Re: [HOT] Mike's JOSM-Scripts merged to the Mapathoner JOSM plugin

[Mike Thompson]

Hi Frans,

The scripts should still work.  The scripting menu shows what scripts you
have recently run.  Therefore, if you have recently reinstalled JOSM, or
deleted your JOSM preferences file, or have run a lot of other scripts,
they may not show up. You should still be able to run

SelectNonortogonalbuildings.js, and Selectduplicate.js by Scripting -> Run
-> (navigating to the appropriate .js file).

Mike

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 7:25 AM Frans Schutz  wrote:

> Hi
> What went wrong?
> On the scripting tag I miss now  the  commands
> SelectNonortogonalbuildings.js
>
> Selectduplicate.js
> Which are very handy to select all non squared or duplicated buildings
> Under the tab Matathoner I only see the commands for mapping buildings in
> a batch
>
> The commands for finding non squared and duplicated buildings are
> important and most used by validators !
>
> Please keep me informed
>
>
> Op 11/23/2020 om 1:20 AM schreef Mike Thompson:
>
> Thanks Jiri!
>
> I am glad that these are valuable enough to the community that they were
> worth incorporating into your plugin.
>
>
> All,
>
> If there are any other needs for scripts/plugins, please let me know and I
> will see if the development is within my abilities.
>
> Mike
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 1:54 PM Jiri Vlasak 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear humanitarian mappers,
>>
>> with kind help of Mike, I merged Mike's JOSM-Scripts [1] into the
>> Mapathoner
>> JOSM plugin [2].
>>
>> It means that you may *select duplicate buildings* and *select non
>> orthogonal
>> buildings* [3] directly from the JOSM menu when the *mapathoner* plugin is
>> installed.
>>
>> If you have any questions, suggestions, or ideas, feel free to contribute
>> to
>> the (new) mapathoner mailing list:
>>
>> https://lists.sr.ht/~qeef/mapathoner
>>
>> Have a nice day,
>> jiri
>>
>> [1]: https://github.com/MikeTho16/JOSM-Scripts
>> [2]: https://qeef.gitlab.io/mapathoner/
>> [3]: https://qeef.gitlab.io/mapathoner/usage/#select-duplicate-buildings
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Re: [HOT] Mike's JOSM-Scripts merged to the Mapathoner JOSM plugin

[Mike Thompson]

Thanks Jiri!

I am glad that these are valuable enough to the community that they were
worth incorporating into your plugin.


All,

If there are any other needs for scripts/plugins, please let me know and I
will see if the development is within my abilities.

Mike

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 1:54 PM Jiri Vlasak  wrote:

> Dear humanitarian mappers,
>
> with kind help of Mike, I merged Mike's JOSM-Scripts [1] into the
> Mapathoner
> JOSM plugin [2].
>
> It means that you may *select duplicate buildings* and *select non
> orthogonal
> buildings* [3] directly from the JOSM menu when the *mapathoner* plugin is
> installed.
>
> If you have any questions, suggestions, or ideas, feel free to contribute
> to
> the (new) mapathoner mailing list:
>
> https://lists.sr.ht/~qeef/mapathoner
>
> Have a nice day,
> jiri
>
> [1]: https://github.com/MikeTho16/JOSM-Scripts
> [2]: https://qeef.gitlab.io/mapathoner/
> [3]: https://qeef.gitlab.io/mapathoner/usage/#select-duplicate-buildings
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Re: [HOT] JOSM "mini tasking manager" Plugin

[Mike Thompson]

Andrew, Laurent,

Thanks for your feedback!

> Isn't the JOSM plugin MarkSeen https://github.com/risicle/josm-markseen
very similar to what you're thinking about, or at least useful for your
purposes?
I was unaware of the MarkSeen plugin.  I just tried it, and I think it
fills the need I was trying to address for the most part.  I see a slight
advantage to the "ToDo List" based solution, in that it would do the
panning/zooming and the marking as "done" with one click, but others may
not see that advantage, and in any event,  the incremental advantage may
not be worth the effort.

> My only quibble would be to not add a second layer with squares, as OSM
objects
This was just a quick way to get a "grid view" of the tasks.  Objects, even
objects without tags, show up as grey lines.

> and plugins can draw to the map view themselves.
If I go forward with this, I will investigate how difficult that is.  I
agree that this would be preferable to the OSM data layer.

> Also I don't remember how well the TODO list deals with objects in other
layers
It works with objects that are not in the current layer - which is very
handy.

> I would support being added directly to the TODO plugin as additional
functionality.
One other thing that should be changed in the TODO Plugin to make this work
is that the current version expands the bbox of the object being zoomed to
(one reason is that you never want to try to zoom to the bbox of a node),
this would have to be changed so that the rectangles that have been created
are zoomed to very close to exactly.

Mike

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 9:54 AM Andrew Buck  wrote:

> That looks very handy, and is pretty much what I was thinking.  Thanks for
> pointing it out Laurent, am looking forward to trying it out.
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 10:49 AM Laurent Savaete  wrote:
>
>> Isn't the JOSM plugin MarkSeen https://github.com/risicle/josm-markseen
>> very similar to what you're thinking about, or at least useful for your
>> purposes?
>>
>>
>> On 23/09/2020 16:42, Andrew Buck wrote:
>>
>> Its a good idea, and something the TODO list plugin was originally
>> intended to do, in addition to its current functionality.  I am the one who
>> came up with the original idea for the plugin, but I am terrible with Java
>> so Gnonthgol coded it up based on my idea.
>>
>> I wanted to also add the "area coverage feature" like you are describing
>> as well as a "follow along way" function so you could follow along linear
>> features like roads/waterways at some fairly close in zoom level along a
>> long feature and it would track which parts you have examined.
>>
>> So I definitely think your idea has merit.  My only quibble would be to
>> not add a second layer with squares, as OSM objects.  You could do that,
>> but its a bit hacky. Also I don't remember how well the TODO list deals
>> with objects in other layers.  Fortunately, you don't have to add the
>> squares as objects anyway, since the todo list can track them internally
>> without them being OSM objects, and plugins can draw to the map view
>> themselves.  Think about things like the validator plugin (which draws non
>> osm object features to its own layer), or the fast draw plugin (which draws
>> non osm objects to the active map layer as temporary lines that then get
>> turned into proper OSM objects.
>>
>> So aside from the implementation details, I would say yes, this is
>> definitely a good idea and one I would support being added directly to the
>> TODO plugin as additional functionality.
>>
>> -AndrewBuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/23/20 9:44 AM, Mike Thompson wrote:
>>
>> Dear fellow humanitarian mappers,
>>
>> When I am mapping or validating a task from the tasking manager, I often
>> find myself "panning and scanning", that is, zooming into a level at which
>> I can quickly tell if everything that appears in imagery is mapped, and
>> then systematically panning over the entire area of the task area (either
>> with the mouse, or +an arrow key).  This works until I find something
>> that needs to be mapped, or needs to be mapped differently, in which case I
>> zoom in, do the mapping... and forget where I was with the "pan and scan"
>> (keyboard shortcut "8" - zoom previous helps a little, but if multiple
>> zooms/pans of the map are performed it can be difficult to "get back to
>> where you were").
>>
>> I have come up with a prototype of a new plugin which might help.  It
>> divides the downloaded area in JOSM into a grid of smaller rectangles, and
>> adds the rectangles to the Todo List (also a

[HOT] JOSM "mini tasking manager" Plugin

[Mike Thompson]

Dear fellow humanitarian mappers,

When I am mapping or validating a task from the tasking manager, I often
find myself "panning and scanning", that is, zooming into a level at which
I can quickly tell if everything that appears in imagery is mapped, and
then systematically panning over the entire area of the task area (either
with the mouse, or +an arrow key).  This works until I find something
that needs to be mapped, or needs to be mapped differently, in which case I
zoom in, do the mapping... and forget where I was with the "pan and scan"
(keyboard shortcut "8" - zoom previous helps a little, but if multiple
zooms/pans of the map are performed it can be difficult to "get back to
where you were").

I have come up with a prototype of a new plugin which might help.  It
divides the downloaded area in JOSM into a grid of smaller rectangles, and
adds the rectangles to the Todo List (also adds the rectangles to a new
data layer which is blocked from being uploaded from, or downloaded into).
As each of these rectangles is reviewed, you can "Mark" it in the Todo
List, and the Todo List will automatically zoom/pan the map to the next
rectangle.

Questions:
1) Would this be useful?
2) Does this functionality already exist?
3) Should I proceed with development?
4) Should it be its own plugin, or should it be combined with other
functionality of use to this community (for example, I could move the
duplicate building script functionality into this plugin)?

Mike
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[HOT] Help Supporting Corporate Mapathon - Denver Colorado Area

[Mike Thompson]

I was put in touch with the "Executive Administrator for Grants, Programs
and Employee Engagement" at Otterbox Corporation. They would like to have a
humanitarian mapathon at their facility near Longmont Colorado US for their
employees.  They are contemplating two events during the workday (perhaps
each ~3 hours long, including introduction and training). Are you in the
Denver area and would you be willing to help run the mapathon(s)? Or do you
know someone who is in the Denver area and who might be willing to help. We
have not settled on an exact date, but are contemplating sometime around
the end of November.

Thanks,

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Re: [HOT] Mapathon stats analysis

[Mike Thompson]

One can use Overpass to get all of the OSM elements which were added,
changed or deleted during the time of your mapathon in your AOI.  These
will be tagged with the user who last touched them, so you can get stats by
user.  The disadvantage is that you will include edits by users who were
not part of your mapathon but who happened to made edits to OSM in that AOI
during the time period of your mapathon.  However, unless you are working
on a crisis task, this is not likely to skew your results too much in my
experience.

I sometimes make a Carto map of the results, e.g.:
https://tekim.carto.com/viz/baf5c3a2-2aa8-11e7-88b2-0ef24382571b/embed_map

I have more detailed instructions should someone be interested.

Mike


On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Donal Hunt  wrote:

> *[I don't speak for the team (I'm just a volunteer contributor to missing
> maps) so someone with more context may chime in with better info...]*
>
> I'm not familiar with the implementation of the leaderboard at all.
> Someone from the HOTOSM web team probably knows. Or you can file a feature
> request here I think: https://github.com/MissingMaps/missingmaps.
> github.io/issues
>
> For the features specific to the tasking manager, I suspect that filing
> them here  (
> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues) is the right thing
> to do. That way one of the regular maintainers or a volunteer developer can
> see the priority of the feature being developed and contribute to it being
> implemented.
>
> For the stats related requests, I suspect something probably exists
> already within the OSM community / ecosystem that could be tweaked for your
> needs. I don't have enough context right now to suggest something (maybe in
> the future).
>
> Regards
>
> Donal
>
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Bjoern Hassler 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Jan, dear Donal, dear friends,
>>
>> Is there an instance of https://github.com/tgrippa/
>> Mapathon_HOT_OSM_WhatWeMapped running somewhere?
>>
>> This is great: http://www.missingmaps.org/leaderboards/#/HASHTAG, though
>> there's some discrepancy between the data it shows and what I can see from
>> the overpass api directly and from http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/. How
>> does the leaderboards tool collect the information?
>>
>> Ideally, what I would like is:
>> - all users who contributed to tasking managers under id #1234 (from
>> date/time-date/time), including incomplete tasks
>> - all users who contributed to the bbox of project #1234  (from
>> date/time-date/time)
>> - all users who used hashtag in a variety of spellings (#hashtag |
>> #Hashtag | etc)  (from date/time-date/time)
>> (- all users who attended a mapathon see below)
>>
>> Ideally as GET parameters or similar, i.e.
>> http://someservice/?project=1234|1235|1236
>> tasks=yes=yes=hashtag|hashtag2
>> stagcasesensitive=no=...=...
>>
>> which would return a list of users, with projects contributed to and how
>> that fact was determined (via project id1/2/3, project area for project
>> id1/2/3 or hashtag1, hashtag2, etc), plus number of contributions per user
>> in different categories (nodes, ways, way[building], way[highway]), plus
>> (one can but dream!) the age of their OSM account and total changesets.
>>
>> Clearly there is redundancy in the query - but that's on purpose. It
>> would e.g. find people who are mapping in an area, but not working through
>> the task manager.
>>
>> It would also be amazing if on the tasking manager, people can register
>> their attendance at a mapathon. E.g. as you go to project page it says: "A
>> mapathon for this project is in progress. Click here if you are
>> participating in this mapathon in person or remotely."
>>
>> (E.g. In terms of the query, add includeattendeelist=yes
>> http://someservice/?=yes )
>>
>> If you had such an attendee list tool, maybe you could even put in your
>> name and table number. Then we'd immediately know who is there, and could
>> start looking at their edits, and support them. I sometimes wander round a
>> mapathon trying to find a user who needs a bit of extra support.
>>
>> Having said all of this, I'd be very happy to help build such tools, but
>> would prefer to do this as part of a small team!
>> Bjoern
>>
>>
>> On 16 June 2017 at 14:09, Jan Martinec  wrote:
>>
>>> Dne 16.6.2017 v 14:13 Bjoern Hassler napsal(a):
>>>
 Dear friends,


 What tools do we normally use to get statistics on a mapathon?

 Clearly the tasking manager provides contributors to the task in the
 'stats'
 section, and also I can run overpass to look for changes made by those
 users.

 I don't think it's possible to get changesets by #hashtag? You'd have
 to use the
 main API to get all change sets for the period of the event, and then
 select the
 ones that have the right hashtag(s)?

 Does anybody have some 

Re: [HOT] iD issues?

