Re: [H] i5-750 vs i7-920

2010-02-24 Thread Garind P

Steve,

The interesting thing with i5-750 is overclockable.  My i5-750 is 
able to run at 3.6GHz daily use, and the i7-920 3.3GHz daily.  Of 
course all need HSF upgrade to Xigmatek Red-Scorpion.


I haven't tried Core-two-Duo Quad-core previously,  so dunno the 
increment with the new one.  My older one is E6600 (default speed 2.4GHz)


At 12:44 AM 2/20/2010, you wrote:

Not that I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new upgrade, but I was
wondering what kind of performance increase I could expect from an
upgrade.  Currently my fastest system is an E8500 (the other is an
E6850) and I was looking at bang for the buck.  Here's the confusion,
in comparing the i5-750 and i7-920 (roughly my price range), the
benchmarks are all over the place with one not definitively better
than the other.  The big issue, of course, is that the i7-920 is about
$100 more.  So is there any reason (for a gamer) to go with the i7-920
over the i5-750?

ThanksSteve





Re: [H] i5-750 vs i7-920

2010-02-19 Thread Greg Sevart
The one thing that keeps me torn between the 800 series LGA1156 and 900
series LGA1366 chips is the number of PCI Express lanes. The LGA1156 chip
and P55 platform offer very few PCIe lanes at 24 (16 from the CPU itself,
plus 8 from the P55), whereas X58 with ICH10 offers 42 lanes (36 from X58, 6
from ICH10). 24 is probably more than enough for most systems, but with one
(or more) GPUs, a RAID controller, and a smattering of onboard and add-in
components, and you're well beyond the LGA1156/P55's capabilities. Plus, the
PCIe lanes from the CPU itself can become a constraint when overclocking,
since they're tied to the chip's uncore clock.


> -Original Message-
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> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Veech
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:23 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] i5-750 vs i7-920
> 
> yep..  from what I looked at, the i7-860 is the one to get.  Like the
> 5850
> graphics card, the i7-860 hits the higher end sweet spot for
> price/performance.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Tomporowski" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 16:48
> Subject: Re: [H] i5-750 vs i7-920
> 
> 
> > Gee, James, thanks for muddying the water some more! ;-)
> >
> > Actually I hadn't considered it and, from the benchmarks I just went
> to
> > look at, I believe you're correct.  For the most part it is faster
> than
> > either the i7-920 and the i5-750, didn't check price but did notice
> that
> > it also runs cooler than the 920.
> >
> > Thanks muchSteve
> >
> > On 2/19/2010 2:47 PM, James Boswell wrote:
> >> I'm gonna say... I7-860
> >> roughly the same price for the chip as the 920, fits the same board
> as
> >> the i5-750 and is quicker than either
> >>
> >> 2.83Ghz base clock, peak of.. 3.46Ghz turboboost (IIRC)
> >> 4 cores, HT enabled
> >>
> >> On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:44:280, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
> >>
> >>> Not that I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new upgrade, but I was
> >>> wondering what kind of performance increase I could expect from an
> >>> upgrade.  Currently my fastest system is an E8500 (the other is an
> >>> E6850) and I was looking at bang for the buck.  Here's the
> confusion,
> >>> in comparing the i5-750 and i7-920 (roughly my price range), the
> >>> benchmarks are all over the place with one not definitively better
> >>> than the other.  The big issue, of course, is that the i7-920 is
> about
> >>> $100 more.  So is there any reason (for a gamer) to go with the i7-
> 920
> >>> over the i5-750?
> >>>
> >>> ThanksSteve
> >>
> >>
> >





Re: [H] i5-750 vs i7-920

2010-02-19 Thread Veech
yep..  from what I looked at, the i7-860 is the one to get.  Like the 5850 
graphics card, the i7-860 hits the higher end sweet spot for 
price/performance.



- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Tomporowski" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 16:48
Subject: Re: [H] i5-750 vs i7-920



Gee, James, thanks for muddying the water some more! ;-)

Actually I hadn't considered it and, from the benchmarks I just went to 
look at, I believe you're correct.  For the most part it is faster than 
either the i7-920 and the i5-750, didn't check price but did notice that 
it also runs cooler than the 920.


