Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
Just to add my quick $0.02 since most people don't understand. And if it does make a sale more likely, does giving the game out for less money help Valve? ABSOLUTELY! Thinking otherwise leads you to the way of Adobe with CS. You're going to get more people to buy the game at $35 than you are at $50. You'll easily get enough extra sales to make more money selling more copies than you would by selling it to less people at $50/ea. Simple economics, yet most people and business owners don't understand. It's not like Valve has to spend extra money for each extra copy of the game sold...they aren't selling physical copies, it's all digital, and they already have the infrastructure in place to handle the downloads. -Michael -- Original Message --- Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA From: Ed Kellett e...@estc.demon.co.uk To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: 5/14/2010 2:51 PM EST Piracy is not defined by your moral outlook on the situation, the CS:S beta is copyright Valve and to download it (from their servers or otherwise) without their permission is illegal. Whether or not illegal downloading hardly hurts Valve is for Valve to decide, as is who they want to have access to it. The Subscriber Agreement gives them the right to ban anyone they like from Steam in any case. How can an increase in anticipation arise from more people already having the game anyway? And if it does make a sale more likely, does giving the game out for less money help Valve? - Original Message - From: Max Ssi3ila...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA If it were a paid DLC and none of the public had access, then yes, it would be piracy. You can only play on Beta servers if you've purchased a license of CS:S, thousands have already downloaded the client and posted videos online, and legitimate copies of the game will be updated next week. No core gameplay elements have been changed/added, and an increase in anticipation hardly hurts Valve (and increases the probability of a week(end) sale to celebrate the update). On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:06 AM, icsi...@ics-base.net wrote: Well it's like a copy of a game you do not own. Technically piracy, since it's unreleased. -ics ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
Chris, Both your replies, dead on. Price sales lead to more sales. Companies just found a price so far that /most/ people will pay for and they still rake in the big bucks. Though, who are we to judge? We aren't the companies who make them/sarcasm. Alec, as far as that...no I didn't say that. There is a break even point, where you are covering your costs per unit. Once you exceed that, it's pure profit...going for $10 profit instead of $30 profit hurts per unit, but it generates more sales. (And just as an FYI/CYA - These are arbitrary numbers I just used to prove a point). -- Original Message --- Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA From: Chris Brunelle cbrunel...@cogeco.ca To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: 5/14/2010 3:22 PM EST Analysts? Really? You can' be serious. Retail prices for new games whether console or pc are the same no matter who the publisher/devloper is. You can almost go as far as saying it's price fixing at it's best. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Alec Sanger Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:18 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA Since you've put no lower bounds on your theory, are you asserting that valve would make more money by selling their games for $0.05 rather than $30? You have to realize that there are analysts hired to determine the most appropriate price point based on current and past trends. I would certainly trust their judgment over yours. While I would love valve games for as little money as possible, it's not always in their best interest to reduce the price. Why are we even talking about this on the HLDS mailing list? Thank you, Alec Sanger Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:09:09 -0400 From: gizmokid2...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA Just to add my quick $0.02 since most people don't understand. And if it does make a sale more likely, does giving the game out for less money help Valve? ABSOLUTELY! Thinking otherwise leads you to the way of Adobe with CS. You're going to get more people to buy the game at $35 than you are at $50. You'll easily get enough extra sales to make more money selling more copies than you would by selling it to less people at $50/ea. Simple economics, yet most people and business owners don't understand. It's not like Valve has to spend extra money for each extra copy of the game sold...they aren't selling physical copies, it's all digital, and they already have the infrastructure in place to handle the downloads. -Michael -- Original Message --- Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA From: Ed Kellette...