Re: [H] Windows 11

[gmxxx]

no


-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of FORC5
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 2:32 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 11


does not 11 force Bitlocker ?

fp

On 8/7/2023 9:02 AM, gm...@att.net wrote:
> You have a problem and it's not W11. I have 3 computers running W11 over year 
> with absolutely no problem.
> I also helped install it on 10 more computers on family machines also with no 
> problems.
> W11 runs fine.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hardware  On Behalf Of Thane 
> K. Sherrington
> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 8:55 AM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Windows 11
>
> In my experience, W11 is flakier than 10, and a bit slower.  When it
> goes wonky (gets trapped in a boot loop for instance, or a repeated
> explorer.exe crash) there doesn't appear to be a way to fix it other
> than a fresh install.  I'd avoid it unless you really need it.
>
> T
>
> On 06-Aug-2023 3:30 p.m., _ Winterlight wrote:
>> Those of you who are using or dealing with Windows 11..I am talking to you 
>> Greg and Chris ...what do you think of it.   I can see myself updating my 
>> Win10 NUC by the end of the year...which I use with my TV...as a way to ease 
>> into this. So any reviews, hints and or warnings appreciated!
>> 

Re: [H] Windows 11

[FORC5]

thanks, appreciate that. may put it on my 
laptop for grins to play as long as I can 
change the menu program .


have even though of just doing Ubuntu on that 
also but hear not game friendly


fp

On 8/7/2023 11:37 AM, James Boswell wrote:

No, the requirements are TPM and secure boot _capable_, it doesn't require
secure boot to be on nor does it enforce bitlocker.

(Running Win11 Pro on an assortment of Ryzen's over here)

On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 19:31, FORC5  wrote:


does not 11 force Bitlocker ?

fp

On 8/7/2023 9:02 AM, gm...@att.net wrote:

You have a problem and it's not W11. I have 3 computers running W11 over

year with absolutely no problem.

I also helped install it on 10 more computers on family machines also

with no problems.

W11 runs fine.


-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of

Thane K. Sherrington

Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 8:55 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 11

In my experience, W11 is flakier than 10, and a bit slower.  When it
goes wonky (gets trapped in a boot loop for instance, or a repeated
explorer.exe crash) there doesn't appear to be a way to fix it other
than a fresh install.  I'd avoid it unless you really need it.

T

On 06-Aug-2023 3:30 p.m., _ Winterlight wrote:

Those of you who are using or dealing with Windows 11..I am talking to

you Greg and Chris ...what do you think of it.   I can see myself updating
my Win10 NUC by the end of the year...which I use with my TV...as a way to
ease into this. So any reviews, hints and or warnings appreciated!

Re: [H] Windows 11

[FORC5]

I do not think my backup sw works with 
Bitlocker, could be wrong but my stuff does 
not move around anyway, desktops only and the 
one laptop I have for vacations only does 
email, nothing else.


fp

On 8/7/2023 11:33 AM, Brian Weeden wrote:

Maybe? All my org's Win10 laptops use Bitlocker by default anyways. Crazy
in this day and age to not have that enabled on things that move around and
can be lost.

Home might be a different issue.

-
Brian



On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 2:31 PM FORC5  wrote:


does not 11 force Bitlocker ?

fp

On 8/7/2023 9:02 AM, gm...@att.net wrote:

You have a problem and it's not W11. I have 3 computers running W11 over

year with absolutely no problem.

I also helped install it on 10 more computers on family machines also

with no problems.

W11 runs fine.


-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of

Thane K. Sherrington

Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 8:55 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 11

In my experience, W11 is flakier than 10, and a bit slower.  When it
goes wonky (gets trapped in a boot loop for instance, or a repeated
explorer.exe crash) there doesn't appear to be a way to fix it other
than a fresh install.  I'd avoid it unless you really need it.

T

On 06-Aug-2023 3:30 p.m., _ Winterlight wrote:

Those of you who are using or dealing with Windows 11..I am talking to

you Greg and Chris ...what do you think of it.   I can see myself updating
my Win10 NUC by the end of the year...which I use with my TV...as a way to
ease into this. So any reviews, hints and or warnings appreciated!

