Re: [H] New Android Phone

[Greg Sevart]

There's no perfect phone, but I tend to use and prefer the Samsung Android
devices as well. They're actually better than most at releasing feature and
security updates, even for older models. Not perfect, and not vanilla
Android, but better than most.

The Note 7 was the best phone I'd ever used. I traded for the S7E, but it's
just not as good. I looked real hard at the newest devices, especially the
Pixel XL, but they just weren't a good fit for me. I carry an iPhone for
work, so I knew beyond all doubt I didn't want that for my personal device.

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From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf
Of Joe User
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:09 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] New Android Phone

I too, was on the WP platform. Lumia 920 VZW. Loved it but just never had
the apps I needed or wanted for other devices - Cameras, gadgets, etc. It's
to bad because I really liked everything else.

So I went with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. this doesn't blow up or melt
down. The Non-edge model is nice as well but the deal they offered me made
sense to take the edge. I like it a lot. Nice to have app freedom. 
As for the edge, the main thing I like about it is the 'Apps Edge' it's a
little tab that you can swing out & holds a bunch of different things from
frequently used tasks, contacts, & apps (which I use the most). 
There are also things like a compass, news & sports things, etc. I hadn't
been a fan of Samsung for years (their monitor class action really soured me
- I was compensated but nothing like we should have
been) but I couldn't deny the researching I had done on phones. I would have
went for a more pure Google phone but with VZW or now, AT - it wasn't an
option. This phone is water proof/resistant & durable. Has 64 on board and u
can expand it with a 128GB card (last I knew, could be more now). Updates
always go well. No slow downs on videos, games, etc. 
I have no regrets with this phone. However, I am very cautious with apps. If
it's not well reviewed by 1K+ reviewers & been out awhile - I look for
something else. I bet there are a thousand apps that do the same thing one
way or another. Coming from the WP it's like fresh air.


On 12/11/2016 12:22 PM, Winterlight wrote:
> I have been a Windows Phone user for many years. I really liked the 
> interface, but unfortunately the lack of apps that I need compel me to 
> move on. 18 months ago my business needs forced me to use an Android 
> phone. So for the last year and a half I have been using  a Lumia 1520 
> for personal use, and a Motorolla G 2nd generation for business. Once 
> my Lumia was upgraded to Win10 a lot of things I needed stopped 
> working correctly.
>
> It is time to start using a single phone, and the apps I need are on 
> Android. I am looking to buy a new Android phone...something better 
> then the Motto G...something better designed, more modern, and will 
> work well with Win 10. I am not goint to get a contract and I don't 
> need the latest greatest.  I don't use any social media. I am never 
> going to hack the bios or do anything esoteric with my phone. My 
> primary goal is simplicity or use, and  productivity without 
> frustration. I don't know if there is any big differences outside of 
> physical appearance between Android manufacturers but I want one that 
> is easy to use, and doesn't catch on fire. Any suggestions or advice
appreciated.
>

Re: [H] New Android Phone

[Brian Weeden]

Huawei is the company that built the phone for Google.

Just like HTC is the one who built the newer Pixel phone. Google still
doesn't have in-house hardware design and manufacturing facilities yet.



-
Brian


On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Winterlight 
wrote:

