Re: [Hpr] Accessibility problem
f show numbers as it is. I was unavailable this morning but I have just tried doing what some accessibility advice I found suggests: namely giving each link to a show a 'text' attribute. In experiment one I added the show title there. I saw the warnings that many screen readers will not use this attribute. I also wonder if this will have the effect of making the page excessively complex for screen readers that do use it. Using this text has the advantage for sighted users that hovering over each link shows what the episode is about. I found many references to 'Accessible Rich Internet Applications' (ARIA) in my research, and see that I could add these types of attributes. What do you think? Dave -- Bob Jonkman Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] takov751
Voice three, for sure. I used to provide tech support to some people who used speech readers. One fellow (who probably listened at 3x to 4x) needed some help, but he didn't use a video monitor at all. There was no way I could make out what was happening by listening to the synth voice, so I asked if I could use a video monitor. "Sure", he said. "A video monitor is just an assistive device for the visually dependent!" --Bob. On 2022-01-11 13:09, Ken Fallon wrote: Hi Mike, As a TTS engine for reading the screen back to me I am more than happy with it and use it continually during the day. It's not just visually impaired people that rely on TTS. It does that job and does it well. The objection I have to using espeak as the voice of HPR is that it is harsh, unfriendly and not welcoming, its so bad in fact that it makes kids cry. I speak from personal experience. When my kids were small I made a project based on espeak (in English) for them to interact with. It was a disaster. When the espeak voice started speaking they got scared, started to cry, ran away, and never wanted to have anything to do with it again. Over the years the biggest objection to the TTS on HPR has been the espeak voice. It has also been the biggest point of negative feedback I get when trying to promote HPR to potential interviewees or projects. If those are not valid enough reasons then I don't know what will convince you. I can also assure you my desktop wallpaper is the default supplied with my distro. In the past it has been argued that the more natural voices are difficult to understand when sped up. So I took the two most natural voices from the list and posted a side by side comparison to espeak at 150%, 200%, 250%, 300%, 350%, 400%, 450%, and 500%. In my opinion the coqui-tts_en_en_ljspeech is more understandable than espeak at every speed. Can everyone have a listen to this and tell me your preference https://hackerpublicradio.org/tts-espeak-ljspeech-vctk-normal-150-200-250-300-350-400-450-500-percent.ogg Ken. On 2022-01-11 14:35, Mike Ray wrote: And here was me thinking about posting to the list about how much better it is now with the softer music in the background and a nice punchy eSpeak voice. I still have no idea what the objection to the eSpeak voice is. If you spend as many hours a day coding as I do, and rely on tts to make this possible, then eSpeak is the way forward. Although I know this may only be true for English speakers. Not sure how good eSpeak is at other languages. People who complain about eSpeak are probably the same people who never get any work done because they are constantly fiddling with the desktop wallpaper. :-p On 11/01/2022 10:44, Ken Fallon wrote: Hi All, We got a comment from takov751 via https://matrix.to/#/#hpr:matrix.org Greetings i am a long listener of the shows . And of course planing to make my first show . I would like to ask question regarding tts at the beginning of the show usually I hear the espeak robotic voice . In the workflow have you considered using mimic1 or opentts / Mozillatts or something along those lines ? It’s seems like these would be compatible with licensing as well and bir more realistic voices . A few examples https://hub.docker.com/u/synesthesiam Re-posted with permission Sample voices are here: https://synesthesiam.github.io/opentts @Mike Ray I would like to try and get a happy balance between meeting your needs and having a voice that is friendly. While I love espeak it is not friendly - it literally put my kids in tears when they were younger :-) Could you have a listen to some of the other voices and see if any of them come close to your requirements for TTS FYI I find these two "friendly" * https://synesthesiam.github.io/opentts/#coqui-tts_en_en_ljspeech * https://synesthesiam.github.io/opentts/#coqui-tts_en_en_vctk ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org -- Bob Jonkman Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 151, Issue 9
