date:20170105

Re: [ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians

2017-01-05 Thread Aileen Grossberg

It would be a wonderful accomplishment and help mightily when weeding older 
books from small libraries like mine. I am often hesitant about discarding 
older books which no longer have a place both in use, interest, or physical 
self space in my library but I would keep for historic reasons if they appeared 
to be  last copies.

Aileen Grossberg
Lambert Library
Congregation Shomrei Emunah
Montclair, NJ
and Jacobs Library
Oohed Shalom Congregation
South Orange, NJ






-Original Message-
From: Barbara Leff 
To: Toby Harris 
Cc: hasafran ; enidl 
Sent: Thu, Jan 5, 2017 8:15 pm
Subject: Re: [ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians



I had a similar idea about creating a database of Jewish resources way back in 
1980, when I was AJL President.  I invited colleagues from academic/archival 
libraries, synagogue/school/center libraries, Bureau of Jewish Education 
directors, Jewish publishers, and others.  We called the committee, “Creation 
of National Jewish Bibliographic Data Base.”   We discussed it for quite awhile 
via the U.S. mail.  (We didn’t have the luxury of the Internet or emails 
then!).  We met at national conventions and once even in my Library in Los 
Angeles.  It was of great interest.  I remember that we reached the point of 
discussing potential funding sources!


BUT, then, the 1982 Lebanon War occurred, and all funding priorities were for 
Israel's defenses, of course, and none for future resources.  I think I may 
still have the correspondence hard copies - but doubt that it would be of much 
use from 34 years ago.


I don’t recall hearing anything more about this idea, but I’m long retired from 
the AJL Board.  


I like to keep current - thus my joining this ha-Safran discussion.  I still 
think it's a very very worthwhile project and, with today’s technology, it 
seems very doable. 


Best of luck to you.
B’Shalom,
Barbara


Barbara Y. Leff, M.S.L.S.
President, Association of Jewish Libraries (AJL), 1980-1982
Library Director, Stephen S. Wise Temple, Los Angeles, 1969-1996.
Founder/Chair of national committee, "Creation of National Jewish Bibliographic 
Data Base," 1980-84.


Website Committee Chair, AJL of Southern California (www.AJLSC.org), 
2003-current
4949 Genesta Ave., #302, Encino, CA 91316
byl...@me.com - 818.981.6920






On Jan 5, 2017, at 1:37 PM, Toby Harris  wrote:



Dear Martha:
 
I don’t know of one – other than Worldcat, which smaller Jewish libraries and 
maybe some academics aren’t members of.  Sounds like a great idea! 
 

Toby Harris, Librarian
Temple De Hirsch Sinai
206-693-3379 Seattle
425-559-2578  Bellevue
http://lib.tdhs-nw.org for library hours, programs and CATALOG 



 

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McMahon
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Subject: [ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians

 


A member of the board of the Jewish Virtual Library posed these questions if 
anyone can share their thoughts:
 

I wanted to know if
 

1. there is a website which combines all digital catalogues from Jewish 
libraries around the world, which would allow complex searches, such as "show 
me all books on Theodore Herzl's childhood within a 50 mile radius of Los 
Angeles" 

 

2. Would Jewish librarians want such a site constructed if not available?

 




 


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Re: [ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians

2017-01-05 Thread Barbara Leff

I had a similar idea about creating a database of Jewish resources way back in 
1980, when I was AJL President.  I invited colleagues from academic/archival 
libraries, synagogue/school/center libraries, Bureau of Jewish Education 
directors, Jewish publishers, and others.  We called the committee, “Creation 
of National Jewish Bibliographic Data Base.”   We discussed it for quite awhile 
via the U.S. mail.  (We didn’t have the luxury of the Internet or emails 
then!).  We met at national conventions and once even in my Library in Los 
Angeles.  It was of great interest.  I remember that we reached the point of 
discussing potential funding sources!

BUT, then, the 1982 Lebanon War occurred, and all funding priorities were for 
Israel's defenses, of course, and none for future resources.  I think I may 
still have the correspondence hard copies - but doubt that it would be of much 
use from 34 years ago.

I don’t recall hearing anything more about this idea, but I’m long retired from 
the AJL Board.  

I like to keep current - thus my joining this ha-Safran discussion.  I still 
think it's a very very worthwhile project and, with today’s technology, it 
seems very doable. 

Best of luck to you.
B’Shalom,
Barbara

Barbara Y. Leff, M.S.L.S.
President, Association of Jewish Libraries (AJL), 1980-1982
Library Director, Stephen S. Wise Temple, Los Angeles, 1969-1996.
Founder/Chair of national committee, "Creation of National Jewish Bibliographic 
Data Base," 1980-84.
Website Committee Chair, AJL of Southern California (www.AJLSC.org 
), 2003-current
4949 Genesta Ave., #302, Encino, CA 91316
byl...@me.com - 818.981.6920


On Jan 5, 2017, at 1:37 PM, Toby Harris  wrote:

Dear Martha:
 
I don’t know of one – other than Worldcat, which smaller Jewish libraries and 
maybe some academics aren’t members of.  Sounds like a great idea! 
 
