RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere
I too was at the concert. About as far up in the highest balcony as one could get, but I was just glad I got seats before they were all sold out. And the sound was superb, even though there seemed to be about a two second delay from the time the musicians started to play and I heard it. One thing that I find interesting, though, is that while John Williams claims not to make a distinction between composing his movie scores and his serious concert works, there appears to be a quite distinct difference. His movie scores almost always are immediately accessible, but also bear repeated listening, unlike some other popular composers. On the other hand, his concert works seem to require repeated hearings before I can really appreciate them. Any comments? Timothy A. Johnson Information Technologies Northwestern College St. Paul, Minnesota http://tajohnson.org ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere
Even though not all movie music is great, or even good, many great orchestral scores are locked away in the vaults of Hollywood. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~ One thing that I find interesting, though, is that while John Williams claims not to make a distinction between composing his movie scores and his serious concert works, there appears to be a quite distinct difference. His movie scores almost always are immediately accessible, but also bear repeated listening, unlike some other popular composers. On the other hand, his concert works seem to require repeated hearings before I can really appreciate them. Any comments? Timothy A. Johnson Information Technologies Northwestern College St. Paul, Minnesota ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:40:46 -0600, Timothy A. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [John Williams's] movie scores almost always are immediately accessible, but also bear repeated listening, unlike some other popular composers. On the other hand, his concert works seem to require repeated hearings before I can really appreciate them. I bet a lot of John Williams's music that is in the background (behind dialog, etc.) is a little less accessible too. Composing for film is different because there are two distinct kinds of music: music you are supposed to notice and music you *aren't* supposed to notice. Concert music doesn't work the same way. Greg -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere
Prokofiev? Amy At 04:05 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: Quiz: Which major composer wrote the 1st motion picture music score? -AC. ~~ At 03:52 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: I bet a lot of John Williams's music that is in the background (behind dialog, etc.) is a little less accessible too. Composing for film is different because there are two distinct kinds of music: music you are supposed to notice and music you *aren't* supposed to notice. Concert music doesn't work the same way. Greg ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/amy-mcbeth%40uiowa.edu ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Not Prokofiev.-AC. At 03:10 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: Prokofiev? Amy At 04:05 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: Quiz: Which major composer wrote the 1st motion picture music score? -AC. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere
In 1915 D. W. Griffeth combined an orchestral score pieced together from existing classical music for the film Birth of a Nation. Al Jolson did most of the songs for the first talkie, The Jazz Singer and that was in 1927. For most of the early films and such I don't think you can attribute it to a single composer. Most were assembled from existing classical music ranging from Wagner to Mozart. -William In a message dated 12/3/2003 1:14:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Amy At 04:05 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: Quiz: Which major composer wrote the 1st motion picture music score? -AC. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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One of the first famed composers to write for film was Igor Stravinsky. Another who wrote for film was Gershwin. P Mansur On Wednesday, December 3, 2003, at 04:05 PM, Alan Cole wrote: Quiz: Which major composer wrote the 1st motion picture music score? -AC. ~~ At 03:52 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: I bet a lot of John Williams's music that is in the background (behind dialog, etc.) is a little less accessible too. Composing for film is different because there are two distinct kinds of music: music you are supposed to notice and music you *aren't* supposed to notice. Concert music doesn't work the same way. Greg ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/pmansur%40bellsouth.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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I cheated and looked in our on-line Grove...can't help it, I work in a library! Amy ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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If nobody comes up with the quiz answer this evening, I'll give the answer tonight after I get home from band rehearsal. Not only that, I will cite the source. (Not bad for a rank amateur, eh?) Given that I am not a musicalologist myself, that I know the answer only because I heard it on the radio, I expect that somebody out there out the list will get it. I have already provided some semi-subliminal clues. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. At 04:37 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: In 1915 D. W. Griffeth combined an orchestral score pieced together from existing classical music for the film Birth of a Nation. Al Jolson did most of the songs for the first talkie, The Jazz Singer and that was in 1927. For most of the early films and such I don't think you can attribute it to a single composer. Most were assembled from existing classical music ranging from Wagner to Mozart. -William ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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So who does Groves say it was? -AC. At 04:17 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: I cheated and looked in our on-line Grove...can't help it, I work in a library! Amy ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Well, they talk about compilations, etc, but make note of a 1908 French film by Henri Lavedan (L'assassinat du duc de Guise) with a score by Saint-Saens. A. At 05:45 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: So who does Groves say it was? -AC. At 04:17 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: I cheated and looked in our on-line Grove...can't help it, I work in a library! Amy ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/amy-mcbeth%40uiowa.edu ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Right you are! Saint-Saens it is. I'll get into the radio show which talked about that after I get home from band practice (in case anybody's interested). -AC. At 04:55 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, you wrote: Well, they talk about compilations, etc, but make note of a 1908 French film by Henri Lavedan (L'assassinat du duc de Guise) with a score by Saint-Saens. A. At 05:45 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: So who does Groves say it was? -AC. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere
Certainly not in John Williams' vault! In all seriousness Korngold, Bernard Hermann, and Max Steiner come to mind for good music on it's own. Chris --- Alan Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even though not all movie music is great, or even good, many great orchestral scores are locked away in the vaults of Hollywood. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~ One thing that I find interesting, though, is that while John Williams claims not to make a distinction between composing his movie scores and his serious concert works, there appears to be a quite distinct difference. His movie scores almost always are immediately accessible, but also bear repeated listening, unlike some other popular composers. On the other hand, his concert works seem to require repeated hearings before I can really appreciate them. Any comments? Timothy A. Johnson Information Technologies Northwestern College St. Paul, Minnesota ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
