Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-07 Thread DSinc

Greg,
Have you or any other SSD List Guru ever written down (documented) the 
steps used to

convert from an EM drive to an SSD drive?

I have lots of questions!

I'm taking your past suggestion about re-using my OLD EM drives for my 
pending Win7

upgrade(coming earlier than planned... :)
Plan NOW is to use the old EM drives for 'Swap file' activity, and, 
other Windows files I can/should
move back to the old EM drives (Yes, trying to limit future WRITE 
activity on the SSD).


I have followed all the discussion about SSD's on the List. And, my 3 
machines get backed-up
to my NAS each month, so I suspect I may loose no more than 30days of 
'data.' Of course, I
will backup each machine just before enhancement/upgrade, just to be as 
current as possible.
Yes, I will try to 'recover' (?) my old EM drive to use for the Winblows 
Swap file, and any other system

file(s) suggested via the list.

ATM, I have 2 machines w/4 32-bit partitions (c:/d:/e:/f:), and 1 
machine w/3 32-bit partitions (c:/d:/e:).

These 3 HD's are all 120GB EM HD's.

Normally I do ~40GB partitions. I can even accept 32GB SSD partitions 
(128/4).

But, I remain clueless ATM of all the things to do post install.

I do believe that my current Asus P5Q3 m/b's do have 6MB/sec JMicron 
drivers (not used ATM).

But I will dig back in my docs about this.

Yes, I plan to raise a newegg order for 5x Samsung 840 Pro 128GB SSD's
(N82E16820147192)


Best,
Duncan

On 05/06/2013 16:36, Greg Sevart wrote:

The 840 is a decent drive, though it does use TLC (three bits per cell) NAND
instead of the more traditional MLC (2 bits per cell) variety. TLC NAND is
slower on writes and has less endurance (~1000 P/E cycles vs. 3000) than MLC
NAND, but it's easy to overstate what the impact is. The only thing I'd
avoid is the 120GB capacity version - the firmware is stable, but the NAND
may only get you to 3 years or so under normal usage until the MWI (media
wearout indicator) hits 0. Now, MWI=0 doesn't mean the drive is
dead--indeed, there are forums where some models have exceeded the MWI by
huge margins and are still functional. It's intended to be a conservative
estimate of drive durability.

The 840 Pro is a different drive entirely, using 21nm Samsung MLC NAND.

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Tomporowski
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 3:28 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

This is really good to hear, as what I just bought was a Samsung 840

Steve

On 5/6/2013 11:40 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:

All of them crap controllers. OCZ would either be Indilinx or
Sandforce, neither of which have a good track record (though Indilinx
far worse than SF). Your Patriot and ADATA were probably Indilinx or

Sandforce as well.

Your failures were almost certainly firmware problems, not NAND wearout.

Samsung (830, 840 Pro) is where it's at, followed by Marvell
controllers (e.g., Crucial C300, m4, m500).

SSDs are extremely reliable if you get one based on a good controller.
Friends don't let friends buy OCZ, though the controller manufacturer
is more critical than the brand label on the box.

Greg
(owner/user of: 4x Intel G2, 1x Intel 320, 5x Samsung 830, 1x Samsung
840, 2x Samsung 840 Pro with no failures)


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Martin Jr.
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:06 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

I've had 4 SSD's die each in under 6 months. I'm not really sold on
the reliability ;)
2 were OCZ and the others were a Patriot and a ADATA. All in different
boxes and all were boot drives. I had a seagate hybrid drive die after
2 months also. All were on UPS's too.

I switched back to mechanical drives for my important machines. Don't
have the time to redo everything that ofter any more

lopaka





From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sun, May 5, 2013 6:03:02 AM
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

Dependsif it is going in a laptopmost folks just put
everything on the SSD.  I have a 256 GB SSD in my thinkpad, so everything

goes on the SSD.

