Re: [HOT] Using Wifi to make phone calls from mobiles using a router.

[Milo van der Linden]

Please contact http://www.servalproject.org their project focuses exactly
on this matter.

On Jan 11, 2018 12:59 AM, "john whelan"  wrote:

> The problem was mentioned some time ago in reference to a refugee camp in
> Europe.
>
> You need csip simple and to know the phone's ip address.  IP checker is a
> simple free app that will how this.
>
> "Just install csip simple and create a profile called "user", not linked
> to any server. To call another person with the same setup, you just need to
> know his ip address. Once they have sent it via voice, email, sms or
> whatsapp or ever (much better) a safer way like textsecure, you simply type
> "user@15.14.173 et cetera (basically user@ other person's ip) and their
> Csipsimple will ring. It works and it's the purest form of Internet. "
>
> It doesn't have to be called user by the way.  So John or Mabel will work
> fine.  You do need the ip address so to call John it would be
> John@192.168.2.99 mabel@192.168.2.33
>
> You do not need the router to be connected to the internet for this to
> work by the way.
>
> Cut and paste should work.  So stick the wifi router up high and you
> should be able to cover a fair range.
>
> Cheerio John
>
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Re: [HOT] [Osmf-talk] [hotosm-membership] Re: Code of Conduct Reminder

[Milo van der Linden]

I feel almost all friction on this list, right now and in the past, has
been between "those that want to organize" and those that do not want to be
organized.

The hot mailinglist is the only one in the openstreetmap lists I see this
happen.

Maybe somebody with a background in social behaviour could explain this
phenomenon, why it occurs and how it can be resolved?

On Dec 15, 2017 7:44 PM, "Dale Kunce"  wrote:

Just to clear the air. I misspoke in my initial post when I said the HOT
CoC would be enforced on this list. I've since learned that the HOT list is
not administered by HOT and thus our community crafted CoC does not apply
here. Note: it does apply to all other HOT communication channels,
including Tasking Manager, GitHub, slack, etc.

As Mikel said the existing OSM Etiquette rules, however, do apply in this
space.

My earlier statement of asking all community members of this list to think
twice about what you say on this list. This is not an effort to curb free
speech but instead to build a positive collaborative space to discuss.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Russell Deffner <
russell.deff...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I would prefer to participate in mailing lists that are governed by CoC
> and enforced by an organized group rather than individuals.
>
> =Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan S [mailto:danstowell+...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 11:11 AM
> To: Rafael Avila Coya
> Cc: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org; Mapa Nauta; hot@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [HOT] [Osmf-talk] [hotosm-membership] Re: Code of Conduct
> Reminder
>
> Hi
>
> It does seem to me that more clarity would be good here, i.e. slightly
> disentangling the lines of accountability regarding the hot@ mailing
> list.
>
> Mikel's response has logical sense, but it's probably not clear to the
> average participant in the hot@ mailing list whether they are
> automatically made a part of the HOT community. Whether the best
> clarification is to have two mailing lists, or for the info page
>  to make clear whether
> it is in general governed by HOT's rules, I don't know.
>
> Best
> Dan
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Re: [HOT] Code of Conduct Reminder

[Milo van der Linden]

Could we ask the OSMF if we can set up a humanitar...@openstreetmap.org
mailing list that is not subject of HOT restrictions and open to everyone
under the same rules and regulations of other OSM mailinglists?

2017-12-14 18:40 GMT+01:00 nicolas chavent :

> Dear all HOT Us Inc members, subscribers of the hot at openstreetmap
> mailing-list and OSMF members,
>
> There's is something weird in Dale Kunce (HOT US Inc President and OSMF
> member) in this email announcing that the HOT US Inc Code of Conduct
> https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct will be enforced on the hot at
> openstreetmap mailing-list (an OpenStreetMap mailing list to discuss uses
> of OSM in the humanitarian and development sectors [1]) which like other
> OpenStreetMap thematic mailing lists [2] (software development, tagging
> etc ...) and other discussions fora (wiki, forum etc) belong to the commons
> of the OpenStreetMap project and is regulated via the OSMF and the OSM
> members and is yet not subject to agreed upon and enforced CoC as
> reminded by the last OSMF election discussions [3].
>
> It would be beneficial for the regulations of the OpenStreetMap commons,
> that the President of HOT US Inc refrain from enforcing his own
> organization's conversational policy and procedures (which has never been
> voted by the HOT US Inc membership) over an OSM mailing list and narrow
> his focus and actions on the resources of his own organizations (membership
> mailing list, tools etc) or the conversations of the HOT US Inc membership.
> It would also be beneficial to assess and look at the moderation of the
> hot at openstreetmap mailing-list from a non HOT US Inc only perspective,
> shall we want this list to be the mailing list of anyone OpenStreeMap
> members (and not yet members) interested into the use of OpenStreetMap
> diversified and decentralized and not the list of only-one organization of
> the OpenStreetMap ecosystem active across the humanitarian and
> development sectors.
>
> Best,
> Nicolas
>
> [1]: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
> [2]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists
> [3]: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2017-
> December/subject.html
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Dale Kunce  wrote:
>
>> Earlier today someone on this list made some rude and disparaging remarks
>> about the iD developers. This is not the first time an outside supporting
>> group has been attacked by members of this list. Your words have meaning.
>> Your words can have far greater impact than you believe. One individual,
>> not elected, can have a huge negative impact that directly affects HOT's
>> mission.
>>
>> One of HOT's biggest fans and supporters has unsubscribed from this list,
>> rightly so, because of these attacks. The individual was and is key to
>> helping the OSM community with important technology tools that we need to
>> map better.
>>
>> I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone of the Code of
>> Conduct https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct. It will be enforced
>> and offenders will be asked to leave our community if you cannot help us
>> form a positive welcoming community. The Code of Conduct is not for some
>> special group to enforce the power of a strong CoC lies with the community
>> to enforce good positive communication norms.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
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>>
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>>
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Re: [HOT] Funding opportunity - social entrepreneurs

[Milo van der Linden]

Thank you!

2017-10-02 14:19 GMT+02:00 Donal Hunt :
> Here is the correct link: https://www.changemakers.com/creatingsharedvalue
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Milo van der Linden 
> wrote:
>>
>> The link is not working, can you please provide a correct one?
>>
>>
>> 2017-10-02 13:18 GMT+02:00 Rebecca Firth :
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> > The Nestle Creating Shared Value Prize is seeking global applications
>> > from
>> > social and private enterprises and non-governmental organizations (NGOs)
>> > solving issues in nutrition, water or rural development. The prize is
>> > for
>> > social entrepreneurs looking for avenues to scaling their ventures. The
>> > competition seeks to support and accelerate the growth of initiatives
>> > solving significant issues in water, nutrition and rural development. To
>> > be
>> > eligible for the prize, applicants should have a proven concept tested
>> > through a pilot or small-scale enterprise, have the potential to scale
>> > and
>> > be replicated in other communities, aims to make a social impact
>> > improving
>> > nutrition, enhancing rural development and access to clean water or
>> > water
>> > management, plus a viable business model.
>> >
>> >
>> > The deadline is Oct 31st. Happy to support reviewing any proposals if
>> > useful. You can apply at: www.changemakers.com/creativesharedvalue, or
>> > nominate businesses and social enterprises by emailing
>> > csvpr...@ashoka.org
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Rebecca
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > Community and Partnerships Manager
>> > rebecca.fi...@hotosm.org
>> > @RebeccaFirthy
>> > Skype: rebeccafirth
>> >
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>> > Using OpenStreetMap for Humanitarian Response & Economic Development
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Re: [HOT] Funding opportunity - social entrepreneurs

[Milo van der Linden]

The link is not working, can you please provide a correct one?


2017-10-02 13:18 GMT+02:00 Rebecca Firth :
> Hi,
>
>
> The Nestle Creating Shared Value Prize is seeking global applications from
> social and private enterprises and non-governmental organizations (NGOs)
> solving issues in nutrition, water or rural development. The prize is for
> social entrepreneurs looking for avenues to scaling their ventures. The
> competition seeks to support and accelerate the growth of initiatives
> solving significant issues in water, nutrition and rural development. To be
> eligible for the prize, applicants should have a proven concept tested
> through a pilot or small-scale enterprise, have the potential to scale and
> be replicated in other communities, aims to make a social impact improving
> nutrition, enhancing rural development and access to clean water or water
> management, plus a viable business model.
>
>
> The deadline is Oct 31st. Happy to support reviewing any proposals if
> useful. You can apply at: www.changemakers.com/creativesharedvalue, or
> nominate businesses and social enterprises by emailing csvpr...@ashoka.org
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rebecca
>
>
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> Community and Partnerships Manager
> rebecca.fi...@hotosm.org
> @RebeccaFirthy
> Skype: rebeccafirth
>
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Re: [HOT] [MissingMaps] HOT is activating for Hurricane Irma

[Milo van der Linden]

Thank you for the responses. I have passed the word to my contacts on Curacao.

2017-09-07 16:55 GMT+02:00 Blake Girardot HOT/OSM :
> Hi Milo,
>
> Maarten created projects for those, or coordinated them I think.
>
> They are all 100% mapped and 100% validated
>
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3491
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3486
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3485
>
> They are currently archived.
>
> Please let us know if those do not cover all the areas you need.
>
> We will generate an export for them so you can download the data for
> them them as a whole for gis, gps, mobile usage.
>
> Respectfully
> blake
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Milo van der Linden  
> wrote:
>> Can we please have a project for Sint Maarten/St. Martin too?
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2017 11:52, "Matt Sims"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Blake, all,
>>>
>>> Just to let you know MapAction deployed a two person team yesterday to
>>> support the UNDAC team in Barbados and we are send a team out to Haiti
>>> this
>>> evening.
>>>
>>> Where we can we'll feedback anything useful to you all.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> Matt Sims
>>> Deployments Coordinator
>>>
>>> Mapping for people in crisis
>>> Clare Charity Centre, Wycombe Road, Saunderton, Buckinghamshire HP14 4BF
>>> t: +44 (0)1494 568 899 | s: macsims4780
>>> mapaction.org | mas...@mapaction.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Blake Girardot HOT/OSM [mailto:blake.girar...@hotosm.org]
>>> Sent: 07 September 2017 08:08
>>> To: HOT
>>> Subject: [MissingMaps] HOT is activating for Hurricane Irma
>>>
>>> Dear friends,
>>>
>>> HOT has activated to support the Hurricane Irma response. We have good
>>> contacts with local responding organizations and international responding
>>> orgs.
>>>
>>> I am working on announcing it more widely, it was just done in the last
>>> few
>>> hours and trying to get people to help with the activation.
>>>
>>> We are working through the assessment of the activation protocol, but
>>> considering all of the current situation, it is affecting a wide scale
>>> area,
>>> a storm of great magnitude and we have good contacts with responding
>>> organizations. We do not have any specific requests yet. We reviewed
>>> Copernicus covered delineation maps and Copernicus rated as no damage and
>>> they were well mapped.
>>>
>>> We are working off of the various hurricane forecasting products, like the
>>> National Hurricane Center to focus and prioritize the mapping while we
>>> monitor the international local response channels for help with
>>> prioritization.
>>>
>>> Expect projects to change fast and often the priory area in a project will
>>> change, please review instructions often as they may keep you updated on
>>> the
>>> project.
>>>
>>> We have focused so far on the Leeward Islands, which were already very
>>> well
>>> mapped, but we have filled in, fixed minor issues and validated 3 island
>>> groups so far which will be pushed to HDX
>>>
>>> OpenStreetMap US has also started reviewing road data in the most likely
>>> affect counties.
>>>
>>> Please spread the word.
>>>
>>> The URL for Irma projects is: http://bit.ly/IrmaMapProjects
>>>
>>> The tweet announcing it to retweet is:
>>> https://twitter.com/hotosm/status/905612899867119616
>>>
>>> Dale, Nate, Mhairi and myself are working the activation primarily.
>>>
>>> The coordination channel is on our slack, but we are happy to keep IRC
>>> updated as well.
>>>
>>> Join the team ( https://hotosm-slack.herokuapp.com/ ) and then /join
>>> #disaster-mapping if you want to help with or watch the activation
>>> coordination.
>>>
>>> Mhairi created the OSM wiki page for this activation:
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2017_Hurricane_Irma
>>>
>>> I believe that the Haiti-Talk list has some traffic related to prep for
>>> how
>>> this might affect Haiti and it would be really helpful if speakers of
>>> French
>>> would join that list to help keep the two communities well connected. (
>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht )
>>>
>>> Respe

Re: [HOT] [MissingMaps] HOT is activating for Hurricane Irma

[Milo van der Linden]

Can we please have a project for Sint Maarten/St. Martin too?

On Sep 7, 2017 11:52, "Matt Sims"  wrote:

> Hi Blake, all,
>
> Just to let you know MapAction deployed a two person team yesterday to
> support the UNDAC team in Barbados and we are send a team out to Haiti this
> evening.
>
> Where we can we'll feedback anything useful to you all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matt
>
> Matt Sims
> Deployments Coordinator
>
> Mapping for people in crisis
> Clare Charity Centre, Wycombe Road, Saunderton, Buckinghamshire HP14 4BF
> t: +44 (0)1494 568 899 | s: macsims4780
> mapaction.org | mas...@mapaction.org
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Blake Girardot HOT/OSM [mailto:blake.girar...@hotosm.org]
> Sent: 07 September 2017 08:08
> To: HOT
> Subject: [MissingMaps] HOT is activating for Hurricane Irma
>
> Dear friends,
>
> HOT has activated to support the Hurricane Irma response. We have good
> contacts with local responding organizations and international responding
> orgs.
>
> I am working on announcing it more widely, it was just done in the last few
> hours and trying to get people to help with the activation.
>
> We are working through the assessment of the activation protocol, but
> considering all of the current situation, it is affecting a wide scale
> area,
> a storm of great magnitude and we have good contacts with responding
> organizations. We do not have any specific requests yet. We reviewed
> Copernicus covered delineation maps and Copernicus rated as no damage and
> they were well mapped.
>
> We are working off of the various hurricane forecasting products, like the
> National Hurricane Center to focus and prioritize the mapping while we
> monitor the international local response channels for help with
> prioritization.
>
> Expect projects to change fast and often the priory area in a project will
> change, please review instructions often as they may keep you updated on
> the
> project.
>
> We have focused so far on the Leeward Islands, which were already very well
> mapped, but we have filled in, fixed minor issues and validated 3 island
> groups so far which will be pushed to HDX
>
> OpenStreetMap US has also started reviewing road data in the most likely
> affect counties.
>
> Please spread the word.
>
> The URL for Irma projects is: http://bit.ly/IrmaMapProjects
>
> The tweet announcing it to retweet is:
> https://twitter.com/hotosm/status/905612899867119616
>
> Dale, Nate, Mhairi and myself are working the activation primarily.
>
> The coordination channel is on our slack, but we are happy to keep IRC
> updated as well.
>
> Join the team ( https://hotosm-slack.herokuapp.com/ ) and then /join
> #disaster-mapping if you want to help with or watch the activation
> coordination.
>
> Mhairi created the OSM wiki page for this activation:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2017_Hurricane_Irma
>
> I believe that the Haiti-Talk list has some traffic related to prep for how
> this might affect Haiti and it would be really helpful if speakers of
> French
> would join that list to help keep the two communities well connected. (
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ht )
>
> Respectfully,
> Blake
>
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Re: [HOT] Disaster Routing

[Milo van der Linden]

You might be able to use the disaster service API from a desktop GIS:
https://disaster-api.openrouteservice.org/disaster1/routes?api_key=&coordinates=3.691406,7.536764%7C4.658203,8.233237%7C6.437988,7.547656&elevation=false&extra_info=surface%7Cwaytype%7Csuitability&geometry=true&geometry_format=geojson&instructions=true&instructions_format=html&language=en-US&options=%7B%7D&preference=fastest&profile=driving-car&units=m

Would that be convenient?