[Mike Thompson]

Bryan,

Thanks. Good to know that it is an known problem and not simply something I
was doing wrong.  I will ask folks attending the mapathon to use a browser
other than Chrome.

Mike

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Bryan Housel <br...@7thposition.com> wrote:

> As far as I know, the issue is only with Chrome on Windows.. Firefox, IE,
> and Edge should be ok.
> We’re tracking it here:  https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3805
>
> Thanks, Bryan
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Update: perhaps it is just coincidence, but iD appears to be fully working
> in IE, however, I know I have successfully used iD in Chrome in the past.
> Mike
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am preparing for a mapathon and am reviewing the instructions for the
>> participants to make sure they are still current and to re familiarize
>> myself with iD as I normally us JOSM. In the iD editor I am able to add and
>> tag new features, but I cannot select existing features in order modify
>> their geometry or their tags, and I cannot get the context menu to appear.
>> I am using Chrome on Windows. Does anyone have any advice or idea as to
>> what I might be doing wrong?
>>
>> Mike
>>
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Re: [HOT] iD issues?

[Mike Thompson]

Update: perhaps it is just coincidence, but iD appears to be fully working
in IE, however, I know I have successfully used iD in Chrome in the past.
Mike

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am preparing for a mapathon and am reviewing the instructions for the
> participants to make sure they are still current and to re familiarize
> myself with iD as I normally us JOSM. In the iD editor I am able to add and
> tag new features, but I cannot select existing features in order modify
> their geometry or their tags, and I cannot get the context menu to appear.
> I am using Chrome on Windows. Does anyone have any advice or idea as to
> what I might be doing wrong?
>
> Mike
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[HOT] iD issues?

[Mike Thompson]

I am preparing for a mapathon and am reviewing the instructions for the
participants to make sure they are still current and to re familiarize
myself with iD as I normally us JOSM. In the iD editor I am able to add and
tag new features, but I cannot select existing features in order modify
their geometry or their tags, and I cannot get the context menu to appear.
I am using Chrome on Windows. Does anyone have any advice or idea as to
what I might be doing wrong?

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Re: [HOT] Bounding box not in iD Editor anymore

[Mike Thompson]

Blake,

Thanks for the further followup! Good to know that the issue has been
resolved.

Mike

On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 4:24 AM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> Hi Mike, hi all,
>
> Mike, I found out why you now get the purple task box again: OSM made
> a change to how the OSM website works with secure connections
> yesterday which fixes the issue with the purple task outline loading
> in iD.
>
> This means everyone should start seeing the purple task outline in the
> iD editor now!
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
>
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We held a mapathon yesterday evening (5pm - 7pm US MST) with about 60
> people
> > in attendance.  None of the participants ever got the purple box
> bounding
> > box in iD, despite multiple attempts. I see it is now working.  Was
> there a
> > problem yesterday that has subsequently been fixed?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Rebecca Firth <rebecca.fi...@hotosm.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Re-kindling this thread as another mapper and myself appear to be
> >> experiencing the bounding box issue again (in Safari and Chrome) across
> a
> >> few different tasks.
> >>
> >> Re-pasting the workaround instructions from before for anyone mapping
> >> presently:
> >>
> >> Load task in iD
> >> Return to Task on TM, go back to 'edit with' and select JOSM
> >> You will get an error message about JOSM remote control, but it will
> give
> >> you access to a section of the JOSM menu
> >> From the section that reads "Tip: Download the following .gpx file and
> >> load it in JOSM in order to see the current task boundary" right click
> on
> >> ".gpx file" and select "Save link as" - I put mine in my downloads
> folder.
> >> Back to the iD tab in your browser, and have file manager open as well -
> >> drag & drop the downloaded .gpx file onto the window of ID -- then
> wait...
> >> If all goes well you now have the square on your iD screen. It took a
> >> while to load on my setup & a message about waiting or closing appeared
> -
> >> but it has loaded each time I've tried.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Rebecca
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
> >> <blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Nick!
> >>>
> >>> Your work around is great and working for people! Thank you very much!
> >>>
> >>> Pierre Giraud, just put a hotfix on the Tasking Manager to make your
> >>> solution easier. This is live now.
> >>>
> >>> The link to the .gpx file now shows up on the iD Editor menu
> >>> selection, you do not need to try josm and have it fail. Just go back
> >>> to the page and dowload the .gpx file from the iD Editor selected
> >>> dialog.
> >>>
> >>> A screenshot is attached to make it more clear.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you again Nick and Pierre!
> >>>
> >>> Respectfully,
> >>> Blake
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Nick Allen <nick.allen...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > A quick but dirty workaround
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > 1. Load task in iD
> >>> >
> >>> > 2. return to Task on TM, go back to 'edit with' and select JOSM
> >>> >
> >>> > 3. You will get an error message about JOSM remote control, but it
> will
> >>> > give
> >>> > you access to a section of the JOSM menu
> >>> >
> >>> > 4. From the section that reads "Tip: Download the following .gpx file
> >>> > and
> >>> > load it in JOSM in order to see the current task boundary" right
> click
> >>> > on
> >>> > ".gpx file" and select "Save link as" - I put mine in my downloads
> >>> > folder.
> >>> >
> >>> > 4. Back to the iD tab in your browser, and have file manager open as
> >>> > well -
> >>> > drag & drop the downloaded .gpx file onto the window of ID -- then
> >>> > wait...
> >>> >
> >>> >

Re: [HOT] Bounding box not in iD Editor anymore

[Mike Thompson]

Blake,

Thanks for your reply and explanation of the situation, and thanks to
everyone who is working on getting the fix deployed. I thought the problem
might have something to do with the fact there were so many of us hitting
the wifi at our venue, and hence causing the content request for the
bounding box from the other website to timeout.

I wonder if iD might be changed in the future to optionally accept four
parameters (minx, miny, maxx, maxy) and use those to generate the bounding
box (or better yet hatch out the area outside the bbox like JOSM)
internally, rather than having to pull the information from another site.

Rebecca,

Thanks for the work around!  I keep that handy in case this happens again.

Mike

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> HI Mike,
>
> First off, our apologies for this issue. I can not really imagine the
> difficulty of running a mapathon with this issue going on.
>
> It has been very difficult for us to resolve, but Nate, David, Pierre,
> Ethan and myself have really been focused on it since the problem
> appeared a few days ago. It took all of us (well, all of them, I was
> mostly just panicking the whole time) to track down the issue and then
> develop and test the fixes, which are a mix of Tasking Manager code
> changes and configuration changes to multiple parts of our web server
> software.
>
> We have figured out the fixes earlier today, but it is, pretty
> complicated, and time consuming to deploy on our production server and
> we were not able to accomplish it today because David is travelling
> this evening.
>
> Honestly, it is just a symptom of the difficult nature of the problem
> that you are now getting the purple task square again. We have made no
> changes to our production server. Different browsers handle the
> underlying problem (technically called a "mixed-content" issue)
> differently. Aside from maybe a different browser, or different
> browser version, or a different OS, I am not sure why you are getting
> the purple square now.
>
> Sometime tomorrow at the latest David and Nate will be able to roll
> the fixes to our software and systems out to our main production
> Tasking Manager server and then everyone should start getting the
> purple task square in iD again.
>
> Nate Smith, David Neudorfer, Pierre Giraud and Ethan Smith are among
> the very best at what they do and we are lucky to have them working
> and volunteering for HOT.
>
> Again, our apologies for the problem, it has been our top priority to
> get fixed this week.
>
> Respectfully,
> Blake
>
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:36 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We held a mapathon yesterday evening (5pm - 7pm US MST) with about 60
> people
> > in attendance.  None of the participants ever got the purple box
> bounding
> > box in iD, despite multiple attempts. I see it is now working.  Was
> there a
> > problem yesterday that has subsequently been fixed?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Rebecca Firth <rebecca.fi...@hotosm.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Re-kindling this thread as another mapper and myself appear to be
> >> experiencing the bounding box issue again (in Safari and Chrome) across
> a
> >> few different tasks.
> >>
> >> Re-pasting the workaround instructions from before for anyone mapping
> >> presently:
> >>
> >> Load task in iD
> >> Return to Task on TM, go back to 'edit with' and select JOSM
> >> You will get an error message about JOSM remote control, but it will
> give
> >> you access to a section of the JOSM menu
> >> From the section that reads "Tip: Download the following .gpx file and
> >> load it in JOSM in order to see the current task boundary" right click
> on
> >> ".gpx file" and select "Save link as" - I put mine in my downloads
> folder.
> >> Back to the iD tab in your browser, and have file manager open as well -
> >> drag & drop the downloaded .gpx file onto the window of ID -- then
> wait...
> >> If all goes well you now have the square on your iD screen. It took a
> >> while to load on my setup & a message about waiting or closing appeared
> -
> >> but it has loaded each time I've tried.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Rebecca
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
> >> <blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Nick!
> >>>
> >>> Your work around 

Re: [HOT] Bounding box not in iD Editor anymore

[Mike Thompson]

We held a mapathon yesterday evening (5pm - 7pm US MST) with about 60
people in attendance.  None of the participants ever got the purple box
 bounding box in iD, despite multiple attempts. I see it is now working.
Was there a problem yesterday that has subsequently been fixed?

Mike

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Rebecca Firth 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Re-kindling this thread as another mapper and myself appear to be
> experiencing the bounding box issue again (in Safari and Chrome) across a
> few different tasks.
>
> Re-pasting the workaround instructions from before for anyone mapping
> presently:
>
>
>1. Load task in iD
>2. Return to Task on TM, go back to 'edit with' and select JOSM
>3. You will get an error message about JOSM remote control, but it
>will give you access to a section of the JOSM menu
>4. From the section that reads "*Tip: Download the following .gpx file
> and load it in JOSM in
>order to see the current task boundary" *right click on *".gpx file" *and
>select *"Save link as" -* I put mine in my downloads folder.
>5. Back to the iD *tab in your browser, and have file manager open as
>well - drag & drop the downloaded .gpx file onto the window of ID -- then
>wait...*
>6. If all goes well you now have the square on your iD screen.* It
>took a while to load on my setup & a message about waiting or closing
>appeared - but it has loaded each time I've tried. *
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rebecca
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
> blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick!
>>
>> Your work around is great and working for people! Thank you very much!
>>
>> Pierre Giraud, just put a hotfix on the Tasking Manager to make your
>> solution easier. This is live now.
>>
>> The link to the .gpx file now shows up on the iD Editor menu
>> selection, you do not need to try josm and have it fail. Just go back
>> to the page and dowload the .gpx file from the iD Editor selected
>> dialog.
>>
>> A screenshot is attached to make it more clear.
>>
>> Thank you again Nick and Pierre!
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Blake
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Nick Allen 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> > A quick but dirty workaround
>> >
>> >
>> > 1. Load task in iD
>> >
>> > 2. return to Task on TM, go back to 'edit with' and select JOSM
>> >
>> > 3. You will get an error message about JOSM remote control, but it will
>> give
>> > you access to a section of the JOSM menu
>> >
>> > 4. From the section that reads "Tip: Download the following .gpx file
>> and
>> > load it in JOSM in order to see the current task boundary" right click
>> on
>> > ".gpx file" and select "Save link as" - I put mine in my downloads
>> folder.
>> >
>> > 4. Back to the iD tab in your browser, and have file manager open as
>> well -
>> > drag & drop the downloaded .gpx file onto the window of ID -- then
>> wait...
>> >
>> > 5. If all goes well you now have the square on your iD screen. It took a
>> > while to load on my setup & a message about waiting or closing appeared
>> -
>> > but it has loaded each time I've tried.
>> >
>> >
>> > I'll try to put together a quick howto with images on LearnOSM and make
>> it
>> > downloadable. Feedback as to whether this works for everyone would be
>> > appreciated in case I have to make amendments.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> >
>> > Nick
>> > (Tallguy)
>> >
>> > On 06/02/17 11:36, Donal Hunt wrote:
>> >
>> > Can confirm. Have noticed that the bounding box doesn't always display.
>> > Usually closing the tab and relaunching 1-2 times results in it
>> appearing.
>> > If logs / javascript console output is useful for tracking down the
>> issue,
>> > let me know and I'll share. :)
>> >
>> > d.
>> >
>> > On 6 February 2017 at 08:09, Rebecca Firth 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Just to add in on this one, there are quite a lot of mapathons going on
>> >> over the next few days, including a group of students in Botswana
>> mapping
>> >> from today for the next two weeks.
>> >>
>> >> @Bryan - I had noticed over the past few months that sometimes the pink
>> >> box didn't load immediately when you loaded a square, and you needed
>> to wait
>> >> quite a while or reload the square to see it. Not sure if others had
>> seen
>> >> the same.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Rebecca
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 10:43 PM, Bryan Housel 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> That does look like a bug!   I will try to get a fix merged in by your
>> >>> event Wednesday…
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Orla McManus 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am unable to see the square bounding box in iD Editor when I lock
>> and
>> >>> open a task/grid square e.g.http://tasks.hotosm.org/pr
>> oject/2477#task/58. My
>> >>> understanding is that 

Re: [HOT] Validating by Username

[Mike Thompson]

Another approach: If you have an element (node, way, relation) that you are
validating, once you select it in JOSM ("S" to put JOSM in "select mode"
and then click on the element), you can press +H to see everyone who
has ever edited it.