On my desktop, I used to have a 160GB SSD...so only Windows and
programs went on the SSD...all documents and stuff went on the d
drive, which is a hard drive.  I now have a 500 GB SSD, but I still
put non-programs on the hard drive.

As you know, many laptops come with SSDs onlyno need to worry
about writes...unless you are doing something wyyy outside of normal.

I got my first SSD in Jan 2011...that drive is still working great!

On 5/4/2013 9:25 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:

I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like
Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status

Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-07 Thread FORC5
my only complaint about the one Samsuung SSD I bought was that the 
FREE transfer sw was NOT  free. ( trial version of ghost ) 
Fortunately the sw I got from crucial worked, was not happy but worked.


jmo, things may be different now.
fp

At 11:49 AM 5/7/2013, DSinc Poked the stick with:


Yes, I plan to raise a newegg order for 5x Samsung 840 Pro 128GB SSD's
(N82E16820147192)


Date:  Tuesday, May 7th, 2013

   ***Caution, Tagline Below ***
**Tallyho**
**
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Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-07 Thread DSinc

Forc5,
Thanks for this 'heads up.' I will find out in 2 weeks or a month.  Not 
in a hurry; I have lots of questions ATM... :)

Duncan

On 05/07/2013 18:42, FORC5 wrote:
my only complaint about the one Samsuung SSD I bought was that the 
FREE transfer sw was NOT  free. ( trial version of ghost ) Fortunately 
the sw I got from crucial worked, was not happy but worked.


jmo, things may be different now.
fp

At 11:49 AM 5/7/2013, DSinc Poked the stick with:


Yes, I plan to raise a newegg order for 5x Samsung 840 Pro 128GB SSD's
(N82E16820147192)


Date:  Tuesday, May 7th, 2013

   ***Caution, Tagline Below ***
**Tallyho**
**
  Metric Lit: The Courtship of Kilometers
 Standish.
**















Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-06 Thread Brian Weeden
Changing it now will likely require a reinstall of Windows, at least it did
for me the last time I tried it a few years ago.  That's because windows
uses different drivers to read from an AHCI disk and those are establishing
during setup.





-
Brian



On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.comwrote:

 Has anyone seen this SSD guide?

 http://thessdreview.com/ssd-**guides/optimization-guides/**
 the-ssd-optimization-guide-2/http://thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimization-guides/the-ssd-optimization-guide-2/

 It's interesting that just about everything he suggests is qualified by
 'it may or may not be necessary'.

 While on that subject, is AHCI necessary?  I never noticed my main system
 (P55 chipset) was not in AHCI mode.  And I'm not sure how dangerous/safe it
 is to change it now.

 Steve


 On 5/5/2013 9:02 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

 Dependsif it is going in a laptopmost folks just put everything
 on the SSD.  I have a 256 GB SSD in my thinkpad, so everything goes on the
 SSD.

 On my desktop, I used to have a 160GB SSD...so only Windows and programs
 went on the SSD...all documents and stuff went on the d drive, which is a
 hard drive.  I now have a 500 GB SSD, but I still put non-programs on the
 hard drive.

 As you know, many laptops come with SSDs onlyno need to worry about
 writes...unless you are doing something wyyy outside of normal.

 I got my first SSD in Jan 2011...that drive is still working great!

 On 5/4/2013 9:25 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:

 I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like
 Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status on
 that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.

 Thanks...Steve






Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-06 Thread Eli Allen
Seems like its more not understanding the swap file and SSDs:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05/05/support-and-q-a-for-solid-state-drives-and.aspx


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Under normal use, an SSD should last at least 3-5 years.  It think the only
 thing you might want to avoid putting on an SSD is a swapfile, and there's
 even debate over whether that's really a bad thing or not.





 -
 Brian




Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-06 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
I've had 4 SSD's die each in under 6 months. I'm not really sold on the 
reliability ;)
2 were OCZ and the others were a Patriot and a ADATA. All in different boxes 
and 
all were boot drives. I had a seagate hybrid drive die after 2 months also. All 
were on UPS's too.

