:02 AM 2/11/2010, Rick Glazier Poked the stick with: For normal in-house wiring to ONLY PHONES Cat-5 or 6 is a little over-kill. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable That might be hard to find though and I never priced it. I'm still using the old ATT 4 wire stuff. I bought a 1000' spool of it. My house was pre-wired when built with a 6 or 8 wire cable. The painters for the seller damaged the cable and shoved it in a wall and buried it by patching over it solid with plaster. I have the proper tools to find that sort of thing. Have you tried splitting your feeds (inside the house) and seeing which section has trouble? It is odd that damage occurred, and it would never? involve the entire system and EVERY run of wire. OTOH, it is like formatting a computer. Sometimes a clean sweep is better or easier. My wires are 100% fished, so I have a very hybrid system of wiring... Rick Glazier From: DSinc Phone-internal? I now appears that my homes internal phone wiring has died. I have to replace it. I remain active via a long phone cord thru a window to the TSID (NID box). What I read says I need to request Cat5/Cat6 replacement wiring. OK! Understand. Believe/think my current wiring is old 4-wire single copper line. I have read up about the cross-talk issues in 4-wire systems. Question: Is current Cat5/Cat6 internal wire single filament or multiple-filament type cable? __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4857 (20100211) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Ideas may be whole- left- right- or no-brained.
Re: [H] Realtek on-board NIC question
Rick, Thanks. Like you, I am 'once burnt, twice shy!' I may still have to upgrade from the on-board Realtek NIC to a plug-in Intel NIC sometime in the future. I find the Realtek website is getting really confusing lately. So many OS choices! But, as the LAN continues to work fine. I will continue to just ignore M$. Best, Duncan On 02/11/2010 07:59, Rick Glazier wrote: Do your self a favor and hide it. NEVER trust MS over the manufacturerer of the device. I think it is too much for MS to keep track of properly, OR things are detected/IDed wrong sometimes, apparently... OR they send the wrong driver because it gets stored or linked wrong on the server. I've used MS update provided video drivers and been hosed in the past... I take their advise into consideration, but mostly ingore their hardware updates and go to the manufacture.. Rick Glazier From: DSinc (Vincent,) Thank you for the share. Yes, I do know I can hide it. I'd like to find out WHY it keeps popping up month after month.
Re: [H] Realtek on-board NIC question
Ditto here, used MS update video drivers for my nVidia card once, never again. :( - I've used MS update provided video drivers and been hosed in the past... I take their advise into consideration, but mostly ingore their hardware updates and go to the manufacture.. Rick Glazier
Re: [H] Phone-internal?
If you see damage, corrosion, or bad workmanship all over the place then all new is the obvious way to go. I made a living following around people that did bad work. (Still do.) Use the best wire you can afford. FWIW: Redesign the plan... I brought my phone lines into the house and made distribution from phone junction boxes in my basement. (Pick a better spot? in your crawl space?) I figured it was stupid to run ALL the wires to the outside, hidden in the bushes (buried in the snow).. Rick Glazier From: DSinc Rick/Forc5, Yes. I recall Cat3. No. I have not tried splitting any feeds.
Re: [H] Phone-internal?
The way to go: Cordless... phone... 5Ghz... done. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 03:45:29PM -0500, Rick Glazier wrote: If you see damage, corrosion, or bad workmanship all over the place then all new is the obvious way to go. I made a living following around people that did bad work. (Still do.) Use the best wire you can afford. FWIW: Redesign the plan... I brought my phone lines into the house and made distribution from phone junction boxes in my basement. (Pick a better spot? in your crawl space?) I figured it was stupid to run ALL the wires to the outside, hidden in the bushes (buried in the snow).. Rick Glazier From: DSinc Rick/Forc5, Yes. I recall Cat3. No. I have not tried splitting any feeds. -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get?
