Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
What's the status on this? Have we applied as organization? Do we have enough mentors? Cheers, Johan On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Edward Kmett wrote: > I would happily participate as a mentor again and I am willing to step up > as administrator if you want to get it off your plate. > > -Edward Kmett > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Malcolm Wallace < > malcolm.wall...@cs.york.ac.uk> wrote: > >> Google has announced that the Summer of Code programme will be running >> again this year. If haskell.org people would like to take part again >> this year, then we need volunteers: >> >> First, >>* suggestions for suitable projects >> (in the past this was organised using a reddit) >>* an administrator to co-ordinate the application to Google >> (I have done it for the last three years but am very willing >> to hand on to someone else) >> >> Google will accept applications from organisations in the period 8th - >> 12th March 2010, approx 1900UTC. >> >> If haskell.org is accepted again, students can apply between 29th March - >> 9th April. >> More volunteers will be required: >> >>* to review student applications and choose which to accept >>* to supervise the accepted students >> >> Both of these roles are called "mentor" in the Google system. Putting >> together a good team of mentors before applying as an organisation is >> helpful towards us being accepted into the programme. >> >> Regards, >>Malcolm > > ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Johan Tibell wrote:
> I think I would use the module system for namespacing rather than using
> function prefixes. Like so:
> import Text.Html as E
> import qualified Text.Html.Attribute as A
> E.html ! [A.class_ "my-class"] (... more combinators ...)
>
> (Assuming that "!" is used to introduce attributes.)
> This allows you to use the element names and/or the attribute names
> unclassified if you so desire.
> html ! [class_ "my-class"] (... more combinators ...)
>>
>> Function names in the 'html' library are unpredictable from
>> corresponding element/attribute names...
>> ("head", "base", "a" => "header", "thebase", "anchor")
>
> I'm of the same opinion. The combinators should match the element/attribute
> names as far as possible. The rule that I had in mind was that the
> combinators should have exactly the same name as the corresponding
> element/tag except when the name collides with a keyword (e.g. "class"). If
> the name collides with a keyword we could e.g. always append a "_".
That's fine.
However, I think no one uses unqualified import actually because of
conflict with basic functions ("head", "id", "map") and existent of
single character functions ("a", "b", "i", "p").
Anyway, I like the project.
Thanks,
iquiw
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Johan Tibell wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:48 AM, iquiw wrote: > >> I think I would use the module system for namespacing rather than using >> function prefixes. Like so: > > > import Text.Html as E > import qualified Text.Html.Attribute as A > > E.html ! [A.class_ "my-class"] (... more combinators ...) > > (Assuming that "!" is used to introduce attributes.) > > This allows you to use the element names and/or the attribute names > unclassified if you so desire. > This should of course have been "unqualified"! ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:48 AM, iquiw wrote:
> Hi Johan,
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Johan Tibell
> wrote:
> > Here's a proposal for a project I'd be willing to mentor:
> > = A high-performance HTML combinator library using Data.Text =
>
> Nice project! I would like to see the project will be accepted.
>
> Perhaps it's not scope of the project, but if compatibility doesn't
> matter, I want new HTML library have uniform naming convention
> for functions that based on element or attribute.
>
> For example, function name should be;
> - "e_" + element name ("html", "head", "body" => "e_html", "e_head",
> "e_body")
> "a_" + attribute name ("href", "id", "class" => "a_href", "a_id",
> "a_class")
> or
> - "e" + capitalized element name ("html", "head", "body" => "eHtml",
> "eHead", "eBody")
> "a" + capitalized attribute name ("href", "id", "class" => "aHref",
> "aId", "aClass")
>
> or some other convention.
>
I think I would use the module system for namespacing rather than using
function prefixes. Like so:
import Text.Html as E
import qualified Text.Html.Attribute as A
E.html ! [A.class_ "my-class"] (... more combinators ...)
(Assuming that "!" is used to introduce attributes.)
This allows you to use the element names and/or the attribute names
unclassified if you so desire.
html ! [class_ "my-class"] (... more combinators ...)
