Re: [H] Symantec AV went NUTS ?

2008-02-11 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
You could check at the IP level on a box that's not the compromised
machine. Just launch a sniffer and make sure your on a network that can
see the traffic and see where the actual download is going to. Then
compare that to where it should be going to. I bet rootkit is
redirecting your downloads and just serving malware from that new
location. I would be interested in knowing that if it were true.

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good idea, nothing in hosts except
127.0.0.1 localhost

all others show nothing suspicious.
think I will do a rootkit scan for grins.
fp

At 11:07 AM 2/11/2008, Mesdaq, Ali Poked the stick with:

>Check your host file c:\windows\drivers\etc\hosts or check which IP 
>your connecting to for downloads. You might have had a trojan mess with

>your dns settings. This could happen in the host file or at a lower 
>level which will be harder to detect.
>
>Thanks,

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Re: [H] Symantec AV went NUTS ?

2008-02-11 Thread FORC5
good idea, nothing in hosts except
127.0.0.1 localhost

all others show nothing suspicious.
think I will do a rootkit scan for grins.
fp

At 11:07 AM 2/11/2008, Mesdaq, Ali Poked the stick with:

>Check your host file c:\windows\drivers\etc\hosts or check which IP your
>connecting to for downloads. You might have had a trojan mess with your
>dns settings. This could happen in the host file or at a lower level
>which will be harder to detect.
>
>Thanks,

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Re: [H] Symantec AV went NUTS ?

2008-02-11 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
Check your host file c:\windows\drivers\etc\hosts or check which IP your
connecting to for downloads. You might have had a trojan mess with your
dns settings. This could happen in the host file or at a lower level
which will be harder to detect.

Thanks,
--
Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM)
Security Researcher II
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http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com
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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:06 PM
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Subject: [H] Symantec AV went NUTS ?

Have narrowed this down to the scheduled update feature in my SAVC file
dwhwizrd.exe.
When it runs it creates a endless stream of files dwh.tmp ( where
is random numbers) It detects these as a trojan . So does my Webroot
AV.

Have I been infected by a really smart V or is this a bug in my SAVC.

Wondering if anyone else has seen this.?
Getting ready to un install it but meanwhile have disabled scheduled
updates.
Also FWIW it also is detecting tools I have used for years as bad boys.
( combofix and rockxp to name just two) google has shown this to be a
false positive. 

thanks
fp



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Re: [H] Symantec AV went NUTS ?

2008-02-10 Thread FORC5
I do that but it seems not to stick.

Thanks
Fp


At 08:51 PM 2/9/2008, j maccraw Poked the stick with:
>For legit tools, I've had to mark the folders as
>ignore to keep SAV from wiping 
>them out.

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Re: [H] Symantec AV went NUTS ?

2008-02-09 Thread j maccraw
For legit tools, I've had to mark the folders as
ignore to keep SAV from wiping 
them out.

This is Symantec's description of the process:

http://service1.symantec.com/support/ent-security.nsf/docid/242413265148

Someone else asking the same question, no real answer:

http://forums.techguy.org/general-security/637562-solved-3000-trojans-1-month.html


FORC5 wrote:
> Have narrowed this down to the scheduled update
feature in my SAVC
> file dwhwizrd.exe.
> When it runs it creates a endless stream of files
dwh.tmp ( where is random numbers) 
> It detects these as a trojan . So does my Webroot
AV.
> 
> Have I been infected by a really smart V or is this
a bug in my SAVC.
> 
> Wondering if anyone else has seen this.?
> Getting ready to un install it but meanwhile have
disabled scheduled updates.
> Also FWIW it also is detecting tools I have used for
years as bad boys. ( combofix and rockxp to name just
two) google has shown this to be a false positive. 
> 
> thanks
> fp
> 
> 
> 


  

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[H] Symantec AV went NUTS ?

2008-02-09 Thread FORC5
Have narrowed this down to the scheduled update feature in my SAVC
file dwhwizrd.exe.
When it runs it creates a endless stream of files dwh.tmp ( where is 
random numbers) 
It detects these as a trojan . So does my Webroot AV.

Have I been infected by a really smart V or is this a bug in my SAVC.

Wondering if anyone else has seen this.?
Getting ready to un install it but meanwhile have disabled scheduled updates.
Also FWIW it also is detecting tools I have used for years as bad boys. ( 
combofix and rockxp to name just two) google has shown this to be a false 
positive. 

thanks
fp



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