Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-10 Thread GPL
Yeah... it sucks, but what'ya gunna do?! As far as laptops, I have the
old Inspiron 600m in use. HA, thought it was fully retired. It's lost
its power panel and I see the MB below it. Plus, ITS SLOW, needs a
format new install. But it's got me online. I miss my Inspiron 15.
However, a few months ago I dropped it at the airport security. It
worked well months later but it did have a crack. Ill get another one,
maybe an Inspiron 17. I got it at dell outlet. Im sure Ill dell outlet
 it again.

Ordered the rest of my parts to finish the build. RAN OUT OF  for
the SSD because I'm waiting on a check that has not been sent to me
yet from a March invoice but in its place I grabbed a 1TB drive to get
going. I'll certainly grab the 80GB or so SSD drive and reinstall OS
if need be on it. Getting sick of seeing all those parts sitting here
in the room.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Stan Zaske  wrote:
> Sorry to hear about the break-in. Hope they catch those thieves.
>
> On 5/10/2010 1:03 PM, GPL wrote:
>>
>> You guys have totally polluted my thread. LOL...
>>
>> I have all the parts here in house right now except for the HD which I
>> will order today. I'm actually lucky to still have them. My house was
>> broken into last week. We lost jewelry and my laptop and a few other
>> little things but the stack of new PC equipment was never touched. I
>> would still be crying if they took all that new stuff.
>>
>> The loss of family jewelry was tough enough to deal with. The laptop
>> was bad too but I can always get another . It had a password so unless
>> these are super hackers too I doubt they can login. I've gone through
>> the whole identity theft process and insurance, police report process.
>> What a nightmare.
>>
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Bryan Seitz  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> haha I WEI on your face
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:54:46AM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:
>>>

 He said Vista. The WEI scale tops out at 5.9 in Vista, and 7.9 in W7.


>
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:33 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
>
> 5.9 sounds like the HDD speed bringing you down. My now aging Q6600
> gives
> me that much, with the rest of the system rating 7.1.
>
> It's been awhile since I've transcoded DVD but 27min sounds on the high
>

 side

>
> unless the GPU is not playing a role.
>
> On 5/9/2010 3:18 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it
>> was recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance.
>>


>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bryan G. Seitz
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs -ClearOS

2010-05-10 Thread Greg Sevart
Definitely a different target audience. I consider pfSense to be appropriate
in many circumstances where something like a Cisco ASA (especially the 5505,
5510, and 5520 levels) would be a more traditional appliance
solution--basically, a more corporate or enterprise requirement set. That
explains the truly spectacular rules engine/interface, CARP (patent-free
alternative to VRRP) stateful failover, WAN proxy ARP addresses, etc. The
interface actually reminds me a great deal of a CheckPoint device--which I
find appealing. That's clearly not the target for ClearOS, or even dd-wrt,
as was previously mentioned.

> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 6:58 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs -ClearOS
> 
> ClearOS does look pretty cool, definitely more features and more hand
> holding than pfsense but still neat if you need it.
> (I use PfSense and it suits me fine, but no kids to censor! :) )




Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs -ClearOS

2010-05-10 Thread tmservo
The bandwidth controls and access lists + time limts are genious items in it 
that help set it apart.  Being able to do things like say, "youtube is blocked 
except between 12-1pm staff lunch hour" is great stuff.  

Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Seitz 
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 19:58:18 
To: 
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs -ClearOS

ClearOS does look pretty cool, definitely more features and more hand holding 
than pfsense but still neat if you need it.
(I use PfSense and it suits me fine, but no kids to censor! :) )

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 03:32:26PM -0700, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
> Same here, I love it. In fact ClearOS looks a lot more polished than CC and 
> still runs pretty decent on minimal hardware. For example, I upgraded my 
> little embedded 4 port box (600MHz celeron) from CC4 to ClearOS. I've got 1GB 
> ram. This little box runs a proxy server with content filtering (for the 
> kids), AV scans all incoming traffic and downloads, runs a large blacklist, 
> running Misterhouse (home automation with a X10 firecracker connected to 
> internal serial - not visible on outside), also running two Quake 3 servers 
> and a WorldofPadman server, and just installed VQmanager (Voip analysis) 
> software and have all VOIP traffic mirrored to the box. Everything still 
> running smoothly which is amazing to me since it's very low power hardware. I 
> used a dremel to add a USB port to the enclosure and have USB sound card 
> running the home automation announcements, etc.
> 
> lopaka
> 
> 
> I'm still very happy with clearos (was clark). I'm using it on a via epia 
> dual gigabit board. Stable.  Works fine. 
> Sent via BlackBerry 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: maccrawj 
> Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:11:45 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> 
> Well for home use this sounds like overkill especially if it needs more than 
> a little 
> 12W embedded device to run. I do see where a larger setup could benefit from 
> it, but 
> that's apples to oranges.
> 
> On 5/10/2010 6:41 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:
> > Yes. You can use pfSense as an access point I think, but that really isn't
> > its purpose. It is designed to be a firewall and/or router first and
> > foremost. If you did implement one, you'd probably want to take any existing
> > device that you have performing routing/firewall/NAT duties and disable
> > those functions.
> >
> > You could configure pfSense as a transparent firewall in front of or behind
> > your existing router, but that's honestly not going to provide a great deal
> > of value in most implementations.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> >> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
> >> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:17 AM
> >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> >>
> >> I see.
> >>
> >> Very interesting.
> >>
> >> But if I wanted a pfSense box, then that would make my router redundant.
> >> I would have to just use it as an AP right?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> >> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
> >> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:14 PM
> >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> >>
> >> pfSense was forked from m0n0wall several years ago to provide expanded
> >> features not consistent with m0n0wall's minimalist approach suitable to
> >> smaller, embedded systems. It also uses the (IMO) more robust and less
> >> quirky BSD packet filter (pf) instead of ipfw. They offer a similar
> > interface and
> >> either one should be fairly familiar if you've used the other.
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> >>> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
> >>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:03 AM
> >>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> >>>
> >>> What's better?  pfSENSE or M0n0wall?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs -ClearOS

