Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware
Colo4Dallas is not ideal for someone looking to host one server as you will be paying $120 / Hour for remote hands billed in 15 minute increments. If you are not too concerned about the network / location and just looking into a budget soultion take a look at something like: http://joesdatacenter.com/server_colocation.php If you have any further questions feel free to shoot me an email at de...@xfactorservers.com From: dlin...@fragonline.net To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:28:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware I colocated with Colo4Dallas for many years, and never had anything but awesome service. I don't colocate now, but if the need should ever arise, that's where I'd go again. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:07 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware i guess but they are highly customizable and the service isnt bad at all On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Rens Ariens r...@serververhuur.comwrote: Leaseweb is known for their prices, not for their support. Michael Krasnow schreef: you could also try leaseweb http://www.leaseweb.com/en/colocation they have great service On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, turb0z tur...@undergamer.com wrote: Depends on the case form factor. If you have a rack case you should be able to find a host to take your hardware, just be ready to agree to their support structure around owning your own equipment (some places won't offer much in support). I host my 1U Quad Core with colocrossing.com and have been very satisfied. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:26 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware Derek, I've been trying to find a datacenter that will take my own hardware for quite a while now. Do you know of any off hand that support this? Kyle. On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Derek Denholm xfactorserv...@live.cawrote: Honestly, it is very cheap now to buy an old used dual core / 2gb of memory for ~$120 and then send it off to a data center and will save you alot of hassle. From: ooksser...@zootal.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:04:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware It may not be much of a cpu by today's standards, but it runs a fully loaded OP4 server and a fully loaded L4D server at 30% cpu. You know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Ill go back to W2K before I'll spend money upgrading the box. - Original Message - From: Bryce Quilley br...@ngn.net.au To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware Installing Win2k8 will make things worse. You need a minimum of 2GB ram for it to function. Upgrade your CPU man, a Sempron is the cheapest piece of crap and was NEVER intended for server operation. At a bare minimum a P4 2.8 with 1GB ram will run Win2k3 perfectly. Win2k8 will need dual core with 2GB ram. On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.comwrote: The general consensus with Server 2008 is it's more... gobbled up than 2003. However if you find it works better for you on older hardware (I would be shocked if it did), please let us know! Kyle. On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Ook ooksser...@zootal.com wrote: Adding more ram isn't likely to help - it doesn't use what it has as-is. I tried Linux for a while, but hlds used 30% cpu sitting there empty - and it went downhill from there. This old cpu isn't up to running the linux hlds binaries - the general consensus is that valve never bothered to optimize them for linux hence they gobble excessive cpu. And yeah, I'm leaning towards putting Win2k back on the box. I have a copy of server 2008 that I think I'll install just so I can say I did, and to tell everyone how lousy it is wiht this older box LOL. Or maybe it will surprise me and actually work good? - Original Message - From: Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003
[hlds] Server not being listed in the master server browser
Alright, I help run a server and I cannot seem to find it via the Master Server list. My operating System is CentOS 5.2, ever since we switched from a GSP to a box I have yet to find this server in there. Any ideas on what could be causing it? is there something that I need to do to get it added to the list? I know this issue has become quite uncommon, however I've tried everything from opening all my ports to disabling iptables all together. I just can't seem to find it on the Master server list along with 10other admins who live in various places around the United States and Canada. Kyle. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server not being listed in the master server browser
What game? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:26 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds] Server not being listed in the master server browser Alright, I help run a server and I cannot seem to find it via the Master Server list. My operating System is CentOS 5.2, ever since we switched from a GSP to a box I have yet to find this server in there. Any ideas on what could be causing it? is there something that I need to do to get it added to the list? I know this issue has become quite uncommon, however I've tried everything from opening all my ports to disabling iptables all together. I just can't seem to find it on the Master server list along with 10other admins who live in various places around the United States and Canada. Kyle. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server not being listed in the master server browser