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 6:49 PM, john whelan  wrote:

> You need JOSM for validating anyway so if you're using JOSM then you can
> simply search for everything and it will give you the mappers name.  iD
> will not pick out the crossing ways and duplicate nodes etc.
>
> Have you read through
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/
> Validating_data#Why.2C_When_and_What_do_we_Validate.3F ?
>
> When validating building projects use a search for building to highlight
> them.  Makes it much easier to spot missing ones.
>
> Other techniques are get your mappers to map at the top say left tile.
> That way a validator can check their work even if they don't complete a
> tile.
>
> Have fun any questions bug me directly.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 1 February 2017 at 20:33, noah ahles  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I started a HOT club at the University of Vermont and we'd like to start
>> validating real time (or as close to real time as possible) at mapathons to
>> make sure people are editing to the best of their ability. We'd also like
>> to set up geomentoring relationships to pair club members with new mappers
>> so we can look over their work and message them with constructive feedback.
>> Is there a tool within ID Editor or JOSM for us to be able to look over
>> edits by username during the validation process?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Noah
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Re: [HOT] addresses

[Mike Thompson]

John,

In JOSM, select the node, press + i. A dialog box will be displayed
from which you can copy the coordinates.

Mike

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 5:10 PM, john whelan  wrote:

> So this sounds doable.  Interesting.  Now to look for cut and paste in
> JOSM.
>
> Thanks John
>
> On 12 December 2016 at 19:07, althio  wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> In iD, select your node, then on screen bottom left corner, you can
>> click "View on openstreetmap.org".
>> In the new page [https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/xx] you can
>> find the coordinates in the left panel for copy/paste.
>>
>> -- althio
>>
>>
>> On 13 December 2016 at 00:49, john whelan  wrote:
>> > In JOSM I can see the longitude and latitude of each node of a
>> building.  I
>> > don't think it's possible in iD.
>> >
>> > If I'm interested in the characteristics of the building or inhabitants
>> > either within OSM or by linking it to another data source is there an
>> easy
>> > way to cut and paste the longitude and latitude of a node of the
>> building
>> > into say a spreadsheet?
>> >
>> > Can I cut and paste these values easily to locate a building?
>> >
>> > Perhaps there would have to be a convention that say only the northwest
>> > corner was used.
>> >
>> > Thanks John
>> >
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager Slow

[Mike Thompson]

Hi Blake,

Thanks for your reply with all of the detailed information, and thanks for
all that you do for HOT!

I am glad to hear that the team is aware of the issue and that there are
plans to resolve it.

Mike


On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> We are working to get this fixed permanently in the very near future
> by distributing our infrastructure a bit more (1 month or less) and
> make improvements to the Tasking Manager code so it is less demanding
> on hardware in general (6 months).
>
> We also spent time last week trying to prepare the server for GeoWeek
> knowing the load was going to be increased this week and met with
> limited options for safely (read: untested changes) increasing
> capacity.
>
> Over the last few months we have basically reached the limit of our
> existing infrastructure as the load on the Tasking Manager has
> increased due to increased use, which is, I do not want to say is
> good, but an encouraging sign really because it is a result of both
> organizations and mappers using the HOT Tasking Manager increasing a
> fair amount.
>
> I apologize for it making mapping and validating more difficult, it is
> very high priority for us, basically our top technical priority at the
> moment. I really wish we were able  get some of these infrastructure
> improvements in place sooner but it just was not possible.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to write the email, we should have
> communicated our awareness of the issue and our effort to get the
> situation fixed more.
>
> Respectfully,
> Blake
>
>
>
>
> 
> Blake Girardot
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
> skype: jblakegirardot
> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > The tasking manager seems to be slow and has been for some time.
> Sometimes
> > it is necessary to click on a choice multiple times before the tasking
> > manager actually performs the requested action. Sometimes the project
> grid
> > doesn't show up right away or doesn't show up at all. Can anything be
> done
> > about this? It is slowing down mapping and validation, and it is
> frustrating
> > for new people who are just being introduced to the project (I try and
> tell
> > them that there are 1000's of people around the world on HOT projects and
> > that is why things are slow).
> >
> > I know that many of the people that support the project are volunteers
> and
> > that budgets for hosting services are tight.  I am not trying to be
> > critical, but rather trying to raise awareness so that hopefully a
> solution
> > can be found.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
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[HOT] Tasking Manager Slow

[Mike Thompson]

The tasking manager seems to be slow and has been for some time.  Sometimes
it is necessary to click on a choice multiple times before the tasking
manager actually performs the requested action. Sometimes the project grid
doesn't show up right away or doesn't show up at all. Can anything be done
about this? It is slowing down mapping and validation, and it is
frustrating for new people who are just being introduced to the project (I
try and tell them that there are 1000's of people around the world on HOT
projects and that is why things are slow).

I know that many of the people that support the project are volunteers and
that budgets for hosting services are tight.  I am not trying to be
critical, but rather trying to raise awareness so that hopefully a solution
can be found.

Thanks,

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Re: [HOT] OpenStreetMap data, good and bad

[Mike Thompson]

>
>
>
> JOSM with the building tool plug in is seen as too complicated by many
> mapathon organisers.
>
The building tool itself isn't too complicated, JOSM itself isn't even too
complicated, it is getting it installed on everyone's machine.  They have
to have Java 8, an OS that supports Java 8, download JOSM, install the
building plugin, turn on remote control, restart JOSM, and accept the https
cert for remote control. I have made some USB thumb drives pre loaded with
Java, JOSM and the necessary plugins that solves all of these issues except
for the OS. So far I have it working for Windows and Linux.  I think it
will work on Mac, but just haven't gotten that far yet.  I plan on using
these at a future mapathon.
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Re: [HOT] iD Editor on iPad

[Mike Thompson]

John,

Thanks.  That is my opinion generally as well. I wonder if a stylus is a
suitable substitute for a mouse on an iPad?

Mike

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:14 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Typically you need a mouse to get any sort of precision even with a
> Windows laptop.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 12 November 2016 at 13:03, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am working with a group that would like to work on humanitarian mapping
>> projects in the Tasking Manager, however they only have access to iPads. I
>> investigated the iOS specific editors here:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Apple_iOS However, I don't think any
>> of these are integrated with the Task Manager.
>>
>> I borrowed an iPad and did some testing of the iD editor on it. It seems
>> to work, but it is very difficult to draw precisely with ones finger, and
>> it is particularly difficult to "click"/tap the last node on a way a second
>> time in order to complete it (the location of the click / tap is likely to
>> be different enough from the last node to create a new node instead of
>> finishing the way).
>>
>> Does anyone have any advice (apart from telling them to move to a
>> different platform)? Would a stylus solve the problem on the iPad? Are
>> there  reasons other than the precision of the tapping/clicking that make
>> the iD editor unusable on an iPad? Do any of the iOS specific apps have a
>> remote control interface so that they can be used with the Tasking Manager?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
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[HOT] iD Editor on iPad

[Mike Thompson]

I am working with a group that would like to work on humanitarian mapping
projects in the Tasking Manager, however they only have access to iPads. I
investigated the iOS specific editors here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Apple_iOS However, I don't think any of
these are integrated with the Task Manager.

I borrowed an iPad and did some testing of the iD editor on it. It seems to
work, but it is very difficult to draw precisely with ones finger, and it
is particularly difficult to "click"/tap the last node on a way a second
time in order to complete it (the location of the click / tap is likely to
be different enough from the last node to create a new node instead of
finishing the way).

Does anyone have any advice (apart from telling them to move to a different
platform)? Would a stylus solve the problem on the iPad? Are there  reasons
other than the precision of the tapping/clicking that make the iD editor
unusable on an iPad? Do any of the iOS specific apps have a remote control
interface so that they can be used with the Tasking Manager?

Thanks,

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Re: [HOT] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Alternative imagery project 2102

[Mike Thompson]

Daniel,

* Right side of iD screen click the icon that looks like a stack of books /
papers.
* Click the magnifying glass next to "Custom"
* Enter the string for the imagery source.

Mike

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Daniel Specht  wrote:

> Hotties,
>
> I've been reviewing some tiles on #2102 Suna East, Kenya - PMI/USAID
> .
> The instructions say to use tms[22]:http://imagegeocenter.
> org/image/rest/services/Kenyasunaeastv3/MapServer/tile/{z}/{y}/{x}, but
> when you go to the ID editor, the only available imagery is Bing. Most of
> the mappers have used Bing (see below).
>
> I'm new to the ID editor. Is there a way to add the newer imagery to ID?
>
> Dan
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Honning 
> Date: Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 9:35 AM
> Subject: [OpenStreetMap] Alternative imagery project 2102
> To: danspe...@gmail.com
>
>
> Hi Daniel Specht,
>
> Honning  has sent you a
> message through OpenStreetMap with the subject Alternative imagery project
> 2102:
> ==
>
> Hi Daniel, I´ve seen your messages about 3 tiles I mapped. I used Bing
> because I was not aware of the fact that Bing was old. I´m not familiar
> with how to use tms[22]:http://imagegeocenter.
> org/image/rest/services/Kenyasunaeastv3/MapServer/tile/{z}/{y}/{x so
> please advise. I use ID and Opera browser.
>
> Regards, Honning
> ==
>
> You can also read the message at http://www.openstreetmap.org/m
> essage/read/598360 and you can reply at http://www.openstreetmap.org/m
> essage/reply/598360
>
>
>
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Re: [HOT] Validating and imagery offset

[Mike Thompson]

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 8:38 AM, john whelan  wrote:

>
> If the buildings are way out compared to Bing then you could select one
> displaced building and note the name.  Now search for all the buildings,
> within that search for the mapper.  Hopefully all their buildings will be
> displaced the same amount,
>
Typically the displacement between two imagery sources will vary with
location, thus selecting all of the buildings in a task done by a certain
mapper and moving them will not usually work unfortunately.

>
> On 24 October 2016 at 08:03, Kretzer  wrote:
>
>>
>> Should I clean this up while validating the "buildings only" project? How
>> would I do this, align everything to Bing? (I remmeber having read that
>> this is considered the most accurate). But then I would have to move around
>> a lot of polygons, as all the new buildings are mapped to the custom
>> imagery.
>> Or would you move the road to fit in with the majority of existing
>> structures?
>>
> This is an area where the instructions for the individual tasking manager
projects could be improved.
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Re: [HOT] Help wanted cleaning up in Africa, needs JOSM and Todo plugin

[Mike Thompson]

Should we make these into a Map Roulette challenge?

Mike

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 8:44 AM, john whelan  wrote:

> A lot of HOT projects are in Africa and they ask for buildings.  Often
> when I validate on them I see a fair number of buildings mapped but not
> tagged correctly.  I'm not saying that all the area=yes untags are from HOT
> mapping but a lot of it is in areas where HOT has projects.
>
> Recently I loaded up a couple of African countries in JOSM.  Recently I've
> tagged more than a thousand untagged ways mainly highways.  So there are a
> lot more highways showing on the map.  Untagged means they don't show.
>
> Many HOT projects seem to like buildings.  These are buildings that are
> already there but untagged.  It's a quick way to add lots of buildings.
>
> The other side of the coin is I think there is a responsibility to clean
> up as many of the mappers are registered in HOT.  Yes we are part of OSM
> but some of the mapping done leaves a little to be desired.  It's only when
> you load up a big chunk that you see just how many there are.  Validation
> often isn't happening or its done by inexperienced mappers.
>
> Cheerio John
>
>
>
> On 16 October 2016 at 10:28, Augustin  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I don't understand the link between your mail subject "Help wanted
>> cleaning up in Africa, needs JOSM and Todo plugin" and the Humanitarian
>> OpenStreetMap Team Mailing list. Maybe there is a context linked to
>> specific countries and a lot of mistakes related to a previous activation,
>> which could explain the link with HOT, if so please explain it. If not,
>> this email should be posted on the related-countries mailing lists in
>> appropriates languages.
>> Have a good day from Bouaké,
>>
>> Augustin
>> Le 16/10/2016 à 13:05, john whelan a écrit :
>>
>> There are thousands of untagged ways marked area=yes.  Most are buildings.
>>
>> The process for cleaning up is grab a country from
>>
>> http://download.geofabrik.de/africa.html
>>
>> use osmconvert64 to convert it into .osm format
>>
>> osmconvert64 G:\maps\niger-latest.osm.pbf  -o=f:\maps\niger.osm
>>
>> you may need to select an area within this to make it small enough to fit
>> into JOSM.
>>
>> osmconvert64 f:\maps\nig.osm -b=8.8416511,4.284668,14.2430869,15.6884766
>> -o=nig1.osm
>>
>> start JOSM with lots of memory this is 8 gigs.
>>
>> java -Xmx821000 -jar G:\josm\josm-tested.jar
>>
>> Load up the local file into 64 bit JOSM.
>>
>> Go to Edit, Preferences, validator, and untick everything except
>> untagged, empty and one node ways.  This is purely for speed.
>>
>> Validate, select the untagged ways, search in them for area=yes and add
>> them to the todo list.  Tag them.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
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Re: [HOT] OSM humanitarian mapping and its learning curve

[Mike Thompson]

Two situations that a new mapper may face:
1) Task area with nothing, or very little, mapped.
This *should* be pretty easy. For example, in the case of buildings: draw
building, square it, tag it as a building, don't draw two buildings over
lapping each other.  However, despite verbal instruction, demonstrations,
and written instructions, many get it wrong. My conclusion is human
learning is more complex than many of us assume (hence the need for
professional educators in our society). We may need to adjust our training
(both online and in person) to be more effective. Just providing the
information is not enough.

