Re: [H] NAS Software
Are you using WHS2011 for streaming? I'm assuming that flexraid can be used standalone? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I've been using whs2011+flexraid. Whs2011 can be found for $29. I paid $39 for flexraid. I currently have 48tb online and performance has been really solid -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/11/2013 5:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] NAS Software After picking up some scrap hardware, most notably a couple of E8400's, I've got a bunch of stuff to build a NAS. For software, I want something that will give me some sort of parity, so that I can replace a dead drive without loosing stuff and the ability to add storage without doing a nuke and reinstall. I looked at FreeNAS, but that's a pain to increase storage, but then noticed UnRaid (I think it's been mentioned here before), which seems to fit the bill. Anyone familiar with UnRaid --- good/bad points --- or is there some other software I missed? Free is to be preferred, but UnRaid seems to be worth the extra $70. Thanks...Steve
Re: [H] NAS Software
I've been using FlexRAID for the last few years to run my HTPC and I really like it. Much more flexible than traditional RAID and you also it's much harder to completely lose everything. - Brian On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.comwrote: Are you using WHS2011 for streaming? I'm assuming that flexraid can be used standalone? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I've been using whs2011+flexraid. Whs2011 can be found for $29. I paid $39 for flexraid. I currently have 48tb online and performance has been really solid -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/11/2013 5:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] NAS Software After picking up some scrap hardware, most notably a couple of E8400's, I've got a bunch of stuff to build a NAS. For software, I want something that will give me some sort of parity, so that I can replace a dead drive without loosing stuff and the ability to add storage without doing a nuke and reinstall. I looked at FreeNAS, but that's a pain to increase storage, but then noticed UnRaid (I think it's been mentioned here before), which seems to fit the bill. Anyone familiar with UnRaid --- good/bad points --- or is there some other software I missed? Free is to be preferred, but UnRaid seems to be worth the extra $70. Thanks...Steve
Re: [H] NAS Software
Flexraid runs on top of any windows os. Whs2011 can be had very cheaply -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/12/2013 8:03 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] NAS Software Are you using WHS2011 for streaming? I'm assuming that flexraid can be used standalone? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I've been using whs2011+flexraid. Whs2011 can be found for $29. I paid $39 for flexraid. I currently have 48tb online and performance has been really solid -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/11/2013 5:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] NAS Software After picking up some scrap hardware, most notably a couple of E8400's, I've got a bunch of stuff to build a NAS. For software, I want something that will give me some sort of parity, so that I can replace a dead drive without loosing stuff and the ability to add storage without doing a nuke and reinstall. I looked at FreeNAS, but that's a pain to increase storage, but then noticed UnRaid (I think it's been mentioned here before), which seems to fit the bill. Anyone familiar with UnRaid --- good/bad points --- or is there some other software I missed? Free is to be preferred, but UnRaid seems to be worth the extra $70. Thanks...Steve
Re: [H] NAS Software
Yeah, I found a discussion comparing Flexraid to Unraid. For me, they are identical except for two issues: Flexraid can add disks with data already on them (Unraid can't) while Unraid can run the OS from a USB stick, saving a MB SATA port, while Flexraid requires one disk for the OS. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Flexraid runs on top of any windows os. Whs2011 can be had very cheaply -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/12/2013 8:03 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] NAS Software Are you using WHS2011 for streaming? I'm assuming that flexraid can be used standalone? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I've been using whs2011+flexraid. Whs2011 can be found for $29. I paid $39 for flexraid. I currently have 48tb online and performance has been really solid -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/11/2013 5:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] NAS Software After picking up some scrap hardware, most notably a couple of E8400's, I've got a bunch of stuff to build a NAS. For software, I want something that will give me some sort of parity, so that I can replace a dead drive without loosing stuff and the ability to add storage without doing a nuke and reinstall. I looked at FreeNAS, but that's a pain to increase storage, but then noticed UnRaid (I think it's been mentioned here before), which seems to fit the bill. Anyone familiar with UnRaid --- good/bad points --- or is there some other software I missed? Free is to be preferred, but UnRaid seems to be worth the extra $70. Thanks...Steve
Re: [H] NAS Software