Function names in the 'html' library are unpredictable from
> corresponding element/attribute names...
> ("head", "base", "a" => "header", "thebase", "anchor")
>
I'm of the same opinion. The combinators should match the element/attribute
names as far as possible. The rule that I had in mind was that the
combinators should have exactly the same name as the corresponding
element/tag except when the name collides with a keyword (e.g. "class"). If
the name collides with a keyword we could e.g. always append a "_".
Cheers,
Johan
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
Hi Johan,
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Johan Tibell wrote:
> Here's a proposal for a project I'd be willing to mentor:
> = A high-performance HTML combinator library using Data.Text =
Nice project! I would like to see the project will be accepted.
Perhaps it's not scope of the project, but if compatibility doesn't
matter, I want new HTML library have uniform naming convention
for functions that based on element or attribute.
For example, function name should be;
- "e_" + element name ("html", "head", "body" => "e_html", "e_head", "e_body")
"a_" + attribute name ("href", "id", "class" => "a_href", "a_id", "a_class")
or
- "e" + capitalized element name ("html", "head", "body" => "eHtml",
"eHead", "eBody")
"a" + capitalized attribute name ("href", "id", "class" => "aHref",
"aId", "aClass")
or some other convention.
Function names in the 'html' library are unpredictable from
corresponding element/attribute names...
("head", "base", "a" => "header", "thebase", "anchor")
-- iquiw
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Malcolm Wallace < malcolm.wall...@cs.york.ac.uk> wrote: > Google has announced that the Summer of Code programme will be running > again this year. If haskell.org people would like to take part again this > year, then we need volunteers: > > First, >* suggestions for suitable projects > (in the past this was organised using a reddit) Here's a proposal for a project I'd be willing to mentor: = A high-performance HTML combinator library using Data.Text = Almost all web applications need to generate HTML for rendering in the user's browser. The three perhaps most important properties in an HTML generation library are: - High performance: Given that the network introduces a lot of latency the server is left with very little time to create a response to send back to the client. Every millisecond not spent on generating HTML can be used to process the user's request. Furthermore, efficient use of the server's resources is important to keep the number of clients per server high and costs per client low. - Correctness: Incorrectly created HTML can result in anything from incorrect rendering (in the best case) to XSS attacks (in the worst case). - Composability: Being able to create small widgets and reuse them in several pages fosters consistency in the generated output and helps both correctness and reuse. (Formlets play a big roll here but being able to treat HTML fragments as values rather than as strings is important too.) Combinator libraries, like the 'html' package on Hackage [1], address the the last two criteria by making the generated HTML correct by construction and making HTML fragments first class values. Traditional templating systems generally have the first property, offering excellent performance, but lacks the other two. Task: Create a new HTML combinator library, based on the 'html' library, that's blazing fast, well tested and well documented. Also improve upon the 'html' package's API by e.g. splitting the attribute related functions into their own module. Tools: QuickCheck for testing, Criterion for benchmarking, and Haddock for documenting. 1. http://hackage.haskell.org/package/html -- Johan ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
I'll just toss this idea out there: I want to be able to pick a runtime to compile against. Some Ada compilers allow me to specify a runtime to use with a --RTS flag. This, of course, also means we'd need to write more runtime variants. I dropped this on the haskell_proposals reddit for safe keeping/evaluation: http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell_proposals/comments/azjah/pluggable_rts_for_ghc_pickyourownruntime/ /jve On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Malcolm Wallace < malcolm.wall...@cs.york.ac.uk> wrote: > Google has announced that the Summer of Code programme will be running > again this year. If haskell.org people would like to take part again this > year, then we need volunteers: > > First, >* suggestions for suitable projects > (in the past this was organised using a reddit) >* an administrator to co-ordinate the application to Google > (I have done it for the last three years but am very willing > to hand on to someone else) > > Google will accept applications from organisations in the period 8th - 12th > March 2010, approx 1900UTC. > > If haskell.org is accepted again, students can apply between 29th March - > 9th April. > More volunteers will be required: > >* to review student applications and choose which to accept >* to supervise the accepted students > > Both of these roles are called "mentor" in the Google system. Putting > together a good team of mentors before applying as an organisation is > helpful towards us being accepted into the programme. > > Regards, >Malcolm > > ___ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
