Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
people will always complain, thats the nature of the beast. instaspawn blows imho... so many times you die and you don't even see who or what kill you and from where, lol. 5 seconds is just about perfect... see... i complained - Original Message From: chillicane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:50:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update people complain about the 3-5 seconds you get on disabled respawn timers, hence the vast number of InstaSpawn plugins available. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lol respawn times. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:35 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update i think you missed it. yes the other types have spawn timers, but with arena having no respawns (by the sounds of it) i can only imagine the complaining because they died now have to wait a few mins to spawn for the next round. its hard enough for them to wait the 20 secs on the default spawns when there unlucky Daron Dodd wrote: thats only on arena maps like ctf and pl and cp maps On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:46 PM, SakeFox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not impressed by it. will probably run it till the heavy patch rush wears off then turn them back off. people already complain enough about the spawn times, i can't imagine that they will say about these. chillicane wrote: looks to me like TF2-CS:S. If im reading this right; can you imagine everyone dead waiting for 2 spys to kill each other or the time to run out? The new color scheme/skybox on Lumberyard however looks amazing! On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Jonah Hirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And 3 revamped maps. Is it just me or does this like enhanced Sudden Death Patrick Shelley wrote: Arena Mode + 2 new maps! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/arena.htm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Chillidog Systems - Re-inventing the wheel for the sake of all humanity! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
i agree Robert, thats what im sticking to atm On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: people will always complain, thats the nature of the beast. instaspawn blows imho... so many times you die and you don't even see who or what kill you and from where, lol. 5 seconds is just about perfect... see... i complained - Original Message From: chillicane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:50:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update people complain about the 3-5 seconds you get on disabled respawn timers, hence the vast number of InstaSpawn plugins available. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lol respawn times. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:35 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update i think you missed it. yes the other types have spawn timers, but with arena having no respawns (by the sounds of it) i can only imagine the complaining because they died now have to wait a few mins to spawn for the next round. its hard enough for them to wait the 20 secs on the default spawns when there unlucky Daron Dodd wrote: thats only on arena maps like ctf and pl and cp maps On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:46 PM, SakeFox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not impressed by it. will probably run it till the heavy patch rush wears off then turn them back off. people already complain enough about the spawn times, i can't imagine that they will say about these. chillicane wrote: looks to me like TF2-CS:S. If im reading this right; can you imagine everyone dead waiting for 2 spys to kill each other or the time to run out? The new color scheme/skybox on Lumberyard however looks amazing! On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Jonah Hirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And 3 revamped maps. Is it just me or does this like enhanced Sudden Death Patrick Shelley wrote: Arena Mode + 2 new maps! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/arena.htm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Chillidog Systems - Re-inventing the wheel for the sake of all humanity! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Chillidog Systems - Re-inventing the wheel for the sake of all humanity! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
looks to me like TF2-CS:S. If im reading this right; can you imagine everyone dead waiting for 2 spys to kill each other or the time to run out? The new color scheme/skybox on Lumberyard however looks amazing! On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Jonah Hirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And 3 revamped maps. Is it just me or does this like enhanced Sudden Death Patrick Shelley wrote: Arena Mode + 2 new maps! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/arena.htm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Chillidog Systems - Re-inventing the wheel for the sake of all humanity! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
i'm not impressed by it. will probably run it till the heavy patch rush wears off then turn them back off. people already complain enough about the spawn times, i can't imagine that they will say about these. chillicane wrote: looks to me like TF2-CS:S. If im reading this right; can you imagine everyone dead waiting for 2 spys to kill each other or the time to run out? The new color scheme/skybox on Lumberyard however looks amazing! On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Jonah Hirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And 3 revamped maps. Is it just me or does this like enhanced Sudden Death Patrick Shelley wrote: Arena Mode + 2 new maps! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/arena.htm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
