Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly
PHL is a large site though, and there is already alot of
hl news, so I think they have to filter out the stuff which they think only a
few people will want to read
- Original Message -
From:
Nathan Taylor
To: HLCoders
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 4:36
AM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging
PHL Monopoly
rant PHL is very strange when it comes to new I think. I
sent them some pimpage about a mod called The Wind and they seem to just throw
away my email. I then sent them email about my site ModDev.net and once
again they threw away my email (multiple times) finally, I sent them [1]
letter about The Wind which had a screenshot and it was literally up in
minutes. They seem very particular about what they post it seems.
I mean if I mailed them and was announcing Counter-Strike 2 but had no
content, no images, nadda they would spiel for pages whereas I send them
something about Mod X and they throw out the email
instantanously./rant
Lakario
- Original Message -
From:
andrew
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:07
PM
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging
PHL Monopoly
I would have to agree with a little on the PHL subject,
since they seem totake over most of the MOD Coverage seen just because
they get backing fromgamespy. they really seem to be picky on what they
host and post about. Itreally pisses me off when some of the little
lesser know mods never getthere info posted on the site. About the FP
charging issue, i have apersonal server thing myself and i can say when
FP was in the shitterbecause of the whole file hosting thing and setup
this que it really screwedover downloading from therem. When the new HL
patch came out it was almost a2000min wait that is BS and i in most
cases do not like there system and ithink charging is lame and i agree
with those who see the same in that senceWacko- Original
Message -From: "Miguel Aleman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001
7:24 PMSubject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL
Monopoly See, I would be ok with Fileplanet letting people
pay extra for "Dedicated Servers" if they didn't fuck their public
ones. I never had a problembefore the que was setup, it was just
alittle slow. Now its REALLY slow if youtake into account 15
min+ wait times. Also, if you haven't noticed, they haveads
which you cannot close in the wait window. $$$ Also, is it
just me, or does PlanetHL screw some mods and make other ones? It
seems they have a fetish with some mediocre mods and leave some
goodones out. - Original Message
- From: "omega" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29,
2001 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP
charging if you read what i said, i did say
that some do. -omega Blackened
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irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant
Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) -
Original Message - From: "Neale Roberts"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday,
December 29, 2001 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP
charging Actually, the GSI staff
*do* get paid, as do some of the Planet*.com
webmasters. - Original Message
- From: "omega"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,
December 28, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP
chargingive been
away for most of the day so i didnt get back in on thisstuff
tillnow.
but anyway, thats basically what im saying. the services now
are almostexactly the same as they were
before, 9x out of 10 theres one free mirror,
and 2 personal servers on stuff that used to have 3 mirrors.
so again, i re-iterate. i will not pay
to download the free things. alsophantom, as
you said al ittle while ago. gsi staff dosent get paid.
neitherdoes phl or any of the other planet
workers.well, jeh and LI might. cuz i know back when
hl.net went down they offeredshirow a
buncha money to work for them, even tho he declined.
-omegaBlackened
Interactivehttp://www.nofadz.com/blackened
IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive
Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com)
- Original Message -
From: "Andrew Foss" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:35 PMSubject: Re:
[hlcoders] FP charging
Has anyone ever tired to get the Counter-Strike patch on
it's release? The same
Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly
I spose but they still have a tendancy to eat other people up. Personally, I don't give jack if PHL starts hosting a new mapper but they seem to think everrone will so they put a huge blurb that proceeds any other news for that day. But if another big site on a different domain is launched or it is not something from GSI it gets thrown out. Know what I mean? Lakario - Original Message - From: Tom Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 5:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly PHL is a large site though, and there is already alot of hl news, so I think they have to filter out the stuff which they think only a few people will want to read - Original Message - From: Nathan Taylor To: HLCoders Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 4:36 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly rant PHL is very strange when it comes to new I think. I sent them some pimpage about a mod called The Wind and they seem to just throw away my email. I then sent them email about my site ModDev.net and once again they threw away my email (multiple times) finally, I sent them [1] letter about The Wind which had a screenshot and it was literally up in minutes. They seem very particular about what they post it seems. I mean if I mailed them and was announcing Counter-Strike 2 but had no content, no images, nadda they would spiel for pages whereas I send them something about Mod X and they throw out the email instantanously./rant Lakario - Original Message - From: andrew Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly I would have to agree with a little on the PHL subject, since they seem totake over most of the MOD Coverage seen just because they get backing fromgamespy. they really seem to be picky on what they host and post about. Itreally pisses me off when some of the little lesser know mods never getthere info posted on the site. About the FP charging issue, i have apersonal server thing myself and i can say when FP was in the shitterbecause of the whole file hosting thing and setup this que it really screwedover downloading from therem. When the new HL patch came out it was almost a2000min wait that is BS and i in most cases do not like there system and ithink charging is lame and i agree with those who see the same in that senceWacko- Original Message -From: "Miguel Aleman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 7:24 PMSubject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly See, I would be ok with Fileplanet letting people pay extra for "Dedicated Servers" if they didn't fuck their public ones. I never had a problembefore the que was setup, it was just alittle slow. Now its REALLY slow if youtake into account 15 min+ wait times. Also, if you haven't noticed, they haveads which you cannot close in the wait window. $$$ Also, is it just me, or does PlanetHL screw some mods and make other ones? It seems they have a fetish with some mediocre mods and leave some goodones out. - Original Message - From: "omega" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging if you read what i said, i did say that some do. -omega Blackened Interactive http://www.nofadz.com/blackened IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message - From: "Neale Roberts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging Actually, the GSI staff *do* get paid, as do some of the Planet*.com webmasters. - Original Message - From: "omega" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP chargingive been away for most of the day so i didnt get back in on thisstuff tillnow. but anyway, thats basically what im saying. the services now are almostexactly the same as they were before, 9x out of 10 theres one free mirror,and 2 personal servers on stuff that used to have 3 mirrors. so again, i re-iterate. i will not pay to download the free things. alsophantom, as you said al ittle while ago. gsi staff dosent get paid. neitherdoes phl or any of the other planet workers.well, jeh and LI might. cuz i know back when hl.net went down they offeredshirow a buncha money to work for them, even tho he declined. -omegaBlackened Interactivehttp://www.nofadz.com/blackenedIRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactiveAssistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message -From: "Andrew Foss" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:35 PMSubject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging H
Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly
I've had a pretty good experience with Planet Half-Life. Their hosting services are second to none, and as far as I know, they've posted every news bulletin I've sent them -- dodgy aka David Hunt Leader, Uncrossable Parallel website: http://www.planethalflife.com/uncrossable/sf/ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] irc: irc.gamesnet.net:6667 #parallels icq: 93350590 - Original Message - From: Nathan Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: HLCoders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly
Wow is all I can say. Also, thank you. I have been looking everywhere for a non pay-for host for my website. Perhaps telefragged will be ofassistance to me. - Lakario - Original Message - From: Dynerman David M Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly I would disagree.I've been hosted by TF, GSI, Stomped, and other various hosts...GSI continues to insist that your site is on a planet*.com subdirectory.They won't host domains like other hosts will (i.e. www.flfmod.comwouldn't be hosted by GSI, the best we could do is www.flfmod.comautoforwarding to www.planethalflife.com/frontlineforce)GSI insists that you use its forums, and provides poor support forscripting. Instead of having it nicely integrated, its separated ontoanother server (dynamic.gamespy.com if I'm not mistaken)Many other sites are able to securely run PHP/CGI/Whatever scripting andtheir web services at once, I don't see why GSI couldn't.GSI doesn't provide shell accounts.GSI doesn't provide FTP access to your site, you're instructed to useFilePlanet (The wait is 3405 minutes. Let's go!)GSI doesn't pay you for extra advertising your site generates.On the other hand, a few months ago (before the advertising market fellthrough) Stomped offered us a complete package (I was on Team Reactionat the time)www.teamreaction.comsubdomains for each of our mods (qpong.teamreaction.com,gloom.teamreaction.com, jailbreak.teamreaction.com)script support for our own forums (we were able to keep our forum db andnot have to force users to re-register)ftp access at ftp.teamreaction.com, where we could upload our files andkeep a structured file environment (i.e. ftp.tr.com/pub/quake2/gloom,ftp.tr.com/pub/quake3/jailbreak/, etc)Shell accounts (especially useful to compile Linux versions ofmodifications quickly, without rebooting)Telnet access to our site for management - we could set our ownpermissions, add user accounts for FTP, mail, or WWWStomped paid us for ad revenue we generated above whatever they neededto maintain their business (services they provided us, etc) TeamReaction.com was a medium traffic website, but we still got about $250 amonth out of it.Stomped actually recently was forced to close because of dropping adrevenue, these claims are in reference to several months ago (theydidn't have bloatware 2.0..erm excuse me, Gamespy Arcade 2.0 to backthem up financially)Much, much moreIn any case, TeleFragged is currently providing pretty much the samepackage as above, minus the advertising payment (given the nature of thecurrent ad market, not suprising)FLF needed a new home recently, and being familiar with what