One of the monitors must have a Display Port connection and I'm not sure the adapter situation is straight just yet. Also, I don't think 1600x1200 will cut it but it's possible. What are they? Cathode ray? On 2/10/2010 6:11 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Don't know if you're into it, but I've been eyeing the Matrix TripleHead2GO for months (years?) now and I just read that the new 5xxx series from ATI does Eyefinity, which is basically the equivalent of that Matrox device, but BUILT-IN to the videocard, and that most games are supporting it (basically the game sees it as just one really big monitor resolution). So I got a 4830 ~1.5 years ago for $90 for my old PC, but if I upgrade again, I'm going with an ATI 5xxx series for the multi-monitor support; I've got 3 20 panels that run at 1600x1200 and I'm itching to do an RTS on all three; check out the guru3d review: http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-eyfinity-editorial-review/ The videos (especially of RTS like CoH and Anno 1404, etc) are freakin' amazing! The ability to do that in digital output at my native monitor res with no issues of support for my card (all issues with the TH2GO) makes me glad I waited this long and didn't get the TH2GO (and some of ATI cards cost less than the TH2GO itself!). In fact, the newly announced 5570 (which is their lowest/budget gaming card) is only $70 and can do this too; so if you step up to a 58xx series (since it's in your budget), you should be golden! HTH! BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Veech Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:04 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? ok I forgot to mention that my budget is around $300, and I see the ATI 5850 is available for that from NewEgg, any opinions? - Original Message - From: James Boswelltorazch...@gmail.com To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 02:16 Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? the 8800GT has 112 shaders the 8800GTS320/640 has 96 shaders the 8800GTS512 has 128 shaders the GTS250 has 128 shaders, and has had a die shrink so it's cooler and the clocks are a chunk higher, it's the one to get if you want an nvidia card of that level IMO OR look at a radeon 4890, which will be around the same performance level (I think) as your pair of 8800GTS's were and use a hell of a lot less power... or even a 5770, which is a little slower (10% or so) than the 4890 but runs cooler and has DX11 support for whenever you eventually get off of XP On 8 Feb 2010, at 08:06:310, Veech wrote: I'm thinking two of these 8800 GTs in SLI would work just fine.. opinions? Seems like they might spec higher than the two GTS cards even though they have 512MB RAM as opposed to 640MB on the GTS cards. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143118nm_mc=OTC-Fr ooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-BFG+Technologies-_-14143118 - Original Message - From: Veechve...@earthlink.net To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 23:28 Subject: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? I had two Geforce 8800GTS 640MB PCI-E cards in SLI in my system which was built about 3 years ago. About 4 months ago one went bonkers, probably overheated, so I removed it and am now running with just the other one. I play a lot of Team Fortress 2 online and after a recent Steam update I was getting some strange artifacting in the game and now am having trouble staying connected, and often the game and the computer freeze and I have to reboot. Oddly enough, the card seems to work fine under all other conditions and apps such as internet, DVD movie playing etc, but when playing TF2 online it goes nuts. So I'm thinking it may be about to go and I should consider replacing it. I haven't shopped for video cards in 3 years. I have an EVGA nForce 6801 SLI board and Core2 x6800 2.93G CPU, running XP Media Edition. What would you folks recommend for replacement video cards? I would probably stick with an SLI configuration unless a single ATI card comparably priced would blow it away. thanks!!
Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get?
One 5850 will drive 3 monitors but one must have a Display port connection and all 3 monitors have to be running the same resolution so your 30 display would have to be set to 1920x1200 like your 24 ones. On 2/10/2010 8:39 PM, Winterlight wrote: I have a couple of Asus 4970s running three monitors. I have had a lot of cooling problems with them, bad fans, and now I think one of them has other problems. How do they compare to the 5000 series. Can I get one video card that is good for games but will drive one 30 inch and two 24 inch monitors, or will I always be using two video cards to handle this? thanks -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Veech Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:04 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? ok I forgot to mention that my budget is around $300, and I see the ATI 5850 is available for that from NewEgg, any opinions? - Original Message - From: James Boswell torazch...@gmail.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 02:16 Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? the 8800GT has 112 shaders the 8800GTS320/640 has 96 shaders the 8800GTS512 has 128 shaders the GTS250 has 128 shaders, and has had a die shrink so it's cooler and the clocks are a chunk higher, it's the one to get if you want an nvidia card of that level IMO OR look at a radeon 4890, which will be around the same performance level (I think) as your pair of 8800GTS's were and use a hell of a lot less power... or even a 5770, which is a little slower (10% or so) than the 4890 but runs cooler and has DX11 support for whenever you eventually get off of XP On 8 Feb 2010, at 08:06:310, Veech wrote: I'm thinking two of these 8800 GTs in SLI would work just fine.. opinions? Seems like they might spec higher than the two GTS cards even though they have 512MB RAM as opposed to 640MB on the GTS cards. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143118nm_mc=OTC-Fr ooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-BFG+Technologies-_-14143118 - Original Message - From: Veech ve...@earthlink.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 23:28 Subject: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? I had two Geforce 8800GTS 640MB PCI-E cards in SLI in my system which was built about 3 years ago. About 4 months ago one went bonkers, probably overheated, so I removed it and am now running with just the other one. I play a lot of Team Fortress 2 online and after a recent Steam update I was getting some strange artifacting in the game and now am having trouble staying connected, and often the game and the computer freeze and I have to reboot. Oddly enough, the card seems to work fine under all other conditions and apps such as internet, DVD movie playing etc, but when playing TF2 online it goes nuts. So I'm thinking it may be about to go and I should consider replacing it. I haven't shopped for video cards in 3 years. I have an EVGA nForce 6801 SLI board and Core2 x6800 2.93G CPU, running XP Media Edition. What would you folks recommend for replacement video cards? I would probably stick with an SLI configuration unless a single ATI card comparably priced would blow it away. thanks!!