If the goal is to have "more source code [..] created and released for the use and benefit of all", how does my project fail to achieve this? Also, it is worth pointing out that from Google's point of view, they are most interested in whether the programme yields students who stick around and continue to contribute to open source projects. I think Niklas and his HSE library very visibly pass on both criteria - quality code that is actively used, and a continuing contribution. Regards, Malcolm ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
> There may be an eternal discussion on it, but it seems pretty clear to > me which side SoC comes down on: http://code.google.com/soc/ I'm really not sure what you're getting at. How do the points you list not relate to my project? And how does my analogy contradict any of those points? If the goal is to have "more source code [..] created and released for the use and benefit of all", how does my project fail to achieve this? /Niklas ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Niklas Broberg wrote: > I'm at a loss as to what criteria is actually used to judge success > here. It seems to me a bit like the eternal discussion between "basic > research" and "applied research". Just because something > (research/library/project) doesn't have an immediate, palpable impact > and/or delivers a visible tool, that certainly doesn't imply that it > doesn't have merit or won't have as profound an impact on the domain, > if more diffuse than a tool (or other palpable deliverable) would. > > /Niklas There may be an eternal discussion on it, but it seems pretty clear to me which side SoC comes down on: http://code.google.com/soc/ "Through Google Summer of Code, accepted student applicants are paired with a mentor or mentors from the participating projects, thus gaining exposure to real-world software development scenarios and the opportunity for employment in areas related to their academic pursuits. In turn, the participating projects are able to more easily identify and bring in new developers. Best of all, more source code is created and released for the use and benefit of all." or http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs#goals # Google Summer of Code has several goals: * Get more open source code created and released for the benefit of all * Inspire young developers to begin participating in open source development * Help open source projects identify and bring in new developers and committers * Provide students the opportunity to do work related to their academic pursuits during the summer (think "flip bits, not burgers") * Give students more exposure to real-world software development scenarios (e.g., distributed development, software licensing questions, mailing-list etiquette) -- gwern ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Edward Kmett wrote: > You can add me to the list of voices that were unwilling to use it before > the summer-of-code project due to the random incompatibilities caused by the > huge supply of extensions it supported out of the box, but who were happy to > switch to it after the changes were made to make them configurable. This was indeed the main priority of the project, and the reason why even I would not have recommended anyone to use haskell-src-exts in production before the project. > The rest is just gravy that happens to permit a number of applications such > as refactoring browsers that were impossible with the previous > implementation. And, as I recall, the fairly radical exploratory "pretty > print . parse = id" goal was explicitly listed merely as a secondary goal on > the original application. Indeed it was, and I am not aware of any major applications that actually use the exact-print functionality yet (please, tell me if you have one!). I do know of several that make very good use of the new Annotated syntax tree, though, which was introduced as a step towards exact-printing. The benefits of that, together with the configurable extensions, is more than enough to now make me happily recommend haskell-src-exts to anyone working with Haskell source code in any application. The rest is, as you accurately put it, just gravy. I must admit I'm a bit sad to have the value of my project questioned in this way, a project that I myself was more than pleased with, both with the actual work achieved and the significant positive feedback I have received after its conclusion. If haskell-src-exts was indeed popular even before the project, that's all well and good to me. But it doesn't mean that the library offered to the users then was satisfactory, nor does it mean that the project failed to deliver something that those same users needed and/or could make good use of. Even if the number of direct users did not rise dramatically as a consequence of the project, why would it not be valid use of a project slot to greatly improve a library that was already popular? Browsing the numbers [1] posted by Don Stewart in September last year (the