Most excellent! --Bob. On 2021-04-25 4:29 p.m., lostnbronx wrote: HPR is a hungry beast; it's not at all picky about what it eats, but it needs constant feeding. -- Bob Jonkman Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] HPR urls doing weird things
If the injected URL parameters should happen to collide with an accepted parameter, then there could be unpredictable results. For example, if HPR accepted the "Friends Being Cool Listeners In December" parameter: http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=387=bobjonkman but then Facebook appends another fbclid parameter and who knows what would happen... It is likely that Facebook's parameter encodes personally identifiable data. The danger to privacy comes when someone copies the URL from Facebook on another site that gathers Facebook stats. Now that other site has information on who originally posted the link, and possibly who copied it, and from 'referer' data, where it was posted to, and how often it gets clicked on. I think HPR's current behaviour (treat invalid parameters as an attack) is correct, even if a bit drastic. Perhaps a more explanatory error message would help educate people about this privacy issue, eg. "412 Precondition Failed: The URL submitted contained invalid data, likely added by commercial social media to track personal information. To protect privacy, HPR rejects this URL." --Bob. On 2020-09-09 6:10 p.m., Cedric De Vroey via Hpr wrote: Op wo 9 sep. 2020 om 23:55 schreef Kevin O'Brien : Wouldn't accepting parameters from others pose a security problem? I tend to think it expands the attack surface. No it doesn't really, as long as you use named parameters, and as long as you implement proper sanitation on those parameters you should be fine from a security perspective. However, there are privacy concerns that could be made over this practice since it could be used to track users. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien z wil...@zwilnik.com http://google.me/+kevinobrien http://www.google.com/profiles/Ahuka5656 http://about.me/zwilnik “People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people.” - Alan Moore, *V for Vendetta* *Public Key = F6283E7A <https://pgp.mit.edu/>* On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 12:13 PM Ken Fallon wrote: On 2020-09-09 18:10, Cedric De Vroey via Hpr wrote: Well, I guess those numbers are not that odd for anything that's connected to the internet. My site is basically a static one-pager with no possibilities for user input whatsoever and even that page gets bombarded constantly (without effect). I mean, that's just how it is on the internet these days I guess, it can be a rather hostile environment at times :-) Actually that's the ones that make it through Joshes bear traps ;-) -- Regards, Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org -- Bob Jonkman Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Harassment on HPR
I'm completely in favour of language that describes a cooperative, welcoming culture. Some people have suggested removing host e-mail addresses from the show notes. Can this be a selectable option? When I submit something I'm OK with my e-mail address being visible and publicly available -- I'm pretty thick-hided (and thick-headed). --Bob, who's years overdue for another episode On 2019-12-14 7:56 a.m., Ken Fallon wrote: Hi All, I have had disturbing reports that multiple hosts have been harassed after posting shows to HPR. After further investigation I have no reason to doubt that these reports are anything but genuine. This has been a bit of a shock to me, as HPR has always seemed like a well-regulated community. I for one don't condone harassment or offensive behavior especially against people who have made the effort to contribute to the network. I believe that this is the view of the HPR Community in general, but I would like confirmation. Therefore I formally propose the following policy change. Modify http://hackerpublicradio.org/about.php#free_culture as follows: < Hacker Public Radio is dedicated to sharing knowledge --- Hacker Public Radio is dedicated to sharing knowledge in a welcoming community that offers positive feedback and encourages respectful debate. I would appreciate your active response on this issue. ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org -- Bob Jonkman Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] By request
I want to know more about the spiffy HPR shirt!
--Bob.
On 2019-04-17 9:05 a.m., Jeroen Baten wrote:
And when it all comes together
Thanks to the tip from Nigel this picture has been stripped from EXIF
GPS data.
Greets, Jeroen
On 16-04-19 22:19, Jeroen Baten wrote:
Hi,
When I told Ken that I had an expensive weekend buying all kinds of
podcast stuff to do interviews at upcoming events he suggested to
share pictures here.
So, here goes.