I switched back to mechanical drives for my important machines. Don't have the 
time to redo everything that ofter any more

lopaka





From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sun, May 5, 2013 6:03:02 AM
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

Dependsif it is going in a laptopmost folks just put everything on the 
SSD.  I have a 256 GB SSD in my thinkpad, so everything goes on the SSD.

On my desktop, I used to have a 160GB SSD...so only Windows and programs went 
on 
the SSD...all documents and stuff went on the d drive, which is a hard drive.  
I 
now have a 500 GB SSD, but I still put non-programs on the hard drive.

As you know, many laptops come with SSDs onlyno need to worry about 
writes...unless you are doing something wyyy outside of normal.

I got my first SSD in Jan 2011...that drive is still working great!

On 5/4/2013 9:25 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
 I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like Documents and 
Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status on that?  I read it both 
ways over the last couple of years.
 
 Thanks...Steve
 


Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-06 Thread Greg Sevart
All of them crap controllers. OCZ would either be Indilinx or Sandforce,
neither of which have a good track record (though Indilinx far worse than
SF). Your Patriot and ADATA were probably Indilinx or Sandforce as well.
Your failures were almost certainly firmware problems, not NAND wearout.

Samsung (830, 840 Pro) is where it's at, followed by Marvell controllers
(e.g., Crucial C300, m4, m500).

SSDs are extremely reliable if you get one based on a good controller.
Friends don't let friends buy OCZ, though the controller manufacturer is
more critical than the brand label on the box.

Greg
(owner/user of: 4x Intel G2, 1x Intel 320, 5x Samsung 830, 1x Samsung 840,
2x Samsung 840 Pro with no failures)


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin
Jr.
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:06 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

I've had 4 SSD's die each in under 6 months. I'm not really sold on the
reliability ;)
2 were OCZ and the others were a Patriot and a ADATA. All in different boxes
and all were boot drives. I had a seagate hybrid drive die after 2 months
also. All were on UPS's too.

I switched back to mechanical drives for my important machines. Don't have
the time to redo everything that ofter any more

lopaka





From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sun, May 5, 2013 6:03:02 AM
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

Dependsif it is going in a laptopmost folks just put everything on
the SSD.  I have a 256 GB SSD in my thinkpad, so everything goes on the SSD.

On my desktop, I used to have a 160GB SSD...so only Windows and programs
went on the SSD...all documents and stuff went on the d drive, which is a
hard drive.  I now have a 500 GB SSD, but I still put non-programs on the
hard drive.

As you know, many laptops come with SSDs onlyno need to worry about
writes...unless you are doing something wyyy outside of normal.

I got my first SSD in Jan 2011...that drive is still working great!

On 5/4/2013 9:25 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
 I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like 
Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status on 
that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.
 
 Thanks...Steve
 




Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-06 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
I may try the Samsung 840 when I load up windows 8  ;)

lopaka





From: Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Mon, May 6, 2013 8:40:41 AM
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

All of them crap controllers. OCZ would either be Indilinx or Sandforce,
neither of which have a good track record (though Indilinx far worse than
SF). Your Patriot and ADATA were probably Indilinx or Sandforce as well.
Your failures were almost certainly firmware problems, not NAND wearout.

Samsung (830, 840 Pro) is where it's at, followed by Marvell controllers
(e.g., Crucial C300, m4, m500).

SSDs are extremely reliable if you get one based on a good controller.
Friends don't let friends buy OCZ, though the controller manufacturer is
more critical than the brand label on the box.

Greg
(owner/user of: 4x Intel G2, 1x Intel 320, 5x Samsung 830, 1x Samsung 840,
2x Samsung 840 Pro with no failures)


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin
Jr.
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:06 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

I've had 4 SSD's die each in under 6 months. I'm not really sold on the
reliability ;)
2 were OCZ and the others were a Patriot and a ADATA. All in different boxes
and all were boot drives. I had a seagate hybrid drive die after 2 months
also. All were on UPS's too.

