Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-12 Thread Marco Padovan
We have private tf2 servers eating 1200mb of ram...

Such an high memory usage isn't due to (not) statically linked
libraries... but it's caused by bugged source tv the is leaking so much
ram ...

Il 12/08/2011 03:53, Jesse Molina ha scritto:

 Before mutli-core CPUs became prevalent, memory usage probably wasn't
 much of a concern, but now it is, because you can stack so many more
 srcds servers on a single host.

 I bought a cheap 6-core AMD CPU for under $200 and run about eight
 public srcds servers on it, and a couple extra private/test servers. 
 It has 4GB of RAM right now, but I may need more soon.  Some of our
 TF2 services are taking up 500MB each.



 Carl wrote:
 I guess this is a dumb question, but why doesn't Valve statically link
 against the libraries they use? Wouldn't that solve the problem at a
 slight overhead in memory for server admins?

 On 8/11/2011 7:51 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
 No Orange Box update today. The one we wanted to release includes new
 steam binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so. Many
 older linux distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs,
 and they aren't available simply by installing a package. So releasing
 it as is would be very disruptive. Figuring out the best way to
 package it to create minimum disruption, and get it tested, is taking
 longer than expected.

 Your humble servant,
 - Fletch
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Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-12 Thread daniel jokiaho
restart?
On 12 Aug 2011 13:59, Marco Padovan e...@evcz.tk wrote:
 We have private tf2 servers eating 1200mb of ram...

 Such an high memory usage isn't due to (not) statically linked
 libraries... but it's caused by bugged source tv the is leaking so much
 ram ...

 Il 12/08/2011 03:53, Jesse Molina ha scritto:

 Before mutli-core CPUs became prevalent, memory usage probably wasn't
 much of a concern, but now it is, because you can stack so many more
 srcds servers on a single host.

 I bought a cheap 6-core AMD CPU for under $200 and run about eight
 public srcds servers on it, and a couple extra private/test servers.
 It has 4GB of RAM right now, but I may need more soon. Some of our
 TF2 services are taking up 500MB each.



 Carl wrote:
 I guess this is a dumb question, but why doesn't Valve statically link
 against the libraries they use? Wouldn't that solve the problem at a
 slight overhead in memory for server admins?

 On 8/11/2011 7:51 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
 No Orange Box update today. The one we wanted to release includes new
 steam binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so. Many
 older linux distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs,
 and they aren't available simply by installing a package. So releasing
 it as is would be very disruptive. Figuring out the best way to
 package it to create minimum disruption, and get it tested, is taking
 longer than expected.

 Your humble servant,
 - Fletch
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Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-12 Thread Marcel
Please don't break CentOS 5.6. I'm pretty sure many hosters use this 
distro. Upgrading to CentOS 6 is afaik not possible and a 
re-installation is a pain in the ass!


On 08/12/2011 01:51 AM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:

No Orange Box update today.  The one we wanted to release includes new steam 
binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so.  Many older linux 
distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs, and they aren't 
available simply by installing a package.  So releasing it as is would be very 
disruptive.  Figuring out the best way to package it to create minimum 
disruption, and get it tested, is taking longer than expected.

Your humble servant,
- Fletch



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Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-12 Thread Yuki
Are we going to be seeing an update tonight or will it be after the weekend?

On 12 August 2011 21:15, Marcel hlds_li...@vermasslt.de wrote:

 Please don't break CentOS 5.6. I'm pretty sure many hosters use this
 distro. Upgrading to CentOS 6 is afaik not possible and a re-installation is
 a pain in the ass!


 On 08/12/2011 01:51 AM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:

 No Orange Box update today.  The one we wanted to release includes new
 steam binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so.  Many older
 linux distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs, and they
 aren't available simply by installing a package.  So releasing it as is
 would be very disruptive.  Figuring out the best way to package it to create
 minimum disruption, and get it tested, is taking longer than expected.

 Your humble servant,
 - Fletch



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Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-12 Thread Ross Bemrose
I'm hoping post-weekend.  I remember what happened with previous Friday
updates.  The Linux vphysics.so issue from a few weeks ago comes readily to
mind.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Yuki d...@dazzozo.com wrote:

 Are we going to be seeing an update tonight or will it be after the
 weekend?

 On 12 August 2011 21:15, Marcel hlds_li...@vermasslt.de wrote:

  Please don't break CentOS 5.6. I'm pretty sure many hosters use this
  distro. Upgrading to CentOS 6 is afaik not possible and a re-installation
 is
  a pain in the ass!
 
 
  On 08/12/2011 01:51 AM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
 
  No Orange Box update today.  The one we wanted to release includes new
  steam binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so.  Many
 older
  linux distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs, and
 they
  aren't available simply by installing a package.  So releasing it as is
  would be very disruptive.  Figuring out the best way to package it to
 create
  minimum disruption, and get it tested, is taking longer than expected.
 
  Your humble servant,
  - Fletch
 
 
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-12 Thread Bajdechi Nightbox Alexandru
Well the crashes still occurs so this update could have been a fix for the
weekend. (or not)

2011/8/12 Ross Bemrose rbemr...@vgmusic.com

 I'm hoping post-weekend.  I remember what happened with previous Friday
 updates.  The Linux vphysics.so issue from a few weeks ago comes readily to
 mind.