Haskell Symposium figures, which is the latest I could find) suggests a substantial increase of downloads of the package both before, during and after the project, but I can only speculate why. And since the project concluded late August, figures for September and onwards would have been more telling. I'm at a loss as to what criteria is actually used to judge success here. It seems to me a bit like the eternal discussion between "basic research" and "applied research". Just because something (research/library/project) doesn't have an immediate, palpable impact and/or delivers a visible tool, that certainly doesn't imply that it doesn't have merit or won't have as profound an impact on the domain, if more diffuse than a tool (or other palpable deliverable) would. /Niklas [1] http://www.galois.com/~dons/hackage/september-2009/total-downloads.html ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
You can add me to the list of voices that were unwilling to use it before the summer-of-code project due to the random incompatibilities caused by the huge supply of extensions it supported out of the box, but who were happy to switch to it after the changes were made to make them configurable. That said, I don't support a major public application. But keep in mind haskell-src-exts is used by almost every quasiquoter that wants antiquotation, so the improvements in mere compatibility with Haskell 98 as a baseline have had fairly wide-reaching impact, affecting almost every one of those 23 (or 57 depending how you count) dependencies on the haskell-src-exts library. One might argue that that well exceeds your 3 or 4 feature user guideline. =) The rest is just gravy that happens to permit a number of applications such as refactoring browsers that were impossible with the previous implementation. And, as I recall, the fairly radical exploratory "pretty print . parse = id" goal was explicitly listed merely as a secondary goal on the original application. It seems hardly appropriate to judge the impact of the entire SoC effort on the impact of that secondary exploratory component. -Edward Kmett On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Gwern Branwen wrote: > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Sittampalam, Ganesh > wrote: > > Gwern Branwen wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Henk-Jan van Tuyl > >> wrote: > >>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:34:34 +0100, Neil Mitchell > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > Hi Gwern, > > Please update: "haskell-src-exts -> haskell-src" **Unknown** > > This project was an unqualified success. haskell-src-exts is now > one > of the most commonly used Haskell libraries, achieved the goals in > the project proposal, and is an essential piece of Haskell > infrastructure. > >>> > >>> You can see this using Roel van Dijk's reversed dependencies > >>> overview [1]: 23 direct and 57 indirect dependencies on > >>> haskell-src-exts-1.8.0 > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Henk-Jan van Tuyl > >> > >> And how many of those used haskell-src-exts *before* the SoC project? > >> And would have used it regardless? You can't point to a popular > >> project which got a SoC student, and say look at how popular it is - > >> obviously the SoC student was hugely successful. > > > > Regardless of that, is there any reason to disregard Neil's summary and > not update your page? > > > > Ganesh > > I prefer to wait. haskell-src-exts was popular before, it was popular > after. The question is not whether the patches were applied, or > whether the mentor told Google it was successful, but whether it was > the best possible use of the SoC slot. If features do not get used, > then it wasn't a good SoC. If you know 3 or 4 uses of the new > haskell-src-exts features in (relatively) major applications like > hlint, then I'll concede the point and mark it a success. > > -- > gwern > ___ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Sittampalam, Ganesh wrote: > Gwern Branwen wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Henk-Jan van Tuyl >> wrote: >>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:34:34 +0100, Neil Mitchell >>> >>> wrote: >>> Hi Gwern, Please update: "haskell-src-exts -> haskell-src" **Unknown** This project was an unqualified success. haskell-src-exts is now one of the most commonly used Haskell libraries, achieved the goals in the project proposal, and is an essential piece of Haskell infrastructure. >>> >>> You can see this using Roel van Dijk's reversed dependencies >>> overview [1]: 23 direct and 57 indirect dependencies on >>> haskell-src-exts-1.8.0 >>> >>> Regards, >>> Henk-Jan van Tuyl >> >> And how many of those used haskell-src-exts *before* the SoC project? >> And would have used it regardless? You can't point to a popular >> project which got a SoC student, and say look at how popular it is - >> obviously the SoC student was hugely successful. > > Regardless of that, is there any reason to disregard Neil's summary and not > update your page? > > Ganesh I prefer to wait. haskell-src-exts was popular before, it was popular after. The question is not whether the patches were applied, or whether the mentor told Google it was successful, but whether it was the best possible use of the SoC slot. If features do not get used, then it wasn't a good SoC. If you know 3 or 4 uses of the new haskell-src-exts features in (relatively) major applications like hlint, then I'll concede the point and mark it a success. -- gwern ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
