[hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
Seems TF2 servers are reporting players via the query protocol even though the console says 0 players and the server is using 0 CPU. Like most GSP's we use the query results to monitor performance and perform restarts when idle so its important that this information is correct. So really could do with this being fixed. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
Check for fake player plugins. Seems TF2 servers are reporting players via the query protocol even though the console says 0 players and the server is using 0 CPU. Like most GSP's we use the query results to monitor performance and perform restarts when idle so its important that this information is correct. So really could do with this being fixed. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
Better yet, cancel the accounts of servers running fake clients or forcefully remove the plug-ins yourself. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Check for fake player plugins. Seems TF2 servers are reporting players via the query protocol even though the console says 0 players and the server is using 0 CPU. Like most GSP's we use the query results to monitor performance and perform restarts when idle so its important that this information is correct. So really could do with this being fixed. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
Yeah... lol. Won't they get your IP's blacklisted anyway? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: Better yet, cancel the accounts of servers running fake clients or forcefully remove the plug-ins yourself. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Check for fake player plugins. Seems TF2 servers are reporting players via the query protocol even though the console says 0 players and the server is using 0 CPU. Like most GSP's we use the query results to monitor performance and perform restarts when idle so its important that this information is correct. So really could do with this being fixed. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
That's a good point! Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:44:35 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing listhlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Yeah... lol. Won't they get your IP's blacklisted anyway? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: Better yet, cancel the accounts of servers running fake clients or forcefully remove the plug-ins yourself. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Check for fake player plugins. Seems TF2 servers are reporting players via the query protocol even though the console says 0 players and the server is using 0 CPU. Like most GSP's we use the query results to monitor performance and perform restarts when idle so its important that this information is correct. So really could do with this being fixed. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
I had this problem with the server I rented, I had to petition the maintainers of the blacklist and convince them to remove my IP because the previous owner had used fake client plugins. You'd be doing your clients a favor! On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:26 AM, voo...@voogru.com wrote: That's a good point! Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:44:35 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Yeah... lol. Won't they get your IP's blacklisted anyway? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: Better yet, cancel the accounts of servers running fake clients or forcefully remove the plug-ins yourself. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Check for fake player plugins. Seems TF2 servers are reporting players via the query protocol even though the console says 0 players and the server is using 0 CPU. Like most GSP's we use the query results to monitor performance and perform restarts when idle so its important that this information is correct. So really could do with this being fixed. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
Well Valve broke the free version a few months ago so whatever they are using they must have paid for. It will take a while to get delisted but if people keep connecting and leaving they will end up with a delist. Then they will come asking for a new IP and you will say NO or say a new IP is going to cost you... On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:26 AM, voo...@voogru.com wrote: That's a good point! Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:44:35 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Yeah... lol. Won't they get your IP's blacklisted anyway? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: Better yet, cancel the accounts of servers running fake clients or forcefully remove the plug-ins yourself. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:35 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Check for fake player plugins. Seems TF2 servers are reporting players via the query protocol even though the console says 0 players and the server is using 0 CPU. Like most GSP's we use the query results to monitor performance and perform restarts when idle so its important that this information is correct. So really could do with this being fixed. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
Nope cant find any, seems like they are players that had been on the server but have left, a restart fixed it for now. Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.de To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Check for fake player plugins. Seems TF2 servers are reporting players via the query protocol even though the console says 0 players and the server is using 0 CPU. Like most GSP's we use the query results to monitor performance and perform restarts when idle so its important that this information is correct. So really could do with this being fixed. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
Quoted from Kigen: Its [sic] like stealing a bike from the front of a bike shop and saying, Well, they didn't have it locked down so its [sic] mine now. No, it's like buying a bike and taking a matching headlight seconds before it was thrown in for free. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
For the last time, you can only play the Beta if you have a legitimate copy of CS:S. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Max S si3ila...@gmail.com wrote: Quoted from Kigen: Its [sic] like stealing a bike from the front of a bike shop and saying, Well, they didn't have it locked down so its [sic] mine now. No, it's like buying a bike and taking a matching headlight seconds before it was thrown in for free. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
For the last time, the beta is copyright Valve Software, if you do not have a license from them to download it, your breaking the law. You can only play the beta if you have a computer, Steam, a keyboard, and the Internet, but all of these prerequisites are just as irrelevant to copyright law as it stands as you'res is. You're metaphor doesnt make sense, its already free - just for certain people. Its a bit like a free gig, where the first n thousand people get in and then they run out of tickets. You' do'nt have the rite to sne'ak in ju'st be'cau'se the 'peo'ple who'are allowed in didnt pay'. - Original Message - From: Max S si3ila...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA For the last time, you can only play the Beta if you have a legitimate copy of CS:S. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Max S si3ila...@gmail.com wrote: Quoted from Kigen: Its [sic] like stealing a bike from the front of a bike shop and saying, Well, they didn't have it locked down so its [sic] mine now. No, it's like buying a bike and taking a matching headlight seconds before it was thrown in for free. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Re: [hlds] (no subject)
reactionimage.avi -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of myself last name goes here Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:25 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) oh, sorry, i forgot that everyone on the internet is a complete asshole! next time when i get an e-mail from anyone i won't reply because god forbid something lands in your inbox jesus christ On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Olly oli...@gmail.com wrote: thank YOU for spamming my inbox... I have blocked this guy, but people _still_ feel the need to reply to them, and we all get the emails anyway. Can't you just drop it and simply NOT reply? On 17 May 2010 21:39, myself last name goes here rageph...@gmail.com wrote: you there, shut it up with your ads this is supposed to be a CLEAN inbox On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Dustin wizards turbowiz2...@hotmail.com wrote: http://www.radio-4fun.eu/home.php _ Looking for a place to manage all your online stuff? Download the new Windows Live http://download.live.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
