Re: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

[Kamran]

Whoa man... STOP BEING A JERK. I was giving him advice just like I was a
newbie not too long ago. I asked a lot of questions too, there wasn't a
trace of condescendence in my email... I was being nice.

It seems to me you are the one at fault here... I feel bad for the poor
guy who ALSO was trying to give you advice and then you reply with a
hotheaded moronic comment...

Anyways, I won't reply to anything else concerning this... not worth it.
Learn to respect and people will respect you... so far you deserve none.

Michael A. Hobson wrote:


Kamran,

It is not up to you or anyone of the other elitists to decide who can
or cannot post to this list nor what conditions they may post under.

This list belongs to and is run by *Valve Software* and is hosted on
their servers.

If someone with actual authority over this list demands that "newbs"
not post questions to it, that will be an entirely different story;
but, until then, all of you people trying to keep inexperienced mod
developers from using this list as a learning resource can go to hell.

Kamran said:



It's a good idea to read through the entire Valve Developer Community
wiki to get "in the know" and then try to experiment and solve problems
by yourself. It should be a last resort to ask here... who knows, you
may find a better way to accomplish a goal.

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Re: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

[Josh Matthews]

Here's a thread [1] from the Code::Blocks forums about importing the
Quake 3 project.  Looks like there's still problems, the best idea
would be to turn off code-completion (maybe the class browser too, if
it's like Dev-C++) before trying to import.  If Code::Blocks crashes,
it would be helpful to send the .rtp file which is generated to the
developers, as they're interested in allowing users to work with large
projects.

Josh

[1] http://forums.codeblocks.org/index.php/topic,769.0.html

On 8/27/05, Benjamin Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/
>
> On 8/28/05, Lachlan Gunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On a related note, is there a way to do command-line builds? Because
> > I haven't been able to find any information about this, so I'm still
> > left somewhat confused as to whether it's possible (I'm used to GCC on
> > *nix, so I though it was always possible, but MS appear to tie it to
> > the IDE).
> > On 8/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It's VS .NET or bust.
> > >
> > > And on another note:
> > > I appreciate the fact that you realize and freely admit to not knowing
> > > much, and I applaud your courage at bothering to ask these questions on
> > > hlcoders. But seriously; if you want help from the experienced people on
> > > this list, it would do well to show that you've done some basic research
> > on
> > > your own. We're all glad to help, but it does get annoying when it
> > becomes
> > > evident that someone's asking for a hand-holding.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > John Sheu
> > >
> > > Original Message:
> > > -
> > > From: Morten Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:19:01 +0200
> > > To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Subject: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!
> > >
> > > Hi sorry to be such a newbie!
> > >
> > > But is there other programs i can use to code in? Does The SDK only
> > > work with Microsoft Visual Studio .NET ?
> > >
> > > Because the Microsoft Visual Studio cost much Money... :(
> > >
> > > Are there any alternatives?
> > >
> > > 
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Re: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

[Josh Matthews]

Here's a thread [1] from the Code::Blocks forums about importing the
Quake 3 project.  Looks like there's still problems, the best idea
would be to turn off code-completion (maybe the class browser too, if
it's like Dev-C++) before trying to import.  If Code::Blocks crashes,
it would be helpful to send the .rtp file which is generated to the
developers, as they're interested in allowing users to work with large
projects.

Josh

[1] http://forums.codeblocks.org/index.php/topic,769.0.html

http://forums.codeblocks.org/index.php/topic,769.0.html

On 8/27/05, Benjamin Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/
>
> On 8/28/05, Lachlan Gunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On a related note, is there a way to do command-line builds? Because
> > I haven't been able to find any information about this, so I'm still
> > left somewhat confused as to whether it's possible (I'm used to GCC on
> > *nix, so I though it was always possible, but MS appear to tie it to
> > the IDE).
> > On 8/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It's VS .NET or bust.
> > >
> > > And on another note:
> > > I appreciate the fact that you realize and freely admit to not knowing
> > > much, and I applaud your courage at bothering to ask these questions on
> > > hlcoders. But seriously; if you want help from the experienced people on
> > > this list, it would do well to show that you've done some basic research
> > on
> > > your own. We're all glad to help, but it does get annoying when it
> > becomes
> > > evident that someone's asking for a hand-holding.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > John Sheu
> > >
> > > Original Message:
> > > -
> > > From: Morten Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:19:01 +0200
> > > To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Subject: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!
> > >
> > > Hi sorry to be such a newbie!
> > >
> > > But is there other programs i can use to code in? Does The SDK only
> > > work with Microsoft Visual Studio .NET ?
> > >
> > > Because the Microsoft Visual Studio cost much Money... :(
> > >
> > > Are there any alternatives?
> > >
> > > 
> > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at
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> > Lachlan
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Re: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