RE: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
Gwern Branwen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Henk-Jan van Tuyl > wrote: >> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:34:34 +0100, Neil Mitchell >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Gwern, >>> >>> Please update: "haskell-src-exts -> haskell-src" **Unknown** >>> >>> This project was an unqualified success. haskell-src-exts is now >>> one >>> of the most commonly used Haskell libraries, achieved the goals in >>> the project proposal, and is an essential piece of Haskell >>> infrastructure. >> >> You can see this using Roel van Dijk's reversed dependencies >> overview [1]: 23 direct and 57 indirect dependencies on >> haskell-src-exts-1.8.0 >> >> Regards, >> Henk-Jan van Tuyl > > And how many of those used haskell-src-exts *before* the SoC project? > And would have used it regardless? You can't point to a popular > project which got a SoC student, and say look at how popular it is - > obviously the SoC student was hugely successful. Regardless of that, is there any reason to disregard Neil's summary and not update your page? Ganesh === Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.credit-suisse.com/legal/en/disclaimer_email_ib.html === ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Henk-Jan van Tuyl wrote: > On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:34:34 +0100, Neil Mitchell > wrote: > >> Hi Gwern, >> >> Please update: "haskell-src-exts -> haskell-src" **Unknown** >> >> This project was an unqualified success. haskell-src-exts is now one >> of the most commonly used Haskell libraries, achieved the goals in the >> project proposal, and is an essential piece of Haskell infrastructure. > > You can see this using Roel van Dijk's reversed dependencies overview [1]: > 23 direct and 57 indirect dependencies on haskell-src-exts-1.8.0 > > Regards, > Henk-Jan van Tuyl And how many of those used haskell-src-exts *before* the SoC project? And would have used it regardless? You can't point to a popular project which got a SoC student, and say look at how popular it is - obviously the SoC student was hugely successful. -- gwern ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
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On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:34:34 +0100, Neil Mitchell wrote: Hi Gwern, Please update: "haskell-src-exts -> haskell-src" **Unknown** This project was an unqualified success. haskell-src-exts is now one of the most commonly used Haskell libraries, achieved the goals in the project proposal, and is an essential piece of Haskell infrastructure. You can see this using Roel van Dijk's reversed dependencies overview [1]: 23 direct and 57 indirect dependencies on haskell-src-exts-1.8.0 Regards, Henk-Jan van Tuyl [1] http://bifunctor.homelinux.net/~roel/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/haskell-src-exts -- http://Van.Tuyl.eu/ http://members.chello.nl/hjgtuyl/tourdemonad.html -- ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
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Hi Gwern, Please update: "haskell-src-exts -> haskell-src" **Unknown** This project was an unqualified success. haskell-src-exts is now one of the most commonly used Haskell libraries, achieved the goals in the project proposal, and is an essential piece of Haskell infrastructure. I couldn't be more pleased with how this project turned out. Thanks, Neil ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
2010/1/31 Malcolm Wallace : > Both of these roles are called "mentor" in the Google system. Putting > together a good team of mentors before applying as an organisation is > helpful towards us being accepted into the programme. Having experienced being a student on the SoC program, I'd be happy to try my hand at reviewing applications and supervising projects (in particular, compiler-related ones). Cheers, Max ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Johan Tibell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Neil Mitchell wrote: >> >> I'd also be happy to mentor. Where is the official place to collect >> project ideas? We used trac previously, are we still using it or are >> we now on Reddit? > > Is there a way to prune the reddit list? Some of the projects (like 'text') > are already done. Also, voting doesn't work well for reddit as we're still > seeing votes from last year. > -- Johan You can prune them personally with 'hide', and I suppose the subreddit moderator can delete expired entries. -- gwern ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Neil Mitchell wrote: > I'd also be happy to mentor. Where is the official place to collect > project ideas? We used trac previously, are we still using it or are > we now on Reddit? Is there a way to prune the reddit list? Some of the projects (like 'text') are already done. Also, voting doesn't work well for reddit as we're still seeing votes from last year. -- Johan ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