@estc.demon.co.uk To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: 5/14/2010 2:51 PM EST Piracy is not defined by your moral outlook on the situation, the CS:S beta is copyright Valve and to download it (from their servers or otherwise) without their permission is illegal. Whether or not illegal downloading hardly hurts Valve is for Valve to decide, as is who they want to have access to it. The Subscriber Agreement gives them the right to ban anyone they like from Steam in any case. How can an increase in anticipation arise from more people already having the game anyway? And if it does make a sale more likely, does giving the game out for less money help Valve? - Original Message - From: Max Ssi3ila...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA If it were a paid DLC and none of the public had access, then yes, it would be piracy. You can only play on Beta servers if you've purchased a license of CS:S, thousands have already downloaded the client and posted videos online, and legitimate copies of the game will be updated next week. No core gameplay elements have been changed/added, and an increase in anticipation hardly hurts Valve (and increases the probability of a week(end) sale to celebrate the update). On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:06 AM, icsi...@ics-base.net wrote: Well it's like a copy of a game you do not own. Technically piracy, since it's unreleased. -ics ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Doing some digging it looks like the nameservers (ns1/ns2.xfactorservers.com) are failing right now, even though their site is up, but of course, their site use ns1-ns4.firehost.com. So, if I had to give you a reason their site was down, xfactor server's nameservers are failing right now. Probably a temporary issue and will be fixed with the starting of tomorrow's workweek. -Michael -- Original Message --- Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem From: Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: 2/21/2010 9:56 PM EST I didn't even read the letters VPS on there. Depends on the provider really and the resources provided, but no, it doesn't run that great. Cheaper to rent really. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual servers, from what I've read. ~ Matt srcds.com On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName!ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: You can download it from SteamFriends http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloadsshowfile=12 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooLcc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugarjeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or
Re: [hlds] ST3Gaming.com using100mbit connection to DoS rival servers
http://centralops.net/co FTW :) Address lookup canonical name st3gaming.com. aliases addresses 208.113.196.53 Domain Whois record Queried whois.internic.net with dom st3gaming.com... Domain Name: ST3GAMING.COM Registrar: NEW DREAM NETWORK, LLC Whois Server: whois.dreamhost.com Referral URL: http://www.dreamhost.com Name Server: NS1.DREAMHOST.COM Name Server: NS2.DREAMHOST.COM Name Server: NS3.DREAMHOST.COM Status: ok Updated Date: 19-nov-2009 Creation Date: 18-nov-2008 Expiration Date: 18-nov-2010 Last update of whois database: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:54:18 UTC Queried whois.dreamhost.com with st3gaming.com... Legal Stuff: The information in DreamHost's whois database is to be used for informational purposes only, and to obtain information on a domain name registration. DreamHost does not guarantee its accuracy. You are not authorized to query or access DreamHost's whois database using high-volume, automated means without written permission from DreamHost. You are not authorized to query or access DreamHost's whois database in order to facilitate illegal activities, or to facilitate the use of unsolicited bulk email, telephone, or facsimile communications. You are not authorized to collect, repackage, or redistribute the information in DreamHost's whois database. DreamHost may, at its sole discretion, restrict your access to the whois database at any time, with or without notice. DreamHost may modify these Terms of Service at any time, with or without notice. +++ Domain Name: st3gaming.com Registrant Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Administrative Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Technical Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Billing Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Record created on 2008-11-18 20:08:30. Record expires on 2010-11-18 20:08:30. Domain servers in listed order: ns1.dreamhost.com ns2.dreamhost.com ns3.dreamhost.com DreamHost whois server terms of service: http://whois.dreamhost.com/terms.html Get a 14-day free trial of unlimited everything from DreamHost Web Hosting. Includes A FREE domain registration! http://www.dreamhost.com/ Use promotional code WHOIS for an additional $50 off any plan! Network Whois record Queried whois.arin.net with 208.113.196.53... OrgName:New Dream Network, LLC OrgID: NDN Address:417 Associated Rd. Address:PMB #257 City: Brea StateProv: CA PostalCode: 92821 Country:US NetRange: 208.113.128.0 - 208.113.255.255 CIDR: 208.113.128.0/17 NetName:DREAMHOST-BLK6 NetHandle: NET-208-113-128-0-1 Parent: NET-208-0-0-0-0 NetType:Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.DREAMHOST.COM NameServer: NS2.DREAMHOST.COM NameServer: NS3.DREAMHOST.COM Comment: RegDate:2006-04-12 Updated:2007-11-01 OrgAbuseHandle: DAT5-ARIN OrgAbuseName: DreamHost Abuse Team OrgAbusePhone: +1-714-706-4182 OrgAbuseEmail: ab...