2017-07-14 16:23 GMT+02:00 Thomas Kandler :

> Dear HOT community,
>
> I would greatly appreciate input about the current state of disaster
> routing tools. Personally, I know the excellent
> disaster.openrouteservice.org, but that's about it. Are there any other
> (open source) tools capable of routing with a straight-forward
> obstruction/impassable roads interface? Especially in the realm of
> offline/Desktop mapping I couldn't find anything.
>
> Thanks a bunch & have a great day.
>
> Best
> Thomas
>
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Re: [HOT] Malaria Mapping YouthMappers Challenge

[Milo van der Linden]

Yesterday I met the folks from https://denguehack.org and with ICM-Jamaica
we been looking at Zika.

Wouldn't it be great if we could go for a "Mosquito Borne Diseases"
challenge to attract a wider audience and given it is the same breed of
mosquito that we are targeting?

Kind regards,

Milo

Op 6 mrt. 2017 17:09 schreef "Russell Deffner" :

> Greetings HOT Community,
>
>
>
> Today we are launching a challenge for youthmappers chapters to help us
> map to eliminate malaria. If you or someone you know is part of a
> youthmapper chapter anywhere in the world, please feel free to forward
> along this link: https://hotosm.org/updates/2017-03-06_malaria_mapping_
> youthmappers_challenge
>
>
>
> Just need to have one member of the chapter register on a short google
> form, then use a unique hashtag for your group in your changeset comment
> for your edits to count.
>
>
>
> *Register your group here*
> ,
> mapping projects are found here
> ,
> please map projects created by ‘russdeffner’.
>
>
>
> Any questions, please ask;
>
> =Russ
>
>
>
> Russell Deffner
>
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[HOT] Plug - The Jamaica August Town Community is using OSM to attract tourism

[Milo van der Linden]

https://youtu.be/BV9q5L_dqYk please like their video and maybe even visit
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[HOT] A new year, a new video?

[Milo van der Linden]

Hi all,

Just wondering; is my video from the HOT summit 2016 so bad HOT inc should
fire the video-crew or never invite me to speak again?

Can I suggest to ask the "regular" Openstreetmap video dudes and dudettes
to cover this year HOT summit?

Cheerio!

;-)

Happy Sint-Jutemis!
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Re: [HOT] Hot summit videos

[Milo van der Linden]

Thank you Tyler for the quick response! I have signed up for the working
group Skype and will try to help reviewing the videos.

2016-11-30 22:07 GMT+01:00 Tyler Radford :

> Hi Milo and all,
>
> Thanks to everyone who has waited patiently for the remaining HOT Summit
> videos. I just saw a note that the video production company has delivered
> all of them to HOT as of today (minus two which he is working on tracking
> down). The Summit working group is doing a quick review and will get them
> online shortly. Milo in case you or anyone else would like to help with the
> review you can join the Summit working group skype:
> https://join.skype.com/yP5ub5dwHxVa
>
> Tyler
>
> *Tyler Radford*
> Executive Director
> tyler.radf...@hotosm.org
> @TylerSRadford
>
> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team*
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>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Milo van der Linden 
> wrote:
>
>> Any estimate when the remaining hot summit videos appear online? Or has
>> hot ran cold? Should we organize a missingvideos event ;-)?
>>
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[Milo van der Linden]

Any estimate when the remaining hot summit videos appear online? Or has hot
ran cold? Should we organize a missingvideos event ;-)?

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Re: [HOT] Surveying Helicopter Landing Zones (HLZs)

[Milo van der Linden]

Maybe adopt the healthsites.io (or ushahidi) model, where functionality for
verification by trusted people is added on top and outside the
openstreetmap database.

Op 7 nov. 2016 5:39 p.m. schreef "Pierre Béland" :

> Hi Denis
>
> In the context of Humanitarian Responses, there are various situations
> were we have specific requests. We accepted for the Nepal response to spot
> eventual helicopter landing zones. We did setup a Skype room to discuss
> with people with experience with helicopters.  Often in the context of such
> emergencies, we dont necessarily have the contact with the persons that
> would use the data or any feedback.
>
> But the interface with operationals in the field is essential. This is
> something we should improve. If organizations want to work with us to do
> such tasks, they should interface and assure we can progress rapidly with
> quality data.
>
> For the Vanuatu response, I had the opportunity to share my screen from
> Skype with an airport controller to validate each landing field on the
> various islands. This was an efficient, rapid way to validate the data, and
> adjust if necessary. We could evaluate if this was a valid landing zone,
> evaluate the lenght of the runway and revise the tags.
>
> If there are any interest to repeat such experiments, I agree, we need
> this type of discussion with organizations that actively fly helicopters &
> planes within the affected areas.
>
> Private tasks could be setup to reserve the access to experienced
> contributors that have been trained to do such jobs.
>
> regard
>
> Pierre
>
>
> --
> *De :* Denis Carriere 
> *À :* "hot@openstreetmap.org" 
> *Cc :* Jack Reid ; Kathmandu Living Labs
> ; Jennifer Bottrell 
> *Envoyé le :* lundi 7 novembre 2016 10h29
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Surveying Helicopter Landing Zones (HLZs)
>
> During the Nepal earthquake relief effort, mapping HLZs (Helicopter
> Landing Zones) did not seem very coordinated, many factors need to be taken
> into consideration to properly define a HLZ. I can confirm that very little
> of the OpenStreetMap HLZ data was not used for any mission planning by any
> NGO, Government or UN aid during my time in Nepal.
>
> However, it would be great to open this type of discussion with
> organizations that actively fly helicopters & planes within these affected
> areas. Most of these organizations already have a their own HLZ data with
> tons of precise attributes associated with the particular HLZ & terrain
> data.
>
> Before any mapping happens, we should properly define a HLZ OSM Wiki page
> to clearly define how to map an HLZ.
>
> https://gist.github.com/aaronpdennis/b4ce2012749bb025b886 (Humanitarian
> purposed tags)
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Helicopter_landing_zone (Not defined)
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency:helipad (Not defined)
>
> *@MAF & @MountainChild @KLL: *It would be great to have your input on
> this topic.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> *~~*
> *Denis Carriere*
> *GIS Software & Systems Specialist*
>
> *Twitter: @DenisCarriere*
> *OSM: DenisCarriere*
> GitHub: DenisCarriere
> Email: carriere.de...@gmail.com
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
> blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> I worked a lot on this issue during the Nepal 2015 response.
>
> What you propose sounds great. We had a lot of difficulty trying to do
> this via the tasking manager for several reasons.
>
> I would love to speak with you more about it, maybe we could chat via
> skype.
>
> Cheers,
> Blake
> -- --
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> President, HOT Board of Directors
> skype: jblakegirardot
> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Keith Darby  wrote:
> > All:
> >
> > I am a retired Marine Corps Helicopter Pilot, and a current Masters
> Candidate in GIS Technologies at USC.
> >
> > I am working on my thesis, which is based on the premise that
> crowd-sourced geospatial information, if properly structured, could aid
> aircrews in surveying potential HLZs for disaster response.
> >
> > The work flow would be as follows:
> >
> > (1) Helicopter planners and aircrews would select potential HLZs in a
> disaster-affected region, using whatever mission planning GISystem at their
> disposal (normally baed on remote sensing data)
> >
> > (2) Those proposed HLZs would be uploaded to OSM.
> >
> > (3) Volunteers could select one of those HLZs and conduct a ground-truth
> survey, following a script (that I would develop).
> >
> > (4) Those surveys would be uploaded to OSM and validated.
> >
> > (5) the Helicopter mission planners and aircrews could use those surveys
> to select the best zones for disaster relief operations.
> >
> > I am looking at using the towns of Honokaa and Waimea on the northern
> end of the Big Island of Hawaii as my study area, as I live close by, and I
> have the local Community Emergency Respon

Re: [HOT] Videos online

[Milo van der Linden]

Ok, thank you.

2016-11-07 9:53 GMT+01:00 Nate Smith :

> Hi Milo - yes, there are a few videos that are not online yet. We’re
> waiting for those videos to be finalized by the video production company.
> They should be online this week.
>
> Nate
>
>
> Nate Smith
> @nas_smith <https://twitter.com/nas_smith>
>
> On November 7, 2016 at 9:07:57 AM, Milo van der Linden (m...@dogodigi.net)
> wrote:
>
> Yesterday, in weeklyosm, I read that the videos from the summit are
> online. I am however still missing the video from my talk. Any estimate on
> when all videos will be available?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Milo
>
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[HOT] Videos online

[Milo van der Linden]

Yesterday, in weeklyosm, I read that the videos from the summit are online.
I am however still missing the video from my talk. Any estimate on when all
videos will be available?

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Re: [HOT] Surveying Helicopter Landing Zones (HLZs)

[Milo van der Linden]

Hello Keith,

During the Nepal earthquake, the 'armchair mappers' where asked to draw
circles on the aerial images in openstreetmap with a given diameter,
visually selecting flat areas that where clear of buildings, trees and
rocks. I think this would be a combination of your 1 and 2.
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1023

3 would then not be uploading, but tagging the landing-zones with a certain
quality based upon ground truth (making 4 unecessary). This could be done
by people on site with a variety of (mobile/tablet) openstreetmap editors.

5 has been done in the Nepal situation already as far as I know.
https://opensource.com/life/15/5/nepal-earthquake-hfoss

In my opinion, HOT is an open community. You are free to conduct your study
and I hope you will be thrilled by the unlimited possibilities of the
openstreetmap data-model.

Good luck and have fun!

2016-11-04 17:55 GMT+01:00 Keith Darby :

> All:
>
> I am a retired Marine Corps Helicopter Pilot, and a current Masters
> Candidate in GIS Technologies at USC.
>
> I am working on my thesis, which is based on the premise that
> crowd-sourced geospatial information, if properly structured, could aid
> aircrews in surveying potential HLZs for disaster response.
>
> The work flow would be as follows:
>
> (1) Helicopter planners and aircrews would select potential HLZs in a
> disaster-affected region, using whatever mission planning GISystem at their
> disposal (normally baed on remote sensing data)
>
> (2) Those proposed HLZs would be uploaded to OSM.
>
> (3) Volunteers could select one of those HLZs and conduct a ground-truth
> survey, following a script (that I would develop).
>
> (4) Those surveys would be uploaded to OSM and validated.
>
> (5) the Helicopter mission planners and aircrews could use those surveys
> to select the best zones for disaster relief operations.
>
> I am looking at using the towns of Honokaa and Waimea on the northern end
> of the Big Island of Hawaii as my study area, as I live close by, and I
> have the local Community Emergency Response Team (volunteers) willing to
> support.
>
> Who do I need to talk to about getting HOT permission to conduct a limited
> objective study in this area?
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [HOT] Showcases - What has been done with HOT's effort

[Milo van der Linden]

Positive economic benefit studies to the local population on Jamaica:

http://caribbeanopeninstitute.org/node/155
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/news/20160909/community-tourism-app-coming-august-town#.V9LpWsmOZ30.twitter
http://blogs.iadb.org/abierto-al-publico/2016/08/04/how-open-data-can-improve-tourism-in-the-caribbean/

2016-10-28 10:49 GMT+02:00 Pete Masters :

> Hi,
>
> If anyone has any information or studies on this from John: *I'm sure
> there are studies that can show these bring a positive economic benefit to
> the local population, *I would love to see it...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Martin Noblecourt <
> m_nobleco...@cartong.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Felix,
>>
>> Regarding what we've been involved with:
>>
>>- MSF case study written with CartONG on GIS response to the Ebola
>>crisis (inc. many aspects on OSM): http://cartong.org/news/update
>>-msf-case-study-gis-ebola-response
>><http://cartong.org/news/update-msf-case-study-gis-ebola-response>
>>- Several case studies as part of the UAV research project conducted
>>by FSD, CartONG, Zoi Network and UAViator, particularly in Haiti (with
>>COSMHA: http://drones.fsd.ch/en/case-study-no-6-mapping-rapid-damage
>>-assessments-of-tabarre-and-surrounding-communities-in-
>>haiti-following-hurricane-sandy/
>>
>> <http://drones.fsd.ch/en/case-study-no-6-mapping-rapid-damage-assessments-of-tabarre-and-surrounding-communities-in-haiti-following-hurricane-sandy/>)
>>and Tanzania (http://drones.fsd.ch/en/case-
>>study-no-1-mapping-flood-mapping-for-disaster-risk-reduction
>>-obtaining-high-resolution-imagery-to-map-and-model-
>>flood-risks-in-dar-es-salaam/
>>
>> <http://drones.fsd.ch/en/case-study-no-1-mapping-flood-mapping-for-disaster-risk-reduction-obtaining-high-resolution-imagery-to-map-and-model-flood-risks-in-dar-es-salaam/>
>>)
>>- All the stories on the Missing Maps blog:
>>http://www.missingmaps.org/blog/ <http://www.missingmaps.org/blog/>
>>- CartONG supported one of the phases of the UAV implementation in
>>2014, it was an opportunity to record a video highlighting the work done 
>> by
>>the local community & IOM: http://cartong.org/activity/co
>>mmunautary-mappinguav-project-haiti#
>><http://cartong.org/activity/communautary-mappinguav-project-haiti#>
>>- A short feedback on the OSM training we conducted in Madagascar
>>last year (in French only, sorry): http://cartong.org/news/premie
>>r-retour-sur-la-mission-osm-madagascar
>><http://cartong.org/news/premier-retour-sur-la-mission-osm-madagascar>
>>
>> Feel free to publish them as long as you include links to the original
>> posts and authors.
>>
>> As CartONG we always try to document & highlight the usefulness of the
>> work done by the OSM communities & the data they produce... when we can (it
>> is not always possible for budget & time reasons unfortunately).
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Martin
>> On 27/10/2016 21:52, hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:11:52 +0200
>> From: Felix Delattre  
>> To: hot@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Showcases - What has been done with HOT's effort
>> Message-ID: <744ef5eb-0467-aa85-b3b9-d23170cba...@hotosm.org> 
>> <744ef5eb-0467-aa85-b3b9-d23170cba...@hotosm.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> great, that you are going to write a case study!
>>
>> Yes, in the communications working group I've mentioned this some months
>> ago, and I've heard a couple of times that people wanted to outreach to
>> the partners to write such a case study. Until now there hasn't been any
>> input, yet. And that's the reason why I'm asking on this list for more
>> help to get good stories on results made using OSM data improved through
>> HOT's initiatives.
>>
>> Please help out if you have been doing or you are in contact with
>> anybody who has created a cool product/result!
>>
>> BTW, if it would be because of me, I'd make it a (not too tight)
>> condition, that people who use the data for the good, share their
>> success story with us :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Felix
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [HOT] Showcases - What has been done with HOT's effort

[Milo van der Linden]

It makes sense although I am a bit hesitant about HOT Inc. deciding when
and how to 'allow' the use of the name HOT, wouldn't that be a community
matter? Or should those that believe an organizational structure is an
unnecessary addition to HOT leave or 'fork'?

And if so, are any forks in place today? Groups of (unorganized) people
that act like a hottie but do not necessarily support the idea of a HOT Inc?