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/00e6f5149d5a51f1528737a4478517ed20190416173113/8cd364825230402ccdfec78abb96945220190416173113/07c2da
Regards,
Jeroen
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Re: [Hpr] Static Site Generators - NOT a flat file CMS
Hi Ken: If your server supports Server Side Includes (SSI) then you can add comments to the top and bottom of your pages to include a header and footer. I was doing that for a static site for a while (but then got sucked into the WordPress morass). eg. --> The insert.hti file contains the HTML code I want in the header. If I ever change the contents of that file, then all the pages which have the 'include virtual' comment will update too. Note that some servers don't like the space between the comment indicator and the 'include' command, so they want which I find ugly... I use the .hti extension as an indicator that it's an HTML "include" file, not a complete HTML file with sections. --Bob. On 2019-04-03 2:36 p.m., Ken Fallon wrote: Hi All, Do any of you have a recommendation for a Static Site Generators that just publishes html files. For example takes a page, adds a header and footer from somewhere and publishes the combined page. ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org -- Bob Jonkman Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] HPR Branding
>>>>
>>>> It's been a while since we had this discussion and it would be good
>>> to
>>>> revisit it again.
>>>>
>>>> Currently the branding is as follows
>>>>
>>>> 1. Show Synopsis (Espeak saying "This is HPR episode ${show_number)
>>>> entitled "${title}". It is hosted by ${hostname} ... etc"
>>>>
>>>> 2. Thanking our Hosting provider (Automatically Added)
>>>>
>>>> 3. HPR Introduction Music (Mandatory)
>>>>
>>>> 4. The Show
>>>>
>>>> 5. HPR Outro Music (Mandatory)
>>>>
>>>> We would like your input on what if anything should change.
>>>>
>>>> Is the 1. Show Synopsis, adding value to people ?
>>>>
>>>> Do we continue to 2. Thanking our Hosting provider ? Should we remove
>>> it
>>>> or put it in the outro ?
>>>>
>>>> Should we refresh the 3. HPR Introduction Music ? Make it shorter ?
>>>>
>>>> Should the 5. HPR Outro Music text be changed ?
>>>>
>>>> Any other changes ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ken Fallon
>>>> http://kenfallon.com
>>>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
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Re: [Hpr] Permission to modify the show notes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've only got one show in there, but I contributed it to HPR. And even though the HPR indicates the shows are CC-BY-SA I'm happy to release my shows as CC-0, or even to transfer copyright to HPR. I did this for HPR, not for me. While I speak for no-one else, I suspect that'll be a sentiment common to most HPR contributors. So go ahead and fix, update, and alter show notes as needed. - --Bob. On 2017-07-06 03:46 PM, x1101 wrote: > I can’t think of a good reason why not. > > I know folks have the option of releasing shows not CC-BY-SA, but > have they? If so, do we have a way to identify them and exclude > them from editing? > > Also, for what its worth, I am herby explicitly giving the HPR > admins permission to modify my show note as needed. > > > /x1101 >> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ken Fallon <k...@fallon.ie> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> As you know we are going back over the old shows to add tags for >> Archive.org. Nearly all the shows need tags, and summaries. >> Some even need show notes, or to be placed in series. You can >> help - see the main page for more information. >> >> In the process of doing it I was thinking it would be a good >> idea to do a bit of housekeeping on them. For example, fix the >> html, check the links still work and point to where the host >> originally intended, etc. >> >> I was asking Dave (who's leading this) what we should do if the >> show notes need correcting. For example a show may benefit from >> having "Google Reader was shut down on July 1, 2013, but this >> show is of historical interest." _still not over that one :)_ >> >> The license is cc-by-sa, so we are allowed to do "derivative >> works" on the show notes. To be honest most of the early shows >> didn't have show notes so they were often added by the admins. >> >> Our current policy as is defined in "hpr2210 :: On Freedom of >> Speech and Censorship" would seem to allow us to do this. >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=2210 >> >> So the question is are we allowed to modify show notes ? >> >> -- Regards, >> >> Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 >> >> ___ Hpr mailing list >> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.o rg > >> >> > > ___ Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.or g > > > - -- Bob Jonkman <bjonk...