[H] Win7 and Digital Cameras
Has anyone else noticed this: If I hook up my Kodak to this Win7 machine, I noticed two anomalies. First, there is no USB eject, at least that I can find. Second, if I just import pictures from folder to folder, I have absolutely no problems, even copying 50 or 60 in a batch, however, if I let Win7 import the pictures, I frequently get Win7 complaining that the picture is corrupted. If I retry, it will get the picture eventually w/o a problem. With the import I get the ability to date the pictures as they're imported. It just seems like Win7 had a little bit of a problem with this. Steve __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4778 (20100116) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Win7 and Digital Cameras
I just hooked up my Canon 780IS. I don't get a USB eject, but I don't consider that a problem, as I just unplug when I'm done (I can't remember the last time I did an eject device on USB, but I do make sure there is no data transfer going on). I did let Win7 import about 90 photos; they all came in fine with no complains. On 1/17/2010 7:58 AM, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Has anyone else noticed this: If I hook up my Kodak to this Win7 machine, I noticed two anomalies. First, there is no USB eject, at least that I can find. Second, if I just import pictures from folder to folder, I have absolutely no problems, even copying 50 or 60 in a batch, however, if I let Win7 import the pictures, I frequently get Win7 complaining that the picture is corrupted. If I retry, it will get the picture eventually w/o a problem. With the import I get the ability to date the pictures as they're imported. It just seems like Win7 had a little bit of a problem with this. Steve __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4778 (20100116) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.146/2627 - Release Date: 01/16/10 14:35:00
Re: [H] Win7 and Digital Cameras
Thanks, I just wanted to make sure that I shouldn't be seeing an eject. I remember all those Microsoft (and others) warnings about how you can damage your USB device by unplugging it without ejecting it I'll have to search around a bit about the 'corrupted' picture problem. I do get all the pictures, it's just a hassle. Steve Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I just hooked up my Canon 780IS. I don't get a USB eject, but I don't consider that a problem, as I just unplug when I'm done (I can't remember the last time I did an eject device on USB, but I do make sure there is no data transfer going on). I did let Win7 import about 90 photos; they all came in fine with no complains. On 1/17/2010 7:58 AM, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Has anyone else noticed this: If I hook up my Kodak to this Win7 machine, I noticed two anomalies. First, there is no USB eject, at least that I can find. Second, if I just import pictures from folder to folder, I have absolutely no problems, even copying 50 or 60 in a batch, however, if I let Win7 import the pictures, I frequently get Win7 complaining that the picture is corrupted. If I retry, it will get the picture eventually w/o a problem. With the import I get the ability to date the pictures as they're imported. It just seems like Win7 had a little bit of a problem with this. Steve __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4778 (20100116) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.146/2627 - Release Date: 01/16/10 14:35:00 __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4778 (20100116) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4779 (20100117) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Win7 and Digital Cameras
Did you add any software from the camera manufacturer, or allow Windows Update to do that? EVEN the firmware IN a device can make very different things happen. This is in VISTA. (Device embedded memory.) I have one MP3 player that does not get a drive letter, but what shows up in my computer contains the files, in a child directory, again with no drive letter. When I try to play a file it automatically copies it to a temp directory and plays it from there. I could give a step by step if needed, but it is not on this computer, or close by I like cameras with removable media, and NEVER connect a camera to any computer. AND never let a computer write to my camera flash cards. I save a LOT of trouble and damaged files OR CARDS that way. And, USB has its own problems. If things are not perfect (at the lowest levels) very strange things happen... If you don't believe that, buy some cheap flash card readers... Opinions only, no proof or links, etc... Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [H] Win7 and Digital Cameras Thanks, I just wanted to make sure that I shouldn't be seeing an eject. I remember all those Microsoft (and others) warnings about how you can damage your USB device by unplugging it without ejecting it I'll have to search around a bit about the 'corrupted' picture problem. I do get all the pictures, it's just a hassle. Steve Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I just hooked up my Canon 780IS. I don't get a USB eject, but I don't consider that a problem, as I just unplug when I'm done (I can't remember the last time I did an eject device on USB, but I do make sure there is no data transfer going on). I did let Win7 import about 90 photos; they all came in fine with no complains. On 1/17/2010 7:58 AM, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Has anyone else noticed this: If I hook up my Kodak to this Win7 machine, I noticed two anomalies. First, there is no USB eject, at least that I can find. Second, if I just import pictures from folder to folder, I have absolutely no problems, even copying 50 or 60 in a batch, however, if I let Win7 import the pictures, I frequently get Win7 complaining that the picture is corrupted. If I retry, it will get the picture eventually w/o a problem. With the import I get the ability to date the pictures as they're imported. It just seems like Win7 had a little bit of a problem with this. Steve __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4778 (20100116) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.146/2627 - Release Date: 01/16/10 14:35:00 __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4778 (20100116) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4779 (20100117) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Win7 and Digital Cameras