Re: [H] Phone-internal?
Bryan, Understand. I have one. Still need lines for dsl and ADT. Not completely troglodyte. Duncan On 02/11/2010 16:14, Bryan Seitz wrote: The way to go: Cordless... phone... 5Ghz... done. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 03:45:29PM -0500, Rick Glazier wrote: If you see damage, corrosion, or bad workmanship all over the place then all new is the obvious way to go. I made a living following around people that did bad work. (Still do.) Use the best wire you can afford. FWIW: Redesign the plan... I brought my phone lines into the house and made distribution from phone junction boxes in my basement. (Pick a better spot? in your crawl space?) I figured it was stupid to run ALL the wires to the outside, hidden in the bushes (buried in the snow).. Rick Glazier From: DSinc Rick/Forc5, Yes. I recall Cat3. No. I have not tried splitting any feeds.
Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get?
Hey Stan, Not sure I understand what you mean by I don't think 1600x1200 will cut it but it's possible...? Are you trying to say that's too many pixels or the reverse...? *confused* In my case, the monitors are 20 Dell flat-panel LCDs, two 2001FPs and one 2007FP and I read you can use a Displayport-DVI converter and it should work...unless you have heard differently? BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:56 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? One of the monitors must have a Display Port connection and I'm not sure the adapter situation is straight just yet. Also, I don't think 1600x1200 will cut it but it's possible. What are they? Cathode ray? On 2/10/2010 6:11 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Don't know if you're into it, but I've been eyeing the Matrix TripleHead2GO for months (years?) now and I just read that the new 5xxx series from ATI does Eyefinity, which is basically the equivalent of that Matrox device, but BUILT-IN to the videocard, and that most games are supporting it (basically the game sees it as just one really big monitor resolution). So I got a 4830 ~1.5 years ago for $90 for my old PC, but if I upgrade again, I'm going with an ATI 5xxx series for the multi-monitor support; I've got 3 20 panels that run at 1600x1200 and I'm itching to do an RTS on all three; check out the guru3d review: http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-eyfinity-editorial-review/ The videos (especially of RTS like CoH and Anno 1404, etc) are freakin' amazing! The ability to do that in digital output at my native monitor res with no issues of support for my card (all issues with the TH2GO) makes me glad I waited this long and didn't get the TH2GO (and some of ATI cards cost less than the TH2GO itself!). In fact, the newly announced 5570 (which is their lowest/budget gaming card) is only $70 and can do this too; so if you step up to a 58xx series (since it's in your budget), you should be golden! HTH! BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Veech Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:04 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? ok I forgot to mention that my budget is around $300, and I see the ATI 5850 is available for that from NewEgg, any opinions? - Original Message - From: James Boswelltorazch...@gmail.com To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 02:16 Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? the 8800GT has 112 shaders the 8800GTS320/640 has 96 shaders the 8800GTS512 has 128 shaders the GTS250 has 128 shaders, and has had a die shrink so it's cooler and the clocks are a chunk higher, it's the one to get if you want an nvidia card of that level IMO OR look at a radeon 4890, which will be around the same performance level (I think) as your pair of 8800GTS's were and use a hell of a lot less power... or even a 5770, which is a little slower (10% or so) than the 4890 but runs cooler and has DX11 support for whenever you eventually get off of XP On 8 Feb 2010, at 08:06:310, Veech wrote: I'm thinking two of these 8800 GTs in SLI would work just fine.. opinions? Seems like they might spec higher than the two GTS cards even though they have 512MB RAM as opposed to 640MB on the GTS cards. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143118nm_mc=OTC-Fr ooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-BFG+Technologies-_-14143118 - Original Message - From: Veechve...@earthlink.net To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 23:28 Subject: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? I had two Geforce 8800GTS 640MB PCI-E cards in SLI in my system which was built about 3 years ago. About 4 months ago one went bonkers, probably overheated, so I removed it and am now running with just the other one. I play a lot of Team Fortress 2 online and after a recent Steam update I was getting some strange artifacting in the game and now am having trouble staying connected, and often the game and the computer freeze and I have to reboot. Oddly enough, the card seems to work fine under all other conditions and apps such as internet, DVD movie playing etc, but when playing TF2 online it goes nuts. So I'm thinking it may be about to go and I should consider replacing it. I haven't shopped for video cards in 3 years. I have an EVGA nForce 6801 SLI board and Core2 x6800 2.93G CPU, running XP Media Edition. What would you
Re: [H] Phone-internal?