2) Task area has already been partially mapped, either outside of the
tasking manager, as part of a previous project, or as part of the current
project where another mapper didn't finish.
Essentially we are asking the mapper in question to be a validator, because
we expect that when he or she marks the task as done, they are saying that
all of the mapping is done according to the instructions, not just the
mapping he or she did. This can be very difficult for a new mapper,
especially without the tools in JOSM. For example, if the instructions call
for buildings to be square, they have to pan the entire task looking for
buildings where is in JOSM, I put all buildings into the to do list and
step through them (I could also search for ways tagged as buildings with
less than a certain number of nodes and square them all at once).

Ideas:
* Have the tasking manager require a mapper to open (no way of knowing if
they actually read them)  their messages before they can do checkout
another tasks.
* Have tasking manager forward messages to mapper's email account.
* Require that a mapper at least visits the "instructions" tab before
checking out a task.
* Enhance project instructions to cover "edge cases". For example, should
buildings under construction be mapped? Should existing features be
spatially adjusted to the preferred imagery source, or should the imagery
be adjusted to them?
* Enhance project instructions to have links to examples (some of the
Africa projects already do this).  "Not sure what a building under
construction looks like? Click here for some examples." "Not sure how to
adjust imagery offset in iD? Click here for instructions."
* Mapathons should not be held without experienced mappers present who are
willing to spend the entire event going from person to person to check on
their work and answer any questions. We need many different people to make
this work, and if someone just wants to be an organizer that is great, but
they should ensure experienced mappers are in attendance.
* Some sort of online way to quickly give feedback as soon as a save is
made such that it is not necessary to wait until a task is marked as done.

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[HOT] #2228 - Hurricane Matthew: Jereme Post Event Imagery

[Mike Thompson]

Suggest the instructions for this and similar tasks explicitly state that
existing mapping is to be realigned to new imagery (if that is in fact what
is desired).  The instructions imply this when they say "...but all final
mapping and validation should use this imagery for validation."
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[HOT] Haiti Building Tasks - Construction?

[Mike Thompson]

For the tasks over Haiti related to the recovery efforts for Hurricane
Matthew, should we be mapping buildings under construction (buildings where
you see only walls but no roof)? Some of these actually may be buildings
that were whole, but are now damaged.

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Re: [HOT] HOT Statistics

[Mike Thompson]

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Paul Norman  wrote:

>
> Unless a big focus of your presentation is on activity and how to measure
> it, I'd just stick with 10% as being approximately right.
>
> Thanks Paul.  That is very interesting and I may cite it in my talk. I
should have been more clear, I am not trying to show that humanitarian
mapping is significant relative to the whole of OSM, just that a
significant amount of mapping gets accomplished in response to these events.

Mike

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Re: [HOT] HOT Statistics

[Mike Thompson]

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Imre Samu  wrote:

> >  I am doing a presentation and I would like to cite some stats about
> some HOT projects (I just need three or four examples).
>
>
> one  example:
> Typhoon Haiyan (2013)
>  http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-typhoon-haiyan-2013
> - OpenStreetMap Activities for Typhoon Haiyan (2013)
> - http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-typhoon-haiyan-2013-contributors
>  ( "To all *1,679 voluntary contributors* of the OpenStreetMap project
> for Typhoon Haiyan (2013) who made more than* 4,799,290 Map changes!*"   )
> - qualityassesment: http://americanredcross.github.io/OSM-Assessment/
>
> 
Imre, these are all very helpful! Thanks.

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Re: [HOT] HOT Statistics

[Mike Thompson]

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:26 PM, john whelan  wrote:

> You might like to think in terms of data quality.  Number of mappers is
> interesting I've seen 20 new maperthon mappers not finish a single tile
> between them and I've seen a team of three JOSM mappers map a project very
> quickly doing about 90% of the project the other 10% was done by other
> mappers.
>
> John, I completely agree. For this presentation I am just trying to get
the message across that humanitarian mapping in OSM is of significant size.

>
> What can impact the rate of mapping is having a validator sitting on the
> project.  Giving feedback seems to motivate the mappers to do a few more.
>
very good advice.

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[HOT] HOT Statistics

[Mike Thompson]

I am doing a presentation and I would like to cite some stats about some
HOT projects (I just need three or four examples). I am interested in
things such as:
* How many people contributed
* How many features mapped (e.g. # of buildings, km of roads, etc)
* How quickly the contributions were made.

Are these available anywhere, or does anyone have a method for pulling them
out via the API or Overapass?

Thanks,

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Re: [HOT] Posting Mapathon on Missing Maps Event Calendar

[Mike Thompson]

Pete, Dan, Ben, Rachel,

Thanks for all of your help.

How long after a pull request has been merged does it take for an event to
show up on the calendar?  The event I submitted still isn't showing up this
morning, even though Dan merged the pull request yesterday evening.  Or is
this due to the "issues we have on the website end" that Pete mentioned?

Mike

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:19 AM, Pete Masters <pedrito1...@googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all, that form is working. From the information, we essentially make
> the same pull request to github. So, if you are not confident with github,
> do use it and we'll sort out it out for you
>
> It might appear that the form is unresponsive, but it's actually due to a
> couple of issues we have on the website end!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 4:19 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Thanks!  I followed Ben's advice and made a pull request on the Github
>> repository.  Hopefully that works.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Dan Joseph <dan.b.jos...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> We're looking into who has access to those form submissions. In the
>>> meantime, and if it's not too late, I can happily add your event(s) to the
>>> website if you send me the details. Sorry about the delays and confusion.
>>> All the best,
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Benoit Fournier <ben.fourn...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> You may try https://github.com/MissingMaps/events
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the form is not in use anymore and should be removed.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > How does one get a mapathon posted to the event calendar here:
>>>> > http://www.missingmaps.org/events/
>>>> >
>>>> > I filled out this form:
>>>> > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScdvsMHLor8mrDrHa-B
>>>> Qs2XzFb96vIrx3u--LHXWd1g7RncPg/viewform
>>>> >
>>>> > several weeks ago with information about the event, but it still isn't
>>>> > listed.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike
>>>> >
>>>> >
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Re: [HOT] Posting Mapathon on Missing Maps Event Calendar

[Mike Thompson]

Dan,

Thanks!  I followed Ben's advice and made a pull request on the Github
repository.  Hopefully that works.

Mike

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Dan Joseph <dan.b.jos...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> We're looking into who has access to those form submissions. In the
> meantime, and if it's not too late, I can happily add your event(s) to the
> website if you send me the details. Sorry about the delays and confusion.
> All the best,
> Dan
>
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> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> You may try https://github.com/MissingMaps/events
>>
>> Maybe the form is not in use anymore and should be removed.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > How does one get a mapathon posted to the event calendar here:
>> > http://www.missingmaps.org/events/
>> >
>> > I filled out this form:
>> > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScdvsMHLor8mrDrHa-B
>> Qs2XzFb96vIrx3u--LHXWd1g7RncPg/viewform
>> >
>> > several weeks ago with information about the event, but it still isn't
>> > listed.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
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[Mike Thompson]

How does one get a mapathon posted to the event calendar here:
http://www.missingmaps.org/events/

I filled out this form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScdvsMHLor8mrDrHa-BQs2XzFb96vIrx3u--LHXWd1g7RncPg/viewform

several weeks ago with information about the event, but it still isn't
listed.

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[HOT] iD and Chromebook?

[Mike Thompson]

I am hosting a mapathon and I have been asked whether iD will run on a
Chromebook.  I assume it will, but I wanted to check to make sure.

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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager's Bounding Box not Showing in iD Editor

[Mike Thompson]

Bryan,

Thanks for your reply (and for your great work on the iD Editor)!

The event hasn't started yet, I am just testing and getting ready.
Nevertheless, it is possible that the request timed out.  During the actual
event I will simply have someone try again should this happen.

Mike

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Bryan Housel <br...@7thposition.com> wrote:

> The bounding box .gpx file is fetched in a separate request - maybe that
> request was blocked or timed out for some reason?  It’s definitely possible
> if the mapping event is saturating the network.
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 22, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am preparing to host a mapathon and so am testing out the project and
>> tools (normally I use JOSM).  It used to be that when you clicked "Edit
>> with iD" from the tasking manager iD would launch with a purple outline of
>> the bounding box of your selected/assigned task, but the bounding box is
>> not showing.  Any ideas?
>>
>> Environment:
>> Windows 7
>> Chrome 51.0.2704.103
>> Task #1978
>>
> Shutting down and retrying caused the box to show.  I would still be
> interested in hearing about a way to "force" the bounding box to show as at
> previous events I have had cases where the bounding box didn't show.
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager's Bounding Box not Showing in iD Editor

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On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am preparing to host a mapathon and so am testing out the project and
> tools (normally I use JOSM).  It used to be that when you clicked "Edit
> with iD" from the tasking manager iD would launch with a purple outline of
> the bounding box of your selected/assigned task, but the bounding box is
> not showing.  Any ideas?
>
> Environment:
> Windows 7
> Chrome 51.0.2704.103
> Task #1978
>
Shutting down and retrying caused the box to show.  I would still be
interested in hearing about a way to "force" the bounding box to show as at
previous events I have had cases where the bounding box didn't show.
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[HOT] Tasking Manager's Bounding Box not Showing in iD Editor

[Mike Thompson]

I am preparing to host a mapathon and so am testing out the project and
tools (normally I use JOSM).  It used to be that when you clicked "Edit
with iD" from the tasking manager iD would launch with a purple outline of
the bounding box of your selected/assigned task, but the bounding box is
not showing.  Any ideas?

Environment:
Windows 7
Chrome 51.0.2704.103
Task #1978

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Re: [HOT] scrolling round the map in JOSM on a Mac

[Mike Thompson]

It's been awhile, but I think this works:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac/how-right-click-on-mac-3610351/

(hold down the ctrl key and click)

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, john whelan  wrote:

> There's no right hand mouse button apparently so how do people do it?
>
> Thanks John
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Re: [HOT] HOT project 1913 - Sri Lanka Floods

[Mike Thompson]

Thanks Michael!  Good information.

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Michael Heißmeier <
michae...@digital-filestore.de> wrote:

> This custom imagery is the Mapbox layer (identical url). But unfortunately
> not all contributors use it.
>
>
> Mike Thompson, 2016-05-19 22:00:
>
> The project seems to have it's own custom imagery as this is what shows be
> default in both JOSM and iD.
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Michael Heißmeier <
> <michae...@digital-filestore.de>michae...@digital-filestore.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just validated a few tiles on this project and the main problem I can
>> see is this:
>>
>> The instructions tell us to align all buildings with the provided Mapbox
>> imagery but most buildings are aligned to Bing. There is a noticeable
>> offset between the two and I am realining buildings when validating.
>>
>> Please make sure you select the proper imagery when contributing to this
>> project (and probably others in this activation).
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [HOT] HOT project 1913 - Sri Lanka Floods

[Mike Thompson]

The project seems to have it's own custom imagery as this is what shows be
default in both JOSM and iD.

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Michael Heißmeier <
michae...@digital-filestore.de> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just validated a few tiles on this project and the main problem I can
> see is this:
>
> The instructions tell us to align all buildings with the provided Mapbox
> imagery but most buildings are aligned to Bing. There is a noticeable
> offset between the two and I am realining buildings when validating.
>
> Please make sure you select the proper imagery when contributing to this
> project (and probably others in this activation).
>
>
>
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Re: [HOT] HOT is activating to map for support of the relief efforts in Sri Lanka

[Mike Thompson]

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Russell Deffner  wrote:

> Mike, Claudia and all;
>
>
>
> As usual, you can help us ‘time’ things by adding a link, etc. to the
> incident wiki-page:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2016_Sri_Lanka_Floods#Mapathon_events
>
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Re: [HOT] HOT is activating to map for support of the relief efforts in Sri Lanka

[Mike Thompson]

Robert,

Thanks!

Mike

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> We have tasks 1914 and 195 already lined up, so worry not, you’ll have
> plenty to do :-) Our requested area of interest is massive so we broke it
> into three parts to make it more “digestible”.
>
> If task 1913 nears completion one of the tasking manager admins will
> “release” task 1914. If this is a concern mid-mapathon please contact Mikel
> Maron or Blake Girardot promptly and they’ll sort you out.
>
> Cheers,
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:52 PM Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Blake,
>>
>> We are having a mapathon this evening in Denver Colorado US.  We would
>> like to help out with Sri Lanka.  It looks like the #1913 is rapidly
>> progressing.  Will there be another similar Sri Lanka project posted, or is
>> #1913 cover the entire impacted area?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:23 AM, Claudia Mocci <mocc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Blake
>>> We have the second mapping meeting ,tomorrow night ,with
>>> SardiniaOpenData associates and volunteers and the topic is the Tasking
>>> Manager.
>>> This will be our priority.
>>> Happy to help and thanks to share
>>>
>>> Claudia
>>> Il 18/mag/2016 23:54, "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM" <
>>> blake.girar...@hotosm.org> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> I should have mentioned, please share this via your social media
>>>> channels.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a tweet from HOT to re-tweet:
>>>> https://twitter.com/hotosm/status/733050014931423236
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Blake
>>>> 
>>>> Blake Girardot
>>>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>>>> Vice President, HOT Board of Directors
>>>> skype: jblakegirardot
>>>> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
>>>> <blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:
>>>> > Sri Lanka has been hit in the past few days by flooding:
>>>> > https://www.bing.com/search?q=sri+lanka+flooding
>>>> >
>>>> > HOT has been asked to activate and immediately start tracing buildings
>>>> > by the Disaster Management Center (DMC) of Sri Lanka, who work closely
>>>> > with World Bank GFDRR. They are in urgent need of detailed housing
>>>> > unit information.
>>>> >
>>>> > There are links on the HOT Tasking Manager:
>>>> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/
>>>> >
>>>> > This is the earliest phase of response so we are actively working to
>>>> > find other actors on the ground that the HOT Community can collect and
>>>> > provide geo data for. This means that you should check the front page
>>>> > of the tasking manager often, different jobs to support different
>>>> > ground activities might be coming up.
>>>> >
>>>> > HOT members Robert Banick and Mikel Maron will be leading HOT's
>>>> > response to this crisis. They can be contacted at:
>>>> >
>>>> > mikel.ma...@hotosm.org
>>>> > rban...@gmail.com
>>>> >
>>>> > For more information visit the 2016 Sri Lanka Floods wiki-page:
>>>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2016_Sri_Lanka_Floods
>>>> >
>>>> > If you’d like to help with coordination, speak up, and we’ll bring you
>>>> > into the Slack channel and Trello.
>>>> >
>>>> > Regretfully,
>>>> > Blake
>>>> > 
>>>> > Blake Girardot
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Re: [HOT] HOT is activating to map for support of the relief efforts in Sri Lanka

[Mike Thompson]

Blake,

We are having a mapathon this evening in Denver Colorado US.  We would like
to help out with Sri Lanka.  It looks like the #1913 is rapidly
progressing.  Will there be another similar Sri Lanka project posted, or is
#1913 cover the entire impacted area?