Kind regards,

Milo

2016-10-27 20:47 GMT+02:00 Felix Delattre :

> Generally, everything counts!! But as this is for the website of HOT Inc.,
> I would say the case studies/showcases should at least somehow be connected
> to any initiatives or activations from HOT Inc. The text can then explain
> briefly the connection.
>
> Let's take the example of Managua. The public transport map there has been
> done by the local community without any help from HOT Inc. nor any
> activation. However HOT Inc. helped then by giving it's name and
> organizational structure in the crowd-funding campaign and that is why
> there has been a connection, which is explained in the text:
> https://hotosm.org/showcase/2016/first_central_american_transit_map
>
> Does this makes sense?
>
> Cheers,
> Felix
>
>
> On 27/10/16 20:39, Milo van der Linden wrote:
>
> I assume the things one did without the support of HOT Inc. do not count?
>
> 2016-10-27 17:11 GMT+02:00 Felix Delattre :
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> great, that you are going to write a case study!
>>
>> Yes, in the communications working group I've mentioned this some months
>> ago, and I've heard a couple of times that people wanted to outreach to the
>> partners to write such a case study. Until now there hasn't been any input,
>> yet. And that's the reason why I'm asking on this list for more help to get
>> good stories on results made using OSM data improved through HOT's
>> initiatives.
>>
>> Please help out if you have been doing or you are in contact with anybody
>> who has created a cool product/result!
>>
>> BTW, if it would be because of me, I'd make it a (not too tight)
>> condition, that people who use the data for the good, share their success
>> story with us :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Felix
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26/10/16 18:28, Paul Uithol wrote:
>>
>> Hi Felix,
>>
>> Great initiative! It's a question I often get, and thus information I
>> have been looking for at times. Will try to write up a convincing case
>> study for MapUganda and Ramani Huria shortly. You probably had a look at
>> the Press/Recognition folder on the drive already (there's an article from
>> the Canadian Armed Forces on Nepal there, Guardian one on MM)? And we
>> could request some of our partners to write up a case study? I know some of
>> them have amazing case studies of OSM data interacting with their field ops
>> (you may already have set this in motion as well ;)
>>
>> best,
>> Paul
>>
>> On 26-10-2016 17:33, Felix Delattre wrote:
>>
>> Dear HOT-community,
>>
>> It is important to show the *outcomes* HOT has leveraged. This helps us
>> for the inspiration of people and organizations about the possibilities of
>> Open Data for humanitarian activities and also for our fund-raising efforts.
>>
>> We usually communicate results as news on the website, such as statistics
>> of activations (how many mappers participated, how much data was collected,
>> what extend was mapped, how many people effected, ...) and this is good!
>>
>> But we also want to show *tangible outcomes*, to answer the questions,
>> what this data has been used for. Especially our partners, or communities
>> that used the collected open data to produce impacts and products based on
>> the data. Therefore I've created a showcases section on the website:
>> https://hotosm.org/showcases
>>
>> Unfortunately there aren't a lot of good examples, yet, and I'd like to
>> invite everybody who has a story to share to contribute to this effort.
>> Once we have good content there I'll link the showcases to be visible on
>> the website's general pages.
>>
>> If you have an account on the website (which you should have as a HOT
>> member) you can add a new showcase by visiting this link:
>> https://hotosm.org/node/add/showcase
>> In case you don't have the permissions to do so, or you don't have an
>> account but want to contribute with a showcase, please write me in private.
>>
>> Please try to make it short, visual (pictures!) and convincing.
>

Re: [HOT] Showcases - What has been done with HOT's effort

[Milo van der Linden]

I assume the things one did without the support of HOT Inc. do not count?

2016-10-27 17:11 GMT+02:00 Felix Delattre :

> Hi Paul,
>
> great, that you are going to write a case study!
>
> Yes, in the communications working group I've mentioned this some months
> ago, and I've heard a couple of times that people wanted to outreach to the
> partners to write such a case study. Until now there hasn't been any input,
> yet. And that's the reason why I'm asking on this list for more help to get
> good stories on results made using OSM data improved through HOT's
> initiatives.
>
> Please help out if you have been doing or you are in contact with anybody
> who has created a cool product/result!
>
> BTW, if it would be because of me, I'd make it a (not too tight)
> condition, that people who use the data for the good, share their success
> story with us :)
>
> Thanks,
> Felix
>
>
>
> On 26/10/16 18:28, Paul Uithol wrote:
>
> Hi Felix,
>
> Great initiative! It's a question I often get, and thus information I have
> been looking for at times. Will try to write up a convincing case study for
> MapUganda and Ramani Huria shortly. You probably had a look at the
> Press/Recognition folder on the drive already (there's an article from the
> Canadian Armed Forces on Nepal there, Guardian one on MM)? And we could
> request some of our partners to write up a case study? I know some of them
> have amazing case studies of OSM data interacting with their field ops (you
> may already have set this in motion as well ;)
>
> best,
> Paul
>
> On 26-10-2016 17:33, Felix Delattre wrote:
>
> Dear HOT-community,
>
> It is important to show the *outcomes* HOT has leveraged. This helps us
> for the inspiration of people and organizations about the possibilities of
> Open Data for humanitarian activities and also for our fund-raising efforts.
>
> We usually communicate results as news on the website, such as statistics
> of activations (how many mappers participated, how much data was collected,
> what extend was mapped, how many people effected, ...) and this is good!
>
> But we also want to show *tangible outcomes*, to answer the questions,
> what this data has been used for. Especially our partners, or communities
> that used the collected open data to produce impacts and products based on
> the data. Therefore I've created a showcases section on the website:
> https://hotosm.org/showcases
>
> Unfortunately there aren't a lot of good examples, yet, and I'd like to
> invite everybody who has a story to share to contribute to this effort.
> Once we have good content there I'll link the showcases to be visible on
> the website's general pages.
>
> If you have an account on the website (which you should have as a HOT
> member) you can add a new showcase by visiting this link:
> https://hotosm.org/node/add/showcase
> In case you don't have the permissions to do so, or you don't have an
> account but want to contribute with a showcase, please write me in private.
>
> Please try to make it short, visual (pictures!) and convincing.
>
> Thank you!
> Best,
> Felix
>
>
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Re: [HOT] Haiti Building Tasks - Construction?

[Milo van der Linden]

I have seen a lot of these wall-only constructions in pre-hurricane
imagery. So I guess it would be good if you would use both pre- and post
and compare to see if the "construction" was already there.

Kind regards,

Milo

2016-10-13 3:46 GMT+02:00 Mike Thompson :

> For the tasks over Haiti related to the recovery efforts for Hurricane
> Matthew, should we be mapping buildings under construction (buildings where
> you see only walls but no roof)? Some of these actually may be buildings
> that were whole, but are now damaged.
>
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Re: [HOT] DigitalGlobe imagery for Matthew

[Milo van der Linden]

Thanks!

Op 8 okt. 2016 6:25 p.m. schreef "Kevin Bullock" :

> @Milo - issue should be resolved
>
> @Jeff - I will ping you separately with S3
>
> Regards, Kevin
>
> Sent from my mobile
>
> On Oct 8, 2016, at 2:18 AM, Milo van der Linden  wrote:
>
> I get "Access denied"
>
> 2016-10-08 6:15 GMT+02:00 Kevin Bullock :
>
>> Hi Jeff, no keys needed. Just hit these links:
>>
>> http://opendata.digitalglobe.com/index.html?prefix=hurricane
>> -matthew/pre-event/
>>
>> http://opendata.digitalglobe.com/index.html?prefix=hurricane
>> -matthew/post-event/
>>
>> Regards, Kevin
>>
>> Sent from my mobile
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Jeffrey Johnson  wrote:
>>
>> Kevin, I cant seem to access the public bucket for this. Are there new
>> keys for this bucket?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Kevin Bullock 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Please see this link for access to Open Data from DigitalGlobe:
>>
>> http://opendata.digitalglobe.com/
>>
>>
>> more on blog:
>>
>> http://blog.digitalglobe.com/2016/10/07/open-data-volunteer-
>> mapping-to-support-hurricane-response-in-haiti/
>>
>>
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Re: [HOT] DigitalGlobe imagery for Matthew

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I get "Access denied"

2016-10-08 6:15 GMT+02:00 Kevin Bullock :

> Hi Jeff, no keys needed. Just hit these links:
>
> http://opendata.digitalglobe.com/index.html?prefix=
> hurricane-matthew/pre-event/
>
> http://opendata.digitalglobe.com/index.html?prefix=
> hurricane-matthew/post-event/
>
> Regards, Kevin
>
> Sent from my mobile
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> On Oct 7, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Jeffrey Johnson  wrote:
>
> Kevin, I cant seem to access the public bucket for this. Are there new
> keys for this bucket?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Kevin Bullock 
> wrote:
>
> Please see this link for access to Open Data from DigitalGlobe:
>
> http://opendata.digitalglobe.com/
>
>
> more on blog:
>
> http://blog.digitalglobe.com/2016/10/07/open-data-
> volunteer-mapping-to-support-hurricane-response-in-haiti/
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>
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Re: [HOT] Shelter list Jamaica, help wanted

[Milo van der Linden]

And the noaa prediction:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?5-daynl#contents

2016-10-02 6:41 GMT+02:00 Dale Kunce :

> I just preemptively published a task for Haiti.
>
>
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2195
>
>
> Much of the area hasn't been mapped since 2010 it looks like.
>
>
> At this time HOT has not activated and this is purely
> for preparation incase the situation becomes more likely in the next 24
> hours.
>
>
> Dale
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 9:10 PM, Sameer Verma  wrote:
>
>> Looks like the hurricane is moving away from Jamaica, towards Haiti.
>>
>> https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2016/Hurricane-Matthew
>>
>> Sameer
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2016 8:57 AM, "Milo van der Linden"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> The list of shelters is available as csv on gist:
>>>
>>> https://gist.github.com/milovanderlinden/9d8d68f4cb0d72f29f1
>>> ca375d5338d18
>>>
>>> And I am in the process of looking them up and mapping them to
>>> openstreetmap. If anyone cares to join in and help, please let me know!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Milo
>>>
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Re: [HOT] Fwd: I want to open a task for Jamaica

[Milo van der Linden]

Thanks again Blake,

I signed up for the hotosm-slack and am of course very glad to help others
to understand what is requested.

Thank you so much!

2016-10-01 22:13 GMT+02:00 Blake Girardot :

> Hi,
>
> Considering the coordination that is needed for this project, maybe
> joining the hot slack server would help people who want to contribute and
> have questions:
>
> https://hotosm-slack.herokuapp.com/
>
> It is basically web based, real time tex chat.
>
> Regards,
> Blake
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Milo van der Linden 
> wrote:
>
>> We have a spreadsheet on google docs with the shelters.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/a/dogodigi.net/spreadsheets/d/1OXL7B
>> 2bUJfRElbgrRLdcG67DU976LZOViPLqBVp0jK8/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Milo van der Linden 
>> Date: 2016-10-01 22:01 GMT+02:00
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] I want to open a task for Jamaica
>> To: Blake Girardot 
>>
>>
>> Hello Blake,
>>
>> 1. The list was tweeted by the Prime Minister of Jamaica.
>> https://twitter.com/AndrewHolnessJM/status/781943665266659328 we are
>> asking his permission via twitter.
>>
>> 2. The shelters list has NO geometry, that is the biggest issue here, so
>> I do not have an OSM file. The bounds of the list are of course the bounds
>> of Jamaica. I have attached a osm file with a shape.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Op 1 okt. 2016 21:49 schreef "Blake Girardot" :
>>
>> Hi Milo,
>>>
>>> I have to ask as someone will eventually: What is the source of the
>>> shelters list and is it's license compatible with the OSM license?
>>>
>>> Sorry to have to ask, but as I said, someone will eventually.
>>>
>>> In the mean time I am looking at how we can do this project via the
>>> tasking manager, there are a few options for dividing up a .osm file in
>>> accordance with task squares. Do you have the shelters list as a .osm file
>>> or can you make one?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Blake
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Milo van der Linden 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can really use help mapping shelters for Jamaica.
>>>> The goal is to make a map available to GIS officers and the media on
>>>> Jamaica.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone open a task, I do not have the right to do so?
>>>>
>>>> I have the following in mind:
>>>>
>>>> Mappers should open https://gist.github.com/milova
>>>> nderlinden/9d8d68f4cb0d72f29f1ca375d5338d18
>>>>
>>>> 1. Open a task. Look for schools/churches/community_centers
>>>> 2. Check if they can find matching names
>>>> 3. Add the tag evacuation_center=yes
>>>>
>>>> Could that work?
>>>>
>>>> I am manually merging maps, json and csv at the moment. My gist
>>>> snippets (and geojson map) are here:
>>>>
>>>> https://gist.github.com/milovanderlinden
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any help appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Milo
>>>>
>>>>
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[HOT] Fwd: I want to open a task for Jamaica

[Milo van der Linden]

We have a spreadsheet on google docs with the shelters.

https://docs.google.com/a/dogodigi.net/spreadsheets/d/1OXL7B2bUJfRElbgrRLdcG67DU976LZOViPLqBVp0jK8/edit?usp=sharing


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From: Milo van der Linden 
Date: 2016-10-01 22:01 GMT+02:00
Subject: Re: [HOT] I want to open a task for Jamaica
To: Blake Girardot 


Hello Blake,

1. The list was tweeted by the Prime Minister of Jamaica.
https://twitter.com/AndrewHolnessJM/status/781943665266659328 we are asking
his permission via twitter.

2. The shelters list has NO geometry, that is the biggest issue here, so I
do not have an OSM file. The bounds of the list are of course the bounds of
Jamaica. I have attached a osm file with a shape.




Op 1 okt. 2016 21:49 schreef "Blake Girardot" :

Hi Milo,
>
> I have to ask as someone will eventually: What is the source of the
> shelters list and is it's license compatible with the OSM license?
>
> Sorry to have to ask, but as I said, someone will eventually.
>
> In the mean time I am looking at how we can do this project via the
> tasking manager, there are a few options for dividing up a .osm file in
> accordance with task squares. Do you have the shelters list as a .osm file
> or can you make one?
>
> Regards,
> Blake
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Milo van der Linden 
> wrote:
>
>> I can really use help mapping shelters for Jamaica.
>> The goal is to make a map available to GIS officers and the media on
>> Jamaica.
>>
>> Can anyone open a task, I do not have the right to do so?
>>
>> I have the following in mind:
>>
>> Mappers should open https://gist.github.com/milova
>> nderlinden/9d8d68f4cb0d72f29f1ca375d5338d18
>>
>> 1. Open a task. Look for schools/churches/community_centers
>> 2. Check if they can find matching names
>> 3. Add the tag evacuation_center=yes
>>
>> Could that work?
>>
>> I am manually merging maps, json and csv at the moment. My gist snippets
>> (and geojson map) are here:
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/milovanderlinden
>>
>>
>> Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Milo
>>
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[HOT] I want to open a task for Jamaica

[Milo van der Linden]

I can really use help mapping shelters for Jamaica.
The goal is to make a map available to GIS officers and the media on
Jamaica.

Can anyone open a task, I do not have the right to do so?

I have the following in mind:

Mappers should open
https://gist.github.com/milovanderlinden/9d8d68f4cb0d72f29f1ca375d5338d18

1. Open a task. Look for schools/churches/community_centers
2. Check if they can find matching names
3. Add the tag evacuation_center=yes

Could that work?

I am manually merging maps, json and csv at the moment. My gist snippets
(and geojson map) are here:

https://gist.github.com/milovanderlinden


Any help appreciated.

Kind regards,

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[HOT] Shelter list Jamaica, help wanted

[Milo van der Linden]

Hello all,

The list of shelters is available as csv on gist:

https://gist.github.com/milovanderlinden/9d8d68f4cb0d72f29f1ca375d5338d18

And I am in the process of looking them up and mapping them to
openstreetmap. If anyone cares to join in and help, please let me know!

Regards,

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Re: [HOT] Hurricane Matthew

[Milo van der Linden]

Thank you Blake, that is clear. I think I will go for
evacuation_center=yes. Any other tags that are relevant?