>
> I am looking a Nexus 6P and I keep seeing Huawei - Google Nexus 6P
> So what does the Huawei mean? thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 12:14 PM 12/11/2016, you wrote:
>
>> My Android phone of choice is the ones by Google, Nexus and the current
>> Pixel, for the simple reason that updates are direct from Google with no
>> lack time. Best Buy still has some Nexus 6P in stock.
>>
>> My second choice would be the OnePlus Three, as close to the stock Android
>> OS without owning a Google phone.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016, 10:23 AM Winterlight 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have been a Windows Phone user for many years. I really liked the
>> > interface, but unfortunately the lack of apps that I need compel me
>> > to move on. 18 months ago my business needs forced me to use an
>> > Android phone. So for the last year and a half I have been using  a
>> > Lumia 1520 for personal use, and a Motorolla G 2nd generation for
>> > business. Once my Lumia was upgraded to Win10 a lot of things I
>> > needed stopped working correctly.
>> >
>> > It is time to start using a single phone, and the apps I need are on
>> > Android. I am looking to buy a new Android phone...something better
>> > then the Motto G...something better designed, more modern, and will
>> > work well with Win 10. I am not goint to get a contract and I don't
>> > need the latest greatest.  I don't use any social media. I am never
>> > going to hack the bios or do anything esoteric with my phone. My
>> > primary goal is simplicity or use, and  productivity without
>> > frustration. I don't know if there is any big differences outside of
>> > physical appearance between Android manufacturers but I want one that
>> > is easy to use, and doesn't catch on fire. Any suggestions or advice
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [H] New Android Phone

[Winterlight]

I am looking a Nexus 6P and I keep seeing Huawei - Google Nexus 6P
So what does the Huawei mean? thanks





At 12:14 PM 12/11/2016, you wrote:

My Android phone of choice is the ones by Google, Nexus and the current
Pixel, for the simple reason that updates are direct from Google with no
lack time. Best Buy still has some Nexus 6P in stock.

My second choice would be the OnePlus Three, as close to the stock Android
OS without owning a Google phone.

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016, 10:23 AM Winterlight 
wrote:

> I have been a Windows Phone user for many years. I really liked the
> interface, but unfortunately the lack of apps that I need compel me
> to move on. 18 months ago my business needs forced me to use an
> Android phone. So for the last year and a half I have been using  a
> Lumia 1520 for personal use, and a Motorolla G 2nd generation for
> business. Once my Lumia was upgraded to Win10 a lot of things I
> needed stopped working correctly.
>
> It is time to start using a single phone, and the apps I need are on
> Android. I am looking to buy a new Android phone...something better
> then the Motto G...something better designed, more modern, and will
> work well with Win 10. I am not goint to get a contract and I don't
> need the latest greatest.  I don't use any social media. I am never
> going to hack the bios or do anything esoteric with my phone. My
> primary goal is simplicity or use, and  productivity without
> frustration. I don't know if there is any big differences outside of
> physical appearance between Android manufacturers but I want one that
> is easy to use, and doesn't catch on fire. Any suggestions or advice
> appreciated.
>
>
>

Re: [H] New Android Phone

[Joe User]

I too, was on the WP platform. Lumia 920 VZW. Loved it but just never 
had the apps I needed or wanted for other devices - Cameras, gadgets, 
etc. It's to bad because I really liked everything else.


So I went with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. this doesn't blow up or melt 
down. The Non-edge model is nice as well but the deal they offered me 
made sense to take the edge. I like it a lot. Nice to have app freedom. 
As for the edge, the main thing I like about it is the 'Apps Edge' it's 
a little tab that you can swing out & holds a bunch of different things 
from frequently used tasks, contacts, & apps (which I use the most). 
There are also things like a compass, news & sports things, etc. I 
hadn't been a fan of Samsung for years (their monitor class action 
really soured me - I was compensated but nothing like we should have 
been) but I couldn't deny the researching I had done on phones. I would 
have went for a more pure Google phone but with VZW or now, AT - it 
wasn't an option. This phone is water proof/resistant & durable. Has 64 
on board and u can expand it with a 128GB card (last I knew, could be 
more now). Updates always go well. No slow downs on videos, games, etc. 
I have no regrets with this phone. However, I am very cautious with 
apps. If it's not well reviewed by 1K+ reviewers & been out awhile - I 
look for something else. I bet there are a thousand apps that do the 
same thing one way or another. Coming from the WP it's like fresh air.