Mike

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:23 AM, Claudia Mocci  wrote:

> Hi Blake
> We have the second mapping meeting ,tomorrow night ,with SardiniaOpenData
> associates and volunteers and the topic is the Tasking Manager.
> This will be our priority.
> Happy to help and thanks to share
>
> Claudia
> Il 18/mag/2016 23:54, "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM" 
> ha scritto:
>
>> I should have mentioned, please share this via your social media channels.
>>
>> Here is a tweet from HOT to re-tweet:
>> https://twitter.com/hotosm/status/733050014931423236
>>
>> Regards,
>> Blake
>> 
>> Blake Girardot
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>> Vice President, HOT Board of Directors
>> skype: jblakegirardot
>> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
>>  wrote:
>> > Sri Lanka has been hit in the past few days by flooding:
>> > https://www.bing.com/search?q=sri+lanka+flooding
>> >
>> > HOT has been asked to activate and immediately start tracing buildings
>> > by the Disaster Management Center (DMC) of Sri Lanka, who work closely
>> > with World Bank GFDRR. They are in urgent need of detailed housing
>> > unit information.
>> >
>> > There are links on the HOT Tasking Manager:
>> > http://tasks.hotosm.org/
>> >
>> > This is the earliest phase of response so we are actively working to
>> > find other actors on the ground that the HOT Community can collect and
>> > provide geo data for. This means that you should check the front page
>> > of the tasking manager often, different jobs to support different
>> > ground activities might be coming up.
>> >
>> > HOT members Robert Banick and Mikel Maron will be leading HOT's
>> > response to this crisis. They can be contacted at:
>> >
>> > mikel.ma...@hotosm.org
>> > rban...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > For more information visit the 2016 Sri Lanka Floods wiki-page:
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2016_Sri_Lanka_Floods
>> >
>> > If you’d like to help with coordination, speak up, and we’ll bring you
>> > into the Slack channel and Trello.
>> >
>> > Regretfully,
>> > Blake
>> > 
>> > Blake Girardot
>> > Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>> > President, HOT Board of Directors
>> > skype: jblakegirardot
>> > HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
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Re: [HOT] Japanese earthquake projects

[Mike Thompson]

I would also note that it looks like we have some relatively new (8 total
OSM change sets) mappers playing the role of validator and invalidating
tasks for things beyond the requirement of the project (e.g. "incorrect
paths set" when the project [#1844] only called for buildings).

Mike

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> I've been mapping and validating on Project 1800 but it doesn't make a lot
> of sense.
>
> The most difficult part to map is the built up areas with lots of very
> close buildings which in some ways I'd expect a city in Japan to have its
> own maps of buildings. Those tiles take time and lots of it.  The buildings
> are so close together that you really need the building tool to map them
> rather than squaring them afterwards.
>
> These tiles by the way still have a lot of buildings to be mapped even
> though the project says 82% complete I'd say we're only a third the way
> through the buildings.
>
> Then we have lots of tiles over the ocean, nothing there, and many many
> tiles over forest, again not much to map.
>
> Could someone expand a little more on who has asked for the mapping and
> what it will be used for?
>
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Re: [HOT] new release of iD!

[Mike Thompson]

Thanks for adding the terrain background options!  That will come in handy
when asking people to correctly map waterways (te determine the direction
of flow).

Mike

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Mikel Maron  wrote:

> iD 1.9.3 has just been deployed to osm.org
>
> Highlight is an improved imagery offset editor
> https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/724698730662907904
>
> You can see a full list of what's included at
> https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/1210
>
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Re: [HOT] Ecuador - More Projects?

[Mike Thompson]

Mhairi,

Sure thing!  Will do so this morning.  It was a last minute switch from
another project to Ecuador, otherwise I would have added it before the
event.

Mike

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:02 AM, Mhairi O'Hara <mhairi.oh...@hotosm.org>
wrote:

> Hey Mike,
>
> Could you please add details of the mapathon to the wiki page [1].
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mhairi
>
> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2016_Ecuador_earthquake#Mapathons
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Tyler,
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Is anyone else having a problem with custom imagery drawing very slowly
>> in iD?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Tyler Radford <tyler.radf...@hotosm.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike
>>>
>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1836
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 21, 2016, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We are planning a mapathon in Colorado US tonight.  Are there likely to
>>>> be more Ecuador projects suitable for newer mappers? I am attempting to
>>>> revise our instruction guide now.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
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Re: [HOT] Ecuador - More Projects?

[Mike Thompson]

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Suzan Reed  wrote:

> The image is very good and it does load slowly, but I appreciate having
> that kind of clarity.
>
This was not our experience. Below a certain zoom level it would load at
all.

>
>
> drawing Residential Areas around groups of buildings inside of the city,

In the past the way I have seen it done is each neighborhood / subdivision
gets its own landuse = residential closed way.  Granted that without local
knowledge, it is difficult to tell.  In any event, I agree that more
explicit instructions are needed.

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Re: [HOT] Ecuador - More Projects?

[Mike Thompson]

Tyler,

Thanks!

Is anyone else having a problem with custom imagery drawing very slowly in
iD?

Mike

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Tyler Radford <tyler.radf...@hotosm.org>
wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1836
>
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2016, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We are planning a mapathon in Colorado US tonight.  Are there likely to
>> be more Ecuador projects suitable for newer mappers? I am attempting to
>> revise our instruction guide now.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
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Re: [HOT] Ecuador: Done and Validated tasks need work and review

[Mike Thompson]

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Jo  wrote:

> In December I started to create some screencasts:
>
> https://www.twitch.tv/polyglot_openstreetmap/profile/highlights
>

Thanks, I will take a look at it.

I was more specifically interested in how successful people were in
training brand new mappers how to use JOSM. I assume that you have had good
success using these screencasts?

Mike

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Re: [HOT] Ecuador - More Projects?

[Mike Thompson]

Humberto,

Thanks!

The custom imagery is loading slow in iD, but seems to be ok in JOSM...
might just be my system.

Mike

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:41 PM, hyan...@gmail.com <hyan...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Mike,
>
> yes: http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1836 and
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1833
>
> Thanks for your contributions!
>
> Humberto Yances
>
> 2016-04-21 14:17 GMT-05:00 Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>:
>
>> We are planning a mapathon in Colorado US tonight.  Are there likely to
>> be more Ecuador projects suitable for newer mappers? I am attempting to
>> revise our instruction guide now.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
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[HOT] Ecuador - More Projects?

[Mike Thompson]

We are planning a mapathon in Colorado US tonight.  Are there likely to be
more Ecuador projects suitable for newer mappers? I am attempting to revise
our instruction guide now.

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Re: [HOT] Emergency Mapathon in Burlington, VT - Ecuador Earthquake

[Mike Thompson]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Suzan Reed  wrote:

>
>
> *1. Using the Area tool*
> a. Trace the exact outline of the building touching all four corners.
> Accuracy is important.
>
I am not sure where it should go in the instructions, but we want the base
of the building as it sits on the ground, not as it appears to the
satellite. For example, if a building has a peaked roof and the satellite
is not directly overhead ("off nadir"), the roof will make it look like one
end of the building is triangular.  We don't want that triangle traced.


> b. Identify a Building by the shadow it casts and the color of the roof.
> c. Buildings are often close together so be sure the corners do not touch
> (gray dot).
>
or overlap. Buildings should also not overlap roads or waterways in most
cases.


> d. Draw your Building as square as possible. Don’t make odd shapes.
>
Unless of course it is not square in reality.

>
>
> *2. On the left side of the Tasking Manager look for Building Features.
> Scroll down to Building and click.*
> a. This will designate your trace as a Building.
>
> The first time I think you have to click a second button that says
"building" to indicate that it is a generic building.

> *3. Next, **while the Building is still selected*
> *, press the ’s’ key. This squares the building and is an important step
> that must be done. *
> a. If the building isn’t selected when ’s’ is pressed, “shed” will show.
> Go back and reselect the building and then press ’s’ again.
>
"If nothing happens, your building wasn't drawn with corners that were
close enough to 90 degrees. Adjust the building and press 's' again"

>
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Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

[Mike Thompson]

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Paul Norman <penor...@mac.com> wrote:

> On 4/14/2016 1:16 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
>
> Those are both things that I already tell new mappers. But they type 's'
> and think they have made a square building.  We can talk about how that
> they should notice that nothing changed, but no one has ever asked me "why
> doesn't the 's' key work?" Perhaps they think that the squaring happens
> behind the scene and isn't visible? Who knows. Below are some of the
> results (blue buildings) from a recent mapathon.
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
> They're not attempting to square the buildings, which indicates a problem
> with how they're being instructed.
>
They were given 20 minutes of instruction / demonstration on a projector in
a classroom, as well as provided with written instructions.  I am certainly
open to - and always attempting to - improve my instruction.  But I feel
the instruction at this event was pretty good. In any event, having to
explain, "the 's' key will only work if you are reasonably close and there
is no error message" is just one more thing to explain and for the new
mappers to remember.

These are not the exact buildings as those were fixed during the mapathon
(sorry for the confusion), but at this mapathon I did walk over to more
than one mapper and watch them square a building with the 's' key, have
nothing happen, and then move on.  Most of the buildings they had drawn
were not square.  I pointed out the error and they did fix their buildings.
There should at least be an error message, something like "Failed to square
building, please redraw with angles 90 +/- 12 degrees"

>
>
> If all of those buildings have square corners in reality, there's a second
> problem that some are so crudely drawn that neither iD or JOSM will come up
> with a sensible result when attempting to do so.
>
JOSM will make the change, it may not match the imagery, but it will be
obvious that something has changed, hopefully prompting the user to make
adjustments and try again.

>
>

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Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

[Mike Thompson]

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Bryan Housel 
wrote:

> The threshold for squaring angles in iD is currently set to within +/-12
> degrees of right or straight.  This number was just chosen because it
> “feels” right, and still allows for buildings to have 15 degree angles and
> circular sections.
> https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1902
>
Thanks for the info, and again, thanks for creating the iD Editor.  It
really is an amazing tool.  The stuff we are talking about here are just
minor suggested tweaks.  Regarding the 12 degree limit, If a building
doesn't have square corners in reality (e.g. round or buildings with "15
degree angles") why would one ask any editor (iD, JOSM, etc.)  to square
them? I think JOSM will square almost anything. Sometimes the result isn't
what you want, but that is obvious as the way is changed by the tool -
often dramatically.

>
>
> My advice for tracing buildings with better precision is to 1. use a mouse
> and 2. zoom in more.   People very new to mapping often forget that zooming
> in makes it much easier to trace in detail.
>
Those are both things that I already tell new mappers. But they type 's'
and think they have made a square building.  We can talk about how that
they should notice that nothing changed, but no one has ever asked me "why
doesn't the 's' key work?" Perhaps they think that the squaring happens
behind the scene and isn't visible? Who knows. Below are some of the
results (blue buildings) from a recent mapathon.
[image: Inline image 1]

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Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

[Mike Thompson]

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Bryan Housel  wrote:

> Thanks Dale, I’m hoping to get this orthogonal drawing tool merged
> sometime next month.
>
> Being able to draw square buildings quickly in iD is a cool feature, but
> not as high priority as other things that we have been working on.
> Definitely take a look through the iD changelog at what we’ve been able to
> ship in the last few months, I’m really proud of the work done by our
> mostly volunteer contributors.
>
> Some points:
> - The squareness of buildings is not very important for rescue workers or
> other HOT partners.
> - Features can be squared or retagged very efficiently in JOSM.
> - When you see features drawn imprecisely in iD, it’s probably safe to
> assume that the user is using a laptop trackpad (i.e. no mouse), or worse,
> using a touch input device like a tablet.  Improving iD support for touch
> and pen devices is also high on my priority list.
>
> Bryan, Thanks for your great work on the iD Editor.  The new mappers whom
I have introduced to OSM through mapathons often comment about how easy the
process is!

A related issue with regards to the current squaring functionality is that
iD apparently will only square a building if it is already close to being
square. During mapathons we instruct mappers to draw the building and then
hit 's' to square.  Most of them follow directions, but the result is often
buildings that are not square because the tool didn't do anything, and
didn't warn the user that it wasn't doing anything. We now try to explain
that they have to check to make sure the tool did something, and if not,
attempt to redraw the building and click 's' again but that is more
details for them to handle, remember and execute.

