Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function
Duncan, The problem of copying large amount of files has been a problem with Windows since I can remember. So, this is not really a problem with Windows 8. On Windows 8's defense it does a lot better at handling the files while copying them. Regards, On July 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Another W8 glitch? Sheesh! Read in the paper last weekend that MS will release 'something' called Windows 8.1 this September. Don't know whether this is an upgrade, a patch, or whatever. Article mentions many fixes from their 'complaints' mail. WUP? Still no 'START button' Bummer... :( Duncan On 07/05/2013 21:57, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve this. But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize this thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and it says your target already has 868 of these files.. Oh.. Hmm. Interesting. So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. I see them. I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period). Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they could be there originally anyway, but still interesting. Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function
This is true, however, I have been using OPUS explorer replacement since switching to Windows XP, and ever since, I have never had a problem copying anything. In fact, I had completely forgotten that there ever was a Windows copying problem. w At 06:06 AM 7/7/2013, you wrote: Duncan, The problem of copying large amount of files has been a problem with Windows since I can remember. So, this is not really a problem with Windows 8. On Windows 8's defense it does a lot better at handling the files while copying them. Regards, On July 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Another W8 glitch? Sheesh! Read in the paper last weekend that MS will release 'something' called Windows 8.1 this September. Don't know whether this is an upgrade, a patch, or whatever. Article mentions many fixes from their 'complaints' mail. WUP? Still no 'START button' Bummer... :( Duncan On 07/05/2013 21:57, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve this. But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize this thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and it says your target already has 868 of these files.. Oh.. Hmm. Interesting. So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. I see them. I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period). Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they could be there originally anyway, but still interesting. Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function
Windows 8.1 does reintroduce the Start Button to show that they are listening to the customer but crucially not the Start Menu. In 8.1 there's an option to boot into the classic desktop with a Start Button. But when you press that button it simply launches the Metro UI. Methinks that's not going to placate the pitchforks. Brian Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2013, at 15:26, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: This is true, however, I have been using OPUS explorer replacement since switching to Windows XP, and ever since, I have never had a problem copying anything. In fact, I had completely forgotten that there ever was a Windows copying problem. w At 06:06 AM 7/7/2013, you wrote: Duncan, The problem of copying large amount of files has been a problem with Windows since I can remember. So, this is not really a problem with Windows 8. On Windows 8's defense it does a lot better at handling the files while copying them. Regards, On July 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote: Another W8 glitch? Sheesh! Read in the paper last weekend that MS will release 'something' called Windows 8.1 this September. Don't know whether this is an upgrade, a patch, or whatever. Article mentions many fixes from their 'complaints' mail. WUP? Still no 'START button' Bummer... :( Duncan On 07/05/2013 21:57, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve this. But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize this thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and it says your target already has 868 of these files.. Oh.. Hmm. Interesting. So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. I see them. I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period). Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they could be there originally anyway, but still interesting. Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function
I personally always LOVED powertoys *send too* command. why that was never inter graded I'll not understand . miss it At 06:57 PM 7/5/2013, tmse...@rlrnews.com Poked the stick with: Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve this. But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize this thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and it says your target already has 868 of these files.. Oh.. Hmm. Interesting. So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. I see them. I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period). Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they could be there originally anyway, but still interesting. Date: Sunday, July 7th, 2013 ***Caution, Tagline Below *** **Tallyho** ** The floggings will continue until morale improves! **
Re: [H] Nas 3.0
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:14:00AM -0700, Tim Lider wrote: I have not done a project like that . When I price out a NAS project it is actually less expensive (when you think of equipment and time) to get one premade. The NAS' we use are WD's right now. The boss also does not like to have the TB size of the NAS' too large, I limit the size to around 8TB to 12TB. If you do make a NAS with NAS4Free, I have looked into it, remember it is a software RAID not a Hardware RAID. What do I mean by that? Software RAID's are basically made using a Volume Manager (usually Linux VLM or VLM2), hardware RAID's are actually considered a 1 physical disk to the PC when managing the Volume(s) at the operating system level. I myself prefer hardware RAID setups. This is due to the ease of replacing disks if needed. Also, Hardware RAID's are a bit easier to recover when things go bad. Have a great weekend all, Anything using ZFS makes replacements quite easy to be honest. Also with ZFS my disks can be on any controller I can dig up...onboard, addin card, etc With hardware raid if your controller eats it you have to find the same card / family to import your config. Personally I would not use anything BUT zfs right now as far as mass storage goes. For OS disks I still prefer hardware raid. -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Nas 3.0
I ended up going with flexraid. So far, very happy with it. 18tb avail in one array and 26tb in the other. All good so far. -Original Message- From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Sent: 7/7/2013 6:45 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nas 3.0 On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:14:00AM -0700, Tim Lider wrote: I have not done a project like that . When I price out a NAS project it is actually less expensive (when you think of equipment and time) to get one premade. The NAS' we use are WD's right now. The boss also does not like to have the TB size of the NAS' too large, I limit the size to around 8TB to 12TB. If you do make a NAS with NAS4Free, I have looked into it, remember it is a software RAID not a Hardware RAID. What do I mean by that? Software RAID's are basically made using a Volume Manager (usually Linux VLM or VLM2), hardware RAID's are actually considered a 1 physical disk to the PC when managing the Volume(s) at the operating system level. I myself prefer hardware RAID setups. This is due to the ease of replacing disks if needed. Also, Hardware RAID's are a bit easier to recover when things go bad. Have a great weekend all, Anything using ZFS makes replacements quite easy to be honest. Also with ZFS my disks can be on any controller I can dig up...onboard, addin card, etc With hardware raid if your controller eats it you have to find the same card / family to import your config. Personally I would not use anything BUT zfs right now as far as mass storage goes. For OS disks I still prefer hardware raid. -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Nas 3.0
flexraid is zfs-based? On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I ended up going with flexraid. So far, very happy with it. 18tb avail in one array and 26tb in the other. All good so far. -Original Message- From: Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net Sent: 7/7/2013 6:45 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nas 3.0 On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 05:14:00AM -0700, Tim Lider wrote: I have not done a project like that . When I price out a NAS project it is actually less expensive (when you think of equipment and time) to get one premade. The NAS' we use are WD's right now. The boss also does not like to have the TB size of the NAS' too large, I limit the size to around 8TB to 12TB. If you do make a NAS with NAS4Free, I have looked into it, remember it is a software RAID not a Hardware RAID. What do I mean by that? Software RAID's are basically made using a Volume Manager (usually Linux VLM or VLM2), hardware RAID's are actually considered a 1 physical disk to the PC when managing the Volume(s) at the operating system level. I myself prefer hardware RAID setups. This is due to the ease of replacing disks if needed. Also, Hardware RAID's are a bit easier to recover when things go bad. Have a great weekend all, Anything using ZFS makes replacements quite easy to be honest. Also with ZFS my disks can be on any controller I can dig up...onboard, addin card, etc With hardware raid if your controller eats it you have to find the same card / family to import your config. Personally I would not use anything BUT zfs right now as far as mass storage goes. For OS disks I still prefer hardware raid. -- Bryan G. Seitz