2010-05-10 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Sometimes I think these guys have another list where they figure all 
this stuff out.


On 5/10/2010 6:52 PM, DSinc wrote:

Lopaka,
UDAMan, Bro!
No. I do not wish to know where you learn all this stuff?
Happy that you did it! Very nice reads.
Best,
Duncan



On 05/10/2010 18:32, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

Same here, I love it. In fact ClearOS looks a lot more polished than
CC and still runs pretty decent on minimal hardware. For example, I
upgraded my little embedded 4 port box (600MHz celeron) from CC4 to
ClearOS. I've got 1GB ram. This little box runs a proxy server with
content filtering (for the kids), AV scans all incoming traffic and
downloads, runs a large blacklist, running Misterhouse (home
automation with a X10 firecracker connected to internal serial - not
visible on outside), also running two Quake 3 servers and a
WorldofPadman server, and just installed VQmanager (Voip analysis)
software and have all VOIP traffic mirrored to the box. Everything
still running smoothly which is amazing to me since it's very low
power hardware. I used a dremel to add a USB port to the enclosure
and have USB sound card running the home automation announcements,
etc.

lopaka


I'm still very happy with clearos (was clark). I'm using it on a via
epia dual gigabit board. Stable.  Works fine. Sent via BlackBerry

-Original Message- From: maccrawj Date:
Mon, 10 May 2010 14:11:45 To: Subject:
Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

Well for home use this sounds like overkill especially if it needs
more than a little 12W embedded device to run. I do see where a
larger setup could benefit from it, but that's apples to oranges.

On 5/10/2010 6:41 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:

Yes. You can use pfSense as an access point I think, but that
really isn't its purpose. It is designed to be a firewall and/or
router first and foremost. If you did implement one, you'd probably
want to take any existing device that you have performing
routing/firewall/NAT duties and disable those functions.

You could configure pfSense as a transparent firewall in front of
or behind your existing router, but that's honestly not going to
provide a great deal of value in most implementations.


-Original Message- From:
hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent:
Monday, May 10, 2010 8:17 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

I see.

Very interesting.

But if I wanted a pfSense box, then that would make my router
redundant. I would have to just use it as an AP right?



-Original Message- From:
hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Sevart Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:14 PM To:
hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100
Mpbs

pfSense was forked from m0n0wall several years ago to provide
expanded features not consistent with m0n0wall's minimalist
approach suitable to smaller, embedded systems. It also uses the
(IMO) more robust and less quirky BSD packet filter (pf) instead
of ipfw. They offer a similar

interface and

either one should be fairly familiar if you've used the other.


-Original Message- From:
hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent:
Monday, May 10, 2010 8:03 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

What's better?  pfSENSE or M0n0wall?















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Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs -ClearOS

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Seitz
ClearOS does look pretty cool, definitely more features and more hand holding 
than pfsense but still neat if you need it.
(I use PfSense and it suits me fine, but no kids to censor! :) )

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 03:32:26PM -0700, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
> Same here, I love it. In fact ClearOS looks a lot more polished than CC and 
> still runs pretty decent on minimal hardware. For example, I upgraded my 
> little embedded 4 port box (600MHz celeron) from CC4 to ClearOS. I've got 1GB 
> ram. This little box runs a proxy server with content filtering (for the 
> kids), AV scans all incoming traffic and downloads, runs a large blacklist, 
> running Misterhouse (home automation with a X10 firecracker connected to 
> internal serial - not visible on outside), also running two Quake 3 servers 
> and a WorldofPadman server, and just installed VQmanager (Voip analysis) 
> software and have all VOIP traffic mirrored to the box. Everything still 
> running smoothly which is amazing to me since it's very low power hardware. I 
> used a dremel to add a USB port to the enclosure and have USB sound card 
> running the home automation announcements, etc.
> 
> lopaka
> 
> 
> I'm still very happy with clearos (was clark). I'm using it on a via epia 
> dual gigabit board. Stable.  Works fine. 
> Sent via BlackBerry 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: maccrawj 
> Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:11:45 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> 
> Well for home use this sounds like overkill especially if it needs more than 
> a little 
> 12W embedded device to run. I do see where a larger setup could benefit from 
> it, but 
> that's apples to oranges.
> 
> On 5/10/2010 6:41 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:
> > Yes. You can use pfSense as an access point I think, but that really isn't
> > its purpose. It is designed to be a firewall and/or router first and
> > foremost. If you did implement one, you'd probably want to take any existing
> > device that you have performing routing/firewall/NAT duties and disable
> > those functions.
> >
> > You could configure pfSense as a transparent firewall in front of or behind
> > your existing router, but that's honestly not going to provide a great deal
> > of value in most implementations.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> >> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
> >> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:17 AM
> >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> >>
> >> I see.
> >>
> >> Very interesting.
> >>
> >> But if I wanted a pfSense box, then that would make my router redundant.
> >> I would have to just use it as an AP right?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> >> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
> >> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:14 PM
> >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> >>
> >> pfSense was forked from m0n0wall several years ago to provide expanded
> >> features not consistent with m0n0wall's minimalist approach suitable to
> >> smaller, embedded systems. It also uses the (IMO) more robust and less
> >> quirky BSD packet filter (pf) instead of ipfw. They offer a similar
> > interface and
> >> either one should be fairly familiar if you've used the other.
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> >>> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
> >>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:03 AM
> >>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> >>>
> >>> What's better?  pfSENSE or M0n0wall?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs -ClearOS