[Benjamin Davison]

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http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/

On 8/28/05, Lachlan Gunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On a related note, is there a way to do command-line builds? Because
> I haven't been able to find any information about this, so I'm still
> left somewhat confused as to whether it's possible (I'm used to GCC on
> *nix, so I though it was always possible, but MS appear to tie it to
> the IDE).
> On 8/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It's VS .NET or bust.
> >
> > And on another note:
> > I appreciate the fact that you realize and freely admit to not knowing
> > much, and I applaud your courage at bothering to ask these questions on
> > hlcoders. But seriously; if you want help from the experienced people on
> > this list, it would do well to show that you've done some basic research
> on
> > your own. We're all glad to help, but it does get annoying when it
> becomes
> > evident that someone's asking for a hand-holding.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > John Sheu
> >
> > Original Message:
> > -----
> > From: Morten Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:19:01 +0200
> > To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!
> >
> > Hi sorry to be such a newbie!
> >
> > But is there other programs i can use to code in? Does The SDK only
> > work with Microsoft Visual Studio .NET ?
> >
> > Because the Microsoft Visual Studio cost much Money... :(
> >
> > Are there any alternatives?
> >
> > 
> > mail2web - Check your email from the web at
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Re: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

[Josh Matthews]

I'm sorry if I'm miles off base here, but I don't have the HL2 SDK to
play with yet (5 more days until I get an internet connection and can
decrypt the game :))).

The CodeBlocks IDE is a wonderful new, free, SourceForge project
(http://codeblocks.sourceforge.net) which integrates with a variety of
different compilers seamlessly and transparently.  One of the built-in
compiler sets is the Microsoft Visual C++.NET 2003 (I believe, could
be a different year) toolkit (available for free from MSDN, it's all
the command-line tools for compiling that are used by the actual VC++
IDE).  CodeBlocks also can import VC++  projects and solutions (I
don't know how well it interprets compiling flags, though).  Anyways,
the point is that in theory you should be able to import and compile
HL2 in CodeBlocks, but I stress again that's it's theory only.  I'd
appreciate if someone could spend 30 minutes testing this for me, as
I'm keen to find out the answer.

Josh

On 8/27/05, Lachlan Gunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On a related note, is there a way to do command-line builds?  Because
> I haven't been able to find any information about this, so I'm still
> left somewhat confused as to whether it's possible (I'm used to GCC on
> *nix, so I though it was always possible, but MS appear to tie it to
> the IDE).
> On 8/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It's VS .NET or bust.
> >
> > And on another note:
> > I appreciate the fact that you realize and freely admit to not knowing
> > much, and I applaud your courage at bothering to ask these questions on
> > hlcoders.  But seriously; if you want help from the experienced people on
> > this list, it would do well to show that you've done some basic research on
> > your own.  We're all glad to help, but it does get annoying when it becomes
> > evident that someone's asking for a hand-holding.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > John Sheu
> >
> > Original Message:
> > -
> > From: Morten Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:19:01 +0200
> > To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!
> >
> > Hi sorry to be such a newbie!
> >
> > But is there other programs i can use to code in? Does The SDK only
> > work with Microsoft Visual Studio .NET ?
> >
> > Because the Microsoft Visual Studio cost much Money... :(
> >
> > Are there any alternatives?
> >
> > 
> > mail2web - Check your email from the web at
> > http://mail2web.com/ .
> >
> >
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Re: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

[Lachlan Gunn]