2016-10-01 7:34 GMT+02:00 Blake Girardot :

> Hi Milo,
>
> evacuation_center=yes that can go on buildings
>
> has been used in the past for hurricane events.
>
> There is also the possibility to use
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:social_facility%3Dshelter which
> I do not like as a tag for emergency shelters.
>
> There is also http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:evacuation_route
> that can go on highways.
>
> Regards
> blake
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Milo van der Linden 
> wrote:
> > As the people in Jamaica prepare for the hurricane, I came across a list
> of
> > priority and secondary shelters. They are mostly public locations like
> > schools.
> >
> > Any tips on registering these secondary functions on the schools? Is
> there a
> > tagging scheme for shelters?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Milo
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[HOT] Hurricane Matthew

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As the people in Jamaica prepare for the hurricane, I came across a list of
priority and secondary shelters. They are mostly public locations like
schools.

Any tips on registering these secondary functions on the schools? Is there
a tagging scheme for shelters?

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[HOT] #2097 Peace Corps Jamaica -- Kingston

[Milo van der Linden]

Can the creator of the HOT task for

#2097 Peace Corps Jamaica -- Kingston

please contact me? ICM Jamaica has about 12 mappers on the ground, I am
sure they are willing to help out but it would be nice if they know a
little more about the purpose of the task.


http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2097

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Re: [HOT] Abstract fort Summit Bruxelles

[Milo van der Linden]

Thank you team for the response and I wish you all good fun working through
the proposals. I am really looking forward to the summit!
On 8 Jul 2016 22:52, "Tyler Radford"  wrote:

> Hi Milo and all
>
> Thanks for your amazing ideas! We received a total of 72 proposals. A
> process and review committee made up of HOT Summit Working Group members
> has been set up. We're working through this process over the next week and
> will provide updates within approximately two weeks.
>
> Best
> Tyler
>
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> wrote:
>
>> Hello Jo,
>>
>> Did anything come out of the meeting? I think it would be good if people
>> that publish an abstract recieve at least some signal that their message
>> has been received.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Milo
>>
>> 2016-07-06 11:34 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden :
>>
>>> Ok, thank you for the update!
>>>
>>> 2016-07-06 8:29 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>>>
>>>> We will have a meeting this afternoon (European time) where we'll be
>>>> reviewing them.
>>>>
>>>> Polyglot
>>>>
>>>> 2016-07-06 8:21 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden :
>>>>
>>>>> I submitted an abstract for the HOT summit more then a week ago. Can
>>>>> someone tell me when these will be judged and responded?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Milo
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Re: [HOT] Abstract fort Summit Bruxelles

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Hello Jo,

Did anything come out of the meeting? I think it would be good if people
that publish an abstract recieve at least some signal that their message
has been received.

Kind regards,

Milo

2016-07-06 11:34 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden :

> Ok, thank you for the update!
>
> 2016-07-06 8:29 GMT+02:00 Jo :
>
>> We will have a meeting this afternoon (European time) where we'll be
>> reviewing them.
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>> 2016-07-06 8:21 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden :
>>
>>> I submitted an abstract for the HOT summit more then a week ago. Can
>>> someone tell me when these will be judged and responded?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
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Ok, thank you for the update!

2016-07-06 8:29 GMT+02:00 Jo :

> We will have a meeting this afternoon (European time) where we'll be
> reviewing them.
>
> Polyglot
>
> 2016-07-06 8:21 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden :
>
>> I submitted an abstract for the HOT summit more then a week ago. Can
>> someone tell me when these will be judged and responded?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
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I submitted an abstract for the HOT summit more then a week ago. Can
someone tell me when these will be judged and responded?

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Re: [HOT] OpenRouteService Disaster Map for Ecuador

[Milo van der Linden]

Nice, but have you considered joining up with f.i. OSMand? Perhaps offline
routing is more reliable in a crisis situation where first responders can
download routing data in the basecamps and then use it during operations.

I have got the feeling that now is a good time to drop the "not invented
here" tradition that seems so common at universities across the globe. No
offense meant. I just hope for cooperations from which a larger audience
might benefit.

Kind regards,

Milo
Op 21 apr. 2016 10:54 schreef "Melanie Eckle" :

> Dear HOT team,
>
> I want to hereby inform you that GIScience group of Heidelberg University
>  set up an
> OpenRouteService Disaster Map for Ecuador:
> http://openls.geog.uni-heidelberg.de/disaster/.
> The map and graph will be updated regularly.
> As in earlier cases for the disasters in Nepal or Haiti the additional
> *OpenRouteService* SOS - route profile currently considers passable and
> impassable tagged ways and dynamically adjusts the graph weights of OSM
> streets accordingly.
>
> ORS also provides an Accessibility Analysis Service for a given location,
> the possibility to export GPS tracks to be used offline in mobile device
> and the interactive Avoid Feature Area Tool (in case areas are severely
> effected by debris and not accessible at all). These features are thus
> potentially valuable for Search and Rescue (SAR) units.
>
> For more information also see:
> http://k1z.blog.uni-heidelberg.de/2016/04/20/disaster-openrouteservice-for-ecuador/
>
> Hopefully this resource will be useful and we are open to feedbacks
> towards improvement.
>
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Re: [HOT] Adding a disaster layer to openstreetmap

[Milo van der Linden]

What about every imaginable thing possible including social media in the
region? Wouldn't Ushahidi be the right fit for that?
https://www.ushahidi.com/



2015-11-06 0:54 GMT+01:00 Mike Dupont :

> This is something that I have been thinking about. What about road
> closures or planned road changes etc. Fires and crime. These are real
> time or planned events that could be supported by their own layer in
> OSM. Right now I don't know of any place that we could effectivly
> store and publish road closures from a city in osm.
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Rieger, Courtney 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm looking for a way to add a disaster layer to any mapping program
> > utilizing OSM software. I work for a community that wants to display
> their
> > flood data on a map of their town utilizing the interactive interface of
> > OSM. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Courtney Rieger
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[HOT] Parse dutch translation

[Milo van der Linden]

Hello HOT,

Leon van der Meulen spent a good deal of effort updating the dutch
translation. Next week there will be a missing maps in Groningen (province
of the Netherlands) and a learnosm in dutch would be great.

I know not everything is complete yet, but would it be possible to parse
what we have so far so we can check out if all slugs work and if the basic
setup is good?

Please let us know.

Kind regards,

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Re: [HOT] Update on HOT

[Milo van der Linden]

Thank you!

2015-10-03 1:01 GMT+02:00 Tyler Radford :
> Hi, Milo,
>
> HOT recently filed its annual financial report, which you can review on our
> website: http://hotosm.org/our_board/finances
>
> Best,
> Tyler
>
> Tyler Radford
> Interim Executive Director
> email: tyler.radf...@hotosm.org
> U.S. mobile: +1 617.285.2009
>
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> Using OpenStreetMap for Humanitarian Response & Economic Development
> web | twitter | facebook | donate
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Milo van der Linden 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Heather,
>>
>> Is there an online place (financial report) where we can read the details
>> on the operational costs?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Milo
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2015 21:16, "Heather Leson"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear HOT Community,
>>>
>>>
>>> We are writing to update you on changes and challenges that are facing
>>> the HOT community and organization.
>>>
>>>
>>> NGOs often have times when there are funds to raise and plans to change.
>>> HOT is no different. We are working to improve our financial oversight and
>>> organizational development. And, we are making some changes to our policies
>>> and practices to build a more sustainable organization. Over the past 5
>>> years, HOT has been primarily a project funded organization with no very
>>> limited unrestricted funds. This pattern and HOT’s operating costs have made
>>> it difficult to grow as quickly as we would like. We have drafted some
>>> initial plans on this front, which we hope you will help guide.
>>>
>>>
>>> Despite these challenges HOT has experienced amazing growth and an
>>> expansion of our mission, reach and importance to the global humanitarian
>>> community over the past few years through the hard work of our volunteers
>>> and staff. As we come to the end of our fiscal year in 2015 HOT has many
>>> opportunities for continued growth. We aim to provide you and the larger
>>> OpenStreetMap community with more tools and more support for the growth of
>>> local groups. In the coming weeks, we will be asking for your help to
>>> finalize and implement a fundraising plan to achieve those goals.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your ongoing support,
>>>
>>> Heather on behalf of the HOT Board of Directors
>>>
>>> Heather Leson
>>> heatherle...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter: HeatherLeson
>>> Blog: textontechs.com
>>>
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Re: [HOT] Update on HOT

[Milo van der Linden]

Hello Heather,

Is there an online place (financial report) where we can read the details
on the operational costs?

Kind regards,

Milo
On Oct 2, 2015 21:16, "Heather Leson"  wrote:

> Dear HOT Community,
>
>
> We are writing to update you on changes and challenges that are facing the
> HOT community and organization.
>
> NGOs often have times when there are funds to raise and plans to change.
> HOT is no different. We are working to improve our financial oversight and
> organizational development. And, we are making some changes to our policies
> and practices to build a more sustainable organization. Over the past 5
> years, HOT has been primarily a project funded organization with no very
> limited unrestricted funds. This pattern and HOT’s operating costs have
> made it difficult to grow as quickly as we would like. We have drafted some
> initial plans on this front, which we hope you will help guide.
>
> Despite these challenges HOT has experienced amazing growth and an
> expansion of our mission, reach and importance to the global humanitarian
> community over the past few years through the hard work of our volunteers
> and staff. As we come to the end of our fiscal year in 2015 HOT has many
> opportunities for continued growth. We aim to provide you and the larger
> OpenStreetMap community with more tools and more support for the growth of
> local groups. In the coming weeks, we will be asking for your help to
> finalize and implement a fundraising plan to achieve those goals.
>
> Thanks again for your ongoing support,
>
> Heather on behalf of the HOT Board of Directors
>
> Heather Leson
> heatherle...@gmail.com
> Twitter: HeatherLeson
> Blog: textontechs.com
>
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Re: [HOT] Disaster Mapping Program Overall - nearly complete

[Milo van der Linden]

Great work and despite the typo's very readable and of high quality!

I cannot wait to have a chance to grow as volunteer as I am eager to get
even more involved in HOT.

Kind regards,

Milo (milovanderlinden aka Miblon)
On Aug 21, 2015 10:36 PM, "Russell Deffner" 
wrote:

> Hi John, comments in-line…
>
>
>
> Comment we are dealing with volunteers "This course is required training
> for" is a little heavy handed.  Perhaps before taking this role on we
> request that you complete the following course or something a little softer.
>
> You're after their cooperation after all.
>
> Sure, thanks for the suggestion – yes, lots of rewording will happen over
> the next month.
>
> Expectations, well
>
> An overall status of the mapping progress
> needs to be maintained. This can be
> achieved with a table on the wikipage. As
> news fades from the headlines, it may be
> necessary to make clear and direct asks of
> the community or for assistance mapping
> within specific Tasking Manager projects
>
> yes but what is our success rate in completing and archiving projects say
> within twelve months?  I don't honestly think we have the resources to do
> this.
>
> I’ll give you my ‘standard’ response when it comes to successful Tasking
> Manager projects – it is much higher when there is a ‘champion’ making
> clear asks, hence why we need to train people to understand that it isn’t
> about bothering people by sending too many emails – it’s about having a
> comprehensive plan to actually take an Activation from start to finish.
>
> Thanks,
>
> =Russ
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Re: [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel

[Milo van der Linden]

No, it was no glitch, it was a good catch as a matter of fact!

I have fixed it. Checked here, my DNS already reflects the changes. Meetbot
spits out immediatly, so next time it should work fine.

2015-06-23 20:48 GMT+02:00 Russell Deffner :

> Oh, they are working now Milo; maybe the bot just spits them out before
> they are actually accessible. When I tried them right away I would get
> ‘website not found’ or maybe it was just a temporary internet glitch on my
> end.
>
>
>
> Thanks again for setting this up!
>
> =Russ
>
>
>
> *From:* Milo van der Linden [mailto:m...@dogodigi.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:38 PM
> *To:* Russell Deffner
> *Cc:* hot
> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel
>
>
>
> Hello Russell!
>
> Good to hear you used the bot, and I am also glad to hear it worked.
>
> I checked out the log at
> http://logs.sahanafoundation.org/hotosm/2015-06-23.txt
>
> And followed the links:
>
> 15:21:12  Minutes:
> http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-06-23-14.04.html
>
> 15:21:12  Minutes (text): 
> http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-06-23-14.04.txt
>
> 15:21:12  Log:
> http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-06-23-14.04.log.html
>
> From my home location, these links are reachable, so I do not understand 
> completely what can be wrong.
> Can you please try again, maybe refresh the browser? Maybe have someone else 
> also try the links?
> As far as I know I haven't set up any black or whitelisting, so I am a bit 
> puzzled of why they are unreachable.
>
> I appologize for any inconvenience. Please let me know how I can be of 
> service!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Milo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2015-06-23 19:16 GMT+02:00 Russell Deffner :
>
> Hello Milo,
>
>
>
> I used the meetbot today for the Activation Working Group.  All the
> commands seemed to work fine, but when I ended the meeting, the links the
> bot spit out were no good.  Can you point me to the ‘root’ URL and/or
> investigate what happened; the meeting occurred 14:00-15:20 roughly on 23
> June.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> =Russ
>
>
>
> *From:* Russell Deffner [mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:22 PM
> *To:* 'Milo van der Linden'
> *Subject:* RE: [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel
>
>
>
> Hi Milo,
>
>
>
> Yes please (in regards to admin) – and would wonder if you know Mumble as
> well? We have an ‘expert’ but he is very busy nowadays and often our
> ‘Parliamentarian’ ‘falls-asleep’ it would be great to have a better
> solution – as he also (and currently really only) is our echo-test bot.
>
>
>
> Let’s maybe chat sometime soon,
>
> =Russ
>
>
>
> Russell Deffner
>
> Chairperson for the Voting Members
>
> Email: russell.deff...@hotosm.org
>
> US Mobile/SMS/WhatsApp: +1-970-217-4195
>
> OSM/Skype: russdeffner
>
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>
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> | Donate <http://hotosm.org/donate>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Milo van der Linden [mailto:m...@dogodigi.net ]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 09, 2015 2:09 PM
> *To:* hot
> *Subject:* [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel
>
>
>
> Hello hotties,
>
> I have set up a meetbot in the #hot irc channel. This adds enhancements to
> help streamline online meetings by automagically creating minutes. The
> commands that can be used are simple and well documented[1] and will after
> the #endmeeting command is issued, generate the minutes and show the links
> to the minutes[2]. Currently the meetbot is running indefinitly on one of
> my servers.
>
> I have a couple of questions:
>
> 1. Could this be of use?
>
> 2. Since I will not always be present at IRC meetings; is/are there
> anybody that would like to have admin access to control the bot and be able
> to start meetings? And would they have to be boardmembers?
>
> Your advice would be highly appreciated.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> milo/miblon
>
>
> [1]http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:using-meetbot
> [2]www.dogodigi.net/logs/hot/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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> tel: +31-6-16598808
>
>
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Re: [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel

[Milo van der Linden]

It depends on the browser. Some browsers will automagically prefix
dogodigi.net with www. I have changed my DNS settings, they might take a
while to get activated, so that the http://dogodigi.net will also work


2015-06-23 20:46 GMT+02:00 Pierre Béland :