@dreamhost.com OrgNOCHandle: ZD69-ARIN OrgNOCName: Network Operations OrgNOCPhone: +1-714-706-4182 OrgNOCEmail: net...@dreamhost.com OrgTechHandle: MNA53-ARIN OrgTechName: Nagel, Mark OrgTechPhone: +1-714-706-4182 OrgTechEmail: mna47-a...@dreamhost.com # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2010-01-24 20:00 DNS records nameclass typedatatime to live st3gaming.com IN NS ns1.dreamhost.com 14400s (04:00:00) st3gaming.com IN SOA server: ns1.dreamhost.com email: hostmaster.dreamhost.com serial: 2009080200 refresh:15642 retry: 1800 expire: 1814400 minimum ttl:14400 14400s (04:00:00) st3gaming.com IN MX preference: 0 exchange: aspmx.l.google.com 14400s (04:00:00) st3gaming.com IN A 208.113.196.53 14400s (04:00:00) st3gaming.com IN NS ns3.dreamhost.com 14400s (04:00:00) st3gaming.com IN NS ns2.dreamhost.com 14400s (04:00:00) 53.196.113.208.in-addr.arpa IN PTR apache2-igloo.boxster.dreamhost.com 14400s (04:00:00) -- end -- Original Message Subject: Re: [hlds] ST3Gaming.com using100mbit connection to DoSrival servers From: msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Re: [hlds] ST3Gaming.com using100mbit connection to DoS rival servers
It doesn't matter. You have the ISP's abuse contact info. That's who you want to have shut him down...domain name means jack in this case... --Original Message-- Subject: Re: [hlds] ST3Gaming.com using100mbit connection to DoS rival servers From: Kevin b er kevin-b...@starmen.net To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, Jan 25, 2010 4:11:01 PM -0600 Not really FTW. The illegal actor is hiding behind proxy registrations. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Michael Secord gizmokid2...@gmail.comwrote: http://centralops.net/co FTW :) Address lookup canonical name st3gaming.com. aliases addresses 208.113.196.53 Domain Whois record Queried whois.internic.net with dom st3gaming.com... Domain Name: ST3GAMING.COM Registrar: NEW DREAM NETWORK, LLC Whois Server: whois.dreamhost.com Referral URL: http://www.dreamhost.com Name Server: NS1.DREAMHOST.COM Name Server: NS2.DREAMHOST.COM Name Server: NS3.DREAMHOST.COM Status: ok Updated Date: 19-nov-2009 Creation Date: 18-nov-2008 Expiration Date: 18-nov-2010 Last update of whois database: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:54:18 UTC Queried whois.dreamhost.com with st3gaming.com... Legal Stuff: The information in DreamHost's whois database is to be used for informational purposes only, and to obtain information on a domain name registration. DreamHost does not guarantee its accuracy. You are not authorized to query or access DreamHost's whois database using high-volume, automated means without written permission from DreamHost. You are not authorized to query or access DreamHost's whois database in order to facilitate illegal activities, or to facilitate the use of unsolicited bulk email, telephone, or facsimile communications. You are not authorized to collect, repackage, or redistribute the information in DreamHost's whois database. DreamHost may, at its sole discretion, restrict your access to the whois database at any time, with or without notice. DreamHost may modify these Terms of Service at any time, with or without notice. +++ Domain Name: st3gaming.com Registrant Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Administrative Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Technical Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Billing Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Record created on 2008-11-18 20:08:30. Record expires on 2010-11-18 20:08:30. Domain servers in listed order: ns1.dreamhost.com ns2.dreamhost.com ns3.dreamhost.com DreamHost whois server terms of service: http://whois.dreamhost.com/terms.html Get a 14-day free trial of unlimited everything from DreamHost Web Hosting. Includes A FREE domain registration! http://www.dreamhost.com/ Use promotional code WHOIS for an additional $50 off any plan! Network Whois record Queried whois.arin.net with 208.113.196.53... OrgName:New Dream Network, LLC OrgID: NDN Address:417 Associated Rd. Address:PMB #257 City: Brea StateProv: CA PostalCode: 92821 Country:US NetRange: 208.113.128.0 - 208.113.255.255 CIDR: 208.113.128.0/17 NetName:DREAMHOST-BLK6 NetHandle: NET-208-113-128-0-1 Parent: NET-208-0-0-0-0 NetType:Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.DREAMHOST.COM NameServer: NS2.DREAMHOST.COM NameServer: NS3.DREAMHOST.COM Comment: RegDate:2006-04-12 Updated:2007-11-01 OrgAbuseHandle: DAT5-ARIN OrgAbuseName: DreamHost Abuse Team OrgAbusePhone: +1-714-706-4182 OrgAbuseEmail: ab...@dreamhost.com OrgNOCHandle: ZD69-ARIN OrgNOCName: Network Operations OrgNOCPhone: +1-714-706-4182 OrgNOCEmail: net...@dreamhost.com OrgTechHandle: MNA53-ARIN OrgTechName: Nagel, Mark OrgTechPhone: +1-714-706-4182 OrgTechEmail: mna47-a...@dreamhost.com # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2010-01-24 20:00 DNS records nameclass typedatatime to live st3gaming.com IN NS ns1.dreamhost.com 14400s (04:00:00) st3gaming.com IN SOA server: ns1.dreamhost.com email: hostmaster.dreamhost.com serial: 2009080200 refresh:15642 retry: 1800 expire: 1814400 minimum ttl:14400 14400s (04:00:00) st3gaming.com IN MX
Re: [hlds] ST3Gaming.com using100mbit connection to DoS rival servers