2010-05-10 Thread DSinc

Lopaka,
UDAMan, Bro!
No. I do not wish to know where you learn all this stuff?
Happy that you did it! Very nice reads.
Best,
Duncan



On 05/10/2010 18:32, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

Same here, I love it. In fact ClearOS looks a lot more polished than
CC and still runs pretty decent on minimal hardware. For example, I
upgraded my little embedded 4 port box (600MHz celeron) from CC4 to
ClearOS. I've got 1GB ram. This little box runs a proxy server with
content filtering (for the kids), AV scans all incoming traffic and
downloads, runs a large blacklist, running Misterhouse (home
automation with a X10 firecracker connected to internal serial - not
visible on outside), also running two Quake 3 servers and a
WorldofPadman server, and just installed VQmanager (Voip analysis)
software and have all VOIP traffic mirrored to the box. Everything
still running smoothly which is amazing to me since it's very low
power hardware. I used a dremel to add a USB port to the enclosure
and have USB sound card running the home automation announcements,
etc.

lopaka


I'm still very happy with clearos (was clark). I'm using it on a via
epia dual gigabit board. Stable.  Works fine. Sent via BlackBerry

-Original Message- From: maccrawj Date:
Mon, 10 May 2010 14:11:45 To: Subject:
Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

Well for home use this sounds like overkill especially if it needs
more than a little 12W embedded device to run. I do see where a
larger setup could benefit from it, but that's apples to oranges.

On 5/10/2010 6:41 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:

Yes. You can use pfSense as an access point I think, but that
really isn't its purpose. It is designed to be a firewall and/or
router first and foremost. If you did implement one, you'd probably
want to take any existing device that you have performing
routing/firewall/NAT duties and disable those functions.

You could configure pfSense as a transparent firewall in front of
or behind your existing router, but that's honestly not going to
provide a great deal of value in most implementations.


-Original Message- From:
hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent:
Monday, May 10, 2010 8:17 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

I see.

Very interesting.

But if I wanted a pfSense box, then that would make my router
redundant. I would have to just use it as an AP right?



-Original Message- From:
hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Sevart Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:14 PM To:
hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100
Mpbs

pfSense was forked from m0n0wall several years ago to provide
expanded features not consistent with m0n0wall's minimalist
approach suitable to smaller, embedded systems. It also uses the
(IMO) more robust and less quirky BSD packet filter (pf) instead
of ipfw. They offer a similar

interface and

either one should be fairly familiar if you've used the other.


-Original Message- From:
hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar Sent:
Monday, May 10, 2010 8:03 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

What's better?  pfSENSE or M0n0wall?














Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs -ClearOS

2010-05-10 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
Same here, I love it. In fact ClearOS looks a lot more polished than CC and 
still runs pretty decent on minimal hardware. For example, I upgraded my little 
embedded 4 port box (600MHz celeron) from CC4 to ClearOS. I've got 1GB ram. 
This little box runs a proxy server with content filtering (for the kids), AV 
scans all incoming traffic and downloads, runs a large blacklist, running 
Misterhouse (home automation with a X10 firecracker connected to internal 
serial - not visible on outside), also running two Quake 3 servers and a 
WorldofPadman server, and just installed VQmanager (Voip analysis) software and 
have all VOIP traffic mirrored to the box. Everything still running smoothly 
which is amazing to me since it's very low power hardware. I used a dremel to 
add a USB port to the enclosure and have USB sound card running the home 
automation announcements, etc.

lopaka


I'm still very happy with clearos (was clark). I'm using it on a via epia dual 
gigabit board. Stable.  Works fine. 
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: maccrawj 
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:11:45 
To: 
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

Well for home use this sounds like overkill especially if it needs more than a 
little 
12W embedded device to run. I do see where a larger setup could benefit from 
it, but 
that's apples to oranges.