Unraid is basically a special version of slackware linux. I used to use Unraid and switched over to Synology at 2x the cost. a. 1 disk failure tolerance for Unraid - I wanted 2 (which Synology offered with their hybrid raid setup) b. Unraid performance is great if you use a cache disk (SSD), same as Synology (without cache disk) c. When a disk fails, how do I know which one failed? (Unraid) ... I don't want to look at each of my drives and read the label. d. Wanted a lower power footprint so it can last longer on UPS. My 16-drive Unraid tower used a 600W PSU, my 13-drive Synology uses less than half that. It basically boiled down to the fact that I have less time and tolerance to deal with the little issues that come up on homegrown solutions that forced me to go with a much more expensive but polished product. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, I found a discussion comparing Flexraid to Unraid. For me, they are identical except for two issues: Flexraid can add disks with data already on them (Unraid can't) while Unraid can run the OS from a USB stick, saving a MB SATA port, while Flexraid requires one disk for the OS. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Flexraid runs on top of any windows os. Whs2011 can be had very cheaply -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/12/2013 8:03 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] NAS Software Are you using WHS2011 for streaming? I'm assuming that flexraid can be used standalone? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I've been using whs2011+flexraid. Whs2011 can be found for $29. I paid $39 for flexraid. I currently have 48tb online and performance has been really solid -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/11/2013 5:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] NAS Software After picking up some scrap hardware, most notably a couple of E8400's, I've got a bunch of stuff to build a NAS. For software, I want something that will give me some sort of parity, so that I can replace a dead drive without loosing stuff and the ability to add storage without doing a nuke and reinstall. I looked at FreeNAS, but that's a pain to increase storage, but then noticed UnRaid (I think it's been mentioned here before), which seems to fit the bill. Anyone familiar with UnRaid --- good/bad points --- or is there some other software I missed? Free is to be preferred, but UnRaid seems to be worth the extra $70. Thanks...Steve
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All good points, Alex, except for the cost. A Synology system would cost me $500 to $800 without disks and limit me in number of disks. Right now I have disks a system, the only cost would be the software. As it is, I can't find WHS2011 for less than $49.99 (where'd you find it for $29.99, Chris?), adding flexraid would be another $80.00. Or go with Unraid for $70.00 (or free if I limit myself to 3 disks). Does Synology do an array of differing size disks? Steve On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Alex Lee a...@kukaki.net wrote: Unraid is basically a special version of slackware linux. I used to use Unraid and switched over to Synology at 2x the cost. a. 1 disk failure tolerance for Unraid - I wanted 2 (which Synology offered with their hybrid raid setup) b. Unraid performance is great if you use a cache disk (SSD), same as Synology (without cache disk) c. When a disk fails, how do I know which one failed? (Unraid) ... I don't want to look at each of my drives and read the label. d. Wanted a lower power footprint so it can last longer on UPS. My 16-drive Unraid tower used a 600W PSU, my 13-drive Synology uses less than half that. It basically boiled down to the fact that I have less time and tolerance to deal with the little issues that come up on homegrown solutions that forced me to go with a much more expensive but polished product. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I found a discussion comparing Flexraid to Unraid. For me, they are identical except for two issues: Flexraid can add disks with data already on them (Unraid can't) while Unraid can run the OS from a USB stick, saving a MB SATA port, while Flexraid requires one disk for the OS. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Flexraid runs on top of any windows os. Whs2011 can be had very cheaply -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/12/2013 8:03 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] NAS Software Are you using WHS2011 for streaming? I'm assuming that flexraid can be used standalone? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I've been using whs2011+flexraid. Whs2011 can be found for $29. I paid $39 for flexraid. I currently have 48tb online and performance has been really solid -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/11/2013 5:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] NAS Software After picking up some scrap hardware, most notably a couple of E8400's, I've got a bunch of stuff to build a NAS. For software, I want something that will give me some sort of parity, so that I can replace a dead drive without loosing stuff and the ability to add storage without doing a nuke and reinstall. I looked at FreeNAS, but that's a pain to increase storage, but then noticed UnRaid (I think it's been mentioned here before), which seems to fit the bill. Anyone familiar with UnRaid --- good/bad points --- or is there some other software I missed? Free is to be preferred, but UnRaid seems to be worth the extra $70. Thanks...Steve
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Yes it does support different disk sizes in their Synology Hybrid Raid setup (1 or 2 disk fault tolerance). Like I said, Synology isn't cheap but I wanted less hassles and a smaller footprint (power, size, etc) - I ended up re-using most of my Unraid disks, plus a few new ones for the Synology since I had to maintain my Unraid array, copy to Synology, turn down Unraid, repurpose old Unraid drives. I'm at ~34TB with 8x 4TB + 5x 3TB with room for 5 more drives. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.comwrote: All good points, Alex, except for the cost. A Synology system would cost me $500 to $800 without disks and limit me in number of disks. Right now I have disks a system, the only cost would be the software. As it is, I can't find WHS2011 for less than $49.99 (where'd you find it for $29.99, Chris?), adding flexraid would be another $80.00. Or go with Unraid for $70.00 (or free if I limit myself to 3 disks). Does Synology do an array of differing size disks? Steve On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Alex Lee a...@kukaki.net wrote: Unraid is basically a special version of slackware linux. I used to use Unraid and switched over to Synology at 2x the cost. a. 1 disk failure tolerance for Unraid - I wanted 2 (which Synology offered with their hybrid raid setup) b. Unraid performance is great if you use a cache disk (SSD), same as Synology (without cache disk) c. When a disk fails, how do I know which one failed? (Unraid) ... I don't want to look at each of my drives and read the label. d. Wanted a lower power footprint so it can last longer on UPS. My 16-drive Unraid tower used a 600W PSU, my 13-drive Synology uses less than half that. It basically boiled down to the fact that I have less time and tolerance to deal with the little issues that come up on homegrown solutions that forced me to go with a much more expensive but polished product. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I found a discussion comparing Flexraid to Unraid. For me, they are identical except for two issues: Flexraid can add disks with data already on them (Unraid can't) while Unraid can run the OS from a USB stick, saving a MB SATA port, while Flexraid requires one disk for the OS. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Flexraid runs on top of any windows os. Whs2011 can be had very cheaply -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/12/2013 8:03 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] NAS Software Are you using WHS2011 for streaming? I'm assuming that flexraid can be used standalone? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I've been using whs2011+flexraid. Whs2011 can be found for $29. I paid $39 for flexraid. I currently have 48tb online and performance has been really solid -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/11/2013 5:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] NAS Software After picking up some scrap hardware, most notably a couple of E8400's, I've got a bunch of stuff to build a NAS. For software, I want something that will give me some sort of parity, so that I can replace a dead drive without loosing stuff and the ability to add storage without doing a nuke and reinstall. I looked at FreeNAS, but that's a pain to increase storage, but then noticed UnRaid (I think it's been mentioned here before), which seems to fit the bill. Anyone familiar with UnRaid --- good/bad points --- or is there some other software I missed? Free is to be preferred, but UnRaid seems to be worth the extra $70. Thanks...Steve
Re: [H] NAS Software
I'm a super big fan of Synology devices. Have a 5 bay version and another 5 bay ESATA hanging off that. Works peachy. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Alex Lee a...@kukaki.net wrote: Yes it does support different disk sizes in their Synology Hybrid Raid setup (1 or 2 disk fault tolerance). Like I said, Synology isn't cheap but I wanted less hassles and a smaller footprint (power, size, etc) - I ended up re-using most of my Unraid disks, plus a few new ones for the Synology since I had to maintain my Unraid array, copy to Synology, turn down Unraid, repurpose old Unraid drives. I'm at ~34TB with 8x 4TB + 5x 3TB with room for 5 more drives. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: All good points, Alex, except for the cost. A Synology system would cost me $500 to $800 without disks and limit me in number of disks. Right now I have disks a system, the only cost would be the software. As it is, I can't find WHS2011 for less than $49.99 (where'd you find it for $29.99, Chris?), adding flexraid would be another $80.00. Or go with Unraid for $70.00 (or free if I limit myself to 3 disks). Does Synology do an array of differing size disks? Steve On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Alex Lee a...@kukaki.net wrote: Unraid is basically a special version of slackware linux. I used to use Unraid and switched over to Synology at 2x the cost. a. 1 disk failure tolerance for Unraid - I wanted 2 (which Synology offered with their hybrid raid setup) b. Unraid performance is great if you use a cache disk (SSD), same as Synology (without cache disk) c. When a disk fails, how do I know which one failed? (Unraid) ... I don't want to look at each of my drives and read the label. d. Wanted a lower power footprint so it can last longer on UPS. My 16-drive Unraid tower used a 600W PSU, my 13-drive Synology uses less than half that. It basically boiled down to the fact that I have less time and tolerance to deal with the little issues that come up on homegrown solutions that forced me to go with a much more expensive but polished product. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I found a discussion comparing Flexraid to Unraid. For me, they are identical except for two issues: Flexraid can add disks with data already on them (Unraid can't) while Unraid can run the OS from a USB stick, saving a MB SATA port, while Flexraid requires one disk for the OS. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Flexraid runs on top of any windows os. Whs2011 can be had very cheaply -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/12/2013 8:03 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] NAS Software Are you using WHS2011 for streaming? I'm assuming that flexraid can be used standalone? On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: I've been using whs2011+flexraid. Whs2011 can be found for $29. I paid $39 for flexraid. I currently have 48tb online and performance has been really solid -Original Message- From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com Sent: 11/11/2013 5:40 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] NAS Software After picking up some scrap hardware, most notably a couple of E8400's, I've got a bunch of stuff to build a NAS. For software, I want something that will give me some sort of parity, so that I can replace a dead drive without loosing stuff and the ability to add storage without doing a nuke and reinstall. I looked at FreeNAS, but that's a pain to increase storage, but then noticed UnRaid (I think it's been mentioned here before), which seems to fit the bill. Anyone familiar with UnRaid --- good/bad points --- or is there some other software I missed? Free is to be preferred, but UnRaid seems to be worth the extra $70. Thanks...Steve -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