Neph - if you were referring to me, I read exactly what happened, at the start of this thread you'll see someone asked for the abuse/contact info, so I just provided it. As well as a tool to anyone else who may be hit by this. Information is power. Original Message Subject: Re: [hlds] ST3Gaming.com using100mbit connection toDoS rival servers From: Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: 1/25/2010 6:34 PM Reading comprehension is low on this list. I wonder why people don't jump to help people anymore. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nephyrin Zey Sent: January 25, 2010 6:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] ST3Gaming.com using100mbit connection to DoS rival servers Reading comprehension is low on this list. I'm emailing an abuse report to his host now. I also sent a update about my conversation with his host to this very thread. I *also also* mentioned his host was cet.com - he registered his domain through dreamhost, nothing more. - Neph On 01/25/2010 02:33 PM, Michael Secord wrote: It doesn't matter. You have the ISP's abuse contact info. That's who you want to have shut him down...domain name means jack in this case... --Original Message-- Subject: Re: [hlds] ST3Gaming.com using100mbit connection to DoS rival servers From: Kevin b erkevin-b...@starmen.net To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, Jan 25, 2010 4:11:01 PM -0600 Not really FTW. The illegal actor is hiding behind proxy registrations. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Michael Secordgizmokid2...@gmail.comwrote: http://centralops.net/co FTW :) Address lookup canonical name st3gaming.com. aliases addresses 208.113.196.53 Domain Whois record Queried whois.internic.net with dom st3gaming.com... Domain Name: ST3GAMING.COM Registrar: NEW DREAM NETWORK, LLC Whois Server: whois.dreamhost.com Referral URL: http://www.dreamhost.com Name Server: NS1.DREAMHOST.COM Name Server: NS2.DREAMHOST.COM Name Server: NS3.DREAMHOST.COM Status: ok Updated Date: 19-nov-2009 Creation Date: 18-nov-2008 Expiration Date: 18-nov-2010 Last update of whois database: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:54:18 UTC Queried whois.dreamhost.com with st3gaming.com... Legal Stuff: The information in DreamHost's whois database is to be used for informational purposes only, and to obtain information on a domain name registration. DreamHost does not guarantee its accuracy. You are not authorized to query or access DreamHost's whois database using high-volume, automated means without written permission from DreamHost. You are not authorized to query or access DreamHost's whois database in order to facilitate illegal activities, or to facilitate the use of unsolicited bulk email, telephone, or facsimile communications. You are not authorized to collect, repackage, or redistribute the information in DreamHost's whois database. DreamHost may, at its sole discretion, restrict your access to the whois database at any time, with or without notice. DreamHost may modify these Terms of Service at any time, with or without notice. +++ Domain Name: st3gaming.com Registrant Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Administrative Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Technical Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Billing Contact: st3gaming.com Private Registrant st3gaming@proxy.dreamhost.com A Happy DreamHost Customer 417 Associated Rd #324 Brea, CA 92821 US +1.2139471032 Record created on 2008-11-18 20:08:30. Record expires on 2010-11-18 20:08:30. Domain servers in listed order: ns1.dreamhost.com ns2.dreamhost.com ns3.dreamhost.com DreamHost whois server terms of service: http://whois.dreamhost.com/terms.html Get a 14-day free trial of unlimited everything from DreamHost Web Hosting. Includes A FREE domain registration! http://www.dreamhost.com/ Use promotional code WHOIS for an additional $50 off any plan! Network Whois record Queried whois.arin.net
Re: [hlds] hlds Digest, Vol 19, Issue 71
I third this. It doesn't take much to read that message...really... Original Message Subject: Re: [hlds] hlds Digest, Vol 19, Issue 71 From: turb0z tur...@undergamer.com To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: 9/24/2009 6:52 PM Rage Less, Brain More. I love it. Pure Gold. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of TheGeekLord Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:37 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] hlds Digest, Vol 19, Issue 71 Why not pay more attention to in the top of the message where it says To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds;? Rage less, Brain more. -TheGeekLord Nicholas wrote: Stop sending me this crap please. You send it every five minutes. Stop. Now. - Original Message - From: hlds-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: hlds Digest, Vol 19, Issue 71 Send hlds mailing list submissions to hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to hlds-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com You can reach the person managing the list at hlds-ow...@list.valvesoftware.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of hlds digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Server not being listed in the master server browser (Kyle Sanderson) 2. Re: L4D Round Ending Exploit (Maximilian L.) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:35:30 -0700 From: Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Server not being listed in the master server browser To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Message-ID: a7fe91400909231635r26a2832j328303ec4dc49...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Oh sorry, I'm 207.6.58.xx (I'm in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada). Kyle. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: I meant the ip address of your own internet connection. Ie, go to revealip.com -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:42 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Server not being listed in the master server browser Do you mean inside my network Voogru? I have one more ip going up from that. Would it be in my best interest to grab a 69.xxx.xxx.xxx block and use that? Ook can see my server after he gets a list of 21291 IPs he can find me (I'm assuming I was added around the 18000 mark.) Kyle. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: What is your local IP address? The IP of your server is high up there, if you're in the US, it may take a while before servers with the 200+ octet get sent to you. Valve's master server uses the octets of the IP as a crappy version of GeoIP. They sent you servers closest to your own octet first. I'd really wish they would go ahead and just throw up a copy of GeoIP country and send you servers from your own country first and be done with it :P - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ook Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:31 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Server not being listed in the master server browser I'm using a WRT54G v2 or v3, running tomato also. I love it. Alchemy and Talisman caused me all kinds of problems. I switched to Tomato, and surprise surprise all of my ftp problems went away. Stable, fast, does what I need and then some. AND...with this router, running the same firmware you are running, I see you (along with 21290 other CS servers) on the Steam Internet tab. /shameless plug for tomato firmware :-) I'm in a little white trash town about a half hour south of Salem, Oregon, about 10 miles off of I-5. ISP is Centel. They have an office about 5 blocks from my place, and I have a 10mbps/768kbps DSL line that never hiccups. I made sure my filters were all off, Game set to Counter-Strike: Source, refresh all. Loads dog slow. Go eat dinner. Come back. 21291 servers loaded. Scroll way down. And there you are, Zombie Mod v2 :: PlagueFest.com :: Unlimited Ammo - FastDL. You ping at about 60 or so. It takes a few minutes
Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
Aaron, While you have a good thought, that won't workthe list is controlled by email addresses...you could remove a person/email, but they could rejoin with a different one...making the initial removal pointless. People just need to grow up and actually act like adults... *shrugs* Just my $0.02. -Michael Aaron Rapp wrote: Valve...It would be very nice for you to get involved here. Remove these people from the list and implement moderators. It would do a huge amount of good to the quality of feedback you would get from this list. Aaron Rapp -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose Oooor I can just sit here and see how long it takes for you to pull out of your drunken stuper. You were the one to start this and I am quite the stubborn ass when it comes to pricks like you. Maybe I should just unsubscribe from this list since its you waving your dick around at everyone that doesn't join your cool club. Oh pease can I become a self centered prick like you? Please? On Apr 30, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote: Well , when you unsubscribe, can you take sleeper with you too? On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM, f0rkz h...@f0rkznet.net wrote: Seeing as all you do is sit on here and bitch, yeah I am the real girl. I don't even know why I subscribe to the Win32 lists seems nothing but bullshit flying around. Mostly from your mouth. On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote: Yeah, im sorry F0rkz, your a decent girl and i dont wanna hurt your feelings. You and sleeper make a great couple. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds f0rkz f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds f0rkz f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Fake Steam Site
Reported to google and hostmaster. Nephyrin Zey wrote: You could always do both... - Neph On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Daniell Reinhardt crypto...@cryptodan.com wrote: Because there are other browsers out that, and removing the site from the internet is a far better solution. The Firefox and IE Anti-phishing measures is a bandaid fix to a bigger problem. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server Bandwidth Help?
is it 500kbps, or 500KBps? Makes a huge difference. If it's 500kbps - mine would die at 4.at 500KBps, probably 16-20 if not more. Original Message Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Bandwidth Help? From: Anthal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: 8/24/2008 11:00 PM Probably no more than 6, if that many. Jake E wrote: How many people could fit on a server with a 500kbps upstream? Custom Files = YES. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