On 5/10/2010 6:41 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:
> Yes. You can use pfSense as an access point I think, but that really isn't
> its purpose. It is designed to be a firewall and/or router first and
> foremost. If you did implement one, you'd probably want to take any existing
> device that you have performing routing/firewall/NAT duties and disable
> those functions.
>
> You could configure pfSense as a transparent firewall in front of or behind
> your existing router, but that's honestly not going to provide a great deal
> of value in most implementations.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
>> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:17 AM
>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
>>
>> I see.
>>
>> Very interesting.
>>
>> But if I wanted a pfSense box, then that would make my router redundant.
>> I would have to just use it as an AP right?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
>> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:14 PM
>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
>>
>> pfSense was forked from m0n0wall several years ago to provide expanded
>> features not consistent with m0n0wall's minimalist approach suitable to
>> smaller, embedded systems. It also uses the (IMO) more robust and less
>> quirky BSD packet filter (pf) instead of ipfw. They offer a similar
> interface and
>> either one should be fairly familiar if you've used the other.
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
>>> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:03 AM
>>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>>> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
>>>
>>> What's better?  pfSENSE or M0n0wall?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-10 Thread Stan Zaske

Sorry to hear about the break-in. Hope they catch those thieves.

On 5/10/2010 1:03 PM, GPL wrote:

You guys have totally polluted my thread. LOL...

I have all the parts here in house right now except for the HD which I
will order today. I'm actually lucky to still have them. My house was
broken into last week. We lost jewelry and my laptop and a few other
little things but the stack of new PC equipment was never touched. I
would still be crying if they took all that new stuff.

The loss of family jewelry was tough enough to deal with. The laptop
was bad too but I can always get another . It had a password so unless
these are super hackers too I doubt they can login. I've gone through
the whole identity theft process and insurance, police report process.
What a nightmare.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Bryan Seitz  wrote:
   

haha I WEI on your face

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:54:46AM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:
 

He said Vista. The WEI scale tops out at 5.9 in Vista, and 7.9 in W7.

   

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:33 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

5.9 sounds like the HDD speed bringing you down. My now aging Q6600 gives
me that much, with the rest of the system rating 7.1.

It's been awhile since I've transcoded DVD but 27min sounds on the high
 

side
   

unless the GPU is not playing a role.

On 5/9/2010 3:18 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
 

Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it
was recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance.
   
   

--

Bryan G. Seitz

 
   




Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs????

2010-05-10 Thread tmservo
I'm still very happy with clearos (was clark). I'm using it on a via epia dual 
gigabit board. Stable.  Works fine. 
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: maccrawj 
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:11:45 
To: 
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

Well for home use this sounds like overkill especially if it needs more than a 
little 
12W embedded device to run. I do see where a larger setup could benefit from 
it, but 
that's apples to oranges.

On 5/10/2010 6:41 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:
> Yes. You can use pfSense as an access point I think, but that really isn't
> its purpose. It is designed to be a firewall and/or router first and
> foremost. If you did implement one, you'd probably want to take any existing
> device that you have performing routing/firewall/NAT duties and disable
> those functions.
>
> You could configure pfSense as a transparent firewall in front of or behind
> your existing router, but that's honestly not going to provide a great deal
> of value in most implementations.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
>> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:17 AM
>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
>>
>> I see.
>>
>> Very interesting.
>>
>> But if I wanted a pfSense box, then that would make my router redundant.
>> I would have to just use it as an AP right?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
>> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:14 PM
>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
>>
>> pfSense was forked from m0n0wall several years ago to provide expanded
>> features not consistent with m0n0wall's minimalist approach suitable to
>> smaller, embedded systems. It also uses the (IMO) more robust and less
>> quirky BSD packet filter (pf) instead of ipfw. They offer a similar
> interface and
>> either one should be fairly familiar if you've used the other.
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
>>> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
>>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:03 AM
>>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>>> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
>>>
>>> What's better?  pfSENSE or M0n0wall?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-10 Thread maccrawj

OK, did not know that about WEI not that I rely on it as a benchmark.

Just ripped & compressed 50% with DVDFAB7, 14min. Of course if were talking handbrake 
I found it drags ass for some reason.


On 5/9/2010 10:54 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:

He said Vista. The WEI scale tops out at 5.9 in Vista, and 7.9 in W7.


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:33 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

5.9 sounds like the HDD speed bringing you down. My now aging Q6600 gives
me that much, with the rest of the system rating 7.1.

It's been awhile since I've transcoded DVD but 27min sounds on the high

side

unless the GPU is not playing a role.

On 5/9/2010 3:18 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:

Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it
was recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance.






Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs????

2010-05-10 Thread maccrawj
Well for home use this sounds like overkill especially if it needs more than a little 
12W embedded device to run. I do see where a larger setup could benefit from it, but 
that's apples to oranges.


On 5/10/2010 6:41 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:

Yes. You can use pfSense as an access point I think, but that really isn't
its purpose. It is designed to be a firewall and/or router first and
foremost. If you did implement one, you'd probably want to take any existing
device that you have performing routing/firewall/NAT duties and disable
those functions.

You could configure pfSense as a transparent firewall in front of or behind
your existing router, but that's honestly not going to provide a great deal
of value in most implementations.


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:17 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

I see.

Very interesting.

But if I wanted a pfSense box, then that would make my router redundant.
I would have to just use it as an AP right?