On 12/11/2016 12:22 PM, Winterlight wrote:

I have been a Windows Phone user for many years. I really liked the
interface, but unfortunately the lack of apps that I need compel me to
move on. 18 months ago my business needs forced me to use an Android
phone. So for the last year and a half I have been using  a Lumia 1520
for personal use, and a Motorolla G 2nd generation for business. Once my
Lumia was upgraded to Win10 a lot of things I needed stopped working
correctly.

It is time to start using a single phone, and the apps I need are on
Android. I am looking to buy a new Android phone...something better then
the Motto G...something better designed, more modern, and will work well
with Win 10. I am not goint to get a contract and I don't need the
latest greatest.  I don't use any social media. I am never going to hack
the bios or do anything esoteric with my phone. My primary goal is
simplicity or use, and  productivity without frustration. I don't know
if there is any big differences outside of physical appearance between
Android manufacturers but I want one that is easy to use, and doesn't
catch on fire. Any suggestions or advice appreciated.

Re: [H] New Android Phone

[Brian Weeden]

I'll second the suggestion to get as close to a pure Google Android phone
as you can. Otherwise, you're unlikely to get any security updates at all,
and there's been some big vulns found in the Android platform recently.

You're also much more likely to be able to avoid the crappy software many
of the carriers pre-install.



-
Brian


On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Joshua MacCraw  wrote:

> Still using and recommending the Asus zen fone 2 ze551ml specifically.
> Other zf2 variants, especially the branded ones, are not as good. factory
> unlocked and easily debloated with the power of a an Atom netbook running
> x86 android.
>
> On Dec 11, 2016 11:29 AM, "Eli Allen"  wrote:
>
> > If you can wait till mobile world congress at the end of February, lots
> of
> > new phones come out then
> >
> > On Dec 11, 2016 1:22 PM, "Winterlight" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have been a Windows Phone user for many years. I really liked the
> > interface, but unfortunately the lack of apps that I need compel me to
> move
> > on. 18 months ago my business needs forced me to use an Android phone. So
> > for the last year and a half I have been using  a Lumia 1520 for personal
> > use, and a Motorolla G 2nd generation for business. Once my Lumia was
> > upgraded to Win10 a lot of things I needed stopped working correctly.
> >
> > It is time to start using a single phone, and the apps I need are on
> > Android. I am looking to buy a new Android phone...something better then
> > the Motto G...something better designed, more modern, and will work well
> > with Win 10. I am not goint to get a contract and I don't need the latest
> > greatest.  I don't use any social media. I am never going to hack the
> bios
> > or do anything esoteric with my phone. My primary goal is simplicity or
> > use, and  productivity without frustration. I don't know if there is any
> > big differences outside of physical appearance between Android
> > manufacturers but I want one that is easy to use, and doesn't catch on
> > fire. Any suggestions or advice appreciated.
> >
>

Re: [H] New Android Phone

[Joshua MacCraw]

Still using and recommending the Asus zen fone 2 ze551ml specifically.
Other zf2 variants, especially the branded ones, are not as good. factory
unlocked and easily debloated with the power of a an Atom netbook running
x86 android.

On Dec 11, 2016 11:29 AM, "Eli Allen"  wrote:

> If you can wait till mobile world congress at the end of February, lots of
> new phones come out then
>
> On Dec 11, 2016 1:22 PM, "Winterlight" 
> wrote:
>
> I have been a Windows Phone user for many years. I really liked the
> interface, but unfortunately the lack of apps that I need compel me to move
> on. 18 months ago my business needs forced me to use an Android phone. So
> for the last year and a half I have been using  a Lumia 1520 for personal
> use, and a Motorolla G 2nd generation for business. Once my Lumia was
> upgraded to Win10 a lot of things I needed stopped working correctly.
>
> It is time to start using a single phone, and the apps I need are on
> Android. I am looking to buy a new Android phone...something better then
> the Motto G...something better designed, more modern, and will work well
> with Win 10. I am not goint to get a contract and I don't need the latest
> greatest.  I don't use any social media. I am never going to hack the bios
> or do anything esoteric with my phone. My primary goal is simplicity or
> use, and  productivity without frustration. I don't know if there is any
> big differences outside of physical appearance between Android
> manufacturers but I want one that is easy to use, and doesn't catch on
> fire. Any suggestions or advice appreciated.
>

Re: [H] New Android Phone

[Eli Allen]

If you can wait till mobile world congress at the end of February, lots of
new phones come out then

On Dec 11, 2016 1:22 PM, "Winterlight"  wrote:

I have been a Windows Phone user for many years. I really liked the
interface, but unfortunately the lack of apps that I need compel me to move
on. 18 months ago my business needs forced me to use an Android phone. So
for the last year and a half I have been using  a Lumia 1520 for personal
use, and a Motorolla G 2nd generation for business. Once my Lumia was
upgraded to Win10 a lot of things I needed stopped working correctly.

It is time to start using a single phone, and the apps I need are on
Android. I am looking to buy a new Android phone...something better then
the Motto G...something better designed, more modern, and will work well
with Win 10. I am not goint to get a contract and I don't need the latest
greatest.  I don't use any social media. I am never going to hack the bios
or do anything esoteric with my phone. My primary goal is simplicity or
use, and  productivity without frustration. I don't know if there is any
big differences outside of physical appearance between Android
manufacturers but I want one that is easy to use, and doesn't catch on
fire. Any suggestions or advice appreciated.

Re: [H] New Android Phone

[Kevin Lee]

My Android phone of choice is the ones by Google, Nexus and the current
Pixel, for the simple reason that updates are direct from Google with no
lack time. Best Buy still has some Nexus 6P in stock.

My second choice would be the OnePlus Three, as close to the stock Android
OS without owning a Google phone.

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016, 10:23 AM Winterlight 
wrote:

> I have been a Windows Phone user for many years. I really liked the
> interface, but unfortunately the lack of apps that I need compel me
> to move on. 18 months ago my business needs forced me to use an
> Android phone. So for the last year and a half I have been using  a
> Lumia 1520 for personal use, and a Motorolla G 2nd generation for
> business. Once my Lumia was upgraded to Win10 a lot of things I
> needed stopped working correctly.
>
> It is time to start using a single phone, and the apps I need are on
> Android. I am looking to buy a new Android phone...something better
> then the Motto G...something better designed, more modern, and will
> work well with Win 10. I am not goint to get a contract and I don't
> need the latest greatest.  I don't use any social media. I am never
> going to hack the bios or do anything esoteric with my phone. My
> primary goal is simplicity or use, and  productivity without
> frustration. I don't know if there is any big differences outside of
> physical appearance between Android manufacturers but I want one that
> is easy to use, and doesn't catch on fire. Any suggestions or advice
> appreciated.
>
>
>

[H] New Android Phone

[Winterlight]

I have been a Windows Phone user for many years. I really liked the 
interface, but unfortunately the lack of apps that I need compel me 
to move on. 18 months ago my business needs forced me to use an 
Android phone. So for the last year and a half I have been using  a 
Lumia 1520 for personal use, and a Motorolla G 2nd generation for 
business. Once my Lumia was upgraded to Win10 a lot of things I 
needed stopped working correctly.


It is time to start using a single phone, and the apps I need are on 
Android. I am looking to buy a new Android phone...something better 
then the Motto G...something better designed, more modern, and will 
work well with Win 10. I am not goint to get a contract and I don't 
need the latest greatest.  I don't use any social media. I am never 
going to hack the bios or do anything esoteric with my phone. My 
primary goal is simplicity or use, and  productivity without 
frustration. I don't know if there is any big differences outside of 
physical appearance between Android manufacturers but I want one that 
is easy to use, and doesn't catch on fire. Any suggestions or advice 
appreciated.