thats only on arena maps like ctf and pl and cp maps On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:46 PM, SakeFox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not impressed by it. will probably run it till the heavy patch rush wears off then turn them back off. people already complain enough about the spawn times, i can't imagine that they will say about these. chillicane wrote: looks to me like TF2-CS:S. If im reading this right; can you imagine everyone dead waiting for 2 spys to kill each other or the time to run out? The new color scheme/skybox on Lumberyard however looks amazing! On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Jonah Hirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And 3 revamped maps. Is it just me or does this like enhanced Sudden Death Patrick Shelley wrote: Arena Mode + 2 new maps! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/arena.htm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
i think you missed it. yes the other types have spawn timers, but with arena having no respawns (by the sounds of it) i can only imagine the complaining because they died now have to wait a few mins to spawn for the next round. its hard enough for them to wait the 20 secs on the default spawns when there unlucky Daron Dodd wrote: thats only on arena maps like ctf and pl and cp maps On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:46 PM, SakeFox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not impressed by it. will probably run it till the heavy patch rush wears off then turn them back off. people already complain enough about the spawn times, i can't imagine that they will say about these. chillicane wrote: looks to me like TF2-CS:S. If im reading this right; can you imagine everyone dead waiting for 2 spys to kill each other or the time to run out? The new color scheme/skybox on Lumberyard however looks amazing! On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Jonah Hirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And 3 revamped maps. Is it just me or does this like enhanced Sudden Death Patrick Shelley wrote: Arena Mode + 2 new maps! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/arena.htm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
Lol respawn times. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:35 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update i think you missed it. yes the other types have spawn timers, but with arena having no respawns (by the sounds of it) i can only imagine the complaining because they died now have to wait a few mins to spawn for the next round. its hard enough for them to wait the 20 secs on the default spawns when there unlucky Daron Dodd wrote: thats only on arena maps like ctf and pl and cp maps On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:46 PM, SakeFox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not impressed by it. will probably run it till the heavy patch rush wears off then turn them back off. people already complain enough about the spawn times, i can't imagine that they will say about these. chillicane wrote: looks to me like TF2-CS:S. If im reading this right; can you imagine everyone dead waiting for 2 spys to kill each other or the time to run out? The new color scheme/skybox on Lumberyard however looks amazing! On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Jonah Hirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And 3 revamped maps. Is it just me or does this like enhanced Sudden Death Patrick Shelley wrote: Arena Mode + 2 new maps! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/arena.htm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
people complain about the 3-5 seconds you get on disabled respawn timers, hence the vast number of InstaSpawn plugins available. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lol respawn times. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:35 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update i think you missed it. yes the other types have spawn timers, but with arena having no respawns (by the sounds of it) i can only imagine the complaining because they died now have to wait a few mins to spawn for the next round. its hard enough for them to wait the 20 secs on the default spawns when there unlucky Daron Dodd wrote: thats only on arena maps like ctf and pl and cp maps On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:46 PM, SakeFox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not impressed by it. will probably run it till the heavy patch rush wears off then turn them back off. people already complain enough about the spawn times, i can't imagine that they will say about these. chillicane wrote: looks to me like TF2-CS:S. If im reading this right; can you imagine everyone dead waiting for 2 spys to kill each other or the time to run out? The new color scheme/skybox on Lumberyard however looks amazing! On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Jonah Hirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And 3 revamped maps. Is it just me or does this like enhanced Sudden Death Patrick Shelley wrote: Arena Mode + 2 new maps! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/arena.htm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Chillidog Systems - Re-inventing the wheel for the sake of all humanity! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
Totally agree Eric On 8/17/08, Eric van Beesten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure, but the achievements are part of the steamworks. I really think steamworks can more then implanted in tf2. How hard is it to filter bots for archievements? Every server that isn't standard is going to a custom tab.. but it is still possible to change settings to get archievements faster. I'm almost sure there are more reasons for not blocking from getting achievements on those achievementsboxes. I think that more of 50 procent of the fun is gone when a few seconds after the update everybody is walking with there new guns unlocked. You can ask yourself if using a file to unlock guns is part of cheating? But maybe I'm a too die-hard gamer... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens 1nsane Verzonden: zaterdag 16 augustus 2008 23:23 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update Half hour? 30 seconds... there are files floating around that unlock everything and apparently Valve is not stopping them :/. On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Eric van Beesten [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Btw, http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I see that we have a lot of archievementbox archievements: So expect a half hour after the release players are walking with all guns unlocked! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: vrijdag 15 augustus 2008 21:34 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update New Minigun: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/natascha.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/14 Yatin Vadhia [EMAIL PROTECTED] New PL map!! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/13 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I want to see the next Meet the .. Video - Original Message - From: 1nsane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
Well, you never know. They could surprise us with some new restrictions on (knock on wood) Tuesday... Patrick Shelley wrote: Totally agree Eric On 8/17/08, Eric van Beesten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure, but the achievements are part of the steamworks. I really think steamworks can more then implanted in tf2. How hard is it to filter bots for archievements? Every server that isn't standard is going to a custom tab.. but it is still possible to change settings to get archievements faster. I'm almost sure there are more reasons for not blocking from getting achievements on those achievementsboxes. I think that more of 50 procent of the fun is gone when a few seconds after the update everybody is walking with there new guns unlocked. You can ask yourself if using a file to unlock guns is part of cheating? But maybe I'm a too die-hard gamer... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens 1nsane Verzonden: zaterdag 16 augustus 2008 23:23 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update Half hour? 30 seconds... there are files floating around that unlock everything and apparently Valve is not stopping them :/. On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Eric van Beesten [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Btw, http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I see that we have a lot of archievementbox archievements: So expect a half hour after the release players are walking with all guns unlocked! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: vrijdag 15 augustus 2008 21:34 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update New Minigun: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/natascha.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/14 Yatin Vadhia [EMAIL PROTECTED] New PL map!! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/13 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I want to see the next Meet the .. Video - Original Message - From: 1nsane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
And unless you have the weapon listed on the weapons page people are not getting points for the kills. What we do is whenever updates are released goto an hlstatsx premium site and look for the new weapons, look at the url and it has the weapon name. Weapons are fine but some of the actions you cant track with the old hlstatsx script because it doesnt decypher the new logs(As it was made before OB engine) Really wish hlstatsx would release an updated version for public use, dont feel like paying for something we can run ourselves... Timothy Sadleir wrote: Well, it tracks the kills but doesn't add the weapons to the weapons page. I had to add the new ones myself as they came. Also, last time I just stole the weapon icons that the HLStatsX guys made and put it onto our webserver. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Anthal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been my experience that when new weapon types are released, they are automatically added to the database, but lack a position in the weapon statistics and have no icons. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
I'm in your boat. Hell if I'm going to pay $$ for the joy of running my own server just to have my entire stats system run by someone else and have to pay for it to boot. I like the experience in doing EVERYTHING myself. I'm sure the premium service is top notch but I'll take that trade off in order to run everything in house If you run hlstatsx yourself I'm sure you have already checked out www.lart2150.com Good setup and anyone that knows Perl is welcome to come help out. octodhd is a huge contributor to the project I would almost say he runs it now. Thank you!!! For someone that runs a lot of server the cost of the premium can add up -=- And unless you have the weapon listed on the weapons page people are not getting points for the kills. What we do is whenever updates are released goto an hlstatsx premium site and look for the new weapons, look at the url and it has the weapon name. Weapons are fine but some of the actions you cant track with the old hlstatsx script because it doesnt decypher the new logs(As it was made before OB engine) Really wish hlstatsx would release an updated version for public use, dont feel like paying for something we can run ourselves... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
Exactly what I did before. I just don't want to have to wait till other servers' HLStatsX are populated with kills of the new weapons. I also stole their image icons and put em in our webserver for associated weapons. On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:43 AM, [??R] The-/iller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And unless you have the weapon listed on the weapons page people are not getting points for the kills. What we do is whenever updates are released goto an hlstatsx premium site and look for the new weapons, look at the url and it has the weapon name. Weapons are fine but some of the actions you cant track with the old hlstatsx script because it doesnt decypher the new logs(As it was made before OB engine) Really wish hlstatsx would release an updated version for public use, dont feel like paying for something we can run ourselves... Timothy Sadleir wrote: Well, it tracks the kills but doesn't add the weapons to the weapons page. I had to add the new ones myself as they came. Also, last time I just stole the weapon icons that the HLStatsX guys made and put it onto our webserver. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Anthal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been my experience that when new weapon types are released, they are automatically added to the database, but lack a position in the weapon statistics and have no icons. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
