Re: [Haskell-cafe] Yi editor tutorial

2008-01-16 Thread gwern0
On 2008.01.15 22:54:08 -0800, Benjamin L. Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Your Yi editor tutorial looks like a fascinating idea,
 but I use Mac OS X (10.2.8 Jaguar, soon to be upgraded
 to 10.5.x Leopard) at home, and Windows XP at work,
 while your tutorial is based on Ubuntu and the bash
 shell.

 A few questions:

 1) Do you have any versions of your Yi tutorial for
 Mac OS X or Windows XP; if not, are there any plans
 for such tutorials in the future?

I suspect you would have a hard time running on Windows XP: the cabal file 
currently declares a dependency on 'unix' because the VTY interface needs it, 
and also because the Dired module needs System.Posix.Users (to look up file 
owners). So at the very least you'd need to edit those out.

 2) On your tutorial top page
 (http://nobugs.org/developer/yi/), you mentioned that
 you had first learned Haskell in 2001 from _The
 Haskell School of Expression_ by Paul Hudak.  I also
 tried studying that book, and found it very
 interesting (especially with its focus on multimedia
 examples), but unfortunately got stuck on an exercise
 in Chapter 2 that required trigonometry, which I had
 forgotten from lack of use and didn't have time to
 review.  Also, I wanted to study it online, and had
 purchased the book (and thus paid the licensing fee),
 but was unable to find an online version.  Do you have
 any suggestions for online books with the same flavor
 that require less domain-specific knowledge;
 alternatively, do you have any suggestions for online
 material that precisely covers the domain-specific
 knowledge assumed by that book?

 Benjamin L. Russell

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Yi editor tutorial

2008-01-16 Thread Jules Bean

First of all, Andrew: Thanks! That was really interesting.


Benjamin L. Russell wrote:

Your Yi editor tutorial looks like a fascinating idea,
but I use Mac OS X (10.2.8 Jaguar, soon to be upgraded
to 10.5.x Leopard) at home, and Windows XP at work,
while your tutorial is based on Ubuntu and the bash
shell.

A few questions:

1) Do you have any versions of your Yi tutorial for
Mac OS X or Windows XP; if not, are there any plans
for such tutorials in the future?



Didn't look to me very ubuntu specific. I bet it would work out very 
similarly on OS X.


WinXP is something else, as gwern observed

J

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Yi editor tutorial

2008-01-15 Thread Benjamin L. Russell
Your Yi editor tutorial looks like a fascinating idea,
but I use Mac OS X (10.2.8 Jaguar, soon to be upgraded
to 10.5.x Leopard) at home, and Windows XP at work,
while your tutorial is based on Ubuntu and the bash
shell.

A few questions:

1) Do you have any versions of your Yi tutorial for
Mac OS X or Windows XP; if not, are there any plans
for such tutorials in the future?

2) On your tutorial top page
(http://nobugs.org/developer/yi/), you mentioned that
you had first learned Haskell in 2001 from _The
Haskell School of Expression_ by Paul Hudak.  I also
tried studying that book, and found it very
interesting (especially with its focus on multimedia
examples), but unfortunately got stuck on an exercise
in Chapter 2 that required trigonometry, which I had
forgotten from lack of use and didn't have time to
review.  Also, I wanted to study it online, and had
purchased the book (and thus paid the licensing fee),
but was unable to find an online version.  Do you have
any suggestions for online books with the same flavor
that require less domain-specific knowledge;
alternatively, do you have any suggestions for online
material that precisely covers the domain-specific
knowledge assumed by that book?

Benjamin L. Russell

--- Andrew Birkett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've recently started using Yi, the haskell editor. 
 I found it slightly 
 non-trivial to get started, so I've written up my
 installation method 
 and a beginners guide tutorial which I hope will
 be of interest to 
 other people who'd like to try Yi.  It lives at:
 
 http://nobugs.org/developer/yi/
 
 Let me know if it's useful or if you have
 suggestions (to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 Andrew
 --
 - http://www.nobugs.org -
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Yi editor tutorial

2008-01-14 Thread gwern0
On 2008.01.14 13:34:42 +, Andrew Birkett [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled 0.8K 
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 I'm going through them now, and I like them a lot. (Maybe I'll finally
 begin doing stuff with Yi!)
 Is there any particular reason you didn't put your tutorials on the
 Haskell wiki? I'd think they'd be good there.

 Cool, thanks.  :-)

 I agree it'll be a good idea to move it to the wiki, and I'll do that soon.
  On my own site, I can make lots of little changes locally and then
 atomically (well, quickly at least!) rsync the new version up onto the
 server.  It makes life easier when I'm likely to change around the top
 level structure.  The wiki makes a lot of sense though, because it's
 central and other people can extend the tutorial and fix bugs.

I'd say editing a wiki is even easier. :) But if you want to wait until you've 
gotten it to a state where you're happy with it, that's good too.

 It's also nice to be able to check the server logs and gauge interest too
 (about 5000 hits since yesterday).

 Andrew

True, but the interest won't last forever; so maybe after the Reddit links go 
quiescent?

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[Haskell-cafe] Yi editor tutorial

2008-01-13 Thread Andrew Birkett

Hi,

I've recently started using Yi, the haskell editor.  I found it slightly 
non-trivial to get started, so I've written up my installation method 
and a beginners guide tutorial which I hope will be of interest to 
other people who'd like to try Yi.  It lives at:


http://nobugs.org/developer/yi/

Let me know if it's useful or if you have suggestions (to [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Andrew
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- http://www.nobugs.org -
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