RE: motherboard for 1U case
The Orbs are neat looking, but they don't cool all that well compared to others. Check this out: http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q2/010521/index.html As far as fan quality, I don't think Tom's goes into that much detail, but keep in mind, many times you do get what you pay for. List of high quality long life fans: NMB Nidec Sanyo Denki (San Ace, same thing) Panaflow (Panasonic) Oratek to name just a few.. StanTheMan TheHardwareFreak www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Eric Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case Well, what about more general-purpose coolers than those specifically for 1U use? What about for regular towers? I don't know what bearing brands they're using in these fans... I've heard things like Blue Orbs are cool for socket A CPU's, but... Eric (the Deacon remix) http://www.firekite.com -Original Message- From: Stan Hoeppner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case Cooler Master does have a life time warranty on their coolers, BUT, who wants to have to replace it when it fails, and takes the CPU with it? The thing I hate about Cooler Master units is that they use low grade ball bearing fans such as Moto1 and TopMotor. They don't have much longevity in my experience...about a year on a hot CPU before the heat absorbed by the bearings causes them to fail. Now, if you can find a cooler with a Nidec, NMB, Sanyo Denki, or Oratek fan on it, you're set. These puppies wont fail, unless you choke 'em with soot, and even that sometimes won't cause them to fail. I'd still like to find out who the cooler supplier is to GigaByte for that SR101 server, as it looks to be the ticket for 1U CPU cooling. StanTheMan TheHardwareFreak www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Phillip Przybla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case I know coolermaster makes some kind of low profile fan for a 1U case. That is what we use at my place of work. If I remember correctly they are good for ~1Gig P3. But the case we use has LOTS of forced air flow. Phil - Original Message - From: Stan Hoeppner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case The thing is you need to find one of those horizontal blower fans designed specifically for 1U cases. I haven't found them anywhere..but I haven't looked that hard. If you want to use a dual board with 1 CPU for now, and expand later, go with the pre built solution. A generic 1U case just isn't going to cut it in the air flow (cooling) department. If you're strictly going to go single CPU, you should be fine. A Duron at 750 to 1000Mhz should be able to handle 40 players easy enough, unless you're running a bunch of other shit too: hlstats, sql server, admin_mod, etc. BUT, you still need to find a good horizontal CPU cooler solution...I'll see what I can dig up. Then again, who knows what this upcoming HL and CS upgrade will do to min hardware req's. Your colo situation prompting this project? BTW, if you end up ditching the VP6 and dual 700s, how much you want for the combo? StanTheMan TheHardwareFreak www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: EnragedTech [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case The current server has a abit VP6 with dual P3-700. After checking the prices, it may be time to ditch the 700's. Found the sr101 1U and motherboard at a reseller for about a grand. Seems simpler to start over with a single cpu system now. Planning on running 2 games with 20 players each. Is it possible to buy a generic 1U case,P/S, mb, cpu and matching cooling fan for less than $500, and use the ram and drive from the old server. Would a amd duron 1.0 (morgan) have enough power? Thanks, Tom P. PS: I have a spair asus CUSL2 w/onboard vga, and a spair ECS K7S5A w/onboard LAN. - Original Message - From: HoundDawg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:25 PM Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case From: Stan Hoeppner [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the other list members said he
RE: motherboard for 1U case
Yeah, but it doesn't move enough air. They really need to list the CFM rating... Eric (the Deacon remix) http://www.firekite.com -Original Message- From: Ryan McCullough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 1:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case even has 2 speeds http://www.lowes.com/Lowes/product/productdetail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=37759-01 6317-10255 -Original Message- From: Eric Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case Heh, yeah, but they often go way the hell overboard with 6 fans stuck all in and on the case and liquid nitrogen running through the system or whatever :) I'm just looking for a good fan/heatsink combo I can trust to quietly keep the CPU at optimal temps. No overclocking, $45 fan clusters, etc... Just