In general I don't install any printer company or camera company's software. Generally it is poorly written and bloated and, in the end, doesn't do what I want it to do and forces me to do it the way they want. And I don't want to waste time uninstalling all the other junk that piggybacks on that software. I don't want Buy Supplies from HP! on my desktop. So, basically, I was very surprised when Win7 actually detected the camera an offered to download pictures. For the first few times, I just opened up the folder and copied pictures over myself. I was just wondering if someone else had the same effects/problems I saw. Like you mentioned, I figured it was some sort of incompatibility. It would seem to me that if you are constantly inserting and removing media you run the risk of damaging the socket (which has a limited number of insertions) and/or static damage to the memory or camera. (Or so says the guy who just blew up a $700 hybrid circuit at work because he didn't put on his wrist strap;-) I didn't know that cheap card readers had problems. I actually have one but have never used it. Have you heard anything about the readers on HP printers? Uh, forget that, I don't think I'd ever stick memory into an HP printer slotLOL Steve Rick Glazier wrote: Did you add any software from the camera manufacturer, or allow Windows Update to do that? EVEN the firmware IN a device can make very different things happen. This is in VISTA. (Device embedded memory.) I have one MP3 player that does not get a drive letter, but what shows up in my computer contains the files, in a child directory, again with no drive letter. When I try to play a file it automatically copies it to a temp directory and plays it from there. I could give a step by step if needed, but it is not on this computer, or close by I like cameras with removable media, and NEVER connect a camera to any computer. AND never let a computer write to my camera flash cards. I save a LOT of trouble and damaged files OR CARDS that way. And, USB has its own problems. If things are not perfect (at the lowest levels) very strange things happen... If you don't believe that, buy some cheap flash card readers... Opinions only, no proof or links, etc... Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: Steve Tomporowski didym...@gmail.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [H] Win7 and Digital Cameras Thanks, I just wanted to make sure that I shouldn't be seeing an eject. I remember all those Microsoft (and others) warnings about how you can damage your USB device by unplugging it without ejecting it I'll have to search around a bit about the 'corrupted' picture problem. I do get all the pictures, it's just a hassle. Steve Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I just hooked up my Canon 780IS. I don't get a USB eject, but I don't consider that a problem, as I just unplug when I'm done (I can't remember the last time I did an eject device on USB, but I do make sure there is no data transfer going on). I did let Win7 import about 90 photos; they all came in fine with no complains. On 1/17/2010 7:58 AM, Steve Tomporowski wrote: Has anyone else noticed this: If I hook up my Kodak to this Win7 machine, I noticed two anomalies. First, there is no USB eject, at least that I can find. Second, if I just import pictures from folder to folder, I have absolutely no problems, even copying 50 or 60 in a batch, however, if I let Win7 import the pictures, I frequently get Win7 complaining that the picture is corrupted. If I retry, it will get the picture eventually w/o a problem. With the import I get the ability to date the pictures as they're imported. It just seems like Win7 had a little bit of a problem with this. Steve __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4778 (20100116) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.146/2627 - Release Date: 01/16/10 14:35:00 __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4778 (20100116) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4779 (20100117) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4780 (20100117) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4780 (20100117) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Win7 and Digital Cameras
Thanks for all the answers. (Same as I would have said if someone had asked me.) grin I got away from even letting Windows auto-transfer the files for me. I manage numbering in the camera, and it is set up to avoid collisions of the numbers. They just increment up forever as set in the camera(S). Not ALL cheap card readers are bad. But 4 out of 4 I got recently were. Two were USB2 and just slow. The others corrupted the pictures, but only sometimes. (YMMV) Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: Steve Tomporowski In general I don't install any printer company or camera company's software.