our currenthosts (who offered pretty much the same deal as Stomped did) I contactedGSI. Sadly their policies still stand."Sure we'd love to host your site! You'll have to give up the followingthings: your own domain, your own file server, fast downloads, scriptingsupport, shell access, privileges to add users in your own directory,add revenue, and some other stuff"No thanks GSI.david-Original Message-From: dodgy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 8:47 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL MonopolyI've had a pretty good experience with Planet Half-Life.Their hosting services are second to none, and as far as I know, they'veposted every news bulletin I've sent them--dodgyaka David HuntLeader, Uncrossable Parallelwebsite: http://www.planethalflife.com/uncrossable/sf/email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]irc: irc.gamesnet.net:6667 #parallelsicq: 93350590- Original Message -From: "Nathan Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "HLCoders" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:23 PMSubject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly___To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,please visit:http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders___To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcodersGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
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they do. they take really lame ones that dont meet their 75% completion mark as their hosting regulations request, and then leave ones that do have that percentile hanging. ie: snowwar. they hosted it at like 0.1%. and back before i killed mmxhl, when we needed a host, before it started sucking hard, i tried to get hosting on it, we already HAD a release, were mod of teh week once and they wouldnt host us because you dont have 75% completion. which was utter bull. and of course they will NOT post news for american heros because when galadriel was working for them she badmouthed OMA and now they totally ignore it. its just ludicrous. -omega Blackened Interactive http://www.nofadz.com/blackened IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message - From: Miguel Aleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly See, I would be ok with Fileplanet letting people pay extra for Dedicated Servers if they didn't fuck their public ones. I never had a problem before the que was setup, it was just alittle slow. Now its REALLY slow if you take into account 15 min+ wait times. Also, if you haven't noticed, they have ads which you cannot close in the wait window. $$$ Also, is it just me, or does PlanetHL screw some mods and make other ones? It seems they have a fetish with some mediocre mods and leave some good ones out. - Original Message - From: omega [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging if you read what i said, i did say that some do. -omega Blackened Interactive http://www.nofadz.com/blackened IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message - From: Neale Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging Actually, the GSI staff *do* get paid, as do some of the Planet*.com webmasters. - Original Message - From: omega [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging ive been away for most of the day so i didnt get back in on this stuff till now. but anyway, thats basically what im saying. the services now are almost exactly the same as they were before, 9x out of 10 theres one free mirror, and 2 personal servers on stuff that used to have 3 mirrors. so again, i re-iterate. i will not pay to download the free things. also phantom, as you said al ittle while ago. gsi staff dosent get paid. neither does phl or any of the other planet workers. well, jeh and LI might. cuz i know back when hl.net went down they offered shirow a buncha money to work for them, even tho he declined. -omega Blackened Interactive http://www.nofadz.com/blackened IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message - From: Andrew Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging Has anyone ever tired to get the Counter-Strike patch on it's release? The same time 1.1.0.8 came out? I had wait times of 850 minutes. at 1000 logins allowed per server, two servers. and two 90mb files. that's not economics. that's scalping. FP lowered it's max connects to make room for the personal servers. all you get is a unique U/P to connect to the FP servers. it costs them nothing but a little time to do. FP is basically a monopoly. hard to believe, eh? they used to be good, but now they are a spammy, slow, lame FTP site, with long lines. /rant - Original Message - From: _Phantom_ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging That's not really ethics, it's economics (sp?), those who can afford to buy the space and the speed will, those who cant wont. - Original Message - From: Dynerman David M To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FP charging Right. Both your points are right on. However, thinking more in the realistic sense - I've seen wait times of 700 minutes for a download during peak times. So the ethical question again arises; sure you can wait several hours to download that 2 megabyte mod, or you can dish out the $7. david -Original Message- From: John Newfield
RE: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly
CS.net is an exception to the rule. Go ahead and ask them to host your domain, point out that CS has its own domain, see what they say. I tried it, no dice. They were willing to do it because CS has 20 times the popularity of Quake 3, no other mod, including popular ones like DOD or FireArms would be offered that deal. david -Original Message- From: Neale Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly I think when GSI took over the hosting of CS.net, they would have had a fight on their hands to force gooseman et al to change it to a Planet*.com site. It's all about the hits, and CS.net has to be getting a truckload of hits every day. Changing it would just mess things up. - Original Message - From: andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly I would just like to reply to david M's comment about having to be on a planet site. if i recall counter-strike.net is hosted by gamespy so to say they do not host domains would be a lie. They hots thing that will get them money wacko - Original Message - From: omega [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly they do. they take really lame ones that dont meet their 75% completion mark as their hosting regulations request, and then leave ones that do have that percentile hanging. ie: snowwar. they hosted it at like 0.1%. and back before i killed mmxhl, when we needed a host, before it started sucking hard, i tried to get hosting on it, we already HAD a release, were mod of teh week once and they wouldnt host us because you dont have 75% completion. which was utter bull. and of course they will NOT post news for american heros because when galadriel was working for them she badmouthed OMA and now they totally ignore it. its just ludicrous. -omega Blackened Interactive http://www.nofadz.com/blackened IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message - From: Miguel Aleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly See, I would be ok with Fileplanet letting people pay extra for Dedicated Servers if they didn't fuck their public ones. I never had a problem before the que was setup, it was just alittle slow. Now its REALLY slow if you take into account 15 min+ wait times. Also, if you haven't noticed, they have ads which you cannot close in the wait window. $$$ Also, is it just me, or does PlanetHL screw some mods and make other ones? It seems they have a fetish with some mediocre mods and leave some good ones out. - Original Message - From: omega [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging if you read what i said, i did say that some do. -omega Blackened Interactive http://www.nofadz.com/blackened IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message - From: Neale Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging Actually, the GSI staff *do* get paid, as do some of the Planet*.com webmasters. - Original Message - From: omega [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging ive been away for most of the day so i didnt get back in on this stuff till now. but anyway, thats basically what im saying. the services now are almost exactly the same as they were before, 9x out of 10 theres one free mirror, and 2 personal servers on stuff that used to have 3 mirrors. so again, i re-iterate. i will not pay to download the free things. also phantom, as you said al ittle while ago. gsi staff dosent get paid. neither does phl or any of the other planet workers. well, jeh and LI might. cuz i know back when hl.net went down they offered shirow a buncha money to work for them, even tho he declined. -omega Blackened Interactive http://www.nofadz.com/blackened IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message - From: Andrew Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:35 PM Subject
RE: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly
Perhaps. But a website that gets major major hits is non existent aside from CS. CS probably gets more hits a month than Blues News or PHL. The point is, other hosts will offer you a domain name, and much more, without having to make a mod that is more popular than many commercial games. david -Original Message- From: andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 3:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly well, i mean i know they would not host it, and it really is all about the money when it should not be. But i guess i am trying to say they would host your domain if you where getting major major hits. So to say GSI doesn't would be wrong. I to be honest do not like Gamespy but they do a good job on taking over those things that are any threat to them in the gaming market when it comes to coverage. We should all rally lets take them down MUHAHAHAHAHAHA. we can offer better hosting, more bandwidth, and even a cool news posting script with our name on it. we could call it GAMESPY 2. wacko - Original Message - From: Dynerman David M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 1:42 PM Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly CS.net is an exception to the rule. Go ahead and ask them to host your domain, point out that CS has its own domain, see what they say. I tried it, no dice. They were willing to do it because CS has 20 times the popularity of Quake 3, no other mod, including popular ones like DOD or FireArms would be offered that deal. david -Original Message- From: Neale Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly I think when GSI took over the hosting of CS.net, they would have had a fight on their hands to force gooseman et al to change it to a Planet*.com site. It's all about the hits, and CS.net has to be getting a truckload of hits every day. Changing it would just mess things up. - Original Message - From: andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly I would just like to reply to david M's comment about having to be on a planet site. if i recall counter-strike.net is hosted by gamespy so to say they do not host domains would be a lie. They hots thing that will get them money wacko - Original Message - From: omega [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly they do. they take really lame ones that dont meet their 75% completion mark as their hosting regulations request, and then leave ones that do have that percentile hanging. ie: snowwar. they hosted it at like 0.1%. and back before i killed mmxhl, when we needed a host, before it started sucking hard, i tried to get hosting on it, we already HAD a release, were mod of teh week once and they wouldnt host us because you dont have 75% completion. which was utter bull. and of course they will NOT post news for american heros because when galadriel was working for them she badmouthed OMA and now they totally ignore it. its just ludicrous. -omega