Thanks muchSteve

On 2/19/2010 2:47 PM, James Boswell wrote:

I'm gonna say... I7-860
roughly the same price for the chip as the 920, fits the same board as 
the i5-750 and is quicker than either


2.83Ghz base clock, peak of.. 3.46Ghz turboboost (IIRC)
4 cores, HT enabled

On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:44:280, Steve Tomporowski wrote:


Not that I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new upgrade, but I was
wondering what kind of performance increase I could expect from an
upgrade.  Currently my fastest system is an E8500 (the other is an
E6850) and I was looking at bang for the buck.  Here's the confusion,
in comparing the i5-750 and i7-920 (roughly my price range), the
benchmarks are all over the place with one not definitively better
than the other.  The big issue, of course, is that the i7-920 is about
$100 more.  So is there any reason (for a gamer) to go with the i7-920
over the i5-750?

ThanksSteve









Re: [H] i5-750 vs i7-920

2010-02-19 Thread Steve Tomporowski

Gee, James, thanks for muddying the water some more! ;-)

Actually I hadn't considered it and, from the benchmarks I just went to 
look at, I believe you're correct.  For the most part it is faster than 
either the i7-920 and the i5-750, didn't check price but did notice that 
it also runs cooler than the 920.


Thanks muchSteve

On 2/19/2010 2:47 PM, James Boswell wrote:

I'm gonna say... I7-860
roughly the same price for the chip as the 920, fits the same board as 
the i5-750 and is quicker than either


2.83Ghz base clock, peak of.. 3.46Ghz turboboost (IIRC)
4 cores, HT enabled

On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:44:280, Steve Tomporowski wrote:


Not that I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new upgrade, but I was
wondering what kind of performance increase I could expect from an
upgrade.  Currently my fastest system is an E8500 (the other is an
E6850) and I was looking at bang for the buck.  Here's the confusion,
in comparing the i5-750 and i7-920 (roughly my price range), the
benchmarks are all over the place with one not definitively better
than the other.  The big issue, of course, is that the i7-920 is about
$100 more.  So is there any reason (for a gamer) to go with the i7-920
over the i5-750?

ThanksSteve







Re: [H] i5-750 vs i7-920

2010-02-19 Thread James Boswell

I'm gonna say... I7-860
roughly the same price for the chip as the 920, fits the same board as  
the i5-750 and is quicker than either


2.83Ghz base clock, peak of.. 3.46Ghz turboboost (IIRC)
4 cores, HT enabled

On 19 Feb 2010, at 17:44:280, Steve Tomporowski wrote:


Not that I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new upgrade, but I was
wondering what kind of performance increase I could expect from an
upgrade.  Currently my fastest system is an E8500 (the other is an
E6850) and I was looking at bang for the buck.  Here's the confusion,
in comparing the i5-750 and i7-920 (roughly my price range), the
benchmarks are all over the place with one not definitively better
than the other.  The big issue, of course, is that the i7-920 is about
$100 more.  So is there any reason (for a gamer) to go with the i7-920
over the i5-750?

ThanksSteve




Re: [H] i5-750 vs i7-920

2010-02-19 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
How long until the next upgrade?  If you plan to keep that chip for 4 
years and the 920 is faster on most things you will be doing (based on 
extrapolated data from those charts), then you're only paying $25 / year 
for that.  Of course, you need to be able to afford it now.


I think bang-for-your-buck calculations are really hard to do nowadays. 
so many options and scattered benchmark performance.  The chip makers 
have done an excellent job in confusing the market for buyers, IMO.


If you think you'll upgrade again soon, I'd get the cheaper chip.

On 2/19/2010 12:44 PM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Not that I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new upgrade, but I was
wondering what kind of performance increase I could expect from an
upgrade.  Currently my fastest system is an E8500 (the other is an
E6850) and I was looking at bang for the buck.  Here's the confusion,
in comparing the i5-750 and i7-920 (roughly my price range), the
benchmarks are all over the place with one not definitively better
than the other.  The big issue, of course, is that the i7-920 is about
$100 more.  So is there any reason (for a gamer) to go with the i7-920
over the i5-750?

ThanksSteve



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[H] i5-750 vs i7-920

2010-02-19 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Not that I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new upgrade, but I was
wondering what kind of performance increase I could expect from an
upgrade.  Currently my fastest system is an E8500 (the other is an
E6850) and I was looking at bang for the buck.  Here's the confusion,
in comparing the i5-750 and i7-920 (roughly my price range), the
benchmarks are all over the place with one not definitively better
than the other.  The big issue, of course, is that the i7-920 is about
$100 more.  So is there any reason (for a gamer) to go with the i7-920
over the i5-750?

ThanksSteve