I'd also be happy to mentor. Where is the official place to collect project ideas? We used trac previously, are we still using it or are we now on Reddit? Thanks, Neil 2010/2/1 sterl : > Malcolm Wallace wrote: >> >> Google has announced that the Summer of Code programme will be running again >> this year. If haskell.org people would like to take part again this year, >> then we need volunteers: > > I'd be happy to mentor again as well. It's important to bear in mind that the > total number of mentors plays a small role in slot allocation, but far more > important is to maximize the amount of high-quality applications -- the more > students we encourage to submit proposals, the more proposals we will be able > to fund: > http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentallocations > > Cheers, > Sterl. > ___ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
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Malcolm Wallace wrote: Google has announced that the Summer of Code programme will be running again this year. If haskell.org people would like to take part again this year, then we need volunteers: I'd be happy to mentor again as well. It's important to bear in mind that the total number of mentors plays a small role in slot allocation, but far more important is to maximize the amount of high-quality applications -- the more students we encourage to submit proposals, the more proposals we will be able to fund: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/studentallocations Cheers, Sterl. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
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I'd be willing to mentor again. I think it's really important that we think hard about coming up with projects which improve the core Haskell tool chain this year. Cheers, Johan ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
I would happily participate as a mentor again and I am willing to step up as administrator if you want to get it off your plate. -Edward Kmett On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Malcolm Wallace < malcolm.wall...@cs.york.ac.uk> wrote: > Google has announced that the Summer of Code programme will be running > again this year. If haskell.org people would like to take part again this > year, then we need volunteers: > > First, >* suggestions for suitable projects > (in the past this was organised using a reddit) >* an administrator to co-ordinate the application to Google > (I have done it for the last three years but am very willing > to hand on to someone else) > > Google will accept applications from organisations in the period 8th - 12th > March 2010, approx 1900UTC. > > If haskell.org is accepted again, students can apply between 29th March - > 9th April. > More volunteers will be required: > >* to review student applications and choose which to accept >* to supervise the accepted students > > Both of these roles are called "mentor" in the Google system. Putting > together a good team of mentors before applying as an organisation is > helpful towards us being accepted into the programme. > > Regards, >Malcolm > > > ___ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org > http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
malcolm.wallace: > Google has announced that the Summer of Code programme will be running > again this year. If haskell.org people would like to take part again > this year, then we need volunteers: > > First, > * suggestions for suitable projects > (in the past this was organised using a reddit) > * an administrator to co-ordinate the application to Google > (I have done it for the last three years but am very willing >to hand on to someone else) > > Google will accept applications from organisations in the period 8th - > 12th March 2010, approx 1900UTC. Here are the top rated Haskell project ideas from reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell_proposals/top/?t=all Cafe'ers : Please add more! Vote! Comment! -- Don ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] Anyone up for Google SoC 2010?
Google has announced that the Summer of Code programme will be running again this year. If haskell.org people would like to take part again this year, then we need volunteers: First, * suggestions for suitable projects (in the past this was organised using a reddit) * an administrator to co-ordinate the application to Google (I have done it for the last three years but am very willing to hand on to someone else) Google will accept applications from organisations in the period 8th - 12th March 2010, approx 1900UTC. If haskell.org is accepted again, students can apply between 29th March - 9th April. More volunteers will be required: * to review student applications and choose which to accept * to supervise the accepted students Both of these roles are called "mentor" in the Google system. Putting together a good team of mentors before applying as an organisation is helpful towards us being accepted into the programme. Regards, Malcolm ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