Blackened Interactive http://www.nofadz.com/blackened IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message - From: Miguel Aleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly See, I would be ok with Fileplanet letting people pay extra for Dedicated Servers if they didn't fuck their public ones. I never had a problem before the que was setup, it was just alittle slow. Now its REALLY slow if you take into account 15 min+ wait times. Also, if you haven't noticed, they have ads which you cannot close in the wait window. $$$ Also, is it just me, or does PlanetHL screw some mods and make other ones? It seems they have a fetish with some mediocre mods and leave some good ones out. - Original Message - From: omega [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging if you read what i said, i did say that some do. -omega Blackened Interactive http://www.nofadz.com/blackened IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message - From: Neale Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging Actually, the GSI
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Actually, there are several more. But I think they are grandfather claused in or nepotistic. I hadn't really heard of any of them before. Dynerman David M wrote: CS.net is an exception to the rule. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
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Well, either way GSI really has something going, someone just needs to come along and do better and until that day we will just have to deal with there slow FP servers, them not posting any real news. always behind on reviews and never really doing anything but look at websites all day and call themselves cool. ONE day we will rise above and beat them down. wacko - Original Message - From: Tim Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly Actually, there are several more. But I think they are grandfather claused in or nepotistic. I hadn't really heard of any of them before. Dynerman David M wrote: CS.net is an exception to the rule. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly
I would have to agree with a little on the PHL subject, since they seem to take over most of the MOD Coverage seen just because they get backing from gamespy. they really seem to be picky on what they host and post about. It really pisses me off when some of the little lesser know mods never get there info posted on the site. About the FP charging issue, i have a personal server thing myself and i can say when FP was in the shitter because of the whole file hosting thing and setup this que it really screwed over downloading from therem. When the new HL patch came out it was almost a 2000min wait that is BS and i in most cases do not like there system and i think charging is lame and i agree with those who see the same in that sence Wacko - Original Message - From: Miguel Aleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging PHL Monopoly See, I would be ok with Fileplanet letting people pay extra for Dedicated Servers if they didn't fuck their public ones. I never had a problem before the que was setup, it was just alittle slow. Now its REALLY slow if you take into account 15 min+ wait times. Also, if you haven't noticed, they have ads which you cannot close in the wait window. $$$ Also, is it just me, or does PlanetHL screw some mods and make other ones? It seems they have a fetish with some mediocre mods and leave some good ones out. - Original Message - From: omega [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging if you read what i said, i did say that some do. -omega Blackened Interactive http://www.nofadz.com/blackened IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message - From: Neale Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging Actually, the GSI staff *do* get paid, as do some of the Planet*.com webmasters. - Original Message - From: omega [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging ive been away for most of the day so i didnt get back in on this stuff till now. but anyway, thats basically what im saying. the services now are almost exactly the same as they were before, 9x out of 10 theres one free mirror, and 2 personal servers on stuff that used to have 3 mirrors. so again, i re-iterate. i will not pay to download the free things. also phantom, as you said al ittle while ago. gsi staff dosent get paid. neither does phl or any of the other planet workers. well, jeh and LI might. cuz i know back when hl.net went down they offered shirow a buncha money to work for them, even tho he declined. -omega Blackened Interactive http://www.nofadz.com/blackened IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com) - Original Message - From: Andrew Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging Has anyone ever tired to get the Counter-Strike patch on it's release? The same time 1.1.0.8 came out? I had wait times of 850 minutes. at 1000 logins allowed per server, two servers. and two 90mb files. that's not economics. that's scalping. FP lowered it's max connects to make room for the personal servers. all you get is a unique U/P to connect to the FP servers. it costs them nothing but a little time to do. FP is basically a monopoly. hard to believe, eh? they used to be good, but now they are a spammy, slow, lame FTP site, with long lines. /rant - Original Message - From: _Phantom_ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging That's not really ethics, it's economics (sp?), those who can afford to buy the space and the speed will, those who cant wont. - Original Message - From: Dynerman David M To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FP charging Right. Both your points are right on. However, thinking more in the realistic sense - I've seen wait times of 700 minutes for a download during peak times. So the ethical question again arises; sure you can wait several hours to download that 2 megabyte mod, or you can dish out the $7. david -Original Message- From: John Newfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 5
