Re: H-Net* Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election

2001-01-10 Terurut Topik Azmi



Belum lagi kot... sebab dia kena ensure that bila dia 
bersara nanti takde org yg go after him & his family over those fortune that 
they made.
Sebab tu lah the next PM must be org dia atau ikut 
telunjuk dia jugak sebab kalau takterok lah dia & kroni2 dia kena 
tangkap nanti!!
Ingat Samy Vellu, Ling Liong Sik, Daim Zainuddin dll tu 
boleh tidur nyenyak ke bila org tua tu bersara nanti??? 
 
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  I think he meant it this time. Apa lagi nak, duit dah banyak, 
  istana dah siap. Dulu dia tak jadi quit sebab istana dia belum siap 
  lagi.
   
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Re: H-Net* Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election

2001-01-10 Terurut Topik Masih Cun
I think he meant it this time. Apa lagi nak, duit dah banyak, istana dah siap. Dulu dia tak jadi quit sebab istana dia belum siap lagi.
  
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hat all the time tapi habuk pun tarak> > > > Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election> > > > KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 28 (AFP) - 12:45 - Malaysia's> > veteran Prime Minister> > Mahathir Mohamad has again said he will step down> > before the next> > general> > election due by November 2004, Bernama news agency> > reported Thursday.> > > > Mahathir, who has been in power since 1981, was> > vague about the timing> > but> > added: "The succession is determined."> > > > His current preferred successor is his deputy> > premier, Abdullah Ahmad> > Badawi.> > > > Mahathir, in an interview with the official agency> > Tuesday, was asked if> > he> > was committed to handing over the premiership just> > before the next>!
 > election.> > > > "Whether just before or long before, it will depend> > on our assessment,"> > he> > said.> > > > Soon after the last election in November 1999,> > Mahathir said this would> > be> > his last term in office. He turned 75 on December> > 20.> > > > Elections must be held every five years but can be> > held at any time> > before> > the term expires.> > > > "The reason why I keep people guessing is that any> > hint I make about my> > stepping down or whatever, it will have an effect on> > the economy and the> > > > market," he said.> > > > "And I don't want my personal choice to have an> > effect on the market."> > > > Asked by Bernama if he were irreplace!
able, Mahathir> > said: "No, I don't> > think so (because) each prime minister is different> > from the other, his> > way> > of working, his style and his delivery."> > > > He said his National Front coalition and its largest> > party, the United> > Malays National Organisation (UMNO), would continue> > the same policies,> > "perhaps with some slight improvements here and> > there but basically they> > > > will be the same policies."> > > > Mahathir's sacking in September 1998 of his popular> > deputy Anwar> > Ibrahim,> > and Anwar's subsequent jailing for abuse of power> > and sodomy, alienated> > many of UMNO's traditional voters in the Malay> > community.> > > > The party lost 22 seats in the last election.> >!
; > > Mahathir added: "I really feel that whether we like> > it or not, one day I> > > > have to go. If I drop dead, I won't be around.> > Somebody has to take over> > > > and we have prepared our party for that eventuality.> > > > "If I go, there are people who will take over from> > me. The succession is> > >

Re: H-Net* Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election

2000-12-31 Terurut Topik Zainol Zainuddin


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Wa'alaikumsalam and salam kembali,
Sdr Fakhrull, have been following your posting for quite some time..., 
sometimes it's a bit too blur on what you want to achieve...

but economically, your statement below makes no sense whatsoever.. Pls gimme 
more detail.. I am not questioning the rational of the government takeover, 
but the "how" it's being taken over.

for eg, MAS shares, TR and his directors where laughing aloud after signing 
the sales of the shares, (don't ask me how I know, you can check your own 
source on this)(after losing control of a company, usually a businessman 
would not be too happy)... Anyway, who are still making money from MAS? 
Cargo, Catering, and later the IT outsource(Trifinity) will exclusively be 
owned by the same guy..

