Sorry to go off topic, but if there was a really big earthquake wouldnt all the servers fall down off the racks, if you look at the live cam it shows how tip-able they are.
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Derek Denholm <xfactorserv...@live.ca>wrote: > > Colo4Dallas is not ideal for someone looking to host one server as you will > be paying $120 / Hour for remote hands billed in 15 minute increments. If > you are not too concerned about the network / location and just looking into > a budget soultion take a look at something like: > http://joesdatacenter.com/server_colocation.php > > > > If you have any further questions feel free to shoot me an email at > de...@xfactorservers.com > > > > > > > From: dlin...@fragonline.net > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:28:00 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > > > > I colocated with Colo4Dallas for many years, and never had anything but > > awesome service. I don't colocate now, but if the need should ever arise, > > that's where I'd go again. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Krasnow > > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:07 AM > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > > > > i guess but they are highly customizable and the service isnt bad at all > > > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Rens Ariens <r...@serververhuur.com > >wrote: > > > > > Leaseweb is known for their prices, not for their support. > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Krasnow schreef: > > > > you could also try leaseweb > > > > > > > > http://www.leaseweb.com/en/colocation > > > > > > > > they have great service > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, turb0z <tur...@undergamer.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Depends on the case form factor. If you have a rack case you should > be > > > >> able > > > >> to find a host to take your hardware, just be ready to agree to > their > > > >> support structure around owning your own equipment (some places > won't > > > offer > > > >> much in support). > > > >> > > > >> I host my 1U Quad Core with colocrossing.com and have been very > > > satisfied. > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle > > > Sanderson > > > >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:26 AM > > > >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older hardware > > > >> > > > >> Derek, I've been trying to find a datacenter that will take my own > > > hardware > > > >> for quite a while now. Do you know of any off hand that support > this? > > > >> > > > >> Kyle. > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Derek Denholm > > > >> <xfactorserv...@live.ca>wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Honestly, it is very cheap now to buy an old used dual core / 2gb > of > > > >>> memory for ~$120 and then send it off to a data center and will > save > > > you > > > >>> alot of hassle. > > > >>> > > > >>>> From: ooksser...@zootal.com > > > >>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > >>>> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:04:12 -0700 > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older > hardware > > > >>>> > > > >>>> It may not be much of a cpu by today's standards, but it runs a > fully > > > >>> loaded > > > >>>> OP4 server and a fully loaded L4D server at 30% cpu. You know, if > it > > > >>> ain't > > > >>>> broke, don't fix it. I"ll go back to W2K before I'll spend money > > > >>> upgrading > > > >>>> the box. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>>> From: "Bryce Quilley" <br...@ngn.net.au> > > > >>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > > > >>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > >>>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:47 PM > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older > hardware > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Installing Win2k8 will make things worse. You need a minimum of > 2GB > > > >> ram > > > >>>>> for > > > >>>>> it to function. > > > >>>>> Upgrade your CPU man, a Sempron is the cheapest piece of crap and > > was > > > >>>>> NEVER > > > >>>>> intended for server operation. At a bare minimum a P4 2.8 with > 1GB > > > >> ram > > > >>>>> will > > > >>>>> run Win2k3 perfectly. Win2k8 will need dual core with 2GB ram. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kyle Sanderson > > > >>>>> <kyle.l...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> The general consensus with Server 2008 is it's more... gobbled > up > > > >> than > > > >>>>>> 2003. > > > >>>>>> However if you find it works better for you on older hardware (I > > > >> would > > > >>> be > > > >>>>>> shocked if it did), please let us know! > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Kyle. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Ook <ooksser...@zootal.com> > wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Adding more ram isn't likely to help - it doesn't use what it > has > > > >>>>>>> as-is. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> I tried Linux for a while, but hlds used 30% cpu sitting there > > > >> empty > > > >>> - > > > >>>>>> and > > > >>>>>>> it went downhill from there. This old cpu isn't up to running > the > > > >>> linux > > > >>>>>>> hlds > > > >>>>>>> binaries - the general consensus is that valve never bothered > to > > > >>>>>>> optimize > > > >>>>>>> them for linux hence they gobble excessive cpu. And yeah, I'm > > > >>> leaning > > > >>>>>>> towards putting Win2k back on the box. I have a copy of server > > > >> 2008 > > > >>>>>>> that > > > >>>>>> I > > > >>>>>>> think I'll install just so I can say I did, and to tell > everyone > > > >> how > > > >>>>>> lousy > > > >>>>>>> it is wiht this older box LOL. Or maybe it will surprise me and > > > >>>>>>> actually > > > >>>>>>> work good? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>>>>>> From: "Kyle Sanderson" <kyle.l...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" > > > >>>>>>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:53 PM > > > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Win2k versus 2003 versus 2008 on older > > > >> hardware > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Why would adding more ram decrease the CPU usage on SRCDS? > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> If I were you Ook I would go back to Win2000 as Microsoft only > > > >>> gets > > > >>>>>>>> sloppier > > > >>>>>>>> with their new releases of Windows. (Or try Linux, although > from > > > >>> my > > > >>>>>>>> experiences SRCDS tends to use more CPU and Ram on it.) > > > >>>>>>>> Kyle. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Mike O'Laughlen > > > >>>>>>>> <molaugh...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Add more RAM. > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Ook <ooksser...@zootal.com> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>> I have an older box, AMD Sempron 2400+, 1GB ram, that I use > > > >> for > > > >>> to > > > >>>>>> run > > > >>>>>>>>>> an > > > >>>>>>>>>> OP4 server (hlds.exe) and a L4D server (srcds.exe). With > > > >>> Win2000 > > > >>>>>>>>>> and > > > >>>>>>>>>> both > > > >>>>>>>>>> servers full, cpu is about 30%. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> I upgraded it from Win2000 to server 2003, and when I did I > > > >>>>>>>>>> noticed > > > >>>>>> a > > > >>>>>>>>>> significant increase in cpu consumption. On the Winserver > > > >> 2003 > > > >>>>>>>>>> box, > > > >>>>>> it > > > >>>>>>>>> used > > > >>>>>>>>>> 80-90% cpu. My first guess was that the cpu scheduler in > > > >> server > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2003 > > > >>>>>>>>>> has > > > >>>>>>>>>> more overhead and the context switches were using up all the > > > >>> extra > > > >>>>>>> cpu. > > > >>>>>>>>> My > > > >>>>>>>>>> second guess was that I really didn't have a clue why. On > > > >> both > > > >>>>>>>>>> installations > > > >>>>>>>>>> I stopped all services I didn't think needed to be running. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> I have a copy of Server 2008, but I'm thinking this box may > > > >> be > > > >>> too > > > >>>>>> old > > > >>>>>>>>>> to > > > >>>>>>>>>> run that. Also performance under 2003 wasn't that great, I'm > > > >>> not > > > >>>>>> sure > > > >>>>>>>>>> it > > > >>>>>>>>>> would be any better under 2008. > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Anyone have experience running server 2003/2008 on older > > > >>> hardware > > > >>>>>> re. > > > >>>>>>>>>> performance? > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > >>>>>> archives, > > > >>>>>>>>>> please visit: > > > >>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > >>>>>>>>> archives, > > > >>>>>>>>> please visit: > > > >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > >>>>>>>> archives, > > > >>>>>>>> please visit: > > > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > >>> archives, > > > >>>>>>> please visit: > > > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > >> archives, > > > >>>>>> please visit: > > > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > >> archives, > > > >>>>> please visit: > > > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>>> > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > >>> please visit: > > > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > > > >>> New! 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