I know they are planning on adding bot detection to remove using bots to get achievements. Don't know if this will happen on Tuesday, but here's to hoping :) -Original Message- From: Eric van Beesten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:32 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update Btw, http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I see that we have a lot of archievementbox archievements: So expect a half hour after the release players are walking with all guns unlocked! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
Why not try PsychoStats? It has a nice Sourcemod ingame reader plugin that can easily be altered for any features that it may lack and the web interface looks pretty good: http://tf2.lotusstats.com/ http://axlstfc.com/stats/ http://74.53.242.35/index.php http://cs.kharkov.ukrtel.net/ps3_css/index.php Psychostats site: http://www.psychostats.com/ And best of all... Free support is provided by the creator (who is ussualy quick to fix any problems) :D. On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Keeper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know they are planning on adding bot detection to remove using bots to get achievements. Don't know if this will happen on Tuesday, but here's to hoping :) -Original Message- From: Eric van Beesten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:32 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update Btw, http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I see that we have a lot of archievementbox archievements: So expect a half hour after the release players are walking with all guns unlocked! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
Btw, http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I see that we have a lot of archievementbox archievements: So expect a half hour after the release players are walking with all guns unlocked! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: vrijdag 15 augustus 2008 21:34 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update New Minigun: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/natascha.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/14 Yatin Vadhia [EMAIL PROTECTED] New PL map!! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/13 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I want to see the next Meet the .. Video - Original Message - From: 1nsane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3359 (20080815) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
Half hour? 30 seconds... there are files floating around that unlock everything and apparently Valve is not stopping them :/. On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Eric van Beesten [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Btw, http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I see that we have a lot of archievementbox archievements: So expect a half hour after the release players are walking with all guns unlocked! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: vrijdag 15 augustus 2008 21:34 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update New Minigun: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/natascha.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/14 Yatin Vadhia [EMAIL PROTECTED] New PL map!! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/13 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I want to see the next Meet the .. Video - Original Message - From: 1nsane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3359 (20080815) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
I'm not sure, but the achievements are part of the steamworks. I really think steamworks can more then implanted in tf2. How hard is it to filter bots for archievements? Every server that isn't standard is going to a custom tab.. but it is still possible to change settings to get archievements faster. I'm almost sure there are more reasons for not blocking from getting achievements on those achievementsboxes. I think that more of 50 procent of the fun is gone when a few seconds after the update everybody is walking with there new guns unlocked. You can ask yourself if using a file to unlock guns is part of cheating? But maybe I'm a too die-hard gamer... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens 1nsane Verzonden: zaterdag 16 augustus 2008 23:23 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update Half hour? 30 seconds... there are files floating around that unlock everything and apparently Valve is not stopping them :/. On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Eric van Beesten [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Btw, http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I see that we have a lot of archievementbox archievements: So expect a half hour after the release players are walking with all guns unlocked! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: vrijdag 15 augustus 2008 21:34 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update New Minigun: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/natascha.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/14 Yatin Vadhia [EMAIL PROTECTED] New PL map!! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/13 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I want to see the next Meet the .. Video - Original Message - From: 1nsane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