> Thanks Milo for the Bot.
>
> I checked these links immediately at the end of the meeting and they did
> work. I just verified again and the links are still working for me.
>
> regard
>
> Pierre
>
>   --------------
>  *De :* Milo van der Linden 
> *À :* Russell Deffner 
> *Cc :* hot 
> *Envoyé le :* Mardi 23 juin 2015 14h37
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel
>
> Hello Russell!
>
> Good to hear you used the bot, and I am also glad to hear it worked.
>
> I checked out the log at
> http://logs.sahanafoundation.org/hotosm/2015-06-23.txt
>
> And followed the links:
>
> 15:21:12  Minutes:
> http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-06-23-14.04.html
> 15:21:12  Minutes (text): 
> http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-06-23-14.04.txt
> 15:21:12  Log:
> http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-06-23-14.04.log.html
>
> From my home location, these links are reachable, so I do not understand 
> completely what can be wrong.
> Can you please try again, maybe refresh the browser? Maybe have someone else 
> also try the links?
> As far as I know I haven't set up any black or whitelisting, so I am a bit 
> puzzled of why they are unreachable.
>
> I appologize for any inconvenience. Please let me know how I can be of 
> service!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Milo
>
>
>
>
> 2015-06-23 19:16 GMT+02:00 Russell Deffner :
>
> Hello Milo,
>
> I used the meetbot today for the Activation Working Group.  All the
> commands seemed to work fine, but when I ended the meeting, the links the
> bot spit out were no good.  Can you point me to the ‘root’ URL and/or
> investigate what happened; the meeting occurred 14:00-15:20 roughly on 23
> June.
>
> Thank you,
> =Russ
>
> *From:* Russell Deffner [mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:22 PM
> *To:* 'Milo van der Linden'
> *Subject:* RE: [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel
>
> Hi Milo,
>
> Yes please (in regards to admin) – and would wonder if you know Mumble as
> well? We have an ‘expert’ but he is very busy nowadays and often our
> ‘Parliamentarian’ ‘falls-asleep’ it would be great to have a better
> solution – as he also (and currently really only) is our echo-test bot.
>
> Let’s maybe chat sometime soon,
> =Russ
>
> Russell Deffner
> Chairperson for the Voting Members
> Email: russell.deff...@hotosm.org
> US Mobile/SMS/WhatsApp: +1-970-217-4195
> OSM/Skype: russdeffner
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)
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> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team> | Blog
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> | Donate <http://hotosm.org/donate>
>
>
> *From:* Milo van der Linden [mailto:m...@dogodigi.net ]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 09, 2015 2:09 PM
> *To:* hot
> *Subject:* [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel
>
> Hello hotties,
> I have set up a meetbot in the #hot irc channel. This adds enhancements to
> help streamline online meetings by automagically creating minutes. The
> commands that can be used are simple and well documented[1] and will after
> the #endmeeting command is issued, generate the minutes and show the links
> to the minutes[2]. Currently the meetbot is running indefinitly on one of
> my servers.
> I have a couple of questions:
> 1. Could this be of use?
> 2. Since I will not always be present at IRC meetings; is/are there
> anybody that would like to have admin access to control the bot and be able
> to start meetings? And would they have to be boardmembers?
> Your advice would be highly appreciated.
> Kind regards,
> milo/miblon
>
> [1]http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:using-meetbot
> [2]www.dogodigi.net/logs/hot/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel

[Milo van der Linden]

Hello Russell!

Good to hear you used the bot, and I am also glad to hear it worked.

I checked out the log at
http://logs.sahanafoundation.org/hotosm/2015-06-23.txt

And followed the links:

15:21:12  Minutes:
http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-06-23-14.04.html
15:21:12  Minutes (text):
http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-06-23-14.04.txt
15:21:12  Log:
http://dogodigi.net/logs/hot/2015/hot.2015-06-23-14.04.log.html

>From my home location, these links are reachable, so I do not
understand completely what can be wrong.
Can you please try again, maybe refresh the browser? Maybe have
someone else also try the links?
As far as I know I haven't set up any black or whitelisting, so I am a
bit puzzled of why they are unreachable.

I appologize for any inconvenience. Please let me know how I can be of service!

Kind regards,

Milo




2015-06-23 19:16 GMT+02:00 Russell Deffner :

> Hello Milo,
>
>
>
> I used the meetbot today for the Activation Working Group.  All the
> commands seemed to work fine, but when I ended the meeting, the links the
> bot spit out were no good.  Can you point me to the ‘root’ URL and/or
> investigate what happened; the meeting occurred 14:00-15:20 roughly on 23
> June.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> =Russ
>
>
>
> *From:* Russell Deffner [mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:22 PM
> *To:* 'Milo van der Linden'
> *Subject:* RE: [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel
>
>
>
> Hi Milo,
>
>
>
> Yes please (in regards to admin) – and would wonder if you know Mumble as
> well? We have an ‘expert’ but he is very busy nowadays and often our
> ‘Parliamentarian’ ‘falls-asleep’ it would be great to have a better
> solution – as he also (and currently really only) is our echo-test bot.
>
>
>
> Let’s maybe chat sometime soon,
>
> =Russ
>
>
>
> Russell Deffner
>
> Chairperson for the Voting Members
>
> Email: russell.deff...@hotosm.org
>
> US Mobile/SMS/WhatsApp: +1-970-217-4195
>
> OSM/Skype: russdeffner
>
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)
>
> Web <http://hotosm.org/> | Wiki
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team> | Blog
> <http://hotosm.org/updates> | Contact
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team#Communication>
> | Donate <http://hotosm.org/donate>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Milo van der Linden [mailto:m...@dogodigi.net ]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 09, 2015 2:09 PM
> *To:* hot
> *Subject:* [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel
>
>
>
> Hello hotties,
>
> I have set up a meetbot in the #hot irc channel. This adds enhancements to
> help streamline online meetings by automagically creating minutes. The
> commands that can be used are simple and well documented[1] and will after
> the #endmeeting command is issued, generate the minutes and show the links
> to the minutes[2]. Currently the meetbot is running indefinitly on one of
> my servers.
>
> I have a couple of questions:
>
> 1. Could this be of use?
>
> 2. Since I will not always be present at IRC meetings; is/are there
> anybody that would like to have admin access to control the bot and be able
> to start meetings? And would they have to be boardmembers?
>
> Your advice would be highly appreciated.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> milo/miblon
>
>
> [1]http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community:using-meetbot
> [2]www.dogodigi.net/logs/hot/
>
>
>
>



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Re: [HOT] humanitarian font

[Milo van der Linden]

I found this: https://github.com/lvoogdt/Leaflet.awesome-markers which
allows font markers. This could probably be adapted to use the humanitarian
font icons too.

2015-06-17 6:02 GMT+02:00 Mhairi O'Hara :

> These are great. Thanks Pierre, is this something we should consider using
> for the enhancement of our online tools? i.e the redesign of the Export
> Tool UI?
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Blake Girardot 
> wrote:
>
>> wow, nice, thank you for pointing that out. those look really useful.
>>
>>
>> On 6/16/2015 3:20 PM, Pierre Béland wrote:
>>
>>> For those that need to integrate icons in applications, you might be
>>> interested by this Humanitarian Font collection available from Github.
>>> http://unhcr.github.io/Humanitarian-Font/
>>>
>>> Pierre
>>>
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Re: [HOT] Epworth Field Papers - The Zimbabwe Connection. Advice on JOSM categorisation.

[Milo van der Linden]

Hello Rupert,

The first thing to do in my opinion would be to add a proposed structure
for Zimbabwe to the wiki page for administrative boundaries at the
openstreetmap wiki:
- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative

Another possible source that would give you some idea is "free the
postcode" http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Free_The_Postcode you might be
able to look at the blocks in a postal-code like way. When you tag the
block identification in a postal-code like way on individual addresses, you
can use standard GIS techniques like voronoy to regenerate the blocks from
the individual addresses and at the same time check for anomalies.
- http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Free_The_Postcode
- http://my2iu.blogspot.nl/2012/02/february-2012-go-transit-zone-map.html
(explains using voronoi, to get a general idea)

So in my opinion, you have two choices;

- Generate blocks at an administrative level of your choice first and
automatically add block info to addresses

or

- Enter block information as tags to addresses and analyse and correct
afterwards.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards,

Milo



2015-06-11 23:03 GMT+02:00 Rupert Allan :

>  Hi All,
> I'm Rupert, and I work with MSF as Field Mapping Coordinator. In March and
> April Kieran O'Sullivan and I worked on a Missing Maps project in the
> Epworth, Harare, Zimbabwe, where MSF are struggling to trace patients in
> order to deliver repeated treatment and follow-up for HIV, MDRTB
> (Multi-Drug Resistant TB). This is crucial in the epidemiological struggle
> (HIV at 15%), but also Epworth is an extremely vulnerable community, and
> our new OSM community there now hold the key to Epworth's
> self-representation and its accessibility to Humanitarian logistical
> efforts, in a place where sanitation is a geological nightmare, mobility is
> perenial, and housing consistently disappears in man-made and natural
> disasters.
>
> We discovered that the population was up to five times its official count,
> so we split the 840 field papers into NE, SE, SW, and NW quarters so that
> Field Papers software could deal with it.
> Now we have a few hundred papers coming in ready to input, and many more
> on the way, although hampered by WiFi and hardware access.
> In different parts of Epworth, address formats differ from others, so it
> involves careful thought about how to deploy keys/values.
> I mention in the Wiki
> ,
> that this has evolved a degree of protection and 'anonymity' for the
> unofficial majority there. Ethics are key, as they need to be protected
> from certain factors and protected BY other factors (i.e. their visibility
> to the world as a community). So its an important project, considering
> where they are in history right now.
>
> The main issue is to input and tag 'block' boundaries, and figure out
> which administrative level to tag them on. It would be great to discuss and
> agree a bit with experienced JOSMers. The addresses depend on numbers,
> names and qualifiers of small 6-10 house areas, often with a community
> leader as the most definitive 'name' value.
> Somebody mentioned the 'Hamlet' tag. Cells are used in some addresses, but
> not others. The field papers are informative, but the addresses are defined
> differently in different parts of Epworth. This serves to protect
> communities. It's all very interesting...
>
> I am still learning JOSM, but maybe they fit into a 'multiple-choice'
> style of categorising. Almost all have numbers, but an address could be
> identical to another, except in a different ward, so miles away, or in a
> different 'block', or might hint obliquely to status as 'unofficial'. The
> numbers, by the way, are non-sequential/randomised. But it could all be
> cascade-searched with the right OSM keys/admin level or tag.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks, Rupert
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[HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel

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Hello hotties,

I have set up a meetbot in the #hot irc channel. This adds enhancements to
help streamline online meetings by automagically creating minutes. The
commands that can be used are simple and well documented[1] and will after
the #endmeeting command is issued, generate the minutes and show the links
to the minutes[2]. Currently the meetbot is running indefinitly on one of
my servers.

I have a couple of questions:

1. Could this be of use?
2. Since I will not always be present at IRC meetings; is/are there anybody
that would like to have admin access to control the bot and be able to
start meetings? And would they have to be boardmembers?

Your advice would be highly appreciated.

Kind regards,

milo/miblon

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Re: [HOT] Level of user experience to focus on

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It is my personal opinion that the level of expertise is less important
then the motivation for people to participate and their abbility to adapt.
As an example; What is better, a geospatial expert that is conceited or
even cocky or a new mapper that has a lot of time and is eager to learn?

Having a diverse crowd looks like the key to success. A crowd that consists
of experts only leads to discussion, a crowd that consists of new mappers
only mightl lead to less usable data, you need a "perfect mix". Putting in
as much effort as possible from all involved is what is needed to reach
quantity and quality. Quality is created in phases, molding rough and
sometimes wrong activity into valuable information.

This is why I oppose the idea of setting a bar. The door should be open to
everyone. The focus should be on people who are eager to prticipate and get
things done.

I do agree that the validation process is a different matter. The
validators should preferably be directly involved with the organizing party
and be well informed about the information necessary to accept a task as
valid. And this doesn't always mean it has to be "perfect geometry" and
"everything visible mapped". A hard thing to predefine!

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Re: [HOT] Questions regarding metrics from taskprojects, tasks and volunteers.

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Andrew, Martin and John,

Thank you all for the responses! I have aggregated your reactions and will
communicate them with the Dutch Red Cross.

I conclude that it is important a Relief organisation setting up mapping
tasks is committed to interaction with the community, providing feedback
and motivating volunteers. Statistics can be gathered in a lot of ways, but
there is currently no defacto model and statistics of tasks are (currently)
not directly aggregated from the openstreetmap changesets into the task
manager.

I think the main goal is to make relief organisations aware of the
importance of their commitment. I also think it would be great if we could
work out a model for statistics and implement this in the task manager,
perhaps on some sort of statistics dashboard.

Thanks again, I will pass the message!

Kind regards,

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[HOT] Questions regarding metrics from taskprojects, tasks and volunteers.

[Milo van der Linden]

Hello fellow humanitarian mappers,

Today I attended a missingmaps event in the Netherlands. With my
OpenStreetMap experience and HOT task experience, I was asked to give some
hands on instructions, and I helped out in the classrooms.

There where approx. 40 people present, mapping tasks 1076 and parts of 1077
on the task manager.

During the event I was approached by people from the Dutch Red Cross. They
had a question.

When we roughly devide Humanitarian mapping in pre and post crisis efforts,
the Dutch Red Cross is particulary interested in pre crisis taskprojects.
They are looking for information that provides them with insight on optimal
size and scope of taskprojects. The reason they want to get this insight is
that with urgent crisis events, mappers (as myself) are possibly motivated
by the direct impact in situ. In pre-crisis situations, this motivation is
harder to define and you want to find a mode where you can trigger people
to participate without them losing interest before the taskprojects are
done leaving the relief organisation with gaps in the information. The
Dutch Red Cross operates in 17 countries. They have a lot of small projects
(like vacination programs). They would like to reach out to the HOT
community without stressing valuable volunteer efforts, trying to reach
optimal result for their spatial data needs.

Can any of you help me with the following questions:

1. In pre-crisis taskprojects; Do you think it is important to have a
person or organisation publishing announcements and "attracting" volunteers
to a task?
2. Is there a way to get (a rough estimate) on time volunteers spend on a
task?
3. Is there a (rough estimate) on the number of objects (nodes, ways,
relations) an average volunteer produces during a task?
4. Do you think it would be possible, given the size of a geographic "area
of interest" to estimate how many volunteers and/or mapping days would be
required to succesfully complete a taskproject?

I appologize up front for possible "blunt" questions or the way I write
this; I am no native english speaker.

Any suggestions, hints or insights are highly appreciated!

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Re: [HOT] Greetings HOT !

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Welcome Arushi Vashist!
On May 29, 2015 4:18 AM, "Arushi Vashist"  wrote:

> My name is Arushi Vashist and I joined the HOT community as an intern through 
> the Outreachy program 2015.
> I will be working on the project "Improve HOT Export Tool Help Documentation" 
> with my mentor Mhairi O’Hara.
>
> During the internship period, I will keep updating my OSM user diary with 
> posts on my progress and the project status.
> Here is the link to my first post: 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Arushi%20Vashist/diary/35112
> Also, I can be contacted via email arushi.8...@gmail.com.
> I am looking forward to having a great experience and collaborating with the 
> community.
> Have a great day!
> Regards,
> Arushi
>
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Re: [HOT] 30 m DEM TMS rendering for Nepal

[Milo van der Linden]

Sorry, that should be Andy Allan, not Allen.

