Re: [H] Reflowing and reballing
There's a couple guys on ebay that do it and have good feedback scores, and a few electronic repair places online. If the 2 I get back in a week or so (Coming from Kentucky) are working well I give you the guys contact info. I did the original x-clamp mod and reset on both of these and they each worked for about a year or so longer but now needed the reball which is beyond my capability. lopaka From: Thane Sherrington To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wed, March 27, 2013 4:23:54 PM Subject: Re: [H] Reflowing and reballing At 08:02 PM 27/03/2013, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: >It is not only a cold solder issue. That's how the problem starts. You can >successfully reflow and console a few times but if it was heavily used >eventually the motherboard needs to be "reballed" and often with a >new GPU chip >(varies from $10-20) for that part and $50-90 for the work. Where do you get that sort of work done? T
Re: [H] Reflowing and reballing
At 08:02 PM 27/03/2013, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: It is not only a cold solder issue. That's how the problem starts. You can successfully reflow and console a few times but if it was heavily used eventually the motherboard needs to be "reballed" and often with a new GPU chip (varies from $10-20) for that part and $50-90 for the work. Where do you get that sort of work done? T
Re: [H] Reflowing and reballing
At 07:53 PM 27/03/2013, Eli Allen wrote: They are very real terms: http://www.us-tech.com/RelId/743480/pagenum/2/ISvars/default/Repair%252c_Rework%252c_and_Reball_Solder_Ball.htm Just a descriptive term of what you do with the solder Ok, I guess I don't hang out with the cool kids enough. :) T
Re: [H] Reflowing and reballing
Reball is all older solder removed and new solder balls installed reattaching the GPU/CPU to mainboard :) lopaka From: Thane Sherrington To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wed, March 27, 2013 3:26:23 PM Subject: [H] Reflowing and reballing I hadn't heard these terms until today. Are they as much BS, as I take them to be? It sounds sort of moronic to refer to replacing the solder on chips as "reballing". Isn't this really a cold solder issue? T
Re: [H] Reflowing and reballing
It is not only a cold solder issue. That's how the problem starts. You can successfully reflow and console a few times but if it was heavily used eventually the motherboard needs to be "reballed" and often with a new GPU chip (varies from $10-20) for that part and $50-90 for the work. I have 2 boxes that just got finished being reballed and are getting sent back this week. If the problem is the GPU, a reball with new GPU could outlast a new console with reball and extra cooling mods lopaka From: Thane Sherrington To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wed, March 27, 2013 3:26:23 PM Subject: [H] Reflowing and reballing I hadn't heard these terms until today. Are they as much BS, as I take them to be? It sounds sort of moronic to refer to replacing the solder on chips as "reballing". Isn't this really a cold solder issue? T
Re: [H] Reflowing and reballing
They are very real terms: http://www.us-tech.com/RelId/743480/pagenum/2/ISvars/default/Repair%252c_Rework%252c_and_Reball_Solder_Ball.htm Just a descriptive term of what you do with the solder On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote: > I hadn't heard these terms until today. Are they as much BS, as I take them > to be? It sounds sort of moronic to refer to replacing the solder on chips > as "reballing". Isn't this really a cold solder issue? > > T > >
Re: [H] Reflowing and reballing
Well, yes, it sounds like it to me, but I do accept that 'ball' mounted devices are different the 'flowed' devices. I accept that 'flowed' devices where/are already placed into the 'plane' before the flow. I suspect that 'ball' devices are handled differently. JMHO. Duncan On 03/27/2013 18:23, Thane Sherrington wrote: I hadn't heard these terms until today. Are they as much BS, as I take them to be? It sounds sort of moronic to refer to replacing the solder on chips as "reballing". Isn't this really a cold solder issue? T
[H] Reflowing and reballing
I hadn't heard these terms until today. Are they as much BS, as I take them to be? It sounds sort of moronic to refer to replacing the solder on chips as "reballing". Isn't this really a cold solder issue? T
Re: [H] Core 2nd vs 3nd Gen
A former TI process engineer ran a bunch of detailed experiments with delidding and different mounts / TIMs on his 3770K : http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2261855 Seemed to help a lot. The 2500K was a heckuva lot easier to OC (4.7GHz) than the 3570K that replaced it (only managed ~4.4GHz). At 11:40 AM 3/26/2013, you wrote: just watched a utube where a guy pulled off the heat spreader of a ivy bridge and cleaned and re applied good thermal paste directly to the core to fix this issue. seems like a fix for a non problem unless one is overclocking, which I do not do anymore. also seems like one could mess up a expensive cpu very easily. FYI fp -- Jin-Wei Tioh http://jwtioh.bluesonic.net "Death is just God's way of dropping Carrier Detect"