New Minigun: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/natascha.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/14 Yatin Vadhia [EMAIL PROTECTED] New PL map!! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/13 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I want to see the next Meet the .. Video - Original Message - From: 1nsane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
Ahhh poor sasha! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: vrijdag 15 augustus 2008 21:34 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update New Minigun: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/natascha.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/14 Yatin Vadhia [EMAIL PROTECTED] New PL map!! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/13 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I want to see the next Meet the .. Video - Original Message - From: 1nsane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3359 (20080815) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
Hey, can someone answer me this please? As soon as the update comes out I want to add all the new kill types to my HLStatsX for instance the last update had deflect_flare, deflect_promode, deflect_rocket, deflect_sticky, axtinguisher, flaregun, backburner and such. I know most people are registered with the HLStatsX guys but we've got our own database seperate from them. My question is how do you find out the implemented weapon kill signifiers without actually killing with them and looking in the console for the kill? Is it within the server .DLL or what? Thanks! On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Eric van Beesten [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Ahhh poor sasha! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: vrijdag 15 augustus 2008 21:34 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update New Minigun: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/natascha.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/14 Yatin Vadhia [EMAIL PROTECTED] New PL map!! http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/badwater.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/13 Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I want to see the next Meet the .. Video - Original Message - From: 1nsane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3359 (20080815) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
It's been my experience that when new weapon types are released, they are automatically added to the database, but lack a position in the weapon statistics and have no icons. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
Well, it tracks the kills but doesn't add the weapons to the weapons page. I had to add the new ones myself as they came. Also, last time I just stole the weapon icons that the HLStatsX guys made and put it onto our webserver. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Anthal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been my experience that when new weapon types are released, they are automatically added to the database, but lack a position in the weapon statistics and have no icons. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm I want to see the next Meet the .. Video - Original Message - From: 1nsane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
A new weapon http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/kgb.htm Regards Yatin 2008/8/13 Munra [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to see the next Meet the .. Video - Original Message - From: 1nsane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
I thought castle was good in version 3, but i think went kinda over board in changes in 4. It changed to much of the game flow. Eric van Beesten wrote: I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
Imo castle is not a good TF2 map which represents the TF2 map quality which is normally around (same goes for turbine btw). Cp_steel thought is a awesome map, and I already wondered why it wasn't included in the last update. The map is well textured, properly designed and has a awesome gameplay. Im delighted to see the map being released officially! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric van Beesten Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:00 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 4:59 PM ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update
I want to see the next Meet the .. Video - Original Message - From: 1nsane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update So the Arena mode has finally been announced? tf_arena_max_teamsize tf_arena_required_teamsize tf_arena_preround_time tf_arena_round_time tf_arena_force_class tf_arena_change_limit These cvars have been bugging me for a while now :D. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Ulbrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I love the maps that Vilepickle makes like CP_CASTLE. Another new one that he made that is great is DOM_CANALZONE_B3 which is an old school quakewars Team Fortress map. As for the update, I can't wait for it to come out as that is my main class. -Video Master From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:00:10 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] New Heavy Update I always think the next community map will be cp_castle. But I don't think valve is going to release it! If I'm not wrong valve is going to release a pl or ctf (because they just release a cp map). Because there aren't really good pl community maps around there it will be a ctf map. There are some good ctf maps around :) so guys suggest before we will hear it tomorrow :) [offtopic] Jason, can you wait with the update for 4 weeks ;) I'm on vacation then :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Yatin Vadhia Verzonden: dinsdag 12 augustus 2008 22:21 Aan: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Onderwerp: [hlds] New Heavy Update Just FYI, More info was posted on the offical TF2 Blog: http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Informatie __ Dit bericht is gecontroleerd door het NOD32 Antivirus Systeem. http://www.nod32.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