On a related note, is there a way to do command-line builds?  Because
I haven't been able to find any information about this, so I'm still
left somewhat confused as to whether it's possible (I'm used to GCC on
*nix, so I though it was always possible, but MS appear to tie it to
the IDE).
On 8/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's VS .NET or bust.
>
> And on another note:
> I appreciate the fact that you realize and freely admit to not knowing
> much, and I applaud your courage at bothering to ask these questions on
> hlcoders.  But seriously; if you want help from the experienced people on
> this list, it would do well to show that you've done some basic research on
> your own.  We're all glad to help, but it does get annoying when it becomes
> evident that someone's asking for a hand-holding.
>
> Best wishes,
> John Sheu
>
> Original Message:
> -
> From: Morten Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:19:01 +0200
> To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!
>
> Hi sorry to be such a newbie!
>
> But is there other programs i can use to code in? Does The SDK only
> work with Microsoft Visual Studio .NET ?
>
> Because the Microsoft Visual Studio cost much Money... :(
>
> Are there any alternatives?
>
> 
> mail2web - Check your email from the web at
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Re: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

[Benjamin Davison]

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Morten the best advice I can give you, is pick up a beginners book for C++
and then trudge through it.

I did the same, I got a book and started reading it and I tried to apply
practices I learnt from the book into the SDK, I believe that will be the
best way to learn.

On 8/27/05, Michael A. Hobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kamran,
>
> It is not up to you or anyone of the other elitists to decide who can
> or cannot post to this list nor what conditions they may post under.
>
> This list belongs to and is run by *Valve Software* and is hosted on
> their servers.
>
> If someone with actual authority over this list demands that "newbs"
> not post questions to it, that will be an entirely different story;
> but, until then, all of you people trying to keep inexperienced mod
> developers from using this list as a learning resource can go to hell.
>
> Kamran said:
> > It's a good idea to read through the entire Valve Developer Community
> > wiki to get "in the know" and then try to experiment and solve problems
> > by yourself. It should be a last resort to ask here... who knows, you
> > may find a better way to accomplish a goal.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >
>
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Re: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

[Michael A. Hobson]

Kamran,

It is not up to you or anyone of the other elitists to decide who can
or cannot post to this list nor what conditions they may post under.

This list belongs to and is run by *Valve Software* and is hosted on
their servers.

If someone with actual authority over this list demands that "newbs"
not post questions to it, that will be an entirely different story;
but, until then, all of you people trying to keep inexperienced mod
developers from using this list as a learning resource can go to hell.

Kamran said:
> It's a good idea to read through the entire Valve Developer Community
> wiki to get "in the know" and then try to experiment and solve problems
> by yourself. It should be a last resort to ask here... who knows, you
> may find a better way to accomplish a goal.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>

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Re: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

[Kamran]

It's a good idea to read through the entire Valve Developer Community
wiki to get "in the know" and then try to experiment and solve problems
by yourself. It should be a last resort to ask here... who knows, you
may find a better way to accomplish a goal.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It's VS .NET or bust.

And on another note:
I appreciate the fact that you realize and freely admit to not knowing
much, and I applaud your courage at bothering to ask these questions on
hlcoders.  But seriously; if you want help from the experienced people on
this list, it would do well to show that you've done some basic research on
your own.  We're all glad to help, but it does get annoying when it becomes
evident that someone's asking for a hand-holding.

Best wishes,
John Sheu

Original Message:
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From: Morten Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:19:01 +0200
To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

Hi sorry to be such a newbie!

But is there other programs i can use to code in? Does The SDK only
work with Microsoft Visual Studio .NET ?

Because the Microsoft Visual Studio cost much Money... :(

Are there any alternatives?


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RE: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

It's VS .NET or bust.

And on another note:
I appreciate the fact that you realize and freely admit to not knowing
much, and I applaud your courage at bothering to ask these questions on
hlcoders.  But seriously; if you want help from the experienced people on
this list, it would do well to show that you've done some basic research on
your own.  We're all glad to help, but it does get annoying when it becomes
evident that someone's asking for a hand-holding.

Best wishes,
John Sheu

Original Message:
-
From: Morten Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:19:01 +0200
To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

Hi sorry to be such a newbie!

But is there other programs i can use to code in? Does The SDK only
work with Microsoft Visual Studio .NET ?

Because the Microsoft Visual Studio cost much Money... :(

Are there any alternatives?


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[hlcoders] Another Newbie modding question!

[Morten Nielsen]

Hi sorry to be such a newbie!

But is there other programs i can use to code in? Does The SDK only
work with Microsoft Visual Studio .NET ?

Because the Microsoft Visual Studio cost much Money... :(

Are there any alternatives?


Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english!

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