I switched back to mechanical drives for my important machines. Don't have
the time to redo everything that ofter any more

lopaka





From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sun, May 5, 2013 6:03:02 AM
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

Dependsif it is going in a laptopmost folks just put everything on
the SSD.  I have a 256 GB SSD in my thinkpad, so everything goes on the SSD.

On my desktop, I used to have a 160GB SSD...so only Windows and programs
went on the SSD...all documents and stuff went on the d drive, which is a
hard drive.  I now have a 500 GB SSD, but I still put non-programs on the
hard drive.

As you know, many laptops come with SSDs onlyno need to worry about
writes...unless you are doing something wyyy outside of normal.

I got my first SSD in Jan 2011...that drive is still working great!

On 5/4/2013 9:25 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
 I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like 
Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status on 
that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.
 
 Thanks...Steve
 


Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-06 Thread Eli Allen
Sandforce can be good, its just a matter of the firmware not being buggy.
 Best to worry a bit less about speed when getting SSDs


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net wrote:

 All of them crap controllers. OCZ would either be Indilinx or Sandforce,
 neither of which have a good track record (though Indilinx far worse than
 SF). Your Patriot and ADATA were probably Indilinx or Sandforce as well.
 Your failures were almost certainly firmware problems, not NAND wearout.

 Samsung (830, 840 Pro) is where it's at, followed by Marvell controllers
 (e.g., Crucial C300, m4, m500).

 SSDs are extremely reliable if you get one based on a good controller.
 Friends don't let friends buy OCZ, though the controller manufacturer is
 more critical than the brand label on the box.

 Greg
 (owner/user of: 4x Intel G2, 1x Intel 320, 5x Samsung 830, 1x Samsung 840,
 2x Samsung 840 Pro with no failures)


 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert
 Martin
 Jr.
 Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:06 AM
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

 I've had 4 SSD's die each in under 6 months. I'm not really sold on the
 reliability ;)
 2 were OCZ and the others were a Patriot and a ADATA. All in different
 boxes
 and all were boot drives. I had a seagate hybrid drive die after 2 months
 also. All were on UPS's too.

 I switched back to mechanical drives for my important machines. Don't have
 the time to redo everything that ofter any more

 lopaka




 
 From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Sun, May 5, 2013 6:03:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

 Dependsif it is going in a laptopmost folks just put everything on
 the SSD.  I have a 256 GB SSD in my thinkpad, so everything goes on the
 SSD.

 On my desktop, I used to have a 160GB SSD...so only Windows and programs
 went on the SSD...all documents and stuff went on the d drive, which is a
 hard drive.  I now have a 500 GB SSD, but I still put non-programs on the
 hard drive.

 As you know, many laptops come with SSDs onlyno need to worry about
 writes...unless you are doing something wyyy outside of normal.

 I got my first SSD in Jan 2011...that drive is still working great!

 On 5/4/2013 9:25 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
  I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like
 Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status on
 that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.
 
  Thanks...Steve
 





Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-06 Thread Steve Tomporowski

This is really good to hear, as what I just bought was a Samsung 840

Steve

On 5/6/2013 11:40 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:

All of them crap controllers. OCZ would either be Indilinx or Sandforce,
neither of which have a good track record (though Indilinx far worse than
SF). Your Patriot and ADATA were probably Indilinx or Sandforce as well.
Your failures were almost certainly firmware problems, not NAND wearout.

Samsung (830, 840 Pro) is where it's at, followed by Marvell controllers
(e.g., Crucial C300, m4, m500).

SSDs are extremely reliable if you get one based on a good controller.
Friends don't let friends buy OCZ, though the controller manufacturer is
more critical than the brand label on the box.

Greg
(owner/user of: 4x Intel G2, 1x Intel 320, 5x Samsung 830, 1x Samsung 840,
2x Samsung 840 Pro with no failures)


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin
Jr.
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:06 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

I've had 4 SSD's die each in under 6 months. I'm not really sold on the
reliability ;)
2 were OCZ and the others were a Patriot and a ADATA. All in different boxes
and all were boot drives. I had a seagate hybrid drive die after 2 months
also. All were on UPS's too.