Mike

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Re: [HOT] Squared buildings

[Mike Thompson]

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:11 AM,  wrote:

>
> Are non squared building really a big deal, apart from visually? Can we
> not live at least initially with building as traced?
>
If the angles are 90+/- some little bit I don't think it would matter.  The
problem is that once you remove the requirement for squaring some (usually
very new) mappers will draw grossly distorted buildings.  These are so
visually unappealing as to reduce the usefulness and trustworthiness  of
the map IMHO.

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Re: [HOT] How to become a validator (a suggestion)

[Mike Thompson]

On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 11:25 AM, john whelan  wrote:

> If you read through the wiki it specifically mentions highway=service.
>
> >By default, primary/secondary/tertiary/unclassified/residential and
> service highway =* are
> supposed to be paved.
>
It would be more clear and obvious if highway=service appeared in the table
with the other possible values, but I will accept this as indicating that
we should "highway=service" roads in Africa.


>
> When I'm validating then I consider I'm validating the work done by HOT
> mappers on this project on the tile.  Any previous work that was there
> before I consider governed by the general rules of OSM ie don't touch it
> unless its very clearly wrong and even then there is a long winded protocol
> that it is recommended you follow.  I certainly won't delete anything
> because it wasn't there on the image.  i can be helpful and looking
> at the number of edits the mapper has made can give you a clue as well.
>
Good advice

>
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Re: [HOT] How to become a validator (a suggestion)

[Mike Thompson]

John,

Last night I validated one of the tasks (I have done quite a bit of
validating before on a couple of other projects). I ran into these dilemmas:

1) If the instructions explicitly say not to map something (e.g. tracks)
but some were mapped and were done so correctly by the generally accepted
practices in OSM, do you leave them?  I did.

2) If something was mapped that the African Highway Tagging[1] doesn't
cover, but we might otherwise in the larger OSM map, what does a validator
do?  For example, highway=service. Does one "force fit" the mapped way into
the African Tagging (e.g. perhaps highway=service becomes
highway=residential), use what is generally accepted in OSM, or?

Thanks,

Mike

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa


On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:28 PM, john whelan  wrote:

> ​
> MSF have been doing some very interesting projects recently, for example
> one is http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1669 is just roads so if you fancy
> trying your hand at validation and have a copy of JOSM around try your hand.
>
> Cheerio John​
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[HOT] Humanitarian Mapathon - Longmont Colorado US

[Mike Thompson]

Front Range Community College (FRCC) Boulder County Campus will be hosting
a Humanitarian Mapathon at 5:00pm MDT (-6 UTC) on Wednesday 2016-04-13 at
Oskar Blues Brewery in Longmont.  Details are here:
http://www.meetup.com/OSM-Colorado/events/230153596/

 1) If you are in the Denver-Longmont area, please attend! This is the
first OpenStreetMap related event that FRCC has sponsored (that the
organizers know of). If you are experienced with OSM but don't have a
laptop, please attend anyway.  Your assistance with newer mappers will be
greatly appreciated!

2) Validators (remote or in person) are being requested.  We will be adding
#FRCC to our change set comments (along with meaningful information about
the actual changes made).  The Meetup announcement will contain the details
of the project to be worked on.

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Re: [HOT] Waterway - Determining Flow Direction

[Mike Thompson]

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Norman  wrote:

> On 4/5/2016 11:49 AM, Michael Heißmeier wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> there is another option which I occasionally use. Depending on the area in
> question you might find more-or-less outdated US military maps (JOG/AMS
> etc.) which have the advantage that there is no copyright associated with
> them. They tend to be fairly exact as far as terrain and waterbodies are
> concerned and sometimes are good sources for the names of such bodies as
> well.
>
> For your specific area the one to choose would be
>
> http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/jog/southern_africa/se-35-7-binga-southern_rhodesia-zambia.jpg
>
>
> The map you linked is copyrighted and published in 1972 by the Director of
> Military Survey, Ministry of Defense, United Kingdom, so we can't use it.
>
> Paul, thanks for pointing this out before I was able to start using it or
had worked it into the instructions for the mapathon.
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Re: [HOT] Waterway - Determining Flow Direction

[Mike Thompson]

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Ezra Boyd  wrote:

>
> -  Look for things like locks, spillways, bridges, etc. that would cause
> whitewater and use that to determine flow direction
> -  Rivers and streams tend to flow toward larger waterbodies, such as
> lakes, gulfs and oceans.  Look for things likes deltas to help determine
> flow direction
> -  Also, they tend to converge with other rivers & streams downstream.
> Look for the Y's where two rivers converge, with the being toward the base
> of the Y
> -  Rivers and streams tend to be wider downstream.
> -  Because of above, larger navigational vessels tend to be found
> downstream
> -  Because of the above, larger settlements tend to be found downstream.
>
Thanks Ezra.  All good advice.  I will caution that most lakes will have at
least one river/stream flowing away from them. The exception is a lake that
is part of an endorheic basin[1] such as the Great Salt Lake in the US.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorheic_basin

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Re: [HOT] Waterway - Determining Flow Direction

[Mike Thompson]

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Michael Heißmeier <
michae...@digital-filestore.de> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> there is another option which I occasionally use. Depending on the area in
> question you might find more-or-less outdated US military maps (JOG/AMS
> etc.) which have the advantage that there is no copyright associated with
> them. They tend to be fairly exact as far as terrain and waterbodies are
> concerned and sometimes are good sources for the names of such bodies as
> well.
>
Wow, this is an excellent source! Thanks.  Might it be a good idea of HOT
projects mentioned this source where available and appropriate?

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Re: [HOT] Waterway - Determining Flow Direction

[Mike Thompson]

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Blake Girardot  wrote:

>  seeing the area might help a bit to see if anyone has any tips.

The general area is that which is around this node:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4100183177 (note I have already mapped
the waterway which that node is part of using JOSM and OCM)


>
> whitewater points in the direction of flow, meaning it trails after the
> obstruction in the waterway.
>
Good tip!  I hadn't thought of that..  In this case these appear to be
intermittent waterways (albeit rather wide), and there is very little water
shown in the Bing imagery, let alone whitewater.

>
> you can also put the opencyclemap url into the custom background in iD,
> the url is:
> http://tile.opencyclemap.org/cycle/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png

I was trying to keep this simple, but this might be the way to go.

>
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Re: [HOT] Waterway - Determining Flow Direction

[Mike Thompson]

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:42 AM, john whelan  wrote:

> Quietly do the rivers before anyone starts in JOSM?
>
> iD has its limitations so I'd be tempted to either accept that waterways
> will flow the wrong way 50% of the time and hope the validators will
> correct it or don't bother to map the waterways in iD.
>
Thanks John.  Those may be the only options, even if they are far less than
ideal.

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[HOT] Waterway - Determining Flow Direction

[Mike Thompson]

When editing in JOSM I use the OpenCycleMap layer to help determine the
direction a waterway flows (OpenCycleMap has elevation contour lines).
However, I will be hosting a mapathon where the participants will be using
iD. How might one determine flow direction in iD?

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Re: [HOT] Request to those organising a maperthon.

[Mike Thompson]

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 6:51 PM, john whelan  wrote:

> If you notice that the project you're planning to use has an active
> validator please if possible give them some warning before your maperthon.
>
How do we tell if a project has an "active validator" other than looking at
the tiles that have been validated?

Mike

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[HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries

[Mike Thompson]

I am working on putting together a Humanitarian Mapathon at our local
public library (Loveland, Colorado, US).  This will be an event sponsored
by the library (we will not simply be using one of their meeting rooms) and
as such they will be publicizing the event on their website and through
their newsletters.  They do have a couple of questions:

1) Should they promote the event to "families" (e.g. young people
accompanied by parents). What should be the minimum age a) for young people
mapping independent of a parent, b) for young people mapping with a parent?

2) Can mapping be done on a tablet (e.g. iPad).  I know there are apps for
this, but will the iD Editor work on tablets, and how difficult is it to do
remote mapping on such a device?

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Re: [HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries

[Mike Thompson]

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Paul Norman  wrote:
>
> As a general rule, you should avoid anyone 13 and under as there would be
> legal hassles involved in targeting activities and signups to that age
> range.
>
> It is a library sponsored event, we are only a "guest presenter."  The
library would be the one doing the "targeting"


> The advantage of a tablet is has a GPS and can be where you are mapping,
> which avoids taking notes down and allows you to enter data in the field.
> It isn't well suited for remote mapping.
>
> Currently we are planning a Humanitarian Mapathon, so all mapping will be
remote. It sounds like tablets will not be workable for that situation.

>
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Re: [HOT] Mapathons at Public Libraries

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> Happy to see more mappers making use of public libraries and good on your
> library for sponsoring the event. Mapathons are a great compliment to the
> library makerspaces, have good mapathon infrastructure, and good staff
> support.
>
Should be a good change of pace from the brew pub setting we normally use.
It will be more family friendly, and folks that do not have a laptop can
use a library computer.

>
>  Bring your parents, too.
>
 Good point!  In the past we have had a few people say "I can't make it to
the mapathon, but my mom is retired and has lots of time, she would love
it!"

>
> There is no minimum age, per se. IIRC Courtney Clark/Peace Corps (cc'ed
> here) has some metrics around mapping productivity of differing age groups.
> While grade school children may not be as digitally adept as older kids,
> but they're still old enough to use a FieldPaper to do a bit of field work
> & sketch a map. Have fun.
>
Sounds like we should have gone for a local mapping event vs. a remote one
as it would give more of an opportunity to be hands on.  If this goes well
hopefully they will want to work with us again. We can also put in a
proposal to present about mapathons at one of their conferences in order to
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Re: [HOT] Fiji Cane Trains

[Mike Thompson]

Russ,

Thanks, that is very helpful, especially the part about the "shared way"

Mike

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Russell Deffner  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> A little off-topic on a Sunday Mapternoon :)
>
>
>
> I’ve been asked a few times; and was curious myself, but any local
> knowledge folks – please correct me if I’m wrong.  However, it does appear
> that the Labasa Cane Train is operating, at least at the time of the
> imagery.  If you look at the Labasa Sugar Mill (just on the east edge of
> town), you can actually see the sugar cane wagons.  I also think I found a
> caboose loaded up off to the northeast.  It’s really interesting because
> this is (I think – not an RR expert – at all) the ‘narrowest of all gauges’
> when it comes to locomotives, which makes it incredibly hard to see in
> imagery.
>
>
>
> Anyway, after looking at the pictures here:
> http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_transport_in_Fiji I was totally looking at
> those full wagons on the tracks thinking – what the heck is that – well,
> now you know :)
>
>
>
> On a mapping tip note – there are many sections where the train track is
> ‘in the road’/shared way – in that case, just tag the segment with both
> highway=* and railway=narrow_gauge
>
>
>
> Happy Mapping!
>
> =Russ
>
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Re: [HOT] Missing Maps User Stats

[Mike Thompson]

I figured it out, Fiji (1631) isn't a missing maps project, so my edits
don't show on the user stats page.

Mike

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is the user stats page working? It longer seems to be updating.  It says
> my (OSM user: tekim) last edit was on Tuesday, but I made edits yesterday
> (Wednesday). I have tried refreshing the browser cache.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:37 AM, Harry Wood <m...@harrywood.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> > Are you working on the site, or know where to report bugs?
>>
>> > The page JS is getting an error when I click the search icon:
>>
>> I reported that bug here:
>> https://github.com/MissingMaps/missingmaps.github.io/issues/78
>> There's been some work on it, but that's still a bug.
>>
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Re: [HOT] Missing Maps User Stats

[Mike Thompson]

Is the user stats page working? It longer seems to be updating.  It says my
(OSM user: tekim) last edit was on Tuesday, but I made edits yesterday
(Wednesday). I have tried refreshing the browser cache.

Thanks,

Mike

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> > Are you working on the site, or know where to report bugs?
>
> > The page JS is getting an error when I click the search icon:
>
> I reported that bug here:
> https://github.com/MissingMaps/missingmaps.github.io/issues/78
> There's been some work on it, but that's still a bug.
>
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Re: [HOT] "connecting" buildings

[Mike Thompson]

Blake,

Thanks for your quick response!

Of course we will do the mapping in the manner specified by those
requesting the data. However I do find that validating data where the
buildings share nodes is a little more difficult.  For example, if one of
the two buildings is not squared (in the data), when you do square it, then
the other building is likely to become out of square... The same type of
thing applies if one of the buildings needs to be rotated a little to
better match the imagery.

Mike

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> It is really generally true, but in dense urban areas often the buildings
> do share a wall. Hopefully we can get some feedback from the folks in Dar
> as to what is typical in that environment.
>
> One of the things that make dense urban mapping a challenge.
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
>
>
> On 3/8/2016 6:20 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
>
>> I think I found my answer, it was in the instructions for a different
>> project (http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1537):
>> "Many buildings are very close, but do not actually touch each other,
>> try to map them close to each other without letting them connect or
>> share nodes with each other, roads or residential area outlines."
>>
>> I had the wrong project, but should the above guidance to almost all
>> projects?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:miketh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I am refining my training for tomorrow's humanitarian mapathon at
>> the University of Wyoming where we will be mapping in Dar es Salaam
>> (#1446).  I recall reading somewhere that we shouldn't "connect"
>> buildings (i.e. two buildings sharing one or more nodes) unless we
>> are certain that they are connected in reality (since we are doing
>> armchair mapping, we would seldom know this). This makes sense to
>> me, but I want to sure this is the official guidance (and be able to
>> cite that guidance).  Can anyone point me to where that is documented?
>>
>> Mike
>>
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Re: [HOT] "connecting" buildings

[Mike Thompson]

I think I found my answer, it was in the instructions for a different
project (http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1537):

"Many buildings are very close, but do not actually touch each other, try
to map them close to each other without letting them connect or share nodes
with each other, roads or residential area outlines."