Sorry! Counter-Strike: Source, it's a ZombieMod server. If anyone wants the IP I'll give it to you off list. Kyle. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.comwrote: What game? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:26 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds] Server not being listed in the master server browser Alright, I help run a server and I cannot seem to find it via the Master Server list. My operating System is CentOS 5.2, ever since we switched from a GSP to a box I have yet to find this server in there. Any ideas on what could be causing it? is there something that I need to do to get it added to the list? I know this issue has become quite uncommon, however I've tried everything from opening all my ports to disabling iptables all together. I just can't seem to find it on the Master server list along with 10other admins who live in various places around the United States and Canada. Kyle. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware
Sorry to go off topic, but if there was a really big earthquake wouldnt all the servers fall down off the racks, if you look at the live cam it shows how tip-able they are. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Derek Denholm xfactorserv...@live.cawrote: Colo4Dallas is not ideal for someone looking to host one server as you will be paying $120 / Hour for remote hands billed in 15 minute increments. If you are not too concerned about the network / location and just looking into a budget soultion take a look at something like: http://joesdatacenter.com/server_colocation.php If you have any further questions feel free to shoot me an email at de...@xfactorservers.com From: dlin...@fragonline.net To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:28:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware I colocated with Colo4Dallas for many years, and never had anything but awesome service. I don't colocate now, but if the need should ever arise, that's where I'd go again. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Krasnow Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:07 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware i guess but they are highly customizable and the service isnt bad at all On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Rens Ariens r...@serververhuur.com wrote: Leaseweb is known for their prices, not for their support. Michael Krasnow schreef: you could also try leaseweb http://www.leaseweb.com/en/colocation they have great service On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, turb0z tur...@undergamer.com wrote: Depends on the case form factor. If you have a rack case you should be able to find a host to take your hardware, just be ready to agree to their support structure around owning your own equipment (some places won't offer much in support). I host my 1U Quad Core with colocrossing.com and have been very satisfied. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:26 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware Derek, I've been trying to find a datacenter that will take my own hardware for quite a while now. Do you know of any off hand that support this? Kyle. On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Derek Denholm xfactorserv...@live.cawrote: Honestly, it is very cheap now to buy an old used dual core / 2gb of memory for ~$120 and then send it off to a data center and will save you alot of hassle. From: ooksser...@zootal.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:04:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware It may not be much of a cpu by today's standards, but it runs a fully loaded OP4 server and a fully loaded L4D server at 30% cpu. You know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Ill go back to W2K before I'll spend money upgrading the box. - Original Message - From: Bryce Quilley br...@ngn.net.au To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware Installing Win2k8 will make things worse. You need a minimum of 2GB ram for it to function. Upgrade your CPU man, a Sempron is the cheapest piece of crap and was NEVER intended for server operation. At a bare minimum a P4 2.8 with 1GB ram will run Win2k3 perfectly. Win2k8 will need dual core with 2GB ram. On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.comwrote: The general consensus with Server 2008 is it's more... gobbled up than 2003. However if you find it works better for you on older hardware (I would be shocked if it did), please let us know! Kyle. On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Ook ooksser...@zootal.com wrote: Adding more ram isn't likely to help - it doesn't use what it has as-is. I tried Linux for a while, but hlds used 30% cpu sitting there empty - and it went downhill from there. This old cpu isn't up to running the linux hlds binaries - the general consensus is that valve never bothered to optimize them for linux hence they gobble excessive cpu. And yeah, I'm leaning towards putting Win2k back on the box. I have a copy of server 2008 that I think I'll install just
Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware
Hahahah! I think you've probably got bigger problems associated with a datacenter being in a major earthquake than whether your server fell off the rack. Besides, wouldn't you just send them a nice 1U rack-mount server? DontWannaName! wrote: Sorry to go off topic, but if there was a really big earthquake wouldnt all the servers fall down off the racks, if you look at the live cam it shows how tip-able they are. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Derek Denholm xfactorserv...@live.cawrote: ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware
They would probably find a way to put it upright so it falls off their costco bought racks. That host is just begging for the word sketchy. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Matt Stanton inflatablesoulm...@brothersofchaos.com wrote: Hahahah! I think you've probably got bigger problems associated with a datacenter being in a major earthquake than whether your server fell off the rack. Besides, wouldn't you just send them a nice 1U rack-mount server? DontWannaName! wrote: Sorry to go off topic, but if there was a really big earthquake wouldnt all the servers fall down off the racks, if you look at the live cam it shows how tip-able they are. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Derek Denholm xfactorserv...@live.ca wrote: ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