This isn't fake players, this is a bug introduced around the same time as ghost players. The server will continue to report a player or two after the server empties out. I've seen users come online, complain about fake players, when there is no fake player utility of any kind installed, running, or otherwise, then quit. The server was empty before and after. But a query shows a player or two. It was almost a dead ringer for fake players. It had 1 or 2 players in the query results who used to be playing on the server, but were no longer. A new player would be properly added to the query list too. Very irritating as it makes it look like there are fake players running! It doesn't happen often, but when it does it really damages a server's reputation for everyone that sees it. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.ukwrote: Nope cant find any, seems like they are players that had been on the server but have left, a restart fixed it for now. Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.de To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Check for fake player plugins. Seems TF2 servers are reporting players via the query protocol even though the console says 0 players and the server is using 0 CPU. Like most GSP's we use the query results to monitor performance and perform restarts when idle so its important that this information is correct. So really could do with this being fixed. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
Its my birthday today, don't be hatin' From: abut...@netaccess.ca To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:37:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) reactionimage.avi -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of myself last name goes here Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:25 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) oh, sorry, i forgot that everyone on the internet is a complete asshole! next time when i get an e-mail from anyone i won't reply because god forbid something lands in your inbox jesus christ On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Olly oli...@gmail.com wrote: thank YOU for spamming my inbox... I have blocked this guy, but people _still_ feel the need to reply to them, and we all get the emails anyway. Can't you just drop it and simply NOT reply? On 17 May 2010 21:39, myself last name goes here rageph...@gmail.com wrote: you there, shut it up with your ads this is supposed to be a CLEAN inbox On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Dustin wizards turbowiz2...@hotmail.com wrote: http://www.radio-4fun.eu/home.php _ Looking for a place to manage all your online stuff? Download the new Windows Live http://download.live.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
I concur on this point. I've noticed this issue for a long time now. It's like the server fails to refresh it's query reply data often enough, or at all when no one is on the server. Almost like the server went to sleep before completing some tasks. But I thought only L4D servers hibernated On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Kevin b er kevin-b...@starmen.net wrote: This isn't fake players, this is a bug introduced around the same time as ghost players. The server will continue to report a player or two after the server empties out. I've seen users come online, complain about fake players, when there is no fake player utility of any kind installed, running, or otherwise, then quit. The server was empty before and after. But a query shows a player or two. It was almost a dead ringer for fake players. It had 1 or 2 players in the query results who used to be playing on the server, but were no longer. A new player would be properly added to the query list too. Very irritating as it makes it look like there are fake players running! It doesn't happen often, but when it does it really damages a server's reputation for everyone that sees it. -- All programmers are playwrights and all computers are lousy actors. - Unknown When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my religion. - Abraham Lincoln Mark J. Gunnett [EoE]SniperFodder{AL} ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
I've noticed that on my server, in HLSW. It'll read 1 player when there are no players connected. Also shows 1 player in steam's server info, but no name obv. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Kevin b er kevin-b...@starmen.net wrote: This isn't fake players, this is a bug introduced around the same time as ghost players. The server will continue to report a player or two after the server empties out. I've seen users come online, complain about fake players, when there is no fake player utility of any kind installed, running, or otherwise, then quit. The server was empty before and after. But a query shows a player or two. It was almost a dead ringer for fake players. It had 1 or 2 players in the query results who used to be playing on the server, but were no longer. A new player would be properly added to the query list too. Very irritating as it makes it look like there are fake players running! It doesn't happen often, but when it does it really damages a server's reputation for everyone that sees it. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.ukwrote: Nope cant find any, seems like they are players that had been on the server but have left, a restart fixed it for now. Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.de To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Check for fake player plugins. Seems TF2 servers are reporting players via the query protocol even though the console says 0 players and the server is using 0 CPU. Like most GSP's we use the query results to monitor performance and perform restarts when idle so its important that this information is correct. So really could do with this being fixed. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ¤Ψ[GoR]|Ω|Ďaŗŧh_ÑiñjaΨ¤ http://www.DarthNinja.com http://www.GoRClan.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty
I'm not going to worry about it too much. If our server actually gets delisted, then i'll start complaining. Till then On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:22 PM, DarthNinja darthni...@darthninja.comwrote: I've noticed that on my server, in HLSW. It'll read 1 player when there are no players connected. Also shows 1 player in steam's server info, but no name obv. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Kevin b er kevin-b...@starmen.net wrote: This isn't fake players, this is a bug introduced around the same time as ghost players. The server will continue to report a player or two after the server empties out. I've seen users come online, complain about fake players, when there is no fake player utility of any kind installed, running, or otherwise, then quit. The server was empty before and after. But a query shows a player or two. It was almost a dead ringer for fake players. It had 1 or 2 players in the query results who used to be playing on the server, but were no longer. A new player would be properly added to the query list too. Very irritating as it makes it look like there are fake players running! It doesn't happen often, but when it does it really damages a server's reputation for everyone that sees it. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.ukwrote: Nope cant find any, seems like they are players that had been on the server but have left, a restart fixed it for now. Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.de To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 servers reporting players via Query when empty Check for fake player plugins. Seems TF2 servers are reporting players via the query protocol even though the console says 0 players and the server is using 0 CPU. Like most GSP's we use the query results to monitor performance and perform restarts when idle so its important that this information is correct. So really could do with this being fixed. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ¤Ψ[GoR]|Ω|Ďaŗŧh_ÑiñjaΨ¤ http://www.DarthNinja.com http://www.GoRClan.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- All programmers are playwrights and all computers are lousy actors. - Unknown When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my religion. - Abraham Lincoln Mark J. Gunnett [EoE]SniperFodder{AL} ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
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