I had the wrong project, but should the above guidance to almost all
projects?

Mike

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am refining my training for tomorrow's humanitarian mapathon at the
> University of Wyoming where we will be mapping in Dar es Salaam (#1446).  I
> recall reading somewhere that we shouldn't "connect" buildings (i.e. two
> buildings sharing one or more nodes) unless we are certain that they are
> connected in reality (since we are doing armchair mapping, we would seldom
> know this). This makes sense to me, but I want to sure this is the official
> guidance (and be able to cite that guidance).  Can anyone point me to where
> that is documented?
>
> Mike
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[Mike Thompson]

I am refining my training for tomorrow's humanitarian mapathon at the
University of Wyoming where we will be mapping in Dar es Salaam (#1446).  I
recall reading somewhere that we shouldn't "connect" buildings (i.e. two
buildings sharing one or more nodes) unless we are certain that they are
connected in reality (since we are doing armchair mapping, we would seldom
know this). This makes sense to me, but I want to sure this is the official
guidance (and be able to cite that guidance).  Can anyone point me to where
that is documented?

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Re: [HOT] Difficulty in communicating with iD users

[Mike Thompson]

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Blake Girardot  wrote:

>
>
> I assumed there was an "unclassified" road icon in iD as the tag is
> highway=unclassified, however, iD calls that a "Minor Road" but gives it
> the highway=unclassified k=v.
>
> iD does have an icon for "unclassified road", does that not result in  a
k=v of "highway=unclassified"?
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Re: [HOT] Comment to HOT project managers about getting your project completed

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On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:18 AM, john whelan  wrote:

> I very rarely invalidate.
>
I am glad to hear that as it is my practice as well. I feel "Invalidation"
is very discouraging. Still, even when fixing and then validating it would
be good for those mappers who are interested in learning if there was an
easy way they could see what fixes the validator made.
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Re: [HOT] Comment to HOT project managers about getting your project completed

[Mike Thompson]

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 5:35 PM, john whelan  wrote:

>
>
> Maperthons are nice in that you get a lot of people but for data quality
> first time mappers aren't the best
>
I have run a number of mapathons and I have started going in to the project
after the event and validating work that I believe was done by people that
attended the mapathon (one can kind of match up real names with usernames
and/or use the time stamp of when the task was marked complete in the
tasking manager). It has given me some insight as to what to emphasize in
the mapathon instructions/training.


> and their productivity isn't anywhere near some of the more experienced
> mappers using JOSM.
>
I view the function of mapathons not so much for mapping (although we do
that of course), but to introduce people to OSM and humanitarian mapping so
hopefully they will continue to do this on their own. We don't want people
producing bad data, but small amounts of good data is ok if it means they
are being introduced to the project, having fun, and getting a sense that
they are contributing to a great cause.


> What isn't mentioned here is the feedback, it is important getting the
> tone right makes the difference between getting someone to map correctly in
> the future or saying forget this I'm off to play badminton.
>
Yes!  It is very discouraging for anyone, let alone a new mapper, to get a
negative comment. I always first tell them what they did right, and then
suggest ways they could do even better in the future. Also, if there area
only a few things wrong I fix them, validate the task, and then leave
feedback.

However what is the best way to give specific feedback to mappers when
validating? One can leave a comment in the task manager, such as "... some
buildings were missed", but they will not know which ones. I could drop a
note on an example, but do new mappers know about notes?

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Re: [HOT] Groups/areas of Trees=> leisure=park?

[Mike Thompson]

Emmor,

Thanks, that is what I thought.  I am not adding trees, I just noticed
someone else had and they had tagged them in a manner that didn't match the
common practice as I understand it.

Mike

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Vao Matua <vaoma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I would suggest that natural=wood should be the first tag, if the area is
> a park then the next tag could be leisure=park.  The OSM page on forest
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dforest>has good
> descriptions.
>
> In Ethiopia often the Orthodox churches are in the middle of a small
> church forests and would be tagged natural=wood, and land_use=religious.
>
> I love trees but would shy away from tagging individual trees except for
> landmark type specimen. There is a lot of mapping to do without mapping
> trees.
>
> Regards,
>
> Emmor
>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In #1544 (or in any HOT project) are we marking areas that are covered in
>> trees as leisure = park? Although it is not universally agreed upon, the
>> tendency in the rest of OSM is to tag these as natural=wood. See for
>> example [1]. Also, individual trees (represented as nodes) are tagged the
>> same way and normally those would be tagged natural=tree.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> [1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1544#task/67
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Re: [HOT] Tasking Manager - Comments

[Mike Thompson]

Thanks Nick!

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Nick Allen <nick.allen...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> It's a manual thing - there's an explanation about how to send messages,
> and a few other things as well, here;
>
>
> <http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/tasking-manager/#sending-a-message-from-the-comment-box>
> http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/tasking-manager/#sending-a-message-from-the-comment-box
>
> Regards
>
> Nick
>
> On 29/02/16 19:30, Mike Thompson wrote:
>
> When a task is validated does the user who marked the task as complete get
> a message?  I know if a task is invalidated they do.  In some cases there
> are only minor issues with a task, such as a building wasn't squared so I
> just fix it and validate the task, but it would still be good to provide
> some feedback such as "Good job, remember to square all buildings next
> time." Even if a task was done perfectly it would be a good thing if the
> user would get positive feedback.
>
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[HOT] Tasking Manager - Comments

[Mike Thompson]

When a task is validated does the user who marked the task as complete get
a message?  I know if a task is invalidated they do.  In some cases there
are only minor issues with a task, such as a building wasn't squared so I
just fix it and validate the task, but it would still be good to provide
some feedback such as "Good job, remember to square all buildings next
time." Even if a task was done perfectly it would be a good thing if the
user would get positive feedback.

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[HOT] Groups/areas of Trees=> leisure=park?

[Mike Thompson]

In #1544 (or in any HOT project) are we marking areas that are covered in
trees as leisure = park? Although it is not universally agreed upon, the
tendency in the rest of OSM is to tag these as natural=wood. See for
example [1]. Also, individual trees (represented as nodes) are tagged the
same way and normally those would be tagged natural=tree.

Mike

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Re: [HOT] Missing Maps User Stats

[Mike Thompson]

Blake, Dale,

Thanks!  I have made a few more edits since receiving Blake's email using
the corrected hashtag.  So far my user stats page isn't showing up, but I
will give it some more time.  Is #missingmaps case sensitve? Will
#MissingMaps be picked up as well?

Mike


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> Mike,
> For right now the Missing Maps site is only tracking users that make an
> OSM commit using the #missingmaps hashtag. If you use other hashtags at the
> same time those edits will be tracked as well.
>
> In the future we hope to allow tracking of all users and all hashtags.
>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The missing maps website now has a function when you can see your
>> contribution stats (or anyone else's)[1]. However, when I enter my OSM user
>> name (tekim) nothing happens.  Does one somehow have to connect one's OSM
>> user name to missing maps? I have made quite a few edits to the 
>> #hotosm-project-1544
>> over the past few days.
>>
>> Mike
>>
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[HOT] Missing Maps User Stats

[Mike Thompson]

The missing maps website now has a function when you can see your
contribution stats (or anyone else's)[1]. However, when I enter my OSM user
name (tekim) nothing happens.  Does one somehow have to connect one's OSM
user name to missing maps? I have made quite a few edits to the
#hotosm-project-1544
over the past few days.

Mike

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[HOT] Missing Maps: Dar es Salaam - Ramani Huria3

[Mike Thompson]

We had planned to use project #1446 for two upcoming mapathons (this
evening and tomorrow evening).  I just looked and even though it says 30%
complete, many of the tasks that are not marked complete either are
complete, or are nearly complete.  Could someone make a "Dar es Salaam -
Ramani Huria4" project?

Thanks,

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Re: [HOT] Fwd: [OSM-talk] HOT Fiji & 180th Meridian

[Mike Thompson]

Maning,

Thanks for the further information. In addition to the mapathon itself
(University of Northern Colorado), I am being interviewed about it, and I
anticipate this question will come up.

Mike

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:31 PM, maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Blake and Mike,
>
> I've started making contacts with Fiji NGOs on the ground.
> Fortunately, they said they are safe.  AFAIK, MapAction deployed
> already.  I'll get more news on the ground soon.
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:29 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Blake,
> >
> > Thanks!  That is very helpful!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Mike,
> >>
> >> Ideally, and typically we map in response to support organizations on
> the
> >> ground who request the map data from us for emergency relief and they
> >> provide us their priority areas. No one contacted us in this case and
> asked
> >> us for map data or provided priority areas so we did not officially
> >> activate.
> >>
> >> One of the community members (JGC) has been reviewing news and social
> >> media to determine impacted areas and I am working on a tasking manager
> >> project to support his suggested first priority area now (Koro Island).
> >>
> >> In this case the mapping we do will probably be used during the
> remainder
> >> of the relief phase and just as importantly for the recovery efforts,
> >> knowing what used to be where and planning during reconstruction (and
> used
> >> in insurance claims to cover reconstructions believe it or not).
> >>
> >> But without direct contacts on the ground we will be "mapping in to the
> >> blue" and will publish our resulting data sets on HDX
> >> (https://data.hdx.rwlabs.org/group/fji?sort=metadata_modified+desc) as
> well
> >> as using the HOT Export Server to generate gps device maps with building
> >> foot prints for relief workers.
> >>
> >> I expect the first Fiji project to come out shortly for Koro Island,
> which
> >> is small and only about 500-1000 buildings.
> >>
> >> The follow on Fiji projects will probably cover the north shore of Viti
> >> Levu as well as the small islands between Koro and Viti Levu.
> >>
> >> Since it is not an official HOT activation, it moves a little more
> slowly
> >> as we find people with the time to handle the process of reviewing
> damage
> >> reports, existing data sets, existing mapping, imagery and making TM
> >> projects.
> >>
> >> So I think the answer is we are supporting, but without any ground
> >> contacts it takes us a bit longer to get ramped up.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Blake
> >>
> >> On 2/23/2016 10:44 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What is the reason we are not supporting Fiji in the wake of Winston?
> is
> >>> it because their are somewhat well off and do not need our help? I ask
> >>> not just out of curiosity, but because I am likely to be asked at one
> of
> >>> the upcoming mapathons.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:bgirar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I am not sure what mapping HOT can do to support Fiji after the
> >>> typhoon, but this message to OSM-Talk is informative.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone is reviewing mapping or starts mapping there the below
> >>> linked to wiki page seems important to review.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to Richard <ricoz@gmail.com <mailto:ricoz@gmail.com
> >>
> >>> for pointing it out.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Blake
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Forwarded Message 
> >>> Subject: [OSM-talk] HOT Fiji & 180th Meridian
> >>> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 21:10:26 +0100
> >>> From: Richard <ricoz@gmail.com <mailto:ricoz@gmail.com>>
> >>> To: t...@openstreetmap.org <mailto:t...@openstreetmap.org>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> not sure what the situation on Fiji is but if there is a

Re: [HOT] Fwd: [OSM-talk] HOT Fiji & 180th Meridian

[Mike Thompson]

Blake,

Thanks!  That is very helpful!

Mike

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Ideally, and typically we map in response to support organizations on the
> ground who request the map data from us for emergency relief and they
> provide us their priority areas. No one contacted us in this case and asked
> us for map data or provided priority areas so we did not officially
> activate.
>
> One of the community members (JGC) has been reviewing news and social
> media to determine impacted areas and I am working on a tasking manager
> project to support his suggested first priority area now (Koro Island).
>
> In this case the mapping we do will probably be used during the remainder
> of the relief phase and just as importantly for the recovery efforts,
> knowing what used to be where and planning during reconstruction (and used
> in insurance claims to cover reconstructions believe it or not).
>
> But without direct contacts on the ground we will be "mapping in to the
> blue" and will publish our resulting data sets on HDX (
> https://data.hdx.rwlabs.org/group/fji?sort=metadata_modified+desc) as
> well as using the HOT Export Server to generate gps device maps with
> building foot prints for relief workers.
>
> I expect the first Fiji project to come out shortly for Koro Island, which
> is small and only about 500-1000 buildings.
>
> The follow on Fiji projects will probably cover the north shore of Viti
> Levu as well as the small islands between Koro and Viti Levu.
>
> Since it is not an official HOT activation, it moves a little more slowly
> as we find people with the time to handle the process of reviewing damage
> reports, existing data sets, existing mapping, imagery and making TM
> projects.
>
> So I think the answer is we are supporting, but without any ground
> contacts it takes us a bit longer to get ramped up.
>
> Regards,
> Blake
>
> On 2/23/2016 10:44 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:
>
>> What is the reason we are not supporting Fiji in the wake of Winston? is
>> it because their are somewhat well off and do not need our help? I ask
>> not just out of curiosity, but because I am likely to be asked at one of
>> the upcoming mapathons.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:bgirar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am not sure what mapping HOT can do to support Fiji after the
>> typhoon, but this message to OSM-Talk is informative.
>>
>> If anyone is reviewing mapping or starts mapping there the below
>> linked to wiki page seems important to review.
>>
>> Thanks to Richard <ricoz@gmail.com <mailto:ricoz@gmail.com>>
>> for pointing it out.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Blake
>>
>>
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: [OSM-talk] HOT Fiji & 180th Meridian
>> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 21:10:26 +0100
>> From: Richard <ricoz@gmail.com <mailto:ricoz@gmail.com>>
>> To: t...@openstreetmap.org <mailto:t...@openstreetmap.org>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> not sure what the situation on Fiji is but if there is any
>> HOT effort keep an eye on the
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/180th_meridian
>>
>> Luckily most tools were improved over the past few months
>> but keep in mind that there may be remaining problems and
>> fairly new or experimental versions of some tools are
>> required.
>>
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Re: [HOT] Beginner Project for Mapathon

[Mike Thompson]

Dale,

Thanks!  Yes, it is very exciting to see the first mapathon in Wyoming.  We
are just starting to promote the event, so we don't have a count yet, but I
would guess between 15 and 30.