good, simple, This off-the-shelf fan was just plain the best performer :) I'll check out those sites, though. Thanks for the URL's... Eric (the Deacon remix) http://www.firekite.com -Original Message- From: Robert J Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case If you need cooling info, I'd suggest Sharky Extreme or HardOCP. They usually have good articles on cooling, especially HardOCP. www.sharkyextreme.com www.hardocp.com - Robert J Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -Original Message- From: Stan Hoeppner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case The Orbs are neat looking, but they don't cool all that well compared to others. Check this out: http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q2/010521/index.html As far as fan quality, I don't think Tom's goes into that much detail, but keep in mind, many times you do get what you pay for. List of high quality long life fans: NMB Nidec Sanyo Denki (San Ace, same thing) Panaflow (Panasonic) Oratek to name just a few.. StanTheMan TheHardwareFreak www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Eric Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case Well, what about more general-purpose coolers than those specifically for 1U use? What about for regular towers? I don't know what bearing brands they're using in these fans... I've heard things like Blue Orbs are cool for socket A CPU's, but... Eric (the Deacon remix) http://www.firekite.com -Original Message- From: Stan Hoeppner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case Cooler Master does have a life time warranty on their coolers, BUT, who wants to have to replace it when it fails, and takes the CPU with it? The thing I hate about Cooler Master units is that they use low grade ball bearing fans such as Moto1 and TopMotor. They don't have much longevity in my experience...about a year on a hot CPU before the heat absorbed by the bearings causes them to fail. Now, if you can find a cooler with a Nidec, NMB, Sanyo Denki, or Oratek fan on it, you're set. These puppies wont fail, unless you choke 'em with soot, and even that sometimes won't cause them to fail. I'd still like to find out who the cooler supplier is to GigaByte for that SR101 server, as it looks to be the ticket for 1U CPU cooling. StanTheMan TheHardwareFreak www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Phillip Przybla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case I know coolermaster makes some kind of low profile fan for a 1U case. That is what we use at my place of work. If I remember correctly they are good for ~1Gig P3. But the case we use has LOTS of forced air flow. Phil - Original Message - From: Stan Hoeppner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case The thing is you need to find one of those horizontal blower fans designed specifically for 1U cases. I haven't found them anywhere..but I haven't looked that hard. If you want to use a dual board with 1 CPU for now, and expand
Re: motherboard for 1U case
From: Stan Hoeppner [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the other list members said he purchased one of these for a song, and it looks like a good solution as well: http://www.gigabytenetworking.com/info/GBT_SR101.asp Again, you'll need to locate a reseller. heh, that would be me. And actually Stan, yes it does work well and I was able to get it without going through all that reseller stuff. If you try and can't email me privately and I'll hook you up. The server is running perfect and I still think that it was the best deal and the best 1U layout I could find. HoundDawg http://www.phpGamingSite.com http://www.unitedadmins.com http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp
Re: motherboard for 1U case
The current server has a abit VP6 with dual P3-700. After checking the prices, it may be time to ditch the 700's. Found the sr101 1U and motherboard at a reseller for about a grand. Seems simpler to start over with a single cpu system now. Planning on running 2 games with 20 players each. Is it possible to buy a generic 1U case,P/S, mb, cpu and matching cooling fan for less than $500, and use the ram and drive from the old server. Would a amd duron 1.0 (morgan) have enough power? Thanks, Tom P. PS: I have a spair asus CUSL2 w/onboard vga, and a spair ECS K7S5A w/onboard LAN. - Original Message - From: HoundDawg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:25 PM Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case From: Stan Hoeppner [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the other list members said he purchased one of these for a song, and it looks like a good solution as well: http://www.gigabytenetworking.com/info/GBT_SR101.asp Again, you'll need to locate a reseller. heh, that would be me. And actually Stan, yes it does work well and I was able to get it without going through all that reseller stuff. If you try and can't email me privately and I'll hook you up. The server is running perfect and I still think that it was the best deal and the best 1U layout I could find. HoundDawg http://www.phpGamingSite.com http://www.unitedadmins.com http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp
RE: motherboard for 1U case
Are you suggesting dumping a dual P3-700 box for a single Duron 1-gig, on which you're going to be running two 20-player servers? That seems counter-productive... Eric (the Deacon remix) http://www.firekite.com -Original Message- From: EnragedTech [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case The current server has a abit VP6 with dual P3-700. After checking the prices, it may be time to ditch the 700's. Found the sr101 1U and motherboard at a reseller for about a grand. Seems simpler to start over with a single cpu system now. Planning on running 2 games with 20 players each. Is it possible to buy a generic 1U case,P/S, mb, cpu and matching cooling fan for less than $500, and use the ram and drive from the old server. Would a amd duron 1.0 (morgan) have enough power? Thanks, Tom P. PS: I have a spair asus CUSL2 w/onboard vga, and a spair ECS K7S5A w/onboard LAN. - Original Message - From: HoundDawg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:25 PM Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case From: Stan Hoeppner [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the other list members said he purchased one of these for a song, and it looks like a good solution as well: http://www.gigabytenetworking.com/info/GBT_SR101.asp Again, you'll need to locate a reseller. heh, that would be me. And actually Stan, yes it does work well and I was able to get it without going through all that reseller stuff. If you try and can't email me privately and I'll hook you up. The server is running perfect and I still think that it was the best deal and the best 1U layout I could find. HoundDawg http://www.phpGamingSite.com http://www.unitedadmins.com http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp
Re: motherboard for 1U case
Thanks for all the info guys. Still looking into it. Found some 1U cpu heatsink/fans. http://www.gtweb.net/hw125.html http://www.gtweb.net/hw129.html Thank again, Tom P. - Original Message - From: Stan Hoeppner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 6:44 AM Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case The thing is you need to find one of those horizontal blower fans designed specifically for 1U cases. I haven't found them anywhere..but I haven't looked that hard. If you want to use a dual board with 1 CPU for now, and expand later, go with the pre built solution. A generic 1U case just isn't going to cut it in the air flow (cooling) department. If you're strictly going to go single CPU, you should be fine. A Duron at 750 to 1000Mhz should be able to handle 40 players easy enough, unless you're running a bunch of other shit too: hlstats, sql server, admin_mod, etc. BUT, you still need to find a good horizontal CPU cooler solution...I'll see what I can dig up. Then again, who knows what this upcoming HL and CS upgrade will do to min hardware req's. Your colo situation prompting this project? BTW, if you end up ditching the VP6 and dual 700s, how much you want for the combo? StanTheMan TheHardwareFreak www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: EnragedTech [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case The current server has a abit VP6 with dual P3-700. After checking the prices, it may be time to ditch the 700's. Found the sr101 1U and motherboard at a reseller for about a grand. Seems simpler to start over with a single cpu system now. Planning on running 2 games with 20 players each. Is it possible to buy a generic 1U case,P/S, mb, cpu and matching cooling fan for less than $500, and use the ram and drive from the old server. Would a amd duron 1.0 (morgan) have enough power? Thanks, Tom P. PS: I have a spair asus CUSL2 w/onboard vga, and a spair ECS K7S5A w/onboard LAN. - Original Message - From: HoundDawg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:25 PM Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case From: Stan Hoeppner [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of the other list members said he purchased one of these for a song, and it looks like a good solution as well: http://www.gigabytenetworking.com/info/GBT_SR101.asp Again, you'll need to locate a reseller. heh, that would be me. And actually Stan, yes it does work well and I was able to get it without going through all that reseller stuff. If you try and can't email me privately and I'll hook you up. The server is running perfect and I still think that it was the best deal and the best 1U layout I could find. HoundDawg http://www.phpGamingSite.com http://www.unitedadmins.com http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp
