Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo

2012-02-15 Thread Jesse Porter
Allegedly it closes some item dup exploits. Dunno about the stability,
though.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Sebastian Iskra seabas...@gmail.comwrote:

 Why is all trading in-game now done with the more glitchy, more
 unstable, more annoying version of the steam trading window. I can't
 get ANY trading done because the window keeps crashing on me. Anyone
 else having issues with this?


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Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo

2012-02-15 Thread 1nsane
Most of the time for me the page doesn't even bother loading. Just stays
dark grey until session timed out pops up.

This will make trading hard :(.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Jesse Porter reacherg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Allegedly it closes some item dup exploits. Dunno about the stability,
 though.


 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Sebastian Iskra seabas...@gmail.comwrote:

 Why is all trading in-game now done with the more glitchy, more
 unstable, more annoying version of the steam trading window. I can't
 get ANY trading done because the window keeps crashing on me. Anyone
 else having issues with this?


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Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo

2012-02-15 Thread Valentin G.
Same here. I have yet to complete a stable steam trade. TF2 trading
was flawless for the most part.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:58 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
 Atleast it feels sluggish, the ingame one was faster but i assume they will
 rewrite the whole frontend eventually. Atleast it lacks features that could
 be usefull to show.

 -ics

 15.2.2012 20:51, Jesse Porter kirjoitti:

 Allegedly it closes some item dup exploits. Dunno about the stability,
 though.

 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Sebastian Iskra seabas...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Why is all trading in-game now done with the more glitchy, more
 unstable, more annoying version of the steam trading window. I can't
 get ANY trading done because the window keeps crashing on me. Anyone
 else having issues with this?



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Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo

2012-02-15 Thread Lyrai
The main thing I want out of Steam Trading is being able to organize things
like they are in your backpack, rather than sorted by when you got them.
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Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo

2012-02-15 Thread Noel
Frankly I'd settle for not getting that spammy green There is now a
trading system! message at the top of every private message I open with
any of my Steam friends, regardless of how many times I click 'x' to close
it.

I don't want to use the trading system, I could give a fuck about it, does
that mean I am stuck with that notification for eternity?  Obviously this
is an extremely minor foible but I think this and other issues indicate a
certain (low) level of polish on the current implementation of the trading
system.

tl;dr  It's 'not done' and that's that.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Lyrai lyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 The main thing I want out of Steam Trading is being able to organize
 things like they are in your backpack, rather than sorted by when you got
 them.

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Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo

2012-02-15 Thread Gavin Langdon
I do not see a trading system message in my chat window every time I open a
window. Your client probably has some glitch or other that's keeping that
from going away.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Noel phre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Frankly I'd settle for not getting that spammy green There is now a
 trading system! message at the top of every private message I open with
 any of my Steam friends, regardless of how many times I click 'x' to close
 it.

 I don't want to use the trading system, I could give a fuck about it, does
 that mean I am stuck with that notification for eternity?  Obviously this
 is an extremely minor foible but I think this and other issues indicate a
 certain (low) level of polish on the current implementation of the trading
 system.

 tl;dr  It's 'not done' and that's that.

 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Lyrai lyr...@gmail.com wrote:

 The main thing I want out of Steam Trading is being able to organize
 things like they are in your backpack, rather than sorted by when you got
 them.

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Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo

2012-02-15 Thread Mart-Jan Reeuwijk


Clean your steam install (exit steam, delete all but the steamapps folder and 
steam.exe file, start steam.exe, login etc), deal once more with the green 
there is now a trading blah, and it will be over.

if you want to keep your favorites  play history, save the file: 
.\steam\userdata\xxx\7\remote\serverbrowser_hist.vdf
where xxx = random numbers per account.



For trading, indeed, need to be able to match the order from the backpack 
rather then Item ID, to prevent trading the wrong items.

But still, rather had the old in-game trading, for if the steam trading was 
down or just doesn't work (black screen, timeout, w/e), you had at least 
something that WORKED (and fast). Steam trading fails on me more then half the 
times. Also, Steam trading should give more info about the items, for instance 
its often hard to see if a item is painted with Team Spirit or some other team 
color, or for example white and 216-xx-216 w/e. Also, if your negating and 
dragging a bunch of items, often after couple minutes been busy, the trade just 
times out.

And I hate to have the steam overlay enabled to trade in-game :S I had that 
off. 

The inventory advanced search has options for untradable items, but not for 
uncraftable, those advanced search options would be served as well in the trade 
window, as well as a clear marking (by color) for uncraftable's.