I can probably go on with the largest IPO plan for TIMEdotCom, and who will 
be bailing them out when their shares are undersubsribe.. butmaybe later.. 
Think Fakhrul, when Petronas increases their oil production , the oil 
reserves will not be there for our children to enjoy. OK till later

Wassalam


>From: fakhrull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Assalamualaikum..
>Kalau ekonomi kita terus lingkup lagi merbahaya pada generasi dan mungkin
>generasi akan datang bukan takat tiada ekonomi malah Negara nya sendiri
>telan mati mak luah mati bapak adalah delima yang terpaksa juga seorang
>pemimpin
>tempuhi dengan fikiran tajam dan amat halus..Kalau generasi dulu 
>menggadai
>nyawa untuk negara apasalahnya kita pinjamkan KWSP dan mereka kan bayar 
>balik
>nanti bila semuanya ok semula...demi untuk tanah airUntuk mejanakan 
>balik
>ekonomi yang tenat dana yang terhad terpaksalah di agih pada syarikat 
>gergasi
>yang mana bila gergasi ini stabil keuntungannya pula diagih ke syarikat
>sederhana dan kecil..dalam keadaan untuk menyelamat ekonomi negara kerajaan
>perlu mengenal pasti S Gergasi yang mampu manfaatkan dana yang amat terhad
>tidak menjadi sia sia
>jesteru itu kedapatan lah peruntukan itu nampak diagihkan pada yang 
>dikatakan
>Kroni..kroninya sahaja...Jalan yang telus bukan mudah hendak 
>dilaksanakan
>kadang kadang diluar dugaan kitaUntk menyelamat ekonomi negara yang
>diserang bukan mudah tak terfikir oleh kita sebenarnya...APASALAHnya kita 
>bantu
>dengan apa yang terdayaBila ekonomi kita lingkup yang ketara menjadi 
>mangsa
>ialah bangsa melayu yang amat miskin..bayangkanlah kebimbangan kerajaan 
>untuk
>menanganinya dengan cara yang amat telusDan ingat Kerajaan bukan Tuhan
>mereka juga mumbuat kesilapan yang mereka sendiri tidak mahu untuk
>itu...bersabar dan berdoalahWassalam...
>
>Tiang Jawi wrote:
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> > Assalamualaikum w.w.
> >
> > Barulah terserlah mengapa proses penebusan semula syarikat-syarikat 
>besar
> > yang di ambang muflis dilakukan dengan meluas.  Senaraikan sahaja 
>bermula
> > dari: Renong dan keluarga; MAS; DRB-Hicom (Proton, LRT, STAR, Intra kota
> > dll); Indah Water dll.  Setelah Petronas, Tabung Amanah Pencen(?), KWSP,
> > Tabung Amanah Angkatan Tentera habislah dana yang boleh diusik.  LUTH 
>juga
> > cuba diusik.  Tapi dikhuatiri penyimpan bertindakbalas dengan 
>mengeluarkan
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Re: H-Net* Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election

2000-12-31 Terurut Topik fakhrull


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Assalamualaikum..
Kalau ekonomi kita terus lingkup lagi merbahaya pada generasi dan mungkin
generasi akan datang bukan takat tiada ekonomi malah Negara nya sendiri
telan mati mak luah mati bapak adalah delima yang terpaksa juga seorang
pemimpin
tempuhi dengan fikiran tajam dan amat halus..Kalau generasi dulu menggadai
nyawa untuk negara apasalahnya kita pinjamkan KWSP dan mereka kan bayar balik
nanti bila semuanya ok semula...demi untuk tanah airUntuk mejanakan balik
ekonomi yang tenat dana yang terhad terpaksalah di agih pada syarikat gergasi
yang mana bila gergasi ini stabil keuntungannya pula diagih ke syarikat
sederhana dan kecil..dalam keadaan untuk menyelamat ekonomi negara kerajaan
perlu mengenal pasti S Gergasi yang mampu manfaatkan dana yang amat terhad
tidak menjadi sia sia
jesteru itu kedapatan lah peruntukan itu nampak diagihkan pada yang dikatakan
Kroni..kroninya sahaja...Jalan yang telus bukan mudah hendak dilaksanakan
kadang kadang diluar dugaan kitaUntk menyelamat ekonomi negara yang
diserang bukan mudah tak terfikir oleh kita sebenarnya...APASALAHnya kita bantu
dengan apa yang terdayaBila ekonomi kita lingkup yang ketara menjadi mangsa
ialah bangsa melayu yang amat miskin..bayangkanlah kebimbangan kerajaan untuk
menanganinya dengan cara yang amat telusDan ingat Kerajaan bukan Tuhan
mereka juga mumbuat kesilapan yang mereka sendiri tidak mahu untuk
itu...bersabar dan berdoalahWassalam...