Toby Harris, Librarian
Temple De Hirsch Sinai
206-693-3379  Seattle
425-559-2578   Bellevue
http://lib.tdhs-nw.org  for library hours, programs 
and CATALOG 

 
From: Hasafran [mailto:hasafran-boun...@lists.osu.edu 
] On Behalf Of Martha McMahon
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 11:00 AM
To: hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu 

Cc: en...@aol.com 
Subject: [ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians
 
A member of the board of the Jewish Virtual Library posed these questions if 
anyone can share their thoughts:
 
I wanted to know if
 
1. there is a website which combines all digital catalogues from Jewish 
libraries around the world, which would allow complex searches, such as "show 
me all books on Theodore Herzl's childhood within a 50 mile radius of Los 
Angeles" 
 
2. Would Jewish librarians want such a site constructed if not available?
 

 
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Re: [ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians

2017-01-05 Thread ted

There are two realistic ways of doing this sort of thing.Note:   this is 
what I do for a living – library automation – so I think I’m qualified to reply.

  a.. Creating a physical Union catalog – that is, collecting the MARC records 
and holdings information, loading them into a single database, indexing them 
and then applying geographical limits to searches.This is what OCLC does in 
WorldCat, and to a lesser degree what certain statewide Union Catalogs – for 
example, Indiana, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Michigan, and Wisconsin – do to make 
all library holdings in the state available. 

  The main issue with this approach is upkeep and maintenance.  Each of 
the individual libraries that is in the Union Catalog needs to output their 
records periodically (monthly, quarterly) and upload them to the host, and the 
host needs to load and index them.  This means that the database 
being viewed is always a month or more out-of-date.

  a..The second approach (virtual union catalog)  is through the use of 
Z39.50 (remote searching).  A local library needs to have a Z39.50 client 
capable of searching remote libraries that host Z39.50 servers.   With Z39.50, 
you’re searching the real, live-up to the minute holdings of the remote 
library.   You want to look for a book on Herzl that the library bought 
yesterday, and it shows up.

There are a couple of downsides to this approach:
- you or your system needs to have a Z39.50 client
- the targets you want to search need to support Z39.50 servers 
– not all do, particularly smaller ones
- Unless your system does federated searching (i.e. being able 
to broadcast a Z39.30 search to multiple Z39.50 servers at the same time), then 
you’ll be searching catalogs one-by-one


So all the tools exist today.   Both take work.

Ted

Ted Koppel
tkop...@comcast.net

From: Toby Harris 
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To: Martha McMahon ; hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu 
Cc: en...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians

Dear Martha:

 

I don’t know of one – other than Worldcat, which smaller Jewish libraries and 
maybe some academics aren’t members of.  Sounds like a great idea!  

 

Toby Harris, Librarian

Temple De Hirsch Sinai

206-693-3379 Seattle

425-559-2578  Bellevue

http://lib.tdhs-nw.org for library hours, programs and CATALOG 

 

From: Hasafran [mailto:hasafran-boun...@lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Martha 
McMahon
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 11:00 AM
To: hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu
Cc: en...@aol.com
Subject: [ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians

 

A member of the board of the Jewish Virtual Library posed these questions if 
anyone can share their thoughts:

 

I wanted to know if

 

1. there is a website which combines all digital catalogues from Jewish 
libraries around the world, which would allow complex searches, such as "show 
me all books on Theodore Herzl's childhood within a 50 mile radius of Los 
Angeles" 

 

2. Would Jewish librarians want such a site constructed if not available?

 

 

 

 

  




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[ha-Safran] Weine call number suggestions, please

2017-01-05 Thread Amy Turim

Just received a book I’d ordered by Todd Parr, who writes so well for young
children, addressing issues and feelings with empathy and gentle
self-empowerment. These are not overtly Jewish books, but I’m glad to
include them in my synagogue library.

The two I already have are easily catalogued under Grief and Mourning, but
I’m stuck on *THE I’M NOT SCARED BOOK*, and hope someone else has been down
this road and can help me out!



Thanks very much –

Amy Turim

Temple Emanuel

Kensington, MD

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Re: [ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians

2017-01-05 Thread Michelle Chesner

It sounds to me like they're looking for a version of Worldcat tailored to
Jewish libraries.  What do they mean by Jewish library?  Do they mean
libraries in Jewish institutions?  Institutions containing Judaica?  More
clarification would help.

My best,
Michelle

Michelle Chesner
Norman E. Alexander Librarian for Jewish Studies
Columbia University

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Martha McMahon 
wrote:

> A member of the board of the Jewish Virtual Library posed these questions
> if anyone can share their thoughts:
>
>
>
> I wanted to know if
>
>
>
> 1. there is a website which combines all digital catalogues from Jewish
> libraries around the world, which would allow complex searches, such as
> "show me all books on Theodore Herzl's childhood within a 50 mile radius of
> Los Angeles"
>
>
>
> 2. Would Jewish librarians want such a site constructed if not available?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians

2017-01-05 Thread Toby Harris

Dear Martha:

I don't know of one - other than Worldcat, which smaller Jewish libraries and 
maybe some academics aren't members of.  Sounds like a great idea!

Toby Harris, Librarian
Temple De Hirsch Sinai
206-693-3379 Seattle
425-559-2578  Bellevue
http://lib.tdhs-nw.org for library hours, programs and 
CATALOG

From: Hasafran [mailto:hasafran-boun...@lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Martha 
McMahon
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 11:00 AM
To: hasaf...@lists.service.ohio-state.edu
Cc: en...@aol.com
Subject: [ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians

A member of the board of the Jewish Virtual Library posed these questions if 
anyone can share their thoughts:

I wanted to know if

1. there is a website which combines all digital catalogues from Jewish 
libraries around the world, which would allow complex searches, such as "show 
me all books on Theodore Herzl's childhood within a 50 mile radius of Los 
Angeles"

2. Would Jewish librarians want such a site constructed if not available?





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[ha-Safran] Questions for Jewish Librarians

2017-01-05 Thread Martha McMahon

A member of the board of the Jewish Virtual Library posed these questions if 
anyone can share their thoughts:

I wanted to know if

1. there is a website which combines all digital catalogues from Jewish 
libraries around the world, which would allow complex searches, such as "show 
me all books on Theodore Herzl's childhood within a 50 mile radius of Los 
Angeles"

2. Would Jewish librarians want such a site constructed if not available?





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