2015-05-07 17:51 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden :

> You might consider contacting Andy Allen (http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/)
> as he has some beautiful cartographic products on the shelve that may only
> need little tweaking to do what you need.
>
> Andy's cartographic examples are here:
>
> http://www.thunderforest.com/
>
>
> 2015-05-07 16:41 GMT+02:00 Kretzer :
>
>> Thank you, this is brilliant!
>>
>> I like to get an idea of the terrain to help with the mapping -
>> particularly in this steep terrain, and the DEM layer helps a lot.
>> (Just recently I wondere if it would be possible to ad contour lines as a
>> standard layer in iD. If this information has the right licence it should
>> be possible, shouldn't it?)
>>
>>
>>
>> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. Mai 2015 um 00:28 Uhr
>> > Von: "Jean-Guilhem Cailton" 
>> > An: pi...@tiscali.it, hot@openstreetmap.org
>> > Betreff: Re: [HOT] 30 m DEM TMS rendering for Nepal
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > The same DEM rendering now covers all of Nepal.
>> >
>> > URL for JOSM is:
>> > tms:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/nepal_dem/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
>> >
>> > and for iD:
>> > http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/nepal_dem/{z}/{x}/{y}
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> >
>> > Jean-Guilhem
>> >
>> >
>> > Le 06/05/2015 22:24, piz a écrit :
>> > > I was thinking about the same rendering but didn't know about USGS
>> data licensing
>> > >
>> > > I think that the DEM should be used for evaluating helicopter landing
>> areas
>> > >
>> > > best
>> > > Roberto
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  quote of the day ~
>> > > "Yeah, yeah, life sucks and then you die"
>> > > (Bret Easton Ellis - Pat Bateman "American Psycho")
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -- In data mercoledì 6 maggio 2015 20:42:16, Jean-Guilhem Cailton ha
>> scritto:
>> > >> Hi,
>> > >>
>> > >> Needing a DEM background for some task, I've prepared a rendering
>> from
>> > >> the 30m SRTM DEM data made available by USGS for Central Nepal on
>> HDX,
>> > >> and shared it as TMS it in case it could useful to others too. Note
>> that
>> > >> it is not void-filled ("The voids occur in areas where the initial
>> > >> processing did not meet quality specifications").
>> > >>
>> > >> URL for JOSM is:
>> > >> tms:
>> http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/nepal_central_dem/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
>> > >>
>> > >> and for iD:
>> > >> tms:
>> http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/nepal_central_dem/{z}/{x}/{y}
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> The color ramp used follows the rainbow, for visual contrast (and
>> also
>> > >> for the spiritual symbol):
>> > >>
>> > >> 0 m : black
>> > >> 1000 m : blue
>> > >> 2000 m : cyan
>> > >> 3000 m : green
>> > >> 4000 m : yellow
>> > >> 5000 m : red
>> > >> 6000 m : white
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> This only covers Central Nepal for now (N27E83 to N28E85). Please
>> let me
>> > >> know if you'd like extended coverage (in particular to the East, or
>> for
>> > >> entire Nepal), or have other suggestions or comments.
>> > >>
>> > >> Best wishes,
>> > >>
>> > >> Jean-Guilhem
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
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Re: [HOT] 30 m DEM TMS rendering for Nepal

[Milo van der Linden]

You might consider contacting Andy Allen (http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/)
as he has some beautiful cartographic products on the shelve that may only
need little tweaking to do what you need.

Andy's cartographic examples are here:

http://www.thunderforest.com/


2015-05-07 16:41 GMT+02:00 Kretzer :

> Thank you, this is brilliant!
>
> I like to get an idea of the terrain to help with the mapping -
> particularly in this steep terrain, and the DEM layer helps a lot.
> (Just recently I wondere if it would be possible to ad contour lines as a
> standard layer in iD. If this information has the right licence it should
> be possible, shouldn't it?)
>
>
>
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 07. Mai 2015 um 00:28 Uhr
> > Von: "Jean-Guilhem Cailton" 
> > An: pi...@tiscali.it, hot@openstreetmap.org
> > Betreff: Re: [HOT] 30 m DEM TMS rendering for Nepal
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The same DEM rendering now covers all of Nepal.
> >
> > URL for JOSM is:
> > tms:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/nepal_dem/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
> >
> > and for iD:
> > http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/nepal_dem/{z}/{x}/{y}
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Jean-Guilhem
> >
> >
> > Le 06/05/2015 22:24, piz a écrit :
> > > I was thinking about the same rendering but didn't know about USGS
> data licensing
> > >
> > > I think that the DEM should be used for evaluating helicopter landing
> areas
> > >
> > > best
> > > Roberto
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  quote of the day ~
> > > "Yeah, yeah, life sucks and then you die"
> > > (Bret Easton Ellis - Pat Bateman "American Psycho")
> > >
> > >
> > > -- In data mercoledì 6 maggio 2015 20:42:16, Jean-Guilhem Cailton ha
> scritto:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Needing a DEM background for some task, I've prepared a rendering from
> > >> the 30m SRTM DEM data made available by USGS for Central Nepal on HDX,
> > >> and shared it as TMS it in case it could useful to others too. Note
> that
> > >> it is not void-filled ("The voids occur in areas where the initial
> > >> processing did not meet quality specifications").
> > >>
> > >> URL for JOSM is:
> > >> tms:
> http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/nepal_central_dem/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
> > >>
> > >> and for iD:
> > >> tms:
> http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/nepal_central_dem/{z}/{x}/{y}
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The color ramp used follows the rainbow, for visual contrast (and also
> > >> for the spiritual symbol):
> > >>
> > >> 0 m : black
> > >> 1000 m : blue
> > >> 2000 m : cyan
> > >> 3000 m : green
> > >> 4000 m : yellow
> > >> 5000 m : red
> > >> 6000 m : white
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> This only covers Central Nepal for now (N27E83 to N28E85). Please let
> me
> > >> know if you'd like extended coverage (in particular to the East, or
> for
> > >> entire Nepal), or have other suggestions or comments.
> > >>
> > >> Best wishes,
> > >>
> > >> Jean-Guilhem
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
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Re: [HOT] Feedback

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Well spoken! I am glad tot hear all of us are doing a job that satisfies a
need.

Milo
On May 7, 2015 1:17 PM, "Katja Ulbert"  wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> I am convinced my mapping is useful, even as a beginner. It took some time
> to go through the whole LearnOsm Guide, but it was worth it. Questions that
> come up now can be answered via IRC or mailing list.
>
> Striving for perfection in an imperfect situation doesn´t make sense to
> me. This is no time for evaluation. Anyway, it´s great that there are
> discussions and arguments. I like the positive reaction of the community to
> criticism.
>
> As many humanitarian organisation use the OSM data I guess it must be
> reliable and valuable. I am in contact with SardogsNepal (rescue and search
> dogs) http://www.sardogsnepal.asia/ , they use Open Street Map and seem
> satisfied.
>
> So this is my opinion as a graphic designer with no insight in mapping,
> cartography or GIS.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [HOT] [info-hotosm] Reference Project #1030 Nepal Earthquake

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djust based on buildings, or road intersections/curves
> (keeping in mind that roads are sometimes relocated), or even less
> permanent features (rivers generally are not good, they move around to
> much). It's a time-consuming process, but needed to correctly locate
> features.
>
> It's not essential that everything be within a few meters of its true
> location, but features should be mapped correctly relative to one-another.
>
> The links above provide guidance on how to align imagery to correct
> locations. It's easy in JOSM with the Imagery Offset tool (on the toolbar).
>
> Steve
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Steve Bower  wrote:
>  I don't think Chad's IDP guidance document (though very helpful)
> addresses the issue of spatial accuracy of the DG imagery, raised by Ross.
> I'm going to post that as a separate issue with more detail.
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:35 AM, Heather Leson 
> wrote:
>  HI Ross, sorry for my delayed response. It is best if you ask your
> questions on the main Hot@openstreetmap.org mailing list.
>
> Chad provided this guidance document on IDPsÂ
> http://hotosm.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Nepal.html#IDP%20Collection%20Guidance
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Heather
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Ross Taylor 
> wrote:
>  Hi, I am seeing many more IDP sites using DigitlaGlobe imagery vs Bing.
> I can toggle between the two image sets, but they are significantly
> nonaligned. I created a landuse=brownfield tagged area which aligns with
> Bing, but if I mark and tag the individual IDP sites showing up in
> DigitalGlobe imagery, the brownfield and idp are not going to be aligned.Â
> I want to help out as much as possible and would like the data to be
> correct. Please advise, thanks!
>
> Note: I tried to adjust alignment but it fixes one area and creates more
> offset in other areas.
>
> -Ross
>
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Re: [HOT] Question on Nepal helicopter landing sites mapping

[Milo van der Linden]

I have been mapping "aeroway=helipad" in the following way:

1. In JOSM, I draw a line 30m in diameter.
2. Then I use "Create Circle" and add "aeroway=helipad"
3. If it doesn't fit in the area where I drew the line, I use "Copy" and
delete the circle.
4. I then move accross the map seeking potential spots. Once I see one, I
press "Paste" to see if the 30m diameter circle fits. If it does, I leave
it there or move it slightly to fit. If it doesn't, I delete the circle.
5. I repeat this process across the entire area of the task.
6. I close the task and in the comments I tell how many helipads I have
drawn, how many are in the task and how many "leisure=common" squares are
in there and I ask "Please evaluate".

I would strongly suggest the evaluators to check the tasks with autorities,
checking with experienced pilots or commanders if the spot is a potential
candidate. But this process is out of my hands.

Good luck!

2015-05-03 15:25 GMT+02:00 Michael :

> Hi,
>
> I think we might need some clarification on how to map the helicopter
> landing sites (Projects #1023 and #1026).
>
> What I did is this:
> - for an official helipad I would create a circle and tag it with
> "aeroway=helipad" - but I have not come across one while mapping.
> - if it is a potential landing site I create a polygon with the actual
> shape of the site and tag it with "leisure=common"
>
> Recently I have seen other mappers doing thing a bit differently. I have
> seen "leisure=common" mapped as circles, even if the place is not really
> circular. This I where I am not sure what the right approach is. So I would
> appreciate feedback from others.
>
> On a side note: Looking for a sample helipad yesterday I also found a
> number of clear areas tagged with "aeroway=helipad". To me this tag should
> only be used for marked official helipads. So the data might need some care
> at some point.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael (user Ohr)
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Re: [HOT] Latest PBF?

[Milo van der Linden]

I download from geofabrik every hour (hourly). That way, I am at most an
hour behind.

Sorry for the confusion.

Kind regards,

Milo
On May 2, 2015 9:24 PM, "Pierre Béland"  wrote:

> Dion,
>
> re-reading your email, you say an hour behind Geofabrik. I understand that
> I can revise the wiki to indicate
> 30 minutes update (1h delay from Geofabrik), this for both pbf and obf.
>
> Would this be correct?
>
>
>
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>
> Thanks for these updates. Will add this link  in the wiki page to assure
> even more availability of data.
>
> - Alternate PFB file if any problem downloading from Geofabrik (one hour
> late vs Geofabrik).
>
>
> Pierre
>
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> *Cc :* hot 
> *Envoyé le :* Samedi 2 mai 2015 15h00
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Latest PBF?
>
>
>
> Hmmm, weird.  Still get time outs from the original, I was able to get it
> off mapcache though, so thanks!
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Milo van der Linden 
> wrote:
>
> No, I can download it. But I also save it (automated) to
> http://mapcache.org/downloads/openstreetmap/nepal/nepal-special.osm.pbf
> to create the OSMAnd file from it
> http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf
>
> Feel free to use these locations. They will be an hour behind the dataset
> at Geofabrik at most.
>
> 2015-05-02 13:00 GMT+02:00 Dion Houston :
>
> Is anyone else having difficulty getting the latest update from
> http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/latest.osm.pbf ?  If so, is there an
> alternate location?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dion
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Re: [HOT] Latest PBF?

[Milo van der Linden]

No, I can download it. But I also save it (automated) to
http://mapcache.org/downloads/openstreetmap/nepal/nepal-special.osm.pbf to
create the OSMAnd file from it
http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf

Feel free to use these locations. They will be an hour behind the dataset
at Geofabrik at most.

2015-05-02 13:00 GMT+02:00 Dion Houston :

> Is anyone else having difficulty getting the latest update from
> http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/latest.osm.pbf ?  If so, is there an
> alternate location?
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [HOT] Mapping Request

[Milo van der Linden]

But then again, this might also be a military camp, given it is fenced and
holds a flagpole: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/27.75311/85.41912

2015-04-30 22:04 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden :

> I can confirm there is a water plant
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/27.75845/85.41984. The reservoirs
> have been mapped by previous mappers.
>
> The militairy camp might be here:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/27.75949/85.42205 as I can see some
> barack-like structures.
>
> 2015-04-30 21:32 GMT+02:00 Kristen Egermeier :
>
>> Hi Dear Friends and Mappers,
>> I've received a request through Facebook for some mapping needs.  Thought
>> I would pass along to you in your continued amazing work!
>> "Hello, we have been dispatched with our SAR team to: 27°45'28.5"N
>> 85°25'08.8"E. There should be a military camp and also a water plant. Would
>> it be possible to map the area for us? Many thanks for your support.
>> Hello, here is a sample how we work with osm during reporting
>> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4isr7Co6J48bHVKVVp4aXl0V0E/edit?usp=docslist_api
>> "
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Re: [HOT] Mapping Request

[Milo van der Linden]

I can confirm there is a water plant
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/27.75845/85.41984. The reservoirs have
been mapped by previous mappers.

The militairy camp might be here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/27.75949/85.42205 as I can see some
barack-like structures.

2015-04-30 21:32 GMT+02:00 Kristen Egermeier :

> Hi Dear Friends and Mappers,
> I've received a request through Facebook for some mapping needs.  Thought
> I would pass along to you in your continued amazing work!
> "Hello, we have been dispatched with our SAR team to: 27°45'28.5"N
> 85°25'08.8"E. There should be a military camp and also a water plant. Would
> it be possible to map the area for us? Many thanks for your support.
> Hello, here is a sample how we work with osm during reporting
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4isr7Co6J48bHVKVVp4aXl0V0E/edit?usp=docslist_api
> "
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Re: [HOT] Nepal rural areas - tagging forests and farmland?

[Milo van der Linden]

Hello Falkmar,

My opinion is persona, not that of the community, but I agree. The best
thing is concentrating your mapping effort on the things that you believe
are most relevant.

Good luck participating!

Kind regards,

Milo

2015-04-30 9:16 GMT+02:00 :

> Hi all,
>
> I'm completely new to this and just started mapping in Nepal. Now I
> noticed that some people extensively tag woodland and farmland in the rural
> areas of Nepal, while the majority does not. I've seen validated squares
> with and without these tags.
> Now my first guess is that since it's basically *all* wood- and farmland
> out there, these tags just clutter the map and should be omitted. But what
> is the official stance on this?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> -Falkmar
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Re: [HOT] How to handle existing features for #1018 Nepal task

[Milo van der Linden]

Hello Steve,

I think I understand your questions, I am a GIS expert too. But when I take
on a HOT task I ask myself, which features are critical to first responders?

First of all: Access. So I try to connect networks of roads an tracks
accessible to vehicles.
Second: Possible human presence. So I map buildings. I do not go into
details to much as I feel it is more important they know there is a
building then what the building is shaped like. When I discover a group of
buildings and I do not have time to map them individualy, I create a
residential area. When I come across an existing residential area that is
roughly shaped in a later task and I have time to map the individual
buildings, I do that and reshape or remove the residential area.

And with these, I hope I help lay the basic structure for operations in the
field.