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> Assalamualaikum w.w.
>
> Barulah terserlah mengapa proses penebusan semula syarikat-syarikat besar
> yang di ambang muflis dilakukan dengan meluas.  Senaraikan sahaja bermula
> dari: Renong dan keluarga; MAS; DRB-Hicom (Proton, LRT, STAR, Intra kota
> dll); Indah Water dll.  Setelah Petronas, Tabung Amanah Pencen(?), KWSP,
> Tabung Amanah Angkatan Tentera habislah dana yang boleh diusik.  LUTH juga
> cuba diusik.  Tapi dikhuatiri penyimpan bertindakbalas dengan mengeluarkan
> simpanan, tindakan ini dibekukan seketika.  Akhirnya untuk mendapatkan wang
> jual lah bon.  Bon ini tak lebih dari hutang.  Bezanya boleh diperolehi
> sedikit sedikit dari berbagai sumber.  Yang nyanya generasi kan datanglah
> yang membayarnya.
>
> Nilainya, campurkan sahaja.  Untuk MAS dan Sistem pengangkutan KL sahaja
> masing-masing RM 1.7 + 2.1 bilion.
>
> Beginilah negara ku Malaysia tercinta.
>
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> Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election
>
> KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 28 (AFP) - 12:45 - Malaysia's veteran Prime Minister
> Mahathir Mohamad has again said he will step down before the next
> general
> election due by November 2004, Bernama news agency reported Thursday.
>
> Mahathir, who has been in power since 1981, was vague about the timing
> but
> added: "The succession is determined."
>
> His current preferred successor is his deputy premier, Abdullah Ahmad
> Badawi.
>
> Mahathir, in an interview with the official agency Tuesday, was asked if
> he
> was committed to handing over the premiership just before the next
> election.
>
> "Whether just before or long be

Re: H-Net* Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election

2000-12-29 Terurut Topik Ahmad Chukari


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assalamu'alaikum

luka lama berdarah kembali..

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Re: H-Net* Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election

2000-12-29 Terurut Topik Azmi


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ha ha. macam pernah dengar aje...

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> 
> he saaid that all the time tapi habuk pun tarak
> 
> 
> > Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election
> > 
> > KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 28 (AFP) - 12:45 - Malaysia's
> > veteran Prime Minister
> > Mahathir Mohamad has again said he will step down
> > before the next
> > general
> > election due by November 2004, Bernama news agency
> > reported Thursday.
> > 
> > Mahathir, who has been in power since 1981, was
> > vague about the timing
> > but
> > added: "The succession is determined."
> > 
> > His current preferred successor is his deputy
> > premier, Abdullah Ahmad
> > Badawi.
> > 
> > Mahathir, in an interview with the official agency
> > Tuesday, was asked if
> > he
> > was committed to handing over the premiership just
> > before the next
> > election.
> > 
> > "Whether just before or long before, it will depend
> > on our assessment,"
> > he
> > said.
> > 
> > Soon after the last election in November 1999,
> > Mahathir said this would
> > be
> > his last term in office. He turned 75 on December
> > 20.
> > 
> > Elections must be held every five years but can be
> > held at any time
> > before
> > the term expires.
> > 
> > "The reason why I keep people guessing is that any
> > hint I make about my
> > stepping down or whatever, it will have an effect on
> > the economy and the
> > 
> > market," he said.
> > 
> > "And I don't want my personal choice to have an
> > effect on the market."
> > 
> > Asked by Bernama if he were irreplaceable, Mahathir
> > said: "No, I don't
> > think so (because) each prime minister is different
> > from the other, his
> > way
> > of working, his style and his delivery."
> > 
> > He said his National Front coalition and its largest
> > party, the United
> > Malays National Organisation (UMNO), would continue
> > the same policies,
> > "perhaps with some slight improvements here and
> > there but basically they
> > 
> > will be the same policies."
> > 
> > Mahathir's sacking in September 1998 of his popular
> > deputy Anwar
> > Ibrahim,
> > and Anwar's subsequent jailing for abuse of power
> > and sodomy, alienated
> > many of UMNO's traditional voters in the Malay
> > community.
> > 
> > The party lost 22 seats in the last election.
> > 
> > Mahathir added: "I really feel that whether we like
> > it or not, one day I
> > 
> > have to go. If I drop dead, I won't be around.
> > Somebody has to take over
> > 
> > and we have prepared our party for that eventuality.
> > 
> > "