I switched back to mechanical drives for my important machines. Don't have
the time to redo everything that ofter any more

lopaka





From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sun, May 5, 2013 6:03:02 AM
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

Dependsif it is going in a laptopmost folks just put everything on
the SSD.  I have a 256 GB SSD in my thinkpad, so everything goes on the SSD.

On my desktop, I used to have a 160GB SSD...so only Windows and programs
went on the SSD...all documents and stuff went on the d drive, which is a
hard drive.  I now have a 500 GB SSD, but I still put non-programs on the
hard drive.

As you know, many laptops come with SSDs onlyno need to worry about
writes...unless you are doing something wyyy outside of normal.

I got my first SSD in Jan 2011...that drive is still working great!

On 5/4/2013 9:25 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:

I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like
Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status on
that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.

Thanks...Steve







Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-06 Thread Greg Sevart
The 840 is a decent drive, though it does use TLC (three bits per cell) NAND
instead of the more traditional MLC (2 bits per cell) variety. TLC NAND is
slower on writes and has less endurance (~1000 P/E cycles vs. 3000) than MLC
NAND, but it's easy to overstate what the impact is. The only thing I'd
avoid is the 120GB capacity version - the firmware is stable, but the NAND
may only get you to 3 years or so under normal usage until the MWI (media
wearout indicator) hits 0. Now, MWI=0 doesn't mean the drive is
dead--indeed, there are forums where some models have exceeded the MWI by
huge margins and are still functional. It's intended to be a conservative
estimate of drive durability.

The 840 Pro is a different drive entirely, using 21nm Samsung MLC NAND.

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Tomporowski
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 3:28 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

This is really good to hear, as what I just bought was a Samsung 840

Steve

On 5/6/2013 11:40 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:
 All of them crap controllers. OCZ would either be Indilinx or 
 Sandforce, neither of which have a good track record (though Indilinx 
 far worse than SF). Your Patriot and ADATA were probably Indilinx or
Sandforce as well.
 Your failures were almost certainly firmware problems, not NAND wearout.

 Samsung (830, 840 Pro) is where it's at, followed by Marvell 
 controllers (e.g., Crucial C300, m4, m500).

 SSDs are extremely reliable if you get one based on a good controller.
 Friends don't let friends buy OCZ, though the controller manufacturer 
 is more critical than the brand label on the box.

 Greg
 (owner/user of: 4x Intel G2, 1x Intel 320, 5x Samsung 830, 1x Samsung 
 840, 2x Samsung 840 Pro with no failures)


 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert 
 Martin Jr.
 Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:06 AM
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

 I've had 4 SSD's die each in under 6 months. I'm not really sold on 
 the reliability ;)
 2 were OCZ and the others were a Patriot and a ADATA. All in different 
 boxes and all were boot drives. I had a seagate hybrid drive die after 
 2 months also. All were on UPS's too.

 I switched back to mechanical drives for my important machines. Don't 
 have the time to redo everything that ofter any more

 lopaka




 
 From: Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Sent: Sun, May 5, 2013 6:03:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

 Dependsif it is going in a laptopmost folks just put 
 everything on the SSD.  I have a 256 GB SSD in my thinkpad, so everything
goes on the SSD.

 On my desktop, I used to have a 160GB SSD...so only Windows and 
 programs went on the SSD...all documents and stuff went on the d 
 drive, which is a hard drive.  I now have a 500 GB SSD, but I still 
 put non-programs on the hard drive.

 As you know, many laptops come with SSDs onlyno need to worry 
 about writes...unless you are doing something wyyy outside of normal.

 I got my first SSD in Jan 2011...that drive is still working great!

 On 5/4/2013 9:25 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
 I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like 
 Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status 
 on that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.

