Re: [hibernate-dev] Async JDBC proposal

2018-03-22 Thread Emmanuel Bernard 
Slides 8 explicitly says that it is not built on JDBC, is not a replacement but 
will live alongside.

> On 20 Mar 2018, at 22:17, Mark Rotteveel  wrote:
> 
> The slides shown are from last year. Somehow that blog still promotes 
> that ADBA is somehow a replacement of JDBC, instead of a separate API 
> that will exist next to JDBC.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 2018-03-20 21:23, Gunnar Morling wrote:
>> I don't know whether that's the resource Emmanuel meant to link to,
>> but it's the most recent presentation on the topic I'm aware of:
>> 
>> 
>> https://blogs.oracle.com/java/jdbc-next%3a-a-new-asynchronous-api-for-connecting-to-a-database
>> 
>> --Gunnar
>> 
>> 2018-03-20 19:09 GMT+01:00 Mark Rotteveel :
>> 
>>> Minor nitpick, the proposed asynchronous database API (ADBA) is not
>>> part
>>> of JDBC, nor does it rely on or use JDBC (or at least
>>> implementations
>>> doing that wouldn't be truely async).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> PS Could you send the actual link?
>>> 
>>> On 2018-03-20 12:01, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
 Nothing really new for people at the edge of news but a nice
 presentation showing how async JDBC will likely work
 
>>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jH0znbYwgvGKHC-110zcjRaXLllBsvRKw-pdHrMzRzw
>>> [1]
 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Links:
>> --
>> [1]
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jH0znbYwgvGKHC-110zcjRaXLllBsvRKw-pdHrMzRzw
>>  
>> 
>> [2] https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev 
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Async JDBC proposal

2018-03-22 Thread Emmanuel Bernard 
Yep correct link, sorry about that :/
https://blogs.oracle.com/java/jdbc-next%3a-a-new-asynchronous-api-for-connecting-to-a-database
 



> On 20 Mar 2018, at 12:13, Radim Vansa  wrote:
> 
> Emmanuel, is this a correct link? That one is ORM 5.1 vs. 5.3 binary 
> compatibility analysis...
> 
> I have seen [1] posted earlier today on; is this what you have in mind?
> 
> I am very happy that JDBC will have an async variant; we have some plans 
> for asynchronous persistence in Infinispan so this might would be 
> definitely useful to our JDBC stores. I only wish there'd be an async 
> thread-independent JTA next, too.
> 
> Radim
> 
> [1] 
> https://blogs.oracle.com/java/jdbc-next%3a-a-new-asynchronous-api-for-connecting-to-a-database
> 
> On 03/20/2018 12:01 PM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
>> Nothing really new for people at the edge of news but a nice
>> presentation showing how async JDBC will likely work
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jH0znbYwgvGKHC-110zcjRaXLllBsvRKw-pdHrMzRzw
>> 
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Async JDBC proposal

2018-03-20 Thread Mark Rotteveel 
The slides shown are from last year. Somehow that blog still promotes 
that ADBA is somehow a replacement of JDBC, instead of a separate API 
that will exist next to JDBC.

Mark

On 2018-03-20 21:23, Gunnar Morling wrote:
> I don't know whether that's the resource Emmanuel meant to link to,
> but it's the most recent presentation on the topic I'm aware of:
> 
> 
> https://blogs.oracle.com/java/jdbc-next%3a-a-new-asynchronous-api-for-connecting-to-a-database
> 
> --Gunnar
> 
> 2018-03-20 19:09 GMT+01:00 Mark Rotteveel :
> 
>> Minor nitpick, the proposed asynchronous database API (ADBA) is not
>> part
>> of JDBC, nor does it rely on or use JDBC (or at least
>> implementations
>> doing that wouldn't be truely async).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> PS Could you send the actual link?
>> 
>> On 2018-03-20 12:01, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
>>> Nothing really new for people at the edge of news but a nice
>>> presentation showing how async JDBC will likely work
>>> 
>> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jH0znbYwgvGKHC-110zcjRaXLllBsvRKw-pdHrMzRzw
>> [1]
>>> 
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> 
> 
> Links:
> --
> [1]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jH0znbYwgvGKHC-110zcjRaXLllBsvRKw-pdHrMzRzw
> [2] https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Async JDBC proposal

2018-03-20 Thread Gunnar Morling 
I don't know whether that's the resource Emmanuel meant to link to, but
it's the most recent presentation on the topic I'm aware of:


https://blogs.oracle.com/java/jdbc-next%3a-a-new-asynchronous-api-for-connecting-to-a-database

--Gunnar




2018-03-20 19:09 GMT+01:00 Mark Rotteveel :

> Minor nitpick, the proposed asynchronous database API (ADBA) is not part
> of JDBC, nor does it rely on or use JDBC (or at least implementations
> doing that wouldn't be truely async).
>
> Mark
>
> PS Could you send the actual link?
>
> On 2018-03-20 12:01, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
> > Nothing really new for people at the edge of news but a nice
> > presentation showing how async JDBC will likely work
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jH0znbYwgvGKHC-
> 110zcjRaXLllBsvRKw-pdHrMzRzw
> >
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Async JDBC proposal

2018-03-20 Thread Mark Rotteveel 
Minor nitpick, the proposed asynchronous database API (ADBA) is not part 
of JDBC, nor does it rely on or use JDBC (or at least implementations 
doing that wouldn't be truely async).

Mark

PS Could you send the actual link?

On 2018-03-20 12:01, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
> Nothing really new for people at the edge of news but a nice
> presentation showing how async JDBC will likely work
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jH0znbYwgvGKHC-110zcjRaXLllBsvRKw-pdHrMzRzw
> 
> Emmanuel
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Re: [hibernate-dev] Async JDBC proposal

2018-03-20 Thread Radim Vansa 
Emmanuel, is this a correct link? That one is ORM 5.1 vs. 5.3 binary 
compatibility analysis...

I have seen [1] posted earlier today on; is this what you have in mind?

I am very happy that JDBC will have an async variant; we have some plans 
for asynchronous persistence in Infinispan so this might would be 
definitely useful to our JDBC stores. I only wish there'd be an async 
thread-independent JTA next, too.

Radim

[1] 
https://blogs.oracle.com/java/jdbc-next%3a-a-new-asynchronous-api-for-connecting-to-a-database

On 03/20/2018 12:01 PM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:
> Nothing really new for people at the edge of news but a nice
> presentation showing how async JDBC will likely work
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jH0znbYwgvGKHC-110zcjRaXLllBsvRKw-pdHrMzRzw
>
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[hibernate-dev] Async JDBC proposal

2018-03-20 Thread Emmanuel Bernard 
Nothing really new for people at the edge of news but a nice
presentation showing how async JDBC will likely work
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jH0znbYwgvGKHC-110zcjRaXLllBsvRKw-pdHrMzRzw

Emmanuel
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