2015-04-30 8:28 GMT+02:00 Michael Krämer :

> Here a few quick comments to start with. But it comes with a disclaimer: I
> am not an expert for the Nepal activation. So these are just my personal
> comments as a mapper.
>
> 2015-04-30 8:07 GMT+02:00 Steve Bower :
>
>> I'm working on project #1081 Nepal detailed mapping 2nd pass. I'm new to
>> OSM but have lots of GIS experience.
>>
>
> Welcome!
>
> (1) The instructions say "do not trace all the paths in the fields or
>> small paths of a few hundred meters that do not connect to road networks."
>> If there are existing paths like that in the data, should I delete them?
>>
>
> Personally I would not delete them.
>
>
>> (2) An existing long way tagged "highway=track" appears to start as a
>> track that could support motorized vehicles (2 tire tracks are visible),
>> but soon becomes very difficult to distinguish and is perhaps impassible.
>> I'm guessing it was traced from different imagery (I checked Bing and
>> MapBox, per the instructions) - I would not have traced much of it - too
>> hard to see. Should I split this long way and label the second part
>> 'highway=unclassified' or similar?
>>
>
> Highway tagging can be confusing: If it is not suitable for a car it
> should be 'path' instead of 'track' while 'unclassified' is a minor road
> that does not classify for 'tertiary' or above. The tag for an unknown road
> is 'highway=road' but I hardly use that. If you want to know more about
> highway tagging I recommend [1] and/or [2].
>
>
>> (3) Some small hamlets of 5-10 buildings, accessible only by paths, are
>> enclosed in existing 'landuse=residential' polygons. The validation
>> instructions are to confirm there are highways connecting 'residential'
>> areas, and that there are 'residential' polygons around clusters of "20 or
>> so houses". Should I remove the 'residential' polygons around tiny hamlets
>> that are not on roads?
>>
>
> Again I would not delete them. I guess if there are building there likely
> is a path leading there but it might not be visible in the imagery.
>
> Sometimes the instructions for tasks change or for subsequent tasks they
> may not be perfectly in alignment. Different mappers will always make
> different decision on what to map and what not.
>
> Michael (user Ohr)
> ---
> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads
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Re: [HOT] data on power requirements

[Milo van der Linden]

would it be an idea to add them to quakemap.org by adding a subcategory
under "Help wanted"?

Their map contains termporary data and has the ability to sign off once a
need is fullfilled (thanks to the wonderful ushahidi platform)

Workflow could be like:

1. Add requests to quakemap.org
2. ghampower reports request fullfilled and reports to KLL.
3. quakemap.org authors sign off the request.



2015-04-29 21:36 GMT+02:00 Sameer Verma :

> I'm working with Gham Power's team in San Francisco
> (http://ghampower.com/). Gham does solar. They are getting requests
> via a Google doc for electricity for charging phones and solar
> lanterns. http://nepalquake.ghampower.com/
>
> Is anyone else tagging these requests? Any pointers on how to add this
> data to OSM and then to pull it out would be great.
>
> cheers,
> Sameer
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Re: [HOT] Kathmandu camps or incident reporting

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Hello Danishka, you can contact the Kathmandu living labs:
http://kathmandulivinglabs.org/ (address and comm info at top of page)



2015-04-29 5:12 GMT+02:00 Danishka Navin :

> Is it possible to contact local contributors?
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Om G  wrote:
>
>> QR codes can also be easily printed out locally and included on leaflets
>> that are dropped into an area.
>>
>> I’m confident people will have cell coverage before some roads are
>> cleared.
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Re: [HOT] Formosat imagery

[Milo van der Linden]

The currently available WMS service is not fit for tracing. Is there any
change the quality will improve in the near future?

Kind regards,

Milo

2015-04-27 11:47 GMT+02:00 Lorant CZARAN :

> FYI, if not already known, NSPO colleagues also responding to early
> tasking requests:
>
> ---
> Dear Lorant,
> NSPO has got images as requested.
> Please check: http://nepal-quake.colife.org.tw/
> Keep me posted on the progress.
> Franz
>
>
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Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

[Milo van der Linden]

No need to. It is a community effort and all I can think about are the poor
souls in Nepal.

I set up the batch process;
http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf will now be
regenerated every 30 minutes too.

Good luck to all the boots on the ground!

2015-04-26 23:11 GMT+02:00 Andrew Buck :

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> Nice work Milo.  If HOT had an award for doing good work, you would be
> a candidate to receive it.  :)
>
> - -AndrewBuck
>
>
> On 04/26/2015 03:54 PM, Milo van der Linden wrote:
> > The file is available at
> > http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf
> >
> > The OBF was generated by Frederik, which I downloaded and used to
> > create the obf.
> >
> > Thanks Frederik!
> >
>
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Re: [HOT] GeoFabrik Downloads

[Milo van der Linden]

Please thank Frederik for me as I cannot find his e-mail address. I will
set up a process to download his nepal planet every 30 minutes and produce
a OSMand file every 30 minutes to.

2015-04-26 22:43 GMT+02:00 Andrew Buck :

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> There are files here. http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/
>
> Time is running short.
>
> - -AndrewBuck
>
>
> On 04/26/2015 03:35 PM, Milo van der Linden wrote:
> > http://labs.geofabrik.de/ contains no files. If the pbf is there, I
> > will pick it up and create the osmand obf
> >
> > 2015-04-26 22:24 GMT+02:00 Andrew Buck :
> >
> > I already added the link, although it could maybe be formatted a
> > bit better.
> >
> > On 04/26/2015 02:54 PM, Pierre Béland wrote:
> >>>> Cheers Thanks to geofabrik. we will update the wiki page.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pierre
> >>>>
> >>>> De : Robert Soden  À : hot
> >>>> ; Prabhas Pokharel
> >>>>  Envoyé le : Dimanche 26 avril
> >>>> 2015 15h46 Objet : Re: [HOT] GeoFabrik Downloads
> >>>>
> >>>> Frederik Ramm just sent through a link to this page, which
> >>>> hosts GeoFabrik extracts, updated every 30 minutes:
> >>>> http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Robert Soden
> >>>>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> There are a few important users of OSM data in Nepal with
> >>>> workflows built around the GeoFabrik downloads here:
> >>>> http://download.geofabrik.de/asia/nepal.html  Right now I
> >>>> think this data is being updated daily. If someone from
> >>>> GeoFabrik is on this list or knows someone there, could we
> >>>> ask to have the updates run hourly for the time being?  There
> >>>> is a lot of mapping activity going on in Nepal right now and
> >>>> this would help make sure users have access to the latest.
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

[Milo van der Linden]

The file is available at
http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf

The OBF was generated by Frederik, which I downloaded and used to create
the obf.

Thanks Frederik!

2015-04-26 22:48 GMT+02:00 Dale Kunce :

> Milo, we have another 30 minutes.
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM Pierre Béland  wrote:
>
>> Great, cheers Milo
>>
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>>   ------
>>  *De :* Milo van der Linden 
>> *À :* Andrew Buck 
>> *Cc :* hot 
>> *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 26 avril 2015 15h51
>>
>> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal
>>
>> Just to make sure: I set up a download called nepal2 at
>> http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/ this is YESTERDAYS map
>>
>> The one I am creating will be available within approx. 10 minutes. This
>> is a special handmade with the latest data.
>>
>> I suggest you pick up mepal2 tomorrow as it will be generated daily. If
>> that update freq. is convenient, that will do, starting with tomorrow. Keep
>> you posted.
>>
>> 2015-04-26 21:24 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden :
>>
>> 80% ready. ETA: 22:00 Europe/Amsterdam (little more then 30 minutes from
>> now)
>>
>> 2015-04-26 21:05 GMT+02:00 Andrew Buck :
>>
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>> I am not with the Red Cross, I am just a volunteer from HOT.  I am
>> passing along the request on behalf of Dale, who is our contact at the
>> American Red Cross.  We have contacts with other countries RC as well,
>> but this request comes from ARC.
>>
>> - -AndrewBuck
>>
>>
>> On 04/26/2015 01:58 PM, Wm Snyder wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Andrew,
>> >
>> > Which Red Cross are you with and where are departing from?
>> >
>> > It looks like TI Airport is up as of now and on schedule so I
>> > would imagine that updates should be available there. Well maybe...
>> > Only TIA does not have free wifi and it is not to be an airport
>> > with technology.
>> >
>> > So i agree to be prepared, get the map before departing and update
>> > if available.
>> >
>> > Note that I have not had contact with a local reporter in the last
>> > two hours when another shock wave hit her. ---
>> >
>> > WILLIAM SNYDER
>> >
>> > On 26.4.2015 2:34 pm, Andrew Buck wrote:
>> >
>> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
>> >>
>> >> I mentioned this to Dale. If it is possible we may update them
>> >> when they land, but that may not be possible, and the users
>> >> themselves might not know how, or have time. So it is preferable
>> >> to load them before they leave, even if they will just get
>> >> updated when they land.
>> >>
>> >> - -AndrewBuck
>> >>
>> >> On 04/26/2015 01:31 PM, Wm Snyder wrote: Andrew, How long till
>> >> they arrive? If possible, update the map when they arrive. These
>> >> maps are getting more detailed every hour. We try to have links
>> >> to the most current feeds and contacts at FEMAC.INFO
>> <http://femac.info/> , butnot in
>> >> OsmAnd data format. I read that you cold use google Docs? Maybe
>> >> we should add that to our server. --- WILLIAM SNYDER FEMAC.INFO
>> <http://femac.info/>
>> >> On 26.4.2015 2:04 pm, Andrew Buck wrote: Hey everyone, We just
>> >> got an urgent request from Red Cross. They have people getting on
>> >> planes in 3 hours to leave for Nepal, and they want to upload up
>> >> to date OSMand maps onto their phones before they leave. We need
>> >> someone to export the current OSM data and convert it to OSMand
>> >> format and either post it online or email it to Dale as quickly
>> >> as possible. Please respond to this email on the list if you plan
>> >> to do this so others know it is being worked on. Again, this
>> >> request is very urgent: need this data in 3 hours or less.
>> >> -AndrewBuck ___ HOT
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Re: [HOT] GeoFabrik Downloads

[Milo van der Linden]

http://labs.geofabrik.de/ contains no files. If the pbf is there, I will
pick it up and create the osmand obf

2015-04-26 22:24 GMT+02:00 Andrew Buck :

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> I already added the link, although it could maybe be formatted a bit
> better.
>
> On 04/26/2015 02:54 PM, Pierre Béland wrote:
> > Cheers Thanks to geofabrik. we will update the wiki page.
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> > De : Robert Soden  À : hot
> > ; Prabhas Pokharel
> >  Envoyé le : Dimanche 26 avril 2015
> > 15h46 Objet : Re: [HOT] GeoFabrik Downloads
> >
> > Frederik Ramm just sent through a link to this page, which hosts
> > GeoFabrik extracts, updated every 30 minutes:
> > http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Robert Soden
> >  wrote:
> >
> > There are a few important users of OSM data in Nepal with workflows
> > built around the GeoFabrik downloads here:
> > http://download.geofabrik.de/asia/nepal.html  Right now I think
> > this data is being updated daily. If someone from GeoFabrik is on
> > this list or knows someone there, could we ask to have the updates
> > run hourly for the time being?  There is a lot of mapping activity
> > going on in Nepal right now and this would help make sure users
> > have access to the latest. Thanks
> >
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Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

[Milo van der Linden]

I will!


2015-04-26 21:52 GMT+02:00 Dale Kunce :

> Please ping me as soon as the file is ready.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:49 PM Pierre Béland  wrote:
>
>> Yes this is crisis management. We have to play safe even if some
>> redundancy.
>>
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>>   --
>>  *De :* Andrew Buck 
>> *À :* Wm Snyder 
>> *Cc :* HOT 
>> *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 26 avril 2015 14h34
>> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal
>>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> I mentioned this to Dale.  If it is possible we may update them when
>> they land, but that may not be possible, and the users themselves
>> might not know how, or have time.  So it is preferable to load them
>> before they leave, even if they will just get updated when they land.
>>
>> - -AndrewBuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/26/2015 01:31 PM, Wm Snyder wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Andrew,
>> >
>> > How long till they arrive?
>> >
>> > If possible, update the map when they arrive.
>> >
>> > These maps are getting more detailed every hour.
>> >
>> > We try to have links to the most current feeds and contacts at
>> > FEMAC.INFO , butnot in OsmAnd data format.
>> >
>> > I read that you cold use google Docs?
>> >
>> > Maybe we should add that to our server.
>> >
>> > ---
>> >
>> > WILLIAM SNYDER FEMAC.INFO
>> >
>> > On 26.4.2015 2:04 pm, Andrew Buck wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey everyone,
>> >
>> > We just got an urgent request from Red Cross. They have people
>> > getting on planes in 3 hours to leave for Nepal, and they want to
>> > upload up to date OSMand maps onto their phones before they leave.
>> >
>> > We need someone to export the current OSM data and convert it to
>> > OSMand format and either post it online or email it to Dale as
>> > quickly as possible.
>> >
>> > Please respond to this email on the list if you plan to do this so
>> >  others know it is being worked on.
>> >
>> > Again, this request is very urgent: need this data in 3 hours or
>> > less.
>> >
>> > -AndrewBuck
>> >>
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Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

[Milo van der Linden]

Just to make sure: I set up a download called nepal2 at
http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/ this is YESTERDAYS map

The one I am creating will be available within approx. 10 minutes. This is
a special handmade with the latest data.

I suggest you pick up mepal2 tomorrow as it will be generated daily. If
that update freq. is convenient, that will do, starting with tomorrow. Keep
you posted.

2015-04-26 21:24 GMT+02:00 Milo van der Linden :

> 80% ready. ETA: 22:00 Europe/Amsterdam (little more then 30 minutes from
> now)
>
> 2015-04-26 21:05 GMT+02:00 Andrew Buck :
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> I am not with the Red Cross, I am just a volunteer from HOT.  I am
>> passing along the request on behalf of Dale, who is our contact at the
>> American Red Cross.  We have contacts with other countries RC as well,
>> but this request comes from ARC.
>>
>> - -AndrewBuck
>>
>>
>> On 04/26/2015 01:58 PM, Wm Snyder wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Andrew,
>> >
>> > Which Red Cross are you with and where are departing from?
>> >
>> > It looks like TI Airport is up as of now and on schedule so I
>> > would imagine that updates should be available there. Well maybe...
>> > Only TIA does not have free wifi and it is not to be an airport
>> > with technology.
>> >
>> > So i agree to be prepared, get the map before departing and update
>> > if available.
>> >
>> > Note that I have not had contact with a local reporter in the last
>> > two hours when another shock wave hit her. ---
>> >
>> > WILLIAM SNYDER
>> >
>> > On 26.4.2015 2:34 pm, Andrew Buck wrote:
>> >
>> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1
>> >>
>> >> I mentioned this to Dale. If it is possible we may update them
>> >> when they land, but that may not be possible, and the users
>> >> themselves might not know how, or have time. So it is preferable
>> >> to load them before they leave, even if they will just get
>> >> updated when they land.
>> >>
>> >> - -AndrewBuck
>> >>
>> >> On 04/26/2015 01:31 PM, Wm Snyder wrote: Andrew, How long till
>> >> they arrive? If possible, update the map when they arrive. These
>> >> maps are getting more detailed every hour. We try to have links
>> >> to the most current feeds and contacts at FEMAC.INFO , butnot in
>> >> OsmAnd data format. I read that you cold use google Docs? Maybe
>> >> we should add that to our server. --- WILLIAM SNYDER FEMAC.INFO
>> >> On 26.4.2015 2:04 pm, Andrew Buck wrote: Hey everyone, We just
>> >> got an urgent request from Red Cross. They have people getting on
>> >> planes in 3 hours to leave for Nepal, and they want to upload up
>> >> to date OSMand maps onto their phones before they leave. We need
>> >> someone to export the current OSM data and convert it to OSMand
>> >> format and either post it online or email it to Dale as quickly
>> >> as possible. Please respond to this email on the list if you plan
>> >> to do this so others know it is being worked on. Again, this
>> >> request is very urgent: need this data in 3 hours or less.
>> >> -AndrewBuck ___ HOT
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Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

[Milo van der Linden]

this document in error, please destroy the document
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Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

[Milo van der Linden]

Dale, can you roughly provide a polygon of the required area
On Apr 26, 2015 8:11 PM, "Milo van der Linden"  wrote:

> I can create them. Unless anyone else beats me, I can make them available
> for download in 30 minutes.
> On Apr 26, 2015 8:04 PM, "Andrew Buck"  wrote:
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> We just got an urgent request from Red Cross.  They have people
>> getting on planes in 3 hours to leave for Nepal, and they want to
>> upload up to date OSMand maps onto their phones before they leave.
>>
>> We need someone to export the current OSM data and convert it to
>> OSMand format and either post it online or email it to Dale as quickly
>> as possible.
>>
>> Please respond to this email on the list if you plan to do this so
>> others know it is being worked on.
>>
>> Again, this request is very urgent: need this data in 3 hours or less.
>>
>> - -AndrewBuck
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Re: [HOT] URGENT: Need OSMand files for Nepal

[Milo van der Linden]

I can create them. Unless anyone else beats me, I can make them available
for download in 30 minutes.
On Apr 26, 2015 8:04 PM, "Andrew Buck"  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> We just got an urgent request from Red Cross.  They have people
> getting on planes in 3 hours to leave for Nepal, and they want to
> upload up to date OSMand maps onto their phones before they leave.
>
> We need someone to export the current OSM data and convert it to
> OSMand format and either post it online or email it to Dale as quickly
> as possible.
>
> Please respond to this email on the list if you plan to do this so
> others know it is being worked on.
>
> Again, this request is very urgent: need this data in 3 hours or less.
>
> - -AndrewBuck
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Re: [HOT] Nepal Stats: almost 800 mappers, 24000 roads, 10000 buildings

[Milo van der Linden]

I feel honored to be part of this wonderful crowd!

