Re: [Hornlist] Pictures at an Exhibition question
M. Elizabeth Fleming wrote: Prior to orchestra rehearsal today, I was approached by a conducting student with a question in regards to a particular notation in the Ravel orchestration of /Pictures at an Exhibition/: In the first movement, meaning Gnomus, there is an indication in the second horn part of hauteur réelle above a printed B-flat 2 *stopped* (in the middle of the bass clef). Real height meaning that it's new notation bass clef. I guess old notation bass clef is wrong height since it's written an octave too low. Greg ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Pictures at an Exhibition question
Greg Campbell wrote: Real height meaning that it's new notation bass clef. I guess old notation bass clef is wrong height since it's written an octave too low. They're both wrong, aren't they? One by 4 notes, the other by 5? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Pictures at an Exhibition question
Jerry Houston wrote: Greg Campbell wrote: Real height meaning that it's new notation bass clef. I guess old notation bass clef is wrong height since it's written an octave too low. They're both wrong, aren't they? One by 4 notes, the other by 5? I forgot to add that, except for my Kalison C single, all my horns are pitched wrong as well! ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Pictures at an Exhibition question
Jerry Houston wrote: Greg Campbell wrote: I guess old notation bass clef is wrong height since it's written an octave too low. They're both wrong, aren't they? One by 4 notes, the other by 5? right! ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Pictures at an Exhibition question
Googling the french phrase cited, came across this hit: http://books.google.com/books?id=jYTiK1bwjqICpg=RA1-PA76lpg=RA1-PA76dq=ha uteur+r%C3%A9elle+musicsource=webots=d7gpzc6l8Vsig=Q_ExHKSQqcgPeVFxX8D8Wl VtRfs Within this page, hauteur reelle is translated as the actual pitch. Fred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of M. Elizabeth Fleming Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:34 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Pictures at an Exhibition question Prior to orchestra rehearsal today, I was approached by a conducting student with a question in regards to a particular notation in the Ravel orchestration of /Pictures at an Exhibition/: In the first movement, meaning Gnomus, there is an indication in the second horn part of hauteur réelle above a printed B-flat 2 *stopped* (in the middle of the bass clef). My French is a just a tad rusty, but I believe it translates to real height. Regardless, the only explanation for this indication that I can come up with is indicating a new notation reading of the bass clef. That, or there was some confusion at the time about sounding pitches of stopped tones, and Ravel wanted to indicate that the B-flat should be the tone that sounds (not the tone that is fingered). I apologize for the convoludedness of this message, but hopefully someone more seasoned than I (which includes a good chunk of the readership of this list) will catch my drift and enlighten me, so that I, in turn, may enlighten him. Best, Elizabeth ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