 From: Noel phre...@gmail.com
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hlds@list.valvesoftware.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2012, 21:35
Subject: Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo
 

Frankly I'd settle for not getting that spammy green There is now a trading 
system! message at the top of every private message I open with any of my 
Steam friends, regardless of how many times I click 'x' to close it.


I don't want to use the trading system, I could give a fuck about it, does 
that mean I am stuck with that notification for eternity?  Obviously this is 
an extremely minor foible but I think this and other issues indicate a certain 
(low) level of polish on the current implementation of the trading system.


tl;dr  It's 'not done' and that's that.


On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Lyrai lyr...@gmail.com wrote:

The main thing I want out of Steam Trading is being able to organize things 
like they are in your backpack, rather than sorted by when you got them.

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Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo

2012-02-15 Thread Mart-Jan Reeuwijk
It was also MUCH faster, I hear on a lot of trade servers that also do events 
that its becoming impossible to do (bigger) events on them, due the huge time 
it will takes to gather the bets from all participants by the admins. With the 
old trade system that was done in under 20 seconds per participant, and with 
the current that is often over 2 minutes per participant. With a crowd of 30 
people on the server it takes an hour to gather up, not to speak about the 
admin then having to swap so many times to the steam overlay that by the time 
he's ready, he's crashed and that he cant keep count well that slow (players 
move about, drop off server, etc). 

In combination with the steam trading failing a lot, this will be the end for 
event-servers. 

With the old trade system, admins pressed ESC, could handle the crowd while the 
particpant was looking for the items, and stuff went way faster. Also, in-game 
trade at least worked. 




 From: Valentin G. nextra...@googlemail.com
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hlds@list.valvesoftware.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2012, 20:22
Subject: Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo
 
Same here. I have yet to complete a stable steam trade. TF2 trading
was flawless for the most part.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:58 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
 Atleast it feels sluggish, the ingame one was faster but i assume they will
 rewrite the whole frontend eventually. Atleast it lacks features that could
 be usefull to show.

 -ics

 15.2.2012 20:51, Jesse Porter kirjoitti:

 Allegedly it closes some item dup exploits. Dunno about the stability,
 though.

 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Sebastian Iskra seabas...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Why is all trading in-game now done with the more glitchy, more
 unstable, more annoying version of the steam trading window. I can't
 get ANY trading done because the window keeps crashing on me. Anyone
 else having issues with this?



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Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo

2012-02-15 Thread Nathanael Havez
I will just say one thing: Valve, get the old trading system back!

Natha

Le 15 févr. 2012 à 22:18, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk a écrit :

 It was also MUCH faster, I hear on a lot of trade servers that also do events 
 that its becoming impossible to do (bigger) events on them, due the huge time 
 it will takes to gather the bets from all participants by the admins. With 
 the old trade system that was done in under 20 seconds per participant, and 
 with the current that is often over 2 minutes per participant. With a crowd 
 of 30 people on the server it takes an hour to gather up, not to speak about 
 the admin then having to swap so many times to the steam overlay that by the 
 time he's ready, he's crashed and that he cant keep count well that slow 
 (players move about, drop off server, etc). 
 
 In combination with the steam trading failing a lot, this will be the end for 
 event-servers. 
 
 With the old trade system, admins pressed ESC, could handle the crowd while 
 the particpant was looking for the items, and stuff went way faster. Also, 
 in-game trade at least worked. 
 
 From: Valentin G. nextra...@googlemail.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
 hlds@list.valvesoftware.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2012, 20:22
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo
 
 Same here. I have yet to complete a stable steam trade. TF2 trading
 was flawless for the most part.
 
 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:58 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
  Atleast it feels sluggish, the ingame one was faster but i assume they will
  rewrite the whole frontend eventually. Atleast it lacks features that could
  be usefull to show.
 
  -ics
 
  15.2.2012 20:51, Jesse Porter kirjoitti:
 
  Allegedly it closes some item dup exploits. Dunno about the stability,
  though.
 
  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Sebastian Iskra seabas...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Why is all trading in-game now done with the more glitchy, more
  unstable, more annoying version of the steam trading window. I can't
  get ANY trading done because the window keeps crashing on me. Anyone
  else having issues with this?
 
 
 
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Re: [hlds] Localization file mumbo jumbo

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Wrennall
OH DEAR GOD YES
WHY THE FECK ARE THEY STILL NOT SORTED

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