Re: [H] OT Inclined planes

2008-07-14 Thread nobozoz
Assume an 8 degree incline to the ramp.

The tangent of an angle (in this case 8 degrees) equals the rise divided by
the run or y/x.

In this example, the rise is either 1 ft or 3 ft, so,

tan(8 degrees) = rise_ft / run_ft = y_ft / x_ft

or ...

x_ft = (1 ft) / tan(8 degrees) = (1 ft) / (0.140541) = (7.11537 ft)
and ...
x_ft = (3 ft) / tan(8 degrees) = (3 ft) / (0.140541) = (21.3461 ft)

 y
/y
   / y
  /  y
h/   y
/y
   / y
  /  y
 /)  y
x0

In the above drawing, x == y and the triangle is 9 y's rise by 9 x's run.

The angle /) is 45 degrees (although it doesn't look right due to font
dimensions),
 and tan(45 degrees) = 1.0 = 9/9.

If you need the length of the inclined path (h = hypotenuse), use
Pythagarus' theorem:


h^2 = x^2 +y^2

or ...

h = (x^2 +y^2)^(1/2) = 21.5559 ft

or ... [sin(8 degrees) = h / rise_ft]

h = 1 ft / sin(8 degrees) = 7.18530 ft   ; sin(8 degrees) = 0.139173

h = 3 ft / sin(8 degrees) = 21.5559 ft   ; sin(8 degrees) = 0.139173

hth,

Jim


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As a distraction form my network backup problems, a friend called me and
asked this question. I am using google now to see if I can find the formula.

Here is his question:This is about Inclined Planes.

   How long does a ramp have to be to raise a plane 8 degrees
from horizontal to a hight of one foot...

Also would like the length
to a hight of 3 feet, at the same degree of incline, if you can do it...

Any help with formula and answer greatly appreciated.

Why do I get myself in these situations. lol

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[H] OT Inclined planes

2008-07-13 Thread Harvey Best
As a distraction form my network backup problems, a friend called me and asked 
this question. I am using google now to see if I can find the formula.

Here is his question:This is about Inclined Planes.

   How long does a ramp have to be to raise a plane 8 degrees
from horizontal to a hight of one foot...

Also would like the length
to a hight of 3 feet, at the same degree of incline, if you can do it...

Any help with formula and answer greatly appreciated.

Why do I get myself in these situations. lol

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Re: [H] OT Inclined planes

2008-07-13 Thread xtempore

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:32:35 -0400
Harvey Best [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How long does a ramp have to be to raise a plane 8 degrees
 from horizontal to a hight of one foot...

8 degree = 1.67551608 inches per foot

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficialq=8+degree+%3D+%3F+inches+per+footbtnG=Search
 

HTH
Al


Re: [H] OT Inclined planes

2008-07-13 Thread xtempore

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:14:47 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:32:35 -0400
 Harvey Best [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 How long does a ramp have to be to raise a plane 8 degrees
  from horizontal to a hight of one foot...
 
 8 degree = 1.67551608 inches per foot

So to answer your question;

12 / 1.68 = 7.14285714
TotalRise / RisePerFoot = Total Feet
36 / 1.68 = 21.4285714 feet for 3 foot rise.

Best,
Al



Re: [H] OT Inclined planes

2008-07-13 Thread Harvey Best
Thanks! I had been searching for a formula when I should have run a search like 
you did.

Wind



 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:14:47 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] OT  Inclined planes
 
 
 On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:32:35 -0400
 Harvey Best [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 How long does a ramp have to be to raise a plane 8 degrees
  from horizontal to a hight of one foot...
 
 8 degree = 1.67551608 inches per foot
 
 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficialq=8+degree+%3D+%3F+inches+per+footbtnG=Search
  
 
 HTH
 Al

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Re: [H] OT Inclined planes

2008-07-13 Thread Eli Allen
It is a formula from trig, Sine of an angle equals the opposite side over
the hypotenuse.  So set your calculator in degree mode (vs radian) and then
do rise/(sin 8) which gives the length. (where length and rise are both in
the same units)

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Thanks! I had been searching for a formula when I should have run a search
like you did.

Wind



 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:14:47 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] OT  Inclined planes
 
 
 On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:32:35 -0400
 Harvey Best [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 How long does a ramp have to be to raise a plane 8 degrees
  from horizontal to a hight of one foot...
 
 8 degree = 1.67551608 inches per foot
 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%
3Aofficialq=8+degree+%3D+%3F+inches+per+footbtnG=Search
  
 
 HTH
 Al

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Re: [H] OT Inclined planes

2008-07-13 Thread Bill Cohane

At 20:42 07/13/08, Harvey Best wrote:
Thanks! I had been searching for a formula when I should have run a 
search like you did.


How long does a ramp have to be to raise a plane 8 degrees from 
horizontal to a hight of one foot...



One shouldn't have to find a formula to solve this.

It's simple trigonometry (the definition of the sine of an angle in a 
right triangle) from

high school math.

If X is the hypotenuse of a right triangle (call it X because this is 
what we're
looking for), A is an angle, and L is the length of the side opposite 
from A, then

sine of A is defined as opposite over hypotenuse.

Sin A = L / X

Use A = 8 degrees and L = 1 foot. We get Sin 8 = 1 / X or X = 1 / sin8

Get sin 8 = .13917 (using the calculator applet in Windows). Note: be
sure your calculator is set for degrees and not radians.

X = 1 foot / .13917
  = 7.1853 feet

The whole point is not to look for (and memorize) some formula but to use
a concept learned (hopefully) long ago.

Regards,
Bill