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:14 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

pfSense was forked from m0n0wall several years ago to provide expanded
features not consistent with m0n0wall's minimalist approach suitable to
smaller, embedded systems. It also uses the (IMO) more robust and less
quirky BSD packet filter (pf) instead of ipfw. They offer a similar

interface and

either one should be fairly familiar if you've used the other.


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:03 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

What's better?  pfSENSE or M0n0wall?












Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-10 Thread maccrawj
Ah man that's big time fraked up! Probably meth heads on a run for stuff that sells 
quick. With any luck the jewelry will lead the police to the pawn shop where they 
offload it.


The identity theft thing is major good idea as are rotating any passwords that might 
be remembered by the laptop since you don't have to log in to get it's data assuming 
no encryption.


Scum of the earth, lower than lawyers and telemarketers!


On 5/10/2010 11:03 AM, GPL wrote:

You guys have totally polluted my thread. LOL...

I have all the parts here in house right now except for the HD which I
will order today. I'm actually lucky to still have them. My house was
broken into last week. We lost jewelry and my laptop and a few other
little things but the stack of new PC equipment was never touched. I
would still be crying if they took all that new stuff.

The loss of family jewelry was tough enough to deal with. The laptop
was bad too but I can always get another . It had a password so unless
these are super hackers too I doubt they can login. I've gone through
the whole identity theft process and insurance, police report process.
What a nightmare.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Bryan Seitz  wrote:


haha I WEI on your face

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:54:46AM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:

He said Vista. The WEI scale tops out at 5.9 in Vista, and 7.9 in W7.


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:33 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

5.9 sounds like the HDD speed bringing you down. My now aging Q6600 gives
me that much, with the rest of the system rating 7.1.

It's been awhile since I've transcoded DVD but 27min sounds on the high

side

unless the GPU is not playing a role.

On 5/9/2010 3:18 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:

Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it
was recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance.




--

Bryan G. Seitz





Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-10 Thread DSinc

GPL,
So sorry to hear of your loss.
This now hardens me to even harder security!
Damnit! What is wrong with America?
Best,
Duncan


On 05/10/2010 14:03, GPL wrote:

You guys have totally polluted my thread. LOL...

I have all the parts here in house right now except for the HD which I
will order today. I'm actually lucky to still have them. My house was
broken into last week. We lost jewelry and my laptop and a few other
little things but the stack of new PC equipment was never touched. I
would still be crying if they took all that new stuff.

The loss of family jewelry was tough enough to deal with. The laptop
was bad too but I can always get another . It had a password so unless
these are super hackers too I doubt they can login. I've gone through
the whole identity theft process and insurance, police report process.
What a nightmare.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Bryan Seitz  wrote:


haha I WEI on your face

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:54:46AM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:

He said Vista. The WEI scale tops out at 5.9 in Vista, and 7.9 in W7.


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:33 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

5.9 sounds like the HDD speed bringing you down. My now aging Q6600 gives
me that much, with the rest of the system rating 7.1.

It's been awhile since I've transcoded DVD but 27min sounds on the high

side

unless the GPU is not playing a role.

On 5/9/2010 3:18 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:

Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it
was recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance.




--

Bryan G. Seitz





Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-10 Thread GPL
You guys have totally polluted my thread. LOL...

I have all the parts here in house right now except for the HD which I
will order today. I'm actually lucky to still have them. My house was
broken into last week. We lost jewelry and my laptop and a few other
little things but the stack of new PC equipment was never touched. I
would still be crying if they took all that new stuff.

The loss of family jewelry was tough enough to deal with. The laptop
was bad too but I can always get another . It had a password so unless
these are super hackers too I doubt they can login. I've gone through
the whole identity theft process and insurance, police report process.
What a nightmare.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Bryan Seitz  wrote:
>
> haha I WEI on your face
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:54:46AM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:
>> He said Vista. The WEI scale tops out at 5.9 in Vista, and 7.9 in W7.
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
>> > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
>> > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:33 PM
>> > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>> > Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
>> >
>> > 5.9 sounds like the HDD speed bringing you down. My now aging Q6600 gives
>> > me that much, with the rest of the system rating 7.1.
>> >
>> > It's been awhile since I've transcoded DVD but 27min sounds on the high
>> side
>> > unless the GPU is not playing a role.
>> >
>> > On 5/9/2010 3:18 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
>> > > Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it
>> > > was recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance.
>>
>
> --
>
> Bryan G. Seitz
>


Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-10 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
I've used a few a scrapped all of them. Very slooow and intermittently glitchy. 
I still have a couple sitting at home somewhere.

lopaka





From: Anthony Q. Martin 
To: The Hardware List 
Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 6:22:18 AM
Subject: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

Since I have both Tivo and a Blu-ray player downstairs, I'm think that perhaps 
a powerline adapter would be a better option. That way, I could connect both 
devices over a powerline network rather than using a special adapter for Tivo 
and nothing for the Blu-ray. And, if I get an XBox or something like that, I 
have a ready solution for networking.  From some reading, the logic goes that a 
wired ethernet connection is best, followed by a powerline connect, and then a 
wireless connection. Is that true?  I live in a two story house, so one 
wondering if the wiring is truly connected between the levels.