The ID editor adds the hashtag automagically.
On Apr 26, 2015 8:05 PM, "Daniel Joseph"  wrote:

> Hey Andrew,
> I think that in general if tracing as part of an activation, especially if
> working on tasks through the tasking manager, the use of the requested
> changeset comments (with hashtags, as listed in the instructions) should be
> encouraged.
> All the best,
> Dan
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Andrew Buck 
> wrote:
>
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>> Interesting stats, although they are actually an under-estimate of the
>> work done.  It looks like you are only counting changesets with
>> certain hashtags but many people (myself included) don't use the
>> hashtags.  You really should do a bounding box or polygon based
>> statistic either in addition to or instead of the hashtag based one.
>>
>> - -AndrewBuck
>>
>>
>> On 04/26/2015 10:51 AM, Mikel Maron wrote:
>> > http://osm.townsendjennings.com/nepal/
>> >
>> > incredible response everyone. the metrics site will keep updating
>> > and expanding in coverage. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207
>> > @mikel s:mikelmaron
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Re: [HOT] Questions regarding Missing Maps Mapping Party in the Netherlands

[Milo van der Linden]

JOSM can be ran from anywhere, as long as java is installed. So there is a
risk that you need to install java during the mappathon.
On Feb 4, 2015 11:48 PM, "john whelan"  wrote:

> I seem to recall that JOSM can be run from a USB stick.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 4 February 2015 at 15:24, Milo van der Linden 
> wrote:
>
>> Why go through the trouble of installing? People are doing remote tasks
>> and have no gpx files, field papers or geotagged photos. Because then I
>> would certainly advise josm.
>>
>> I think time is valuable. If you have 10 computers and spend 5 minutes
>> per install, you lost an hour of a half day event..
>> On Feb 4, 2015 8:37 PM, "Jan van Bekkum"  wrote:
>>
>>> Can't you ask participants to install JOSM before they arrive?
>>>
>>> On Wed Feb 04 2015 at 8:21:56 PM Jorieke Vyncke <
>>> jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Willy,
>>>>
>>>> Just some of my thoughts:
>>>>
>>>> In Antwerp we used JOSM because we had loads of time. It takes maybe a
>>>> little longer to install JOSM, but teaching and learning how to map is on
>>>> the same level. You only have more mapping possibilities with JOSM... On
>>>> the installation, when everybody is arriving at the mapathon and setting up
>>>> his computer, you can let the participants already install JOSM and make
>>>> them create a login before the 'real training' starts.
>>>>
>>>> If you are not sure about the stability of the internet connection it
>>>> might also be better to use JOSM, because for ID you need all the time a
>>>> stable internet connection.
>>>>
>>>> Further; are people bringing their own laptops or not? If you are
>>>> planning to work on fixed computers it might be better to work with ID,
>>>> because in a lot of universities, companies, etc. there are restrictions in
>>>> installing JOSM or other software on their computers. So if you plan to
>>>> work with JOSM on fixed computers it might be good check and to install
>>>> JOSM already on every computer of the room. If you plan to work with ID,
>>>> you shouldn't have any problems.
>>>>
>>>> But one of the main important things is: what is your favourite mapping
>>>> editor? Because this editor you probably can explain the best. Besides you,
>>>> as teacher, you also need some 'helpers' who can stand behind the mappers
>>>> who are trying to follow what you are explaining. In my opinion it's the
>>>> best to have at least 1 person behind 6 or 7 participants, to guide them in
>>>> the mapping. So these people also need to master ID or JOSM.
>>>>
>>>> Please inform me about what you decided, so we can share some more
>>>> advice with you
>>>>
>>>> And for the validation, I absolutely follow Dan. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Groetjes, Jorieke
>>>>
>>>> 2015-02-04 9:30 GMT+01:00 Dan S :
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd recommend using iD for beginners - and actually, I'd recommend
>>>>> using iD if this is your first time organising a mapping party,
>>>>> because if you use JOSM you will be submerged in annoying problems
>>>>> installing JOSM on people's computers and that's no fun! It can be
>>>>> done but it helps to have more experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> For validating, I'd say any mapper who can use JOSM and has been
>>>>> involved in a couple of HOT tasks in the past. It's definitely a good
>>>>> idea of yours to validate as soon as possible, and get feedback
>>>>> straight back to the people you're working with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-02-04 7:59 GMT+00:00 Willy Bakker :
>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In the Netherlands we are organizing a Missing Maps Mapping Party
>>>>> the 14th
>>>>> > of february.
>>>>> > I'd really like your feedback on two questions we have:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Firstly, which editor would you recommend for beginners? In Berlin
>>>>> during

Re: [HOT] Questions regarding Missing Maps Mapping Party in the Netherlands

[Milo van der Linden]

Why go through the trouble of installing? People are doing remote tasks and
have no gpx files, field papers or geotagged photos. Because then I would
certainly advise josm.

I think time is valuable. If you have 10 computers and spend 5 minutes per
install, you lost an hour of a half day event..
On Feb 4, 2015 8:37 PM, "Jan van Bekkum"  wrote:

> Can't you ask participants to install JOSM before they arrive?
>
> On Wed Feb 04 2015 at 8:21:56 PM Jorieke Vyncke 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Willy,
>>
>> Just some of my thoughts:
>>
>> In Antwerp we used JOSM because we had loads of time. It takes maybe a
>> little longer to install JOSM, but teaching and learning how to map is on
>> the same level. You only have more mapping possibilities with JOSM... On
>> the installation, when everybody is arriving at the mapathon and setting up
>> his computer, you can let the participants already install JOSM and make
>> them create a login before the 'real training' starts.
>>
>> If you are not sure about the stability of the internet connection it
>> might also be better to use JOSM, because for ID you need all the time a
>> stable internet connection.
>>
>> Further; are people bringing their own laptops or not? If you are
>> planning to work on fixed computers it might be better to work with ID,
>> because in a lot of universities, companies, etc. there are restrictions in
>> installing JOSM or other software on their computers. So if you plan to
>> work with JOSM on fixed computers it might be good check and to install
>> JOSM already on every computer of the room. If you plan to work with ID,
>> you shouldn't have any problems.
>>
>> But one of the main important things is: what is your favourite mapping
>> editor? Because this editor you probably can explain the best. Besides you,
>> as teacher, you also need some 'helpers' who can stand behind the mappers
>> who are trying to follow what you are explaining. In my opinion it's the
>> best to have at least 1 person behind 6 or 7 participants, to guide them in
>> the mapping. So these people also need to master ID or JOSM.
>>
>> Please inform me about what you decided, so we can share some more advice
>> with you
>>
>> And for the validation, I absolutely follow Dan. :-)
>>
>> Groetjes, Jorieke
>>
>> 2015-02-04 9:30 GMT+01:00 Dan S :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd recommend using iD for beginners - and actually, I'd recommend
>>> using iD if this is your first time organising a mapping party,
>>> because if you use JOSM you will be submerged in annoying problems
>>> installing JOSM on people's computers and that's no fun! It can be
>>> done but it helps to have more experience.
>>>
>>> For validating, I'd say any mapper who can use JOSM and has been
>>> involved in a couple of HOT tasks in the past. It's definitely a good
>>> idea of yours to validate as soon as possible, and get feedback
>>> straight back to the people you're working with.
>>>
>>> Have fun!
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-02-04 7:59 GMT+00:00 Willy Bakker :
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > In the Netherlands we are organizing a Missing Maps Mapping Party the
>>> 14th
>>> > of february.
>>> > I'd really like your feedback on two questions we have:
>>> >
>>> > Firstly, which editor would you recommend for beginners? In Berlin
>>> during
>>> > the Open Knowledge Festival I attended a HOT workshop where the iD
>>> editor
>>> > was used; at the mapping party in Antwerp in december they used JOSM.
>>> Which
>>> > one is the best for beginners?
>>> >
>>> > Secondly, we think it is important that tasks that are done are
>>> validated as
>>> > soon as possible. Because of that we would like to 'appoint' an
>>> experienced
>>> > mapper at the mapping party to validate the done tasks. But what are
>>> the
>>> > requirements for this person? Can any experienced mapper validate
>>> tasks?
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Willy Bakker
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Re: [HOT] Questions regarding Missing Maps Mapping Party in the Netherlands

[Milo van der Linden]

The first question depends; do you want to do installation on all
computers present? Or would you prefer to have people use there
computer with minimal installation? In the last case, I would go for
ID as it will limit the time needed to perform installations and will
have you up and running faster. JOSM has it's strength in integration
with GPX and geotagged photo's. But you do not need that on HOT tasks.

Second question: Anyone can validate. It just takes a little common
sense and is more of a peer review.

2015-02-04 8:59 GMT+01:00 Willy Bakker :
> Hi,
>
> In the Netherlands we are organizing a Missing Maps Mapping Party the 14th
> of february.
> I'd really like your feedback on two questions we have:
>
> Firstly, which editor would you recommend for beginners? In Berlin during
> the Open Knowledge Festival I attended a HOT workshop where the iD editor
> was used; at the mapping party in Antwerp in december they used JOSM. Which
> one is the best for beginners?
>
> Secondly, we think it is important that tasks that are done are validated as
> soon as possible. Because of that we would like to 'appoint' an experienced
> mapper at the mapping party to validate the done tasks. But what are the
> requirements for this person? Can any experienced mapper validate tasks?
>
> Regards,
>
> Willy Bakker
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Re: [HOT] Dutch language

[Milo van der Linden]

Thanks for the response! I will wait for the release and check if the i18n
looks correct when Dutch comes online.

Kind regards,

Milo

2014-12-06 12:31 GMT+01:00 Pierre GIRAUD :

> Hi Milo,
>
> Thanks for your contribution.
> I hope I can release a new version of the tasking manager soon. It
> should be deployed next week if everything goes well.
>
> Regards,
> Pierre
>
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Milo van der Linden 
> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I translated the tasking manager to Dutch and would like to know when it
> > will come available on the website so I can check if it is visual
> appealing
> > and contextual correct.
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
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[HOT] Dutch language

[Milo van der Linden]

Hi there,

I translated the tasking manager to Dutch and would like to know when it
will come available on the website so I can check if it is visual appealing
and contextual correct.


Thanks!

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Re: [HOT] [talk-ph] Just got back from an Aid Mission to the Remote Caluya Islands West of Borocay

[Milo van der Linden]

It seems like this is a "blind spot" in de mapping efforts related to the
Typhoon as not much mapping has been done on the islands ([1] and [2]).

[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/11.9362/121.4099&layers=HN
[2]
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-typhoon-haiyan-2013#10/11.6993/121.8906

Bing (pre-typhoon) imagery is pretty reasonable quality, so if someone set
up a HOT task, I would gladly help out to bring more detail to this area in
the hope this will help you guys out a bit.


I don't know if any post-typhoon imagery is available for this area?



2013/12/11 Mark Cupitt 

> Here is our Mission Planning for anyone interested. Yellow is completed
> missions (Excluding Caluya), Red is planned missions. These are quite
> remote and hard to get to, Does anyone know of any Georeferenced imagery
> available, before and/or after I could get my hands on, we need to check
> for access by air and road.
>
> Cheers
>
> mark
>
>
> Regards
>
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>
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>> Great efforts Mark!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Mark Cupitt wrote:
>>
>>> For the record, the team was composed of the following good folks:
>>>
>>> Retired USA; 77 years old, lives Davao (Wise old Duck)
>>> USA 60 years old, lives Dubai (Took 4 months leave to do this project)
>>> Team Leader
>>> Aussie 53 years old lives Dumaguete (Camera Duck)
>>> Retired USA 50 years old lives IloIlo (Logisitic Duck)
>>> Us Student 32 Years old, lives IliIlo (Logistics Duck)
>>> (Average age 54 years old)
>>>
>>> Filipina 30 years old, lives IloIlo (Interpreter and coordinator/liason)
>>> Filipino 32 years old, lives Iloilo (All rounders and the clowns in te
>>> video with the snorkeling masks on, great guys)
>>> Filipino 31 years old lives IliIlo ( dito
>>>
>>>  )
>>>
>>> Plus the good folk of the Philippine Army (security) and The Philippine
>>> Navy (transport), FANTASTIC PEOPLE!!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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 Hi All

 Just got back form a week long aid mission to the Caluya Island Group
 in Antique, way out west of Borocay. Some of these islands were devastated
 by Storm Surge, most of the boats were destroyed so no fishing was
 possible. These islands are so inaccessible that no aid has been delivered
 up to now. We were able to deliver 10 Tons of aid including tarpaulins,
 rice, Nails, Rope, Milk, Tinned Food, etc to 1400 families on the islands.
 This group is a group of individuals who came together and it is privately
 funded.

 A Video report can be seen at

 http://youtu.be/P1AEW9EanOk


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Re: [HOT] local OSM teams

[Milo van der Linden]

Hello Alyssa,

I think you might have some luck when contacting people from the specific
working group at the openstreetmap foundation:
http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters_Working_Group

This page also links to other pages with information and gives you the
names of the working group members that may be able to inform you about the
status of various local chapter initiatives.

Kind regards,

Milo


2013/7/27 alyssa wright 

> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to understand the international breadth of local communities
> around OSM. Is there any comprehensive list of local teams/chapters,
> inclusive of efforts outside of Europe and the US?
>
> Thanks,
> Alyssa.
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Re: [HOT] World bank + Google = Kachingg!!

[Milo van der Linden]

And that is exactly what HOT needs to do; follow it's own course. I believe
the size, methodology and flexibility of HOT will probably proof way more
practical and hopefully life-saving now and in the future.

“There are basically two types of people. People who accomplish things, and
people who claim to have accomplished things. The first group is less
crowded.”
- Mark Twain

2012/1/25 Om Goeckermann 

>
> On Jan 25, 2012, at 7:00 AM, hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:
>
> > " We will continue to strive for all data being open and freely
> > accessible and look forward to engaging with others and advancing the
> > broader conversation to make development more effective and inclusive."
>
>
> Firstly, it's the World Bank. Their track record is running *somewhat*
> behind their own claims of expertise.
>
> Secondly, if that paragraph had any weight, there is a robust community
> waiting and a bevy of well developed applications that could truly enable
> map-preneurs in developing countries to make good use of their OWN data
> (even sell some of it to Google if they felt like it).
>
> It's Google's terms I have issues with. Regardless, it is a menage a deux
> of oligarchy and monopolizing tactics.
>
> IMO the whole thing reeks.
>
> We will be out there regardless, spreading empowerment and sovereignty
> wherever we go...
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