@sobac.com> Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAllepO4ACgkQuRKJsNLM5erjHgCfWuU4fcjh0EVIany/+Zc9tTi7 OSoAnRnOVSKB9Fj08MXq2NKYN72nFF7w =2F5I -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Slow Downloads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there such a thing as a podcatcher that uses bittorrent to download its files? That should distribute the downloads somewhat. I'd be willing to switch podcatchers if that was an option... - --Bob. On 2017-06-30 10:42 AM, Joshua Knapp wrote: > It's a good chance that we are hitting the bandwidth cap on the VM > and connections are getting throttled. I'll check the firewall and > see how much it's using. > > I have a 20mb/s commit, which means while I can allow for more that > that, but my monthly average based on 95 percentile cannot, else I > get charged for overages, and I need to keep the paying customers > as priority in regards to traffic. > > I will check as to how much bandwidth we can spare, and I am open > to ideas. > > One of the things I have been investigating and testing is the use > of AWS S3 for large files and uploads, as the cost is significantly > less than storing and serving locally. > > Another option may be that we raise money set aside specifically > for HPR's bandwidth costs. The revenue from the few (2 or 3 iirc) > accounts that signed up through the HPR coupon code is nominal in > regards to the total cost to host HPR. > > Do not get me wrong, I am not complaining, as I think HPR provides > a great service and anything from the community is a testament to > the dedication from it's members. > > I am open to other ideas as always. > > --Josh > > On Jun 30, 2017 7:21 AM, "Mike Ray" <m...@raspberryvi.org> wrote: > >> Kevin and all >> >> I have exactly the same. >> >> Every night when the clock ticks around for time for the next >> HPR podcast it downloads very, very slowly. I had just about >> decided it was probably a combination of my sister and her kids >> sucking up all my bandwidth with netflix and spottify. But it >> seems it isn't just me. >> >> Mike >> >> >> On 30/06/2017 13:48, Kevin O'Brien wrote: >>> Is anyone else having problems with extremely slow downloads >>> from hpr? I >> am >>> getting speeds that remind me of dial-up BBS days, but only on >>> this >> podcast. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ Hpr mailing >>> list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org >>> >> >> >> >>> - -- >> Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK >> >> Disclaimer: It wasn't me, you didn't see me, you can't prove a >> thing. >> >> https://cromarty.github.io/ http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/ >> http://www.raspberryvi.org/ >> >> >> >> ___ Hpr mailing list >> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org >> > >> > > > ___ Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > > - -- Bob Jonkman <bjonk...@sobac.com> Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAllWqNcACgkQuRKJsNLM5eoVxgCg1wI9kRn14pftbGR2OtI4zigG mH4AoNBBTh7uK80FWWjJHyT/G3f80ML4 =vBpm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] HPR Community News recording changing to Friday (2017-06-30T17:00:00Z)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You know, it should be possible for you to edit this event in your calendar, then distribute just that event again. The UIDs for the event should match, and update the correct event in my calendar. Even better, if you publish the .ics file on the HPR site then I can just add it to my calendar, and as you update it the changes automatically appear on my calendar... There's currently an interesting discussion on calendaring on the LibrePlanet mailing list: https://lists.libreplanet.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2017-06/msg00051.html - --Bob. On 2017-06-26 02:33 PM, Dave Morriss wrote: > Hi All, > > Due to other commitments we're changing the date and time of the > next recording (thereby messing up the beautiful iCal calendar I > circulated earlier). > > Friday evening at 17:00 UTC. > > Dave > > > ___ Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > > - -- Bob Jonkman <bjonk...@sobac.com> Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAllTIpkACgkQuRKJsNLM5epGpQCaAmFWP6hs+nilDPFnSSWjHKfz pNEAn27DJzStYwOcfrAS/L6MknHzhnEC =SvUI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Community News recording schedule