Anyone played with one?

I guess I can be the tester...


-

So I hear that Tivo now has an 802.11n wireless adapter.

I get spoiled watching HD movies from Amazon on my Tivo XL.

Having the speed of 802.11n would make the transfers faster.

But my laptops are 802.11b and g. Will they work on an 802.11n system?  Are the 
backward compaticable?

Would my new phone (Droid Incredible), when I get it, be able to use 802.11n on 
its WiFi?  What about an iPad?  Is everything new these days 802.11n ready?

I just read the descriptions of two different products on Amazon and neither of 
them mentioned backwards compatibility.  That makes me think it's not there.

If it is there, which router is best?


Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs????

2010-05-10 Thread Greg Sevart
Yes. You can use pfSense as an access point I think, but that really isn't
its purpose. It is designed to be a firewall and/or router first and
foremost. If you did implement one, you'd probably want to take any existing
device that you have performing routing/firewall/NAT duties and disable
those functions.

You could configure pfSense as a transparent firewall in front of or behind
your existing router, but that's honestly not going to provide a great deal
of value in most implementations.

> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:17 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> 
> I see.
> 
> Very interesting.
> 
> But if I wanted a pfSense box, then that would make my router redundant.
> I would have to just use it as an AP right?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:14 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> 
> pfSense was forked from m0n0wall several years ago to provide expanded
> features not consistent with m0n0wall's minimalist approach suitable to
> smaller, embedded systems. It also uses the (IMO) more robust and less
> quirky BSD packet filter (pf) instead of ipfw. They offer a similar
interface and
> either one should be fairly familiar if you've used the other.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:03 AM
> > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> >
> > What's better?  pfSENSE or M0n0wall?
> >
> >
> 
> 





Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Seitz

haha I WEI on your face

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:54:46AM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:
> He said Vista. The WEI scale tops out at 5.9 in Vista, and 7.9 in W7.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
> > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:33 PM
> > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
> > 
> > 5.9 sounds like the HDD speed bringing you down. My now aging Q6600 gives
> > me that much, with the rest of the system rating 7.1.
> > 
> > It's been awhile since I've transcoded DVD but 27min sounds on the high
> side
> > unless the GPU is not playing a role.
> > 
> > On 5/9/2010 3:18 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
> > > Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it
> > > was recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance.
> 

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs????

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Seitz
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 01:07:25AM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote:
> I've pushed over 240mbit/s on my D-Link DIR-655 N "router" (which I use as
> nothing more than an AP) and an Intel 5300 NIC. You don't have to run dual
> frequency, but that was with a double (40MHz) channel.
> 
> I know that the dd-wrt project is quite popular, but for router and/or
> firewall duties, think they're all garbage compared to pfSensebut will
> allow that I have a complex setup with unusual requirements.

Agreed.  And I just use mine as a wireless bridge anyway, I don't care what it 
runs.
If I used it as a router in a public place or some other specialized situation 
I would
definitely want dd-wrt.

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs????

2010-05-10 Thread Naushad, Zulfiqar
I see.

Very interesting.

But if I wanted a pfSense box, then that would make my router redundant.
I would have to just use it as an AP right?

 

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:14 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

pfSense was forked from m0n0wall several years ago to provide expanded
features not consistent with m0n0wall's minimalist approach suitable to
smaller, embedded systems. It also uses the (IMO) more robust and less
quirky BSD packet filter (pf) instead of ipfw. They offer a similar
interface and either one should be fairly familiar if you've used the
other.

> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:03 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> 
> What's better?  pfSENSE or M0n0wall?
> 
> 





Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs????

2010-05-10 Thread Greg Sevart
pfSense was forked from m0n0wall several years ago to provide expanded
features not consistent with m0n0wall's minimalist approach suitable to
smaller, embedded systems. It also uses the (IMO) more robust and less
quirky BSD packet filter (pf) instead of ipfw. They offer a similar
interface and either one should be fairly familiar if you've used the other.

> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad, Zulfiqar
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:03 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> 
> What's better?  pfSENSE or M0n0wall?
> 
> 





Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs????

2010-05-10 Thread Naushad, Zulfiqar
What's better?  pfSENSE or M0n0wall?
 

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:00 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

1. That's why I run the N in N-only mode and have another b/g WAP in a
non-overlapping channel. Same basic concept as dual radio. Point remains
that you can exceed 100mbit on N gear fairly easily.
2. Yes, compared to the features, robustness, and performance of
pfSense,
dd-wrt based appliances are garbage. To suggest otherwise is "loony".

> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:23 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> 
> 1. If you don't run a 2 radio setup, then non-N devices will kill the
240mb
> speed.
> 2. Garbage, LOL, OK next loony please!
> 
> 
> On 5/9/2010 11:07 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:
> > I've pushed over 240mbit/s on my D-Link DIR-655 N "router" (which I
> > use as nothing more than an AP) and an Intel 5300 NIC. You don't
have
> > to run dual frequency, but that was with a double (40MHz) channel.
> >
> > I know that the dd-wrt project is quite popular, but for router
and/or
> > firewall duties, think they're all garbage compared to
pfSensebut
> > will allow that I have a complex setup with unusual requirements.




Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs????

