Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware

2013-03-18 Thread Bryan Seiz

On 3/17/2013 8:27 PM, Greg Sevart wrote:

I was pretty sour on W8 until finding StartIsBack (there are others, but they 
had quirks that bugged me). The new task manager and file copy dialog are very 
nice. That, coupled with SMB 3.0, is probably enough to get me to move my 
primary-use systems to it over the coming month or so.

+ 1 :)   I don't even notice it is Win8 other than the copy dialog/task 
manager/nice TRIM support vs defrag.


[H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware

2013-03-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Since I'm going to build a new box (processor and mobo), meaning I have 
to reinstall, I'm thinking of going to Win8.  Mainly because I *hear* 
here, and other places on the web, that it is faster than Win7 on the 
same hardware.


Question 1: Am I going to see problems bringing over programs (not 
drivers?)?


Question 2: Am I going to encounter hardware driver issues and, if so, 
is there a clue as to what?


I assume I will be able to disable, or make go away, the modern UI, if I 
so chose.  It sort of drove me nuts on my touch-screen laptop.


Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware

2013-03-17 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 09:24 AM 17/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Since I'm going to build a new box (processor and mobo), meaning I 
have to reinstall, I'm thinking of going to Win8.  Mainly because I 
*hear* here, and other places on the web, that it is faster than 
Win7 on the same hardware.


Untrue.  I've not tried it yet on fast hardware, but on entry level 
stuff it is a pig.



Question 1: Am I going to see problems bringing over programs (not drivers?)?


I haven't seen any yet.

Question 2: Am I going to encounter hardware driver issues and, if 
so, is there a clue as to what?


Yes.  I've seen issues with sound and networking so far.

T 





Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware

2013-03-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

Oh man! I don't need more headaches.

On 3/17/2013 8:37 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote:

At 09:24 AM 17/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Since I'm going to build a new box (processor and mobo), meaning I 
have to reinstall, I'm thinking of going to Win8.  Mainly because I 
*hear* here, and other places on the web, that it is faster than Win7 
on the same hardware.


Untrue.  I've not tried it yet on fast hardware, but on entry level 
stuff it is a pig.


Question 1: Am I going to see problems bringing over programs (not 
drivers?)?


I haven't seen any yet.

Question 2: Am I going to encounter hardware driver issues and, if 
so, is there a clue as to what?


Yes.  I've seen issues with sound and networking so far.

T






Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware

2013-03-17 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 09:44 AM 17/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Oh man! I don't need more headaches.


Frankly, I can't see the advantage of 8.  Even if it's a little 
faster than 7, and other than some BS startup and shutdown times, the 
fact that everything is buried at least one extra click or movement 
further away than it is in 7 makes the speed increase moot.


T 





Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware

2013-03-17 Thread Steve Tomporowski
I've heard rumors that Microsoft's main partners (like Dell) are bugging 
them to rethink the interface and bring back the start button.


I agree with Thane.  I had to setup Win8 on my sister's new computer 
(actually kinda cool, she's legally blind, so we set her up with a 32 
TV as a monitor) and I spent a lot of time going from to and from the 
desktop.  Win8 seems to continue the trend of making everything as dumb 
as possible and hiding the confusing options.


That said, Sonar X2 runs faster under Win8, but I'm not sure that the 
small boost is worth it.


Steve

On 3/17/2013 9:07 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote:

At 09:44 AM 17/03/2013, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Oh man! I don't need more headaches.


Frankly, I can't see the advantage of 8.  Even if it's a little faster 
than 7, and other than some BS startup and shutdown times, the fact 
that everything is buried at least one extra click or movement further 
away than it is in 7 makes the speed increase moot.


T





Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware

2013-03-17 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 11:40 AM 17/03/2013, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
I've heard rumors that Microsoft's main partners (like Dell) are 
bugging them to rethink the interface and bring back the start button.


That would be the smartest thing they could do.  I'm willing to bet 
they won't do it, because MS believes they are never wrong.


T 





Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware

2013-03-17 Thread Steve Tomporowski

Well, Microsoft is still on trend:

Use XP
Skip Vista
Use 7
Skip 8

Looks like the next operating system will be the one to install

On 3/17/2013 3:33 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote:

At 11:40 AM 17/03/2013, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
I've heard rumors that Microsoft's main partners (like Dell) are 
bugging them to rethink the interface and bring back the start button.


That would be the smartest thing they could do.  I'm willing to bet 
they won't do it, because MS believes they are never wrong.


T





Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware

2013-03-17 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 05:32 PM 17/03/2013, Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Well, Microsoft is still on trend:

Use XP
Skip Vista
Use 7
Skip 8

Looks like the next operating system will be the one to install


I believe that Blue is supposed to use the same Metro interface as 8.

T 





Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware

2013-03-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
I will be installing windows 7. Thanks. 

Sent from my mobile device.

On Mar 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Thane Sherrington 
th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote:

 At 05:32 PM 17/03/2013, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
 Well, Microsoft is still on trend:
 
 Use XP
 Skip Vista
 Use 7
 Skip 8
 
 Looks like the next operating system will be the one to install
 
 I believe that Blue is supposed to use the same Metro interface as 8.
 
 T 
 


Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software Hardware

2013-03-17 Thread Greg Sevart
I was pretty sour on W8 until finding StartIsBack (there are others, but they 
had quirks that bugged me). The new task manager and file copy dialog are very 
nice. That, coupled with SMB 3.0, is probably enough to get me to move my 
primary-use systems to it over the coming month or so.

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Subject: Re: [H] Windows 8 | Software  Hardware

At 11:40 AM 17/03/2013, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
I've heard rumors that Microsoft's main partners (like Dell) are 
bugging them to rethink the interface and bring back the start button.

That would be the smartest thing they could do.  I'm willing to bet 
they won't do it, because MS believes they are never wrong.

T