Re: H-Net* Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election

2000-12-28 Terurut Topik Azrin Kasman


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he saaid that all the time tapi habuk pun tarak


> Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election
> 
> KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 28 (AFP) - 12:45 - Malaysia's
> veteran Prime Minister
> Mahathir Mohamad has again said he will step down
> before the next
> general
> election due by November 2004, Bernama news agency
> reported Thursday.
> 
> Mahathir, who has been in power since 1981, was
> vague about the timing
> but
> added: "The succession is determined."
> 
> His current preferred successor is his deputy
> premier, Abdullah Ahmad
> Badawi.
> 
> Mahathir, in an interview with the official agency
> Tuesday, was asked if
> he
> was committed to handing over the premiership just
> before the next
> election.
> 
> "Whether just before or long before, it will depend
> on our assessment,"
> he
> said.
> 
> Soon after the last election in November 1999,
> Mahathir said this would
> be
> his last term in office. He turned 75 on December
> 20.
> 
> Elections must be held every five years but can be
> held at any time
> before
> the term expires.
> 
> "The reason why I keep people guessing is that any
> hint I make about my
> stepping down or whatever, it will have an effect on
> the economy and the
> 
> market," he said.
> 
> "And I don't want my personal choice to have an
> effect on the market."
> 
> Asked by Bernama if he were irreplaceable, Mahathir
> said: "No, I don't
> think so (because) each prime minister is different
> from the other, his
> way
> of working, his style and his delivery."
> 
> He said his National Front coalition and its largest
> party, the United
> Malays National Organisation (UMNO), would continue
> the same policies,
> "perhaps with some slight improvements here and
> there but basically they
> 
> will be the same policies."
> 
> Mahathir's sacking in September 1998 of his popular
> deputy Anwar
> Ibrahim,
> and Anwar's subsequent jailing for abuse of power
> and sodomy, alienated
> many of UMNO's traditional voters in the Malay
> community.
> 
> The party lost 22 seats in the last election.
> 
> Mahathir added: "I really feel that whether we like
> it or not, one day I
> 
> have to go. If I drop dead, I won't be around.
> Somebody has to take over
> 
> and we have prepared our party for that eventuality.
> 
> "If I go, there are people who will take over from
> me. The succession is
> 
> determined."
> 
> Mahathir had a quadruple heart bypass operation in
> 1989 but appears to
> be
> fit and follows a punishing daily schedule.
> 
> He said he wanted to continue serving UMNO even
> after he retires.
> 
> "Maybe if they need to ask me any question about
> anything, I will be
> prepared to answer. If they want me to do some work
> ... perhaps I will
> do
> it if I can," he said.
> 
> Mahathir also denied opposition claims that he was a
> dictator, saying
> his
> cabinet debated his ideas and could choose whether
> to accept them.
> 
> __
> 
> http://www.bernama.com/bernama/general/ge2812_5.htm
> 
> December 28 , 2000 13:33PM
> 
> DR MAHATHIR TO CONTRIBUTE TO UMNO EVEN AFTER
> RETIREMENT
> By E.Sivabalan
> 
> KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 28 (Bernama) -- Datuk Seri Dr
> Mahathir Mohamad has
> pledged to continue serving Umno even after he
> retires as Prime Minister
> 
> through his ideas and knowledge gained during his
> years in service to
> the
> country and the party.
> "Even if I am not the Prime Minister, whatever
> knowledge that I have and
> 
> that I can contribute to the party, I will do so,"
> the Umno president
> said.
> 
> 
> Dr Mahathir said this when asked if he was committed
> to handing over the
> 
> Prime Minister's post to his successor just before
> the next general
> election.
> 
> "Whether just before or long before, it will depend
> on our assessment,"
> said.
> 
> Dr Mahathir was reported as saying just after the
> 1999 general election
> that this would be his last term in office. Dr
> Mahathir became Prime
> Minister in 1981, succeeding Tun Hussein Onn.
> 
> Speaking in an exclusive year-en