2010-05-10 Thread Greg Sevart
1. That's why I run the N in N-only mode and have another b/g WAP in a
non-overlapping channel. Same basic concept as dual radio. Point remains
that you can exceed 100mbit on N gear fairly easily.
2. Yes, compared to the features, robustness, and performance of pfSense,
dd-wrt based appliances are garbage. To suggest otherwise is "loony".

> -Original Message-
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:23 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs
> 
> 1. If you don't run a 2 radio setup, then non-N devices will kill the
240mb
> speed.
> 2. Garbage, LOL, OK next loony please!
> 
> 
> On 5/9/2010 11:07 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:
> > I've pushed over 240mbit/s on my D-Link DIR-655 N "router" (which I
> > use as nothing more than an AP) and an Intel 5300 NIC. You don't have
> > to run dual frequency, but that was with a double (40MHz) channel.
> >
> > I know that the dd-wrt project is quite popular, but for router and/or
> > firewall duties, think they're all garbage compared to pfSensebut
> > will allow that I have a complex setup with unusual requirements.




Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-10 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
All of the wifi bridges I have seen just support one device on the other 
end...and I'm not sure it would really solve the problems with wireless 
dropping out (I don't know if it is a tivo problem or a wireless 
problem, as the tivo will drop while the wireless PC are still 
going)...that's half the problem...and the other is just lack of speed 
on HD downloads (amazon) and file transfers from tivo to PC.


Dropping a wire down through a wall into a crawl space on the other end 
of the house and then running under the house is a  major pain.  I did 
that for my rear speakers in my big room, but that was just across one 
room and the crawl space there is easy to get to.  There is much less 
room on the computer end of the house...Powerline adapters, if they 
work, is more than a sufficient solution.  If they work, which we'll see 
soon enough.


On 5/10/2010 8:30 AM, maccrawj wrote:
A wifi bridge is just that and there are more than a few out there. 
AFAIK, take an old WRT54G(S) w/ dd-wrt & it can be setup to work in 
reverse as a client/bridge instead of an AP/Router. Don't know if 
that's going to work better than simply putting the devices on the 
wifi directly though.


IMHO it does not take major construction to run a single drop across a 
basement & up through the floor in most houses, YMMV. 99% of the time 
that's what I wold do, the other 1% I simply run wire around edges of 
room! ;)


Let us know how it works out
On 5/10/2010 4:54 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

What I really need (if the powerline is no good) is a wireless
link down there and then that out to ethernet portsis there a
product that does that?




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Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-10 Thread maccrawj
A wifi bridge is just that and there are more than a few out there. AFAIK, take an 
old WRT54G(S) w/ dd-wrt & it can be setup to work in reverse as a client/bridge 
instead of an AP/Router. Don't know if that's going to work better than simply 
putting the devices on the wifi directly though.


IMHO it does not take major construction to run a single drop across a basement & up 
through the floor in most houses, YMMV. 99% of the time that's what I wold do, the 
other 1% I simply run wire around edges of room! ;)


Let us know how it works out
On 5/10/2010 4:54 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

What I really need (if the powerline is no good) is a wireless
link down there and then that out to ethernet portsis there a
product that does that?



Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs????

2010-05-10 Thread maccrawj

1. If you don't run a 2 radio setup, then non-N devices will kill the 240mb 
speed.
2. Garbage, LOL, OK next loony please!


On 5/9/2010 11:07 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:

I've pushed over 240mbit/s on my D-Link DIR-655 N "router" (which I use as
nothing more than an AP) and an Intel 5300 NIC. You don't have to run dual
frequency, but that was with a double (40MHz) channel.

I know that the dd-wrt project is quite popular, but for router and/or
firewall duties, think they're all garbage compared to pfSensebut will
allow that I have a complex setup with unusual requirements.


Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs????

2010-05-10 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
I hate to be a hater...but I seriously don't want to get any more apple 
stuff over my lifetime.  I have too many ipods as it is and I just don't 
like how they keep it all locked down. And since they got in bed with 
AT&T and locked me out of an iPhone upgrade, I'm going to become a loyal 
Android fan...I'll get the Incredible Phone and whatever slate computer 
that comes out with the Android OS...that'll show em!  I have a feeling 
I'll be better offuntil, of course, it comes time to be hatein on 
Google (I hope that time is not now)...


On 5/10/2010 12:41 AM, maccrawj wrote:

Make sure you read up on it vs. the linksys WRT610's!

Oh, and screw apple anything for various reason even if they poop gold 
eggs!



On 5/9/2010 5:24 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Naw...I'll stick with the Netgear that you mentioned. I was just trying
to explain to Duncan about the port and mentioned why the USB port could
be nicebut I use Windows 7 homegroups, so I can easly move files
between PCs. And my printer is wireless too, so I can print to it from
the various computers. The Airport seems more for mac users to me...my
3700 should be hear early this week...

On 5/9/2010 5:01 AM, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote:

Get an Apple Extreme Router then. It should fit the bill.

They are good routers too.


Please note my new mobile number listed in my signature.

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Martin
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 11:55 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] 1000 Mbps vs 100 Mpbs

Yeah, but some of the other routers seem to offer much higher
performance in this area. Backups aren't the only thing...moving files
and share files are other good reasons to have a cheap USB drive on the
router.