Re: [H] Windows 11

[James Boswell]

No, the requirements are TPM and secure boot _capable_, it doesn't require
secure boot to be on nor does it enforce bitlocker.

(Running Win11 Pro on an assortment of Ryzen's over here)

On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 19:31, FORC5  wrote:

>
> does not 11 force Bitlocker ?
>
> fp
>
> On 8/7/2023 9:02 AM, gm...@att.net wrote:
> > You have a problem and it's not W11. I have 3 computers running W11 over
> year with absolutely no problem.
> > I also helped install it on 10 more computers on family machines also
> with no problems.
> > W11 runs fine.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hardware  On Behalf Of
> Thane K. Sherrington
> > Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 8:55 AM
> > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] Windows 11
> >
> > In my experience, W11 is flakier than 10, and a bit slower.  When it
> > goes wonky (gets trapped in a boot loop for instance, or a repeated
> > explorer.exe crash) there doesn't appear to be a way to fix it other
> > than a fresh install.  I'd avoid it unless you really need it.
> >
> > T
> >
> > On 06-Aug-2023 3:30 p.m., _ Winterlight wrote:
> >> Those of you who are using or dealing with Windows 11..I am talking to
> you Greg and Chris ...what do you think of it.   I can see myself updating
> my Win10 NUC by the end of the year...which I use with my TV...as a way to
> ease into this. So any reviews, hints and or warnings appreciated!
> >> 
>

Re: [H] Windows 11

[Brian Weeden]

Maybe? All my org's Win10 laptops use Bitlocker by default anyways. Crazy
in this day and age to not have that enabled on things that move around and
can be lost.

Home might be a different issue.

-
Brian



On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 2:31 PM FORC5  wrote:

>
> does not 11 force Bitlocker ?
>
> fp
>
> On 8/7/2023 9:02 AM, gm...@att.net wrote:
> > You have a problem and it's not W11. I have 3 computers running W11 over
> year with absolutely no problem.
> > I also helped install it on 10 more computers on family machines also
> with no problems.
> > W11 runs fine.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hardware  On Behalf Of
> Thane K. Sherrington
> > Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 8:55 AM
> > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] Windows 11
> >
> > In my experience, W11 is flakier than 10, and a bit slower.  When it
> > goes wonky (gets trapped in a boot loop for instance, or a repeated
> > explorer.exe crash) there doesn't appear to be a way to fix it other
> > than a fresh install.  I'd avoid it unless you really need it.
> >
> > T
> >
> > On 06-Aug-2023 3:30 p.m., _ Winterlight wrote:
> >> Those of you who are using or dealing with Windows 11..I am talking to
> you Greg and Chris ...what do you think of it.   I can see myself updating
> my Win10 NUC by the end of the year...which I use with my TV...as a way to
> ease into this. So any reviews, hints and or warnings appreciated!
> >> 
>

Re: [H] Windows 11

[FORC5]

does not 11 force Bitlocker ?

fp

On 8/7/2023 9:02 AM, gm...@att.net wrote:

You have a problem and it's not W11. I have 3 computers running W11 over year 
with absolutely no problem.
I also helped install it on 10 more computers on family machines also with no 
problems.
W11 runs fine.


-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of Thane K. 
Sherrington
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 8:55 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 11

In my experience, W11 is flakier than 10, and a bit slower.  When it
goes wonky (gets trapped in a boot loop for instance, or a repeated
explorer.exe crash) there doesn't appear to be a way to fix it other
than a fresh install.  I'd avoid it unless you really need it.

T

On 06-Aug-2023 3:30 p.m., _ Winterlight wrote:

Those of you who are using or dealing with Windows 11..I am talking to you Greg 
and Chris ...what do you think of it.   I can see myself updating my Win10 NUC 
by the end of the year...which I use with my TV...as a way to ease into this. 
So any reviews, hints and or warnings appreciated!