 Thanks...Steve







Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-05 Thread FORC5

Why ?
They run fine.
fp

At 06:25 PM 5/4/2013, Steve Tomporowski Poked the stick with:
I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like 
Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status 
on that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.


Thanks...Steve


Date:  Saturday, May 4th, 2013

   ***Caution, Tagline Below ***
**Tallyho**
**
Lotus executives do not wear Look 
  Feel T shirts.
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Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-05 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Oh, I seem to remember that there was a lot of running around in circles 
and screaming about the limited write lifetime of solid state drive and 
how you should 'NEVER EVER' use them for data drives.  I take it that 
the screaming has died down?


Steve ;-)

On 5/5/2013 2:14 AM, FORC5 wrote:

Why ?
They run fine.
fp

At 06:25 PM 5/4/2013, Steve Tomporowski Poked the stick with:
I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like 
Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status 
on that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.


Thanks...Steve


Date:  Saturday, May 4th, 2013

   ***Caution, Tagline Below ***
**Tallyho**
**
Lotus executives do not wear Look 
  Feel T shirts.
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Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-05 Thread Brian Weeden
Under normal use, an SSD should last at least 3-5 years.  It think the only
thing you might want to avoid putting on an SSD is a swapfile, and there's
even debate over whether that's really a bad thing or not.





-
Brian



On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh, I seem to remember that there was a lot of running around in circles
 and screaming about the limited write lifetime of solid state drive and how
 you should 'NEVER EVER' use them for data drives.  I take it that the
 screaming has died down?

 Steve ;-)


 On 5/5/2013 2:14 AM, FORC5 wrote:

 Why ?
 They run fine.
 fp

 At 06:25 PM 5/4/2013, Steve Tomporowski Poked the stick with:

 I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like
 Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status on
 that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.

 Thanks...Steve


 Date:  Saturday, May 4th, 2013

***Caution, Tagline Below ***
 **Tallyho**
 
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Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-05 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Dependsif it is going in a laptopmost folks just put everything 
on the SSD.  I have a 256 GB SSD in my thinkpad, so everything goes on 
the SSD.


On my desktop, I used to have a 160GB SSD...so only Windows and programs 
went on the SSD...all documents and stuff went on the d drive, which is 
a hard drive.  I now have a 500 GB SSD, but I still put non-programs on 
the hard drive.


As you know, many laptops come with SSDs onlyno need to worry about 
writes...unless you are doing something wyyy outside of normal.


I got my first SSD in Jan 2011...that drive is still working great!

On 5/4/2013 9:25 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like 
Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status on 
that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.


Thanks...Steve






Re: [H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-05 Thread Steve Tomporowski

Has anyone seen this SSD guide?

http://thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimization-guides/the-ssd-optimization-guide-2/

It's interesting that just about everything he suggests is qualified by 
'it may or may not be necessary'.


While on that subject, is AHCI necessary?  I never noticed my main 
system (P55 chipset) was not in AHCI mode.  And I'm not sure how 
dangerous/safe it is to change it now.


Steve

On 5/5/2013 9:02 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Dependsif it is going in a laptopmost folks just put 
everything on the SSD.  I have a 256 GB SSD in my thinkpad, so 
everything goes on the SSD.


On my desktop, I used to have a 160GB SSD...so only Windows and 
programs went on the SSD...all documents and stuff went on the d 
drive, which is a hard drive.  I now have a 500 GB SSD, but I still 
put non-programs on the hard drive.


As you know, many laptops come with SSDs onlyno need to worry 
about writes...unless you are doing something wyyy outside of normal.


I got my first SSD in Jan 2011...that drive is still working great!

On 5/4/2013 9:25 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like 
Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status 
on that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.


Thanks...Steve







[H] SSDs and My Documents

2013-05-04 Thread Steve Tomporowski
I've just bought my first SSD.  Should I be moving folders like 
Documents and Libraries to another drive?  Whats the current status on 
that?  I read it both ways over the last couple of years.


Thanks...Steve