On 5/9/2010 1:37 AM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:

Aside from small files yes, the usb is dog slow for backups or

anything of

that sort.

It's more of a handy thing other than anything.

If you're serious about backups, a NAS would be more "proper".



On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:46 AM, Anthony Q.

Martinwrote:



Duncan,

At lot of the dual-band wirless N routers have a usb port of them for
connecting an HD that is then available to machines connected for

backups

etc. over the network. One disadvantage of the WNDR3700 is that it is

really

slow for file transfers even on a 1Gbit network (which you'd have if

you

have it). So, that's the one of two negatives about this router.

Still, I'm

going to get it as they all have pros and cons.

On 5/8/2010 7:27 PM, DSinc wrote:



Anthony,
What do you mean by, "Too bad the storage is so slow, though." ??
If your current router is only capable of 10/100, then your current

LAN is

only capable of 10/100. Even with G-Bit cards installed in devices.
I think, anyway.
Duncan


On 05/08/2010 15:32, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:



Yes, as Bryan says and I have confirmed. I guess I didn't realize

how

long it has been since I paid any attention to my network. Even

with the

powerline adapters, which claim a max throughput of 200 Mbps, I'd

have

to get a newer& better router to get that (or the best real world
numbers I can get).

So, I guess I'll go with the Netgear WNDR3700 if no one else chimes

in

with a reason not too. It seems to be rated as highly as any other

and

has some cool features. Too bad the storage is so slow, though.

On 5/8/2010 3:20 PM, Gaffer wrote:



On Saturday 08 May 2010 18:23:39 Anthony Q. Martin wrote:



I'm using a linksys wrt54g with a wsb24 booster.

My mothers claim to do 1000 Mbps yet on file transfers I only get
like 11 MB/s which is more like 100Mpbs/8 = 12.5 MB/s. If my

wired

network is running at 1000 Mbps shouldn't I bet getting around

125

MB/s file transfers over the wired network?

What gives?



Your speeds will only be as fast as the slowest link in the chain.

If I

recall the wrt54g is only 10/100 Mbs on the Ethernet ports.




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Re: [H] Powerline adapter (rather than wireless N)

2010-05-10 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
This stuff ought to be here by Wednesday, so I'll test it out and give a 
report in terms of performance.


I certainly don't expect it to be a good as Gb Ethernet, but it cost way 
less in a house built in 1988. And my experience with wireless has not 
be stellar...too many drops on the wireless to the tivo, even when the 
PC wireless network is working.  I'm hoping for both an improvement in 
speed and reliability with the wired powerline network.  If the legs 
aren't connected then I'll know quickly and just return the parts to 
amazon.  When I'll just get the new wireless N Tivo adapter, though that 
is not at all a good solution since the other items will not have 'net 
access. What I really need (if the powerline is no good) is a wireless 
link down there and then that out to ethernet portsis there a 
product that does that?


On 5/10/2010 12:28 AM, maccrawj wrote:
I just looked quickly and did not find a definitive answer as to which 
conductor carries the signal. Neutral being tied to earth ground at 
the SE would likely eat the signal IMO.


From what I've seen over the past 30 years with X10 "carrier current 
operated switches" they have the Achilles heel that signals do not 
travel between the two "legs" of power feed without an active 220V 
device running or a signal coupler added at the mains service panel to 
join the legs. PNA's would not be a panacea given that line noise 
would be an issue, this has been very true of X10 remote control systems.


Best bet is still a single CAT 6 or 5E drop terminating at Gb Ethernet 
switch to feed the devices. Of course it really depends on how much 
throughput you need and if latency plays a role as to if power line or 
wireless bridge makes more sense.



On 5/8/2010 6:46 AM, DSinc wrote:

Anthony,
Your wiring should be; IF you only have a single breaker panel/load
center. I am not familiar with powerline adapters. I would hope that it
uses the AC Neutral (white) power line because all the white wires
should be tied together at the commoning bus. JMHO.
Best,
Duncan







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Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build

2010-05-10 Thread Stan Zaske

This box is running Vista not Win7 so the score only goes up to 5.9 tops.


On 5/9/2010 11:33 PM, maccrawj wrote:
5.9 sounds like the HDD speed bringing you down. My now aging Q6600 
gives me that much, with the rest of the system rating 7.1.


It's been awhile since I've transcoded DVD but 27min sounds on the 
high side unless the GPU is not playing a role.


On 5/9/2010 3:18 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:

Well, I got my 1055T yesterday and with the latest Gigabyte BIOS it was
recognized just fine and Vista gives me a 5.9 on performance. CoolNQuiet
is enabled and AMD Turbo Core may or may not work as I've not placed
that big a load on it yet. I'm crunching down a 7.5 gig DVD movie to 700
MB's and it's ETA is 27 minutes. All 6 cores are being used and
processor usage is around 50 %. Default vcore is 1.2750 at 2.8 GHz and I
haven't tried overclocking because frankly I'm not interested. It's fast
enough as it is but most people are reporting 4.2 GHz stable on air
cooling with 1.5 or 1.55 volts. Real nice so far and I couldn't be more
pleased.