Re: [H] Windows 11

[gmxxx]

You have a problem and it's not W11. I have 3 computers running W11 over year 
with absolutely no problem.
I also helped install it on 10 more computers on family machines also with no 
problems.
W11 runs fine.


-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of Thane K. 
Sherrington
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 8:55 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 11

In my experience, W11 is flakier than 10, and a bit slower.  When it 
goes wonky (gets trapped in a boot loop for instance, or a repeated 
explorer.exe crash) there doesn't appear to be a way to fix it other 
than a fresh install.  I'd avoid it unless you really need it.

T

On 06-Aug-2023 3:30 p.m., _ Winterlight wrote:
> Those of you who are using or dealing with Windows 11..I am talking to you 
> Greg and Chris ...what do you think of it.   I can see myself updating my 
> Win10 NUC by the end of the year...which I use with my TV...as a way to ease 
> into this. So any reviews, hints and or warnings appreciated!
> 

Re: [H] Windows 11

[Brian Weeden]

FWIW on my personal machines I"m still running Win10 (and I've used GRC's
handy little InControl  utility to get
it to shut up about the upgrade notifications). But that's because a)
they're old (still running a 8700k on a A370 mobo) and b) I don't see much
additional value in Win11 yet.

But at some point I will make the leap to take advantage of the free
upgrade and the previously mentioned lack of security patches. Perhaps just
before I build a new machine...

-
Brian



On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 8:55 AM Thane K. Sherrington <
th...@computerconnectionltd.com> wrote:

> In my experience, W11 is flakier than 10, and a bit slower.  When it
> goes wonky (gets trapped in a boot loop for instance, or a repeated
> explorer.exe crash) there doesn't appear to be a way to fix it other
> than a fresh install.  I'd avoid it unless you really need it.
>
> T
>
> On 06-Aug-2023 3:30 p.m., _ Winterlight wrote:
> > Those of you who are using or dealing with Windows 11..I am talking to
> you Greg and Chris ...what do you think of it.   I can see myself updating
> my Win10 NUC by the end of the year...which I use with my TV...as a way to
> ease into this. So any reviews, hints and or warnings appreciated!
> > 
>
>

Re: [H] Windows 11

[Thane K. Sherrington]

In my experience, W11 is flakier than 10, and a bit slower.  When it 
goes wonky (gets trapped in a boot loop for instance, or a repeated 
explorer.exe crash) there doesn't appear to be a way to fix it other 
than a fresh install.  I'd avoid it unless you really need it.


T

On 06-Aug-2023 3:30 p.m., _ Winterlight wrote:

Those of you who are using or dealing with Windows 11..I am talking to you Greg 
and Chris ...what do you think of it.   I can see myself updating my Win10 NUC 
by the end of the year...which I use with my TV...as a way to ease into this. 
So any reviews, hints and or warnings appreciated!

Re: [H] Windows 11

[Greg Sevart]

Honestly, W11 has been fine. My guys at work have done >180 Win11 deployments. 
We have not done in-place upgrades - these are all either new hires or machine 
swaps. Other than MS continuing to make WSUS difficult, nothing really notable 
to report - with the exception of the start menu. On my machines I run a start 
menu replacement (StartAllBack), but we aren't deploying that to others. I did 
the same to W10 with Classic Shell, but it is fully broken with W11 so I had to 
switch to a different solution.

Win10 22H2 will be supported by updates until October 2025 so you do have a 
healthy runway yet.

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of _ 
Winterlight
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 1:31 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Windows 11

Those of you who are using or dealing with Windows 11..I am talking to you Greg 
and Chris ...what do you think of it.   I can see myself updating my Win10 NUC 
by the end of the year...which I use with my TV...as a way to ease into this. 
So any reviews, hints and or warnings appreciated!

[H] Windows 11

[_ Winterlight]

Those of you who are using or dealing with Windows 11..I am talking to you Greg 
and Chris ...what do you think of it.   I can see myself updating my Win10 NUC 
by the end of the year...which I use with my TV...as a way to ease into this. 
So any reviews, hints and or warnings appreciated!