 On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Yuki d...@dazzozo.com wrote:

  Are we going to be seeing an update tonight or will it be after the
  weekend?
 
  On 12 August 2011 21:15, Marcel hlds_li...@vermasslt.de wrote:
 
   Please don't break CentOS 5.6. I'm pretty sure many hosters use this
   distro. Upgrading to CentOS 6 is afaik not possible and a
 re-installation
  is
   a pain in the ass!
  
  
   On 08/12/2011 01:51 AM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
  
   No Orange Box update today.  The one we wanted to release includes new
   steam binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so.  Many
  older
   linux distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs, and
  they
   aren't available simply by installing a package.  So releasing it as
 is
   would be very disruptive.  Figuring out the best way to package it to
  create
   minimum disruption, and get it tested, is taking longer than expected.
  
   Your humble servant,
   - Fletch
  
  
  
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[hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-12 Thread molnár lászló
Few Mb of ram usage in + is nothing compared to the Source TV leaking 1-2Gb of 
ram :/

Flethcer please give us some feedback if you are working on the memory leak 
problem.

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[hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-11 Thread Fletcher Dunn
No Orange Box update today.  The one we wanted to release includes new steam 
binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so.  Many older linux 
distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs, and they aren't 
available simply by installing a package.  So releasing it as is would be very 
disruptive.  Figuring out the best way to package it to create minimum 
disruption, and get it tested, is taking longer than expected.

Your humble servant,
- Fletch
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Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-11 Thread Oskar Levin
It's great that you have addressed the issue and found a solution. Take your
time (not too long, though) to release this fix. It's important.

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Ämne: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

No Orange Box update today.  The one we wanted to release includes new steam
binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so.  Many older linux
distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs, and they aren't
available simply by installing a package.  So releasing it as is would be
very disruptive.  Figuring out the best way to package it to create minimum
disruption, and get it tested, is taking longer than expected.

Your humble servant,
- Fletch
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Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-11 Thread Kyle Sanderson
 and get it tested

Thank you.
Kyle.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Fletcher Dunn
fletch...@valvesoftware.comwrote:

 No Orange Box update today.  The one we wanted to release includes new
 steam binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so.  Many older
 linux distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs, and they
 aren't available simply by installing a package.  So releasing it as is
 would be very disruptive.  Figuring out the best way to package it to create
 minimum disruption, and get it tested, is taking longer than expected.

 Your humble servant,
 - Fletch
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Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-11 Thread Michael
I must say the increase in official valve responses on the lists as of late
is quite refreshing. I hope it holds up, and thanks for the update Fletch.

~ Michael

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Fletcher Dunn
fletch...@valvesoftware.comwrote:

 No Orange Box update today.  The one we wanted to release includes new
 steam binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so.  Many older
 linux distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs, and they
 aren't available simply by installing a package.  So releasing it as is
 would be very disruptive.  Figuring out the best way to package it to create
 minimum disruption, and get it tested, is taking longer than expected.

 Your humble servant,
 - Fletch
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Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-11 Thread Carl
I guess this is a dumb question, but why doesn't Valve statically link 
against the libraries they use?  Wouldn't that solve the problem at a 
slight overhead in memory for server admins?


On 8/11/2011 7:51 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:

No Orange Box update today.  The one we wanted to release includes new steam 
binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so.  Many older linux 
distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs, and they aren't 
available simply by installing a package.  So releasing it as is would be very 
disruptive.  Figuring out the best way to package it to create minimum 
disruption, and get it tested, is taking longer than expected.

Your humble servant,
- Fletch
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Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-11 Thread Jesse Molina


Before mutli-core CPUs became prevalent, memory usage probably wasn't 
much of a concern, but now it is, because you can stack so many more 
srcds servers on a single host.


I bought a cheap 6-core AMD CPU for under $200 and run about eight 
public srcds servers on it, and a couple extra private/test servers.  It 
has 4GB of RAM right now, but I may need more soon.  Some of our TF2 
services are taking up 500MB each.




Carl wrote:

I guess this is a dumb question, but why doesn't Valve statically link
against the libraries they use? Wouldn't that solve the problem at a
slight overhead in memory for server admins?

On 8/11/2011 7:51 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:

No Orange Box update today. The one we wanted to release includes new
steam binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so. Many
older linux distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs,
and they aren't available simply by installing a package. So releasing
it as is would be very disruptive. Figuring out the best way to
package it to create minimum disruption, and get it tested, is taking
longer than expected.

Your humble servant,
- Fletch
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Re: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today

2011-08-11 Thread Mike jons

Does this mean it will be a required update when you guys do end up releasing 
it? Thanks

 From: fletch...@valvesoftware.com
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; h...@list.valvesoftware.com
 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:51:52 +
 Subject: [hlds_linux] No orangebox update today
 
 No Orange Box update today.  The one we wanted to release includes new steam 
 binaries, and they require new versions of libstdc++.so.  Many older linux 
 distributions commonly in use do not have the proper libs, and they aren't 
 available simply by installing a package.  So releasing it as is would be 
 very disruptive.  Figuring out the best way to package it to create minimum 
 disruption, and get it tested, is taking longer than expected.
 
 Your humble servant,
 - Fletch
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