Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-07 Thread Tim Lider
Duncan,

The problem of copying large amount of files has been a problem with Windows
since I can remember. So, this is not really a problem with Windows 8. On
Windows 8's defense it does a lot better at handling the files while copying
them.

Regards,

On July 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:

 Another W8 glitch? Sheesh!
 Read in the paper last weekend that MS will release 'something' called
 Windows 8.1 this September. Don't know whether this is an
 upgrade, a patch, or whatever. Article mentions many fixes from their
 'complaints' mail. WUP?
 Still no 'START button'  Bummer... :(
 Duncan

 On 07/05/2013 21:57, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:
  Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve
  this.  But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize
  this thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and
  it says your target already has 868 of these files..   Oh.. Hmm.
  Interesting.   So, I let it show me where the target has these files..
  I see them.  I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period).
 
  Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they
  could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.
 

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com


Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-07 Thread Winterlight
This is true, however, I have been using OPUS explorer replacement 
since switching to Windows XP, and ever since, I have never had a 
problem copying anything. In fact, I had completely forgotten that 
there ever was a Windows copying problem.


w



At 06:06 AM 7/7/2013, you wrote:

Duncan,

The problem of copying large amount of files has been a problem with Windows
since I can remember. So, this is not really a problem with Windows 8. On
Windows 8's defense it does a lot better at handling the files while copying
them.

Regards,

On July 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:

 Another W8 glitch? Sheesh!
 Read in the paper last weekend that MS will release 'something' called
 Windows 8.1 this September. Don't know whether this is an
 upgrade, a patch, or whatever. Article mentions many fixes from their
 'complaints' mail. WUP?
 Still no 'START button'  Bummer... :(
 Duncan

 On 07/05/2013 21:57, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:
  Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve
  this.  But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize
  this thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and
  it says your target already has 868 of these files..   Oh.. Hmm.
  Interesting.   So, I let it show me where the target has these files..
  I see them.  I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period).
 
  Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they
  could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.
 

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com




Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-07 Thread Brian Weeden
Windows 8.1 does reintroduce the Start Button to show that they are listening 
to the customer but crucially not the Start Menu.  

In 8.1 there's an option to boot into the classic desktop with a Start Button. 
But when you press that button it simply launches the Metro UI.

Methinks that's not going to placate the pitchforks.


Brian

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 7, 2013, at 15:26, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote:

 This is true, however, I have been using OPUS explorer replacement since 
 switching to Windows XP, and ever since, I have never had a problem copying 
 anything. In fact, I had completely forgotten that there ever was a Windows 
 copying problem.
 
 w
 
 
 
 At 06:06 AM 7/7/2013, you wrote:
 Duncan,
 
 The problem of copying large amount of files has been a problem with Windows
 since I can remember. So, this is not really a problem with Windows 8. On
 Windows 8's defense it does a lot better at handling the files while copying
 them.
 
 Regards,
 
 On July 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:
 
  Another W8 glitch? Sheesh!
  Read in the paper last weekend that MS will release 'something' called
  Windows 8.1 this September. Don't know whether this is an
  upgrade, a patch, or whatever. Article mentions many fixes from their
  'complaints' mail. WUP?
  Still no 'START button'  Bummer... :(
  Duncan
 
  On 07/05/2013 21:57, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:
   Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve
   this.  But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize
   this thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and
   it says your target already has 868 of these files..   Oh.. Hmm.
   Interesting.   So, I let it show me where the target has these files..
   I see them.  I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period).
  
   Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they
   could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.
  
 
 Tim Lider
 Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
 Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
 http://www.adv-data.com
 timli...@adv-data.com
 


Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-07 Thread FORC5

I personally always LOVED powertoys *send too* command.

why that was never inter graded I'll not understand . miss it

At 06:57 PM 7/5/2013, tmse...@rlrnews.com Poked the stick with:
Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve 
this.  But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize 
this thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, 
and it says your target already has 868 of these files..   Oh.. Hmm.
Interesting.   So, I let it show me where the target has these 
files.. I see them.  I try to open them (any of them) they do not 
open (period).


Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they 
could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.


Date:  Sunday, July 7th, 2013

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Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-06 Thread Al Anger

I keep telling people, don't use the right click - move. If it dies, you
in a world of hurt trying to figure what got moved. Only use the copy
and then delete after the copy is successful.

al

On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 21:57:21 -0400
tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:

 Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve this. 
   But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize this 
 thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and it 
 says your target already has 868 of these files..   Oh.. Hmm.  
 Interesting.   So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. I 
 see them.  I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period).
 
 Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they 
 could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.




Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-06 Thread Chris Reeves
Well yes I do that. :). Just referring to copy glitches. I guess back to 
teracopy I go

-Original Message-
From: Al Anger li...@alanger.net
Sent: ‎7/‎6/‎2013 6:35 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function


I keep telling people, don't use the right click - move. If it dies, you
in a world of hurt trying to figure what got moved. Only use the copy
and then delete after the copy is successful.

al

On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 21:57:21 -0400
tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:

 Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve this. 
   But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize this 
 thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and it 
 says your target already has 868 of these files..   Oh.. Hmm.  
 Interesting.   So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. I 
 see them.  I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period).
 
 Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they 
 could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.




Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-06 Thread Al Anger

Well, I got burned once, way back when. The two step method just seems
like basic sound practice. But yes explorer's file handling has always
been buggy.  :(  

On Sat, 6 Jul 2013 07:56:06 -0500
Chris Reeves tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:

 Well yes I do that. :). Just referring to copy glitches. I guess back to 
 teracopy I go



Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-06 Thread Tim Lider
Also, when copying a large amount of data it is a good idea to break  the copy
down into smaller amounts.  What I mean by this is the number of files.  This
was also true in earlier versions of Windows as well. I copy vast amounts of
data everyday so it's a little tip there :)

On July 6, 2013 at 5:34 AM Al Anger li...@alanger.net wrote:


 I keep telling people, don't use the right click - move. If it dies, you
 in a world of hurt trying to figure what got moved. Only use the copy
 and then delete after the copy is successful.

 al

 On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 21:57:21 -0400
 tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:

  Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve this.
But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize this
  thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and it
  says your target already has 868 of these files..   Oh.. Hmm.
  Interesting.   So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. I
  see them.  I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period).
 
  Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they
  could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.


Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com


Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-06 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Is the problem in Windows the number of files or the size of the copy?  
I regularly move: 30+ GB files with no problem. I also move 10s of 
files each in the 2GB range, too.


On..this is Win8. Sorry, silly me. :)

On 7/6/2013 12:09 PM, Tim Lider wrote:

Also, when copying a large amount of data it is a good idea to break  the copy
down into smaller amounts.  What I mean by this is the number of files.  This
was also true in earlier versions of Windows as well. I copy vast amounts of
data everyday so it's a little tip there :)

On July 6, 2013 at 5:34 AM Al Anger li...@alanger.net wrote:


I keep telling people, don't use the right click - move. If it dies, you
in a world of hurt trying to figure what got moved. Only use the copy
and then delete after the copy is successful.

al

On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 21:57:21 -0400
tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:


Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve this.
   But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize this
thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and it
says your target already has 868 of these files..   Oh.. Hmm.
Interesting.   So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. I
see them.  I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period).

Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they
could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.



Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com





Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-06 Thread Tim Lider
Anthony,

I meant a large amount of files.  In some cases we copy over 1 to 2 million
files in one recovery for a clients.  Usually if the file count gets over
200,000 we copy the data in parts. Multiple copying is where Windows 8 excels
at, at times we have 3 to 5 copy processes running at he same time and it runs
well with no errors.

Regards,

On July 6, 2013 at 9:50 AM Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote:

 Is the problem in Windows the number of files or the size of the copy?
 I regularly move: 30+ GB files with no problem. I also move 10s of
 files each in the 2GB range, too.

 On..this is Win8. Sorry, silly me. :)

 On 7/6/2013 12:09 PM, Tim Lider wrote:
  Also, when copying a large amount of data it is a good idea to break  the
  copy
  down into smaller amounts.  What I mean by this is the number of files.
   This
  was also true in earlier versions of Windows as well. I copy vast amounts of
  data everyday so it's a little tip there :)
 
  On July 6, 2013 at 5:34 AM Al Anger li...@alanger.net wrote:
 
  I keep telling people, don't use the right click - move. If it dies, you
  in a world of hurt trying to figure what got moved. Only use the copy
  and then delete after the copy is successful.
 
  al
 
  On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 21:57:21 -0400
  tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:
 
  Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve this.
 But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize this
  thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and it
  says your target already has 868 of these files..   Oh.. Hmm.
  Interesting.   So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. I
  see them.  I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period).
 
  Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they
  could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.
 
  Tim Lider
  Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
  Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
  http://www.adv-data.com
  timli...@adv-data.com
 

Tim Lider
Sr. Data Recovery Specialist
Advanced Data Solutions, LLC
http://www.adv-data.com
timli...@adv-data.com


Re: [H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-06 Thread DSinc

Another W8 glitch? Sheesh!
Read in the paper last weekend that MS will release 'something' called 
Windows 8.1 this September. Don't know whether this is an
upgrade, a patch, or whatever. Article mentions many fixes from their 
'complaints' mail. WUP?

Still no 'START button'  Bummer... :(
Duncan

On 07/05/2013 21:57, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote:
Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve 
this.  But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize 
this thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and 
it says your target already has 868 of these files..   Oh.. Hmm.  
Interesting.   So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. 
I see them.  I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period).


Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they 
could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.






[H] Windows 8 Copy function

2013-07-05 Thread tmservo
Well, points for style, it appears MS has tried to really improve this. 
 But, in copying over a large amount of files today, I realize this 
thing can get VERY confused.. I get to the end of a 4Tb copy, and it 
says your target already has 868 of these files..   Oh.. Hmm.  
Interesting.   So, I let it show me where the target has these files.. I 
see them.  I try to open them (any of them) they do not open (period).


Since this was a fresh copy onto blank drives, I don't know how they 
could be there originally anyway, but still interesting.