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That was slick! I'm using Thunderbird with the Lightning calendar plugin, using WebDAV to access my calendar repository on ownCloud -- Thunderbird displayed a banner "This message contains an invitation to an event", I clicked "Accept All" and now all the Community News events are on my schedule; on my desktop, on my phone, and on my Web calendar... Thanx Dave! - --Bob. On 2017-06-07 06:20 AM, Dave Morriss wrote: > Hi All, > > I make myself an iCal calendar around every December containing > the dates of the Community News recordings for the following year. > > It never really occurred to me to share this before, but I'm going > to do so now - somewhat belatedly. > > I load the attached file into Thunderbird's (IceDove's) calendar > and use it to remind me of the next recording. You may have other > iCal-capable calendars you'd prefer to use, but I assume this file > will allow you to follow along if you wish. > > I will generate and share the next one towards the end of the > year. > > Dave > > > > ___ Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > > - -- Bob Jonkman <bjonk...@sobac.com> Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAlk5QIYACgkQuRKJsNLM5eruDgCgl+pZcOJLywfM9at7kcPCfIjo B4IAnAzJEnT3neb/i66Rz8oCdps8Ga3H =CAGF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
[Hpr] Editing show notes?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all: I've finally uploaded a show, so I'm finally legitimate! I left out some details on the show notes, is there a way to edit them before it airs? Or even aftewards? Also, I added show notes in plain text. Is that the easiest for the moderators, or should I use another format? - --Bob, who's happy to be here at last. - -- Bob Jonkman <bjonk...@sobac.com> Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAliU/OsACgkQuRKJsNLM5eoJcwCfXgOloNlMjRzoU9SAIp1eWw93 IFIAoIcXMj8Nu1VM6IBCH3xdzVxkOo04 =2gES -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] HTML notes accessibility pointer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Accessible linking practices is probably worth pointing out in an HPR episode. Also, the issue of mailing list top and bottom posting. I've been told by people using screen readers that it's REALLY annoying to have to listen to the same quoted text message after message, only to hear "I agree" at the end of it all. Screen reader people seem to prefer top posting. - --Bob, who doesn't mean to start a flame war. - -- Bob Jonkman <bjonk...@sobac.com> Phone: +1-519-635-9413 SOBAC Microcomputer Services http://sobac.com/sobac/ Software --- Office & Business Automation --- Consulting GnuPG Fngrprnt:04F7 742B 8F54 C40A E115 26C2 B912 89B0 D2CC E5EA On 2016-04-06 08:45 AM, Mike Ray wrote: > Hello folks. > > I just wanted to point out a little thing about how to make HTML > show notes more accessible to blind folks like me. > > When you're linking to something in your notes, like the previous > episode in your series, please consider the method most > screen-reader users use to navigate between links. > > All of the readers I have come across have a navigation key > dedicated to stepping through varieties of landmarks in an HTML > page. For example the 'l' key to jump from link to link or the 'h' > key to jump between headers. > > So, when using the keypress method of jumping from one link to the > next it is very poor practice to, for example, make only the word > 'here' a link in the middle of a sentence like 'Find the notes for > episode N here'. > > If there are multiple links on a page of that kind then repeated > presses of 'l' will just make the screen-reader say 'here, here, > here, here, here' as you go from link to link. > > So, we then have to look at the surrounding text to identify what > the link is. > > Likewise, if your notes contain the actual text 'http:// ... etc > ... ' after words which say what it is, we just get a Web address > and it's not always obvious what it is. > > Better to make the whole of the 'find episode 1 of galvanic frogs > leg spasm here' a hyperlink. > > Here endeth the lesson on the third Wednesday after muck > spreading. > > Mike > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability iEYEARECAAYFAlcFeL0ACgkQuRKJsNLM5eqJqgCdHkAb+vcApRankZXFGnTYCkIP Yc8AoPVqrdS9IsVGLF1chYzlzAZYSt5o =1D53 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
