Re: [H] drive won't shrink

2014-05-11 Thread Winterlight

At 11:18 PM 5/11/2014, you wrote:

On 5/11/14, 11:01 PM, Winterlight wrote:
>
>
>> Defrag the drive and look to see if any data is way out near the end.
>
>  Your right... it is  a few unmovable files at the end of the drive
> that is causing the problem I discovered that initially..the unmovable
> pagefile was there at the end so I turned the page file off  and
> rebooted. But then something else got put at the end that I can't
> identify. How do I get it from putting unmoveable stuff at the end of
> the drive and why can't any partition manager move the files.
>
You can also disable the hibernation which can cause this.

This thread looks good:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/25221/how-to-shrink-windows-partition-with-unmovable-files-in-dual-boot-installation

Hopefully this helps


it does look good ... thanks




Also, shrink what you can, and then keep trying, instead of trying to
get it all in one shot.

-Harry
>> Second, use an Ubuntu live CD, and use Gparted to do the shrink.
>
> I googled this problem earlier and found a lot of users with apple
> products complaining of this... and  many of them did try Gparted but
> that didn't work either.
>
> Is this something HP does? How do you get rid of the unmovable files.
> I have been working with partitions for a couple of decades and have
> never come across this.
> Thanks for the help Harry.
>
>
>> -Harry
>>
>> On 5/11/14, 9:11 PM, Winterlight wrote:
>> > I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is
>> > nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB
>> > boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user
>> > only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and
>> > the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP
>> > stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the
>> > 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the
>> > drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk
>> > Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7
>> > Disk Management,   Paragon Partition Manager, and Active  Boot
>> > Partition Manager and they all have the same issue.
>> >
>> > Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is
>> > doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB
>> > up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring
>> > the backup in the smaller space?
>




Re: [H] drive won't shrink

2014-05-11 Thread Harry McGregor
On 5/11/14, 11:01 PM, Winterlight wrote:
>
>
>> Defrag the drive and look to see if any data is way out near the end.
>
>  Your right... it is  a few unmovable files at the end of the drive
> that is causing the problem I discovered that initially..the unmovable
> pagefile was there at the end so I turned the page file off  and
> rebooted. But then something else got put at the end that I can't
> identify. How do I get it from putting unmoveable stuff at the end of
> the drive and why can't any partition manager move the files.
>
You can also disable the hibernation which can cause this.

This thread looks good:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/25221/how-to-shrink-windows-partition-with-unmovable-files-in-dual-boot-installation

Hopefully this helps

Also, shrink what you can, and then keep trying, instead of trying to
get it all in one shot.

-Harry
>> Second, use an Ubuntu live CD, and use Gparted to do the shrink.
>
> I googled this problem earlier and found a lot of users with apple
> products complaining of this... and  many of them did try Gparted but
> that didn't work either.
>
> Is this something HP does? How do you get rid of the unmovable files.
> I have been working with partitions for a couple of decades and have
> never come across this.
> Thanks for the help Harry.
>
>
>> -Harry
>>
>> On 5/11/14, 9:11 PM, Winterlight wrote:
>> > I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is
>> > nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB
>> > boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user
>> > only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and
>> > the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP
>> > stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the
>> > 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the
>> > drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk
>> > Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7
>> > Disk Management,   Paragon Partition Manager, and Active  Boot
>> > Partition Manager and they all have the same issue.
>> >
>> > Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is
>> > doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB
>> > up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring
>> > the backup in the smaller space?
>



Re: [H] drive won't shrink

2014-05-11 Thread Winterlight




Defrag the drive and look to see if any data is way out near the end.


 Your right... it is  a few unmovable files at the end of the drive 
that is causing the problem I discovered that initially..the 
unmovable pagefile was there at the end so I turned the page file 
off  and rebooted. But then something else got put at the end that I 
can't identify. How do I get it from putting unmoveable stuff at the 
end of the drive and why can't any partition manager move the files.



Second, use an Ubuntu live CD, and use Gparted to do the shrink.


I googled this problem earlier and found a lot of users with apple 
products complaining of this... and  many of them did try Gparted but 
that didn't work either.


Is this something HP does? How do you get rid of the unmovable files. 
I have been working with partitions for a couple of decades and have 
never come across this.

Thanks for the help Harry.



-Harry

On 5/11/14, 9:11 PM, Winterlight wrote:
> I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is
> nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB
> boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user
> only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and
> the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP
> stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the
> 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the
> drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk
> Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7
> Disk Management,   Paragon Partition Manager, and Active  Boot
> Partition Manager and they all have the same issue.
>
> Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is
> doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB
> up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring
> the backup in the smaller space?




Re: [H] drive won't shrink

2014-05-11 Thread Harry McGregor
Hi,

Two suggestions.

Defrag the drive and look to see if any data is way out near the end.

Second, use an Ubuntu live CD, and use Gparted to do the shrink.

-Harry

On 5/11/14, 9:11 PM, Winterlight wrote:
> I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is
> nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB
> boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user
> only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB and
> the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the HP
> stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the
> 450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the
> drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk
> Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 7
> Disk Management,   Paragon Partition Manager, and Active  Boot
> Partition Manager and they all have the same issue.
>
> Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is
> doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB
> up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring
> the backup in the smaller space?



[H] drive won't shrink

2014-05-11 Thread Winterlight
I am working on a HP Pavilion. It has a 550GB hard drive and there is 
nothing unusual about the Win 7 Home Premium setup. It has a 195 MB 
boot drive = C. The Win 7 D drive with about 450 GB on it ...the user 
only is using 175GB of that D drive... a HP recovery drive of 24GB 
and the HP utility drive with around 100MB. I want to get rid of the 
HP stuff so I delete the two HP partitions. Next I try to shrink the 
450GB D drive down to 250 which leaves a solid 75 GB free on the 
drive. But I can't shrink it more then about 7GB because Win 7 Disk 
Manager says there isn't any space available. I have tried using Win 
7 Disk Management,   Paragon Partition Manager, and Active  Boot 
Partition Manager and they all have the same issue.


Has anybody seen anything like this before anybody know why it is 
doing this and what can be done about it short of backing the 175GB 
up, deleting the partition, create new partitions, and then restoring 
the backup in the smaller space?