Oh yeah I spose those are important hehe! ;) On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 05:11:05PM -0500, DSinc wrote: Bryan, Understand. I have one. Still need lines for dsl and ADT. Not completely troglodyte. Duncan On 02/11/2010 16:14, Bryan Seitz wrote: The way to go: Cordless... phone... 5Ghz... done. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 03:45:29PM -0500, Rick Glazier wrote: If you see damage, corrosion, or bad workmanship all over the place then all new is the obvious way to go. I made a living following around people that did bad work. (Still do.) Use the best wire you can afford. FWIW: Redesign the plan... I brought my phone lines into the house and made distribution from phone junction boxes in my basement. (Pick a better spot? in your crawl space?) I figured it was stupid to run ALL the wires to the outside, hidden in the bushes (buried in the snow).. Rick Glazier From: DSinc Rick/Forc5, Yes. I recall Cat3. No. I have not tried splitting any feeds. -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get?
This video article is old but it's a pretty good review of the technology and how it's hooked up and Catalyst is setup. Good luck and let us know about your experience if you decide to do it. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/09/28/amds_ati_eyefinity_technology_review/ On 2/11/2010 4:34 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Hey Stan, Not sure I understand what you mean by I don't think 1600x1200 will cut it but it's possible...? Are you trying to say that's too many pixels or the reverse...? *confused* In my case, the monitors are 20 Dell flat-panel LCDs, two 2001FPs and one 2007FP and I read you can use a Displayport-DVI converter and it should work...unless you have heard differently? BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:56 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? One of the monitors must have a Display Port connection and I'm not sure the adapter situation is straight just yet. Also, I don't think 1600x1200 will cut it but it's possible. What are they? Cathode ray? On 2/10/2010 6:11 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: Don't know if you're into it, but I've been eyeing the Matrix TripleHead2GO for months (years?) now and I just read that the new 5xxx series from ATI does Eyefinity, which is basically the equivalent of that Matrox device, but BUILT-IN to the videocard, and that most games are supporting it (basically the game sees it as just one really big monitor resolution). So I got a 4830 ~1.5 years ago for $90 for my old PC, but if I upgrade again, I'm going with an ATI 5xxx series for the multi-monitor support; I've got 3 20 panels that run at 1600x1200 and I'm itching to do an RTS on all three; check out the guru3d review: http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-eyfinity-editorial-review/ The videos (especially of RTS like CoH and Anno 1404, etc) are freakin' amazing! The ability to do that in digital output at my native monitor res with no issues of support for my card (all issues with the TH2GO) makes me glad I waited this long and didn't get the TH2GO (and some of ATI cards cost less than the TH2GO itself!). In fact, the newly announced 5570 (which is their lowest/budget gaming card) is only $70 and can do this too; so if you step up to a 58xx series (since it's in your budget), you should be golden! HTH! BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Veech Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:04 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? ok I forgot to mention that my budget is around $300, and I see the ATI 5850 is available for that from NewEgg, any opinions? - Original Message - From: James Boswelltorazch...@gmail.com To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 02:16 Subject: Re: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? the 8800GT has 112 shaders the 8800GTS320/640 has 96 shaders the 8800GTS512 has 128 shaders the GTS250 has 128 shaders, and has had a die shrink so it's cooler and the clocks are a chunk higher, it's the one to get if you want an nvidia card of that level IMO OR look at a radeon 4890, which will be around the same performance level (I think) as your pair of 8800GTS's were and use a hell of a lot less power... or even a 5770, which is a little slower (10% or so) than the 4890 but runs cooler and has DX11 support for whenever you eventually get off of XP On 8 Feb 2010, at 08:06:310, Veech wrote: I'm thinking two of these 8800 GTs in SLI would work just fine.. opinions? Seems like they might spec higher than the two GTS cards even though they have 512MB RAM as opposed to 640MB on the GTS cards. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143118nm_mc=OTC-Fr ooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-BFG+Technologies-_-14143118 - Original Message - From: Veechve...@earthlink.net To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 23:28 Subject: [H] Replacing 2 Geforce 8800 GTS in SLI, what to get? I had two Geforce 8800GTS 640MB PCI-E cards in SLI in my system which was built about 3 years ago. About 4 months ago one went bonkers, probably overheated, so I removed it and am now running with just the other one. I play a lot of Team Fortress 2 online and after a recent Steam update I was getting some strange artifacting in the game and now am having trouble staying connected, and
Re: [H] Phone-internal?
We had a room on a slab. Hard to fish. Cordless works great, but we still have our old wired phones from 25 years ago and are on our third sets of cordless ones... Can't win... Rick Glazier From: Bryan Seitz Phone-internal? The way to go: Cordless... phone... 5Ghz... done.