Mike

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike,
> I'm happy to help out and get you a good task for the Red Cross. How many
> people are you expecting? Very excited to see our first mapathon in Wyoming.
>
> Dale
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The University of Wyoming in Laramie will be hosting their first mapathon
>> on March 9th. I am attempting to help them by selecting a project from the
>> tasking manager that would be suitable for those who have not been exposed
>> to OSM before (or in some cases have not done any mapping). Something like
>> the Swaziland malaria eradication projects would be ideal, but it looks
>> like those are nearly complete. Could someone recommend a few projects that
>> they could choose from?  If it was connected to the Red Cross or The
>> Missing Maps project that would be even better as the local chapter of the
>> American Red Cross in interesting in helping to promote the event.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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[HOT] Beginner Project for Mapathon

[Mike Thompson]

The University of Wyoming in Laramie will be hosting their first mapathon
on March 9th. I am attempting to help them by selecting a project from the
tasking manager that would be suitable for those who have not been exposed
to OSM before (or in some cases have not done any mapping). Something like
the Swaziland malaria eradication projects would be ideal, but it looks
like those are nearly complete. Could someone recommend a few projects that
they could choose from?  If it was connected to the Red Cross or The
Missing Maps project that would be even better as the local chapter of the
American Red Cross in interesting in helping to promote the event.

Thanks,

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Re: [HOT] OSM Tasking manaager #1129 imagery priority

[Mike Thompson]

Michael,

That is fantastic!  Thanks for pointing that out.

Mike

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Michael Heißmeier <
michae...@digital-filestore.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> in JOSM:
>
> right-click on the background imagery and select "show tile info" from the
> context menu. The lowest line contains the capture date of the current tile.
>
>
> David Groom, 2016-02-20 16:01:
>
> Yes, that was really my point.  perhaps I should have been more explicit.
>
> So my question is really which is the later imagery?  Bing or Worldview
>
> David
>
> On 20/02/2016 14:24, Mike Thompson wrote:
>
> John,
>
> I agree the most recent imagery should be used, but how do we know the
> collection date for the Bing imagery?
>
> Mike
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 7:14 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com> <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I imagine the most recent imagery should be used.  Some imagery is
> quite old so more buildings may have been built.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 20 February 2016 at 09:00, David Groom <revi...@pacific-rim.net
> <mailto:revi...@pacific-rim.net> <revi...@pacific-rim.net>> wrote:
>
> OSM Tasking manaager #1129  imagery priority
>
> When there is a difference between detailed Bing imagery and
> the WorldView-2, 07 Nov 2014; DigitalGlobe, NextView imagery
> which should take precedence?
>
> An example can be seen to the south west of the sports pitch
> here http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/10.13336/124.85114
>
> There are two small buildings north of the DepEd building on
> Bing, not seen on Worldview
>
> There is a small group of trees to the immediate west of The
> DedEd building on Bing, but buildings can be seen here in
> Worldview
>
> This is a minor, but easy to appreciate example. I have also
> come across quite a few buildings traced from Bing (and still
> visible on the Bing imagery), but there is no evidence of
> these on Wordview imagery
>
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Re: [HOT] Image offset issue #1515

[Mike Thompson]

I thought that perhaps there was another source of imagery for that task,
but this doesn't appear to be the case.  Mapbox satellite and Bing seem to
be aligned.  Some of the mapping was done some time ago, so perhaps the
Bing imagery was updated in the meantime. There are no GPS tracks in the
task area, and very little Strava. I checked some of the change set
comments to see if they might indicate what was done and why, but I found
nothing of use for this investigation.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Kretzer  wrote:

> Sorry, with the link it's easier to find:
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1515#task/30
>
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Februar 2016 um 23:41 Uhr
> > Von: Kretzer 
> > An: "HOT Openstreetmap" 
> > Betreff: Image offset issue #1515
> >
> > Hi,
> > I started some tracing in task #1515 (Mochendi, Botswana). I opened a
> tile (#30) with all roads and many buildings already in place, all somewhat
> offset from the Bing imagery. Between them they were very consistent, so I
> figured it would make more sense to align the image than move alle the
> existing features. This I did and traced the missing buildings to the
> realigned image.
> >
> > Now this tile is pretty consistent in itself but not to the adjoining
> areas. So what next?
> > Can someone check the georeferencing of the Bing image? Or should the
> whole content be moved to fit to the current imagery? I did not check the
> whole area, but many roads seem to be similarly offset and many buildings
> aligned to the current Bing imagery.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > K
> > (feeling confused at the moment)
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Re: [HOT] How to identify oneself when promoting a mapathon?

[Mike Thompson]

Thanks Heather!

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey Mike, you are with Hot as a community volunteer. Thanks for leading!
>
> Heather
> On 17 Feb 2016 07:10, "Mike Thompson" <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A local radio station has agreed to interview me and my co-organizer
>> about our upcoming mapathon and the University of Northern Colorado (US).
>> They will probably want to introduce me in a manner similar to "Next up is
>> Mike with ".  Is it permissible to say "...a
>> volunteer with the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team" even though I am not
>> formally a member of HOT? How about "... a volunteer with the Missing Maps
>> Project"?
>>
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[HOT] How to identify oneself when promoting a mapathon?

[Mike Thompson]

A local radio station has agreed to interview me and my co-organizer about
our upcoming mapathon and the University of Northern Colorado (US). They
will probably want to introduce me in a manner similar to "Next up is Mike
with ".  Is it permissible to say "...a volunteer
with the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team" even though I am not formally a
member of HOT? How about "... a volunteer with the Missing Maps Project"?

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Re: [HOT] project 1446 - Missing Maps: Dar es Salaam - Ramani Huria3

[Mike Thompson]

Paul,

Thanks! I will let my contact at UNC know!

Mike

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Paul Uithol <paul.uit...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> The informal settlements around Dar extend quite far - so we can continue
> putting up more tasks for a bit longer I think ;). Adding Innocent, who's
> our lead mapping supervisor for Ramani Huria.
>
> best,
> Paul
>
> On 09-02-2016 19:01, Mike Thompson wrote:
>
> I am assisting the University of Northern Colorado (UNC) with a
> humanitarian mapathon on Feb 25.  They would like to work on #1446, but we
> are concerned that it will be completed by the scheduled date of the
> mapathon.  Will there be a "Dar es Salaam - Ramani Huria *4*"?  I notice
> some blank areas on the map around 1446.
>
> Thanks
> Mike
> (tekim)
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Re: [HOT] project 1446 - Missing Maps: Dar es Salaam - Ramani Huria3

[Mike Thompson]

Innocent,

Thanks for your reply.  I have cc'ed Professor Jessica Salo of UNC who
hosting the event.

Jessica,

I will have limited connectivity after today and through Sunday, feel free
to communicate directly with Innocent and Paul with any questions you might
have about this project. I don't think there will be any, but I don't want
my absence to get in the way of progress on preparing for the mapathon.

Mike

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Innocent Maholi <innocentmah...@hotosm.org>
wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> The task #1446 is currently not much worked on, so you guys can use it for
> the remote mapping. But please let me know if you guys will need more tasks
> to cover as we'll make another TM projects like Paul have suggested that
> informal settlement extend quite far within Dar es Salaam.
> Thanks,
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Innocent Maholi
> Lead Mapping Supervisor | Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team | Dar es
> Salaam, Tanzania
> Mob: + <%2B255652250562>25571415 <http:///>
> Skype: innocent.maholi
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> Thanks! I will let my contact at UNC know!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Paul Uithol <paul.uit...@hotosm.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> The informal settlements around Dar extend quite far - so we can
>>> continue putting up more tasks for a bit longer I think ;). Adding
>>> Innocent, who's our lead mapping supervisor for Ramani Huria.
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 09-02-2016 19:01, Mike Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>> I am assisting the University of Northern Colorado (UNC) with a
>>> humanitarian mapathon on Feb 25.  They would like to work on #1446, but we
>>> are concerned that it will be completed by the scheduled date of the
>>> mapathon.  Will there be a "Dar es Salaam - Ramani Huria *4*"?  I
>>> notice some blank areas on the map around 1446.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Mike
>>> (tekim)
>>>
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[HOT] Getting a project on the Task Manager

[Mike Thompson]

As some of you know, I have helped Colorado State University in Fort
Collins CO US organize a couple of Humanitarian mapathons (results
visualization:
https://tekim.cartodb.com/viz/1f42eaae-cad0-11e5-8e5c-0ecfd53eb7d3/public_map
).

The University would like to align their humanitarian mapping with their
other humanitarian efforts.  What does it take to get a project on the
Tasking Manager?

Thanks,

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Re: [HOT] Field work this week - need help with validation on #1409

[Mike Thompson]

I fixed about 1/3 of the buildings.  If it has not been validated in the
morning I will resume.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Jim Smith  wrote:

> Blake,
> I'll be glad to help a bit on this project. I just opened
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1409#task/82 to validate it and almost
> all buildings are out of square. I know we should not invalidate tiles with
> a few items to correct but that one needs a major revamping. I'll poke
> around to see if I can find some that I can validate within the 1/2 hr to 1
> hr time I have available. Not sure what to do with #82 since you asked us
> not to invalidate it so I'll leave it for now.
>
> Jim Smith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Blake Girardot [mailto:bgirar...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 2:54 PM
> To: HOT 
> Subject: [HOT] Field work this week - need help with validation on #1409
>
> Hi all,
>
> Drishtie from the American Red Cross contacted me today.
>
> They are starting field work in Colombia this week and have a Tasking
> Manager mapping project that needs to be validated and fixed up a bit asap.
>
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1409
>
> Please only use the imagery that is provided, not Bing or Mapbox.
>
> The imagery is a bit of a challenge and the area is somewhat crowded, but
> not too bad.
>
> Please do not mark task squares "invalid" just fix them up, we are up
> against a deadline so we just need it fixed up and then validated, it
> probably won't get done if you mark it invalid.
>
> The couple that I looked at looked pretty good considering the imagery.
> I just tightened up a few buildings and added in a couple that were
> missing.
>
> You have to "squint" a bit to "see" the buildings, but it is doable.
>
> Any help would be most appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [HOT] shapefiles / geojson for projects

[Mike Thompson]

Thanks Blake!

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Mike,
>
> You can add .json to end of a project number to get the geojson of the
> project footprint. For example:
>
> http://tasks.dev.hotosm.org/project/789.json
>
> Cheers
> Blake
>
>
>
>
> On 2/4/2016 5:42 AM, Mike Thompson wrote:
>
>> I am trying to do some analysis to illustrate the results our mapathons
>> achieved. Are the outlines of the the HOT projects available in some
>> vector format, such as Shape files or geojson?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?

[Mike Thompson]

Here is another example:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394671191


On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, althio <althio.fo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> fences/walls.
>>
>  there are two continuous parallel linear features about three meters
> apart running more or less North-South. Based on the shadows these are the
> same height as the three features that run more or less East-West.
>
>>
>> Are you looking with a high zoom? It can be quite blurry and pixelated.
>>
> I have looked at it from several different zoom levels on both Bing and
> Mapbox.
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Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?

[Mike Thompson]

Henning, Robert,

Thanks for your input.

If there are three separate huts, they are connected by two north-south
running fences/walls. I am still of the opinion that it is the ruins of an
old building whose roof has collapsed.

Mike


On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:52 AM, Henning Bolz <heb...@web.de> wrote:

> Hi Mike, Hi Robert,
> looking at the picture i would guess: not one building, but three round
> huts in a row next to each other at very close distance.
> A similar hut can be seen 50m SE.
>
> Henning (hebolz)
>
>
>
>
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 02. Februar 2016 um 07:06 Uhr
> *Von:* "Robert Banick" <rban...@gmail.com>
> *An:* "Mike Thompson" <miketh...@gmail.com>, HOT <hot@openstreetmap.org>
> *Betreff:* Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?
> Hi Mike. I don’t know Swaziland very well but it doesn’t look like a
> building to me. A livestock pen perhaps but it’s a bit far from anything
> else and very small besides. Perhaps chicken houses? Or a waste pit?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 10:32 AM Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/394119391
>>
>> Looks to me like something that was a building once, but whose roof has
>> since collapsed. Perhaps someone on this list has on the ground experience
>> in a country like this (Swaziland) and can give us some insight.
>>
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Re: [HOT] building, construction, ruins, livestock pen or?

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On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 7:17 AM, althio  wrote:

> fences/walls.
>
 there are two continuous parallel linear features about three meters apart
running more or less North-South. Based on the shadows these are the same
height as the three features that run more or less East-West.

>
> Are you looking with a high zoom? It can be quite blurry and pixelated.
>
I have looked at it from several